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I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
*EDIT* - People keep asking about root and bootloader - The devs have found multiple ways to root and plan on releasing the first root method soon. They also say they are on track for a global bootloader unlock method. Stay patient and you'll have your root! Enjoy!
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I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much. It wasn't much of a upgrade but the camera and manual mode really drew me to the G4 along with the removable battery and extSD. They are both great devices but in the end for something different I went with the G4.
EDIT: Great idea on the new thread structure, I was just thinking if they were going to do this.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me. The one i just had had to be returned because of camera problems. It's a shame because I was really liking it until I took some outdoor photos.
Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?
Came from the G3, which I passed along to my father. I've been flashing it for him to feed my habit, but things are starting to look up for the G4 now.
Came from the S5 which I came from the S4..glad to be done with Sammy
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.
I came from the S4 was pretty happy with that phone (actually I'm still happy with that phone) but the G4 just looked like a great upgrade. Can't beat the SD card slot and removable battery.
I had the GS4 before this, and Sam lost me with what they ditched in the GS6 design. The LG G4 has made me a very happy customer, and I marvel at its performance. Even better, I get an extra sd card and battery through that promotion!
I'm still rocking a G3 until the G4 gains root access.
The G3 has been the most boring phone I've had. I really enjoy flashing roms, but life is just too busy now. Which is why the G3 (and I assume the G4 will be as well) is so great. This phone with root and TweaksBox is perfect. I just froze a few things, added a few features and changed the colors and I have a stable device that has everything I want and need.
Came from G2. Missed having a removable battery and SD card. Love the camera, wish there was an option to change the resolution though. I didn't think I would like the curve as much as I do. A little put off by how much Verizon stripped the LG features too. All in all I'm just as happy as the day I got my G2. I was actually sold on the nexus 6, but I couldn't get over my love of the back buttons.
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I had a G2, then a G3, and now a G4. In between these I had bought and returned a Droid Turbo, S6, One M8, and likely 1-2 more, but I always found myself coming back to LG.
I prefer the looks and ergonomics of the G3 the best out of all of them, it looked and felt much smaller than the G4, and looks more premium. The G4 has excellent performance and the best camera out of all of them though, so it makes up for it.
Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?
Everyone coming from the S4: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one ditching Samsung for their anti-user policies. I have owned every Galaxy phone 1-5. Not anymore. I've all but decided on the G4 for my upgrade next week. Excited about developments here!
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Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?
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Are you talking about the option in Developer options to Enable OEM Unlock? If so, that's old news. It doesn't mean you can unlock your bootloader. It's just one more hurdle before unlocking it.
Okay, just making g sure.. Back to rooting exploring.. Hey, but at least I should get some brownies for showing up right?? Where might one find a list of tried exploits or is there no such list?
I've been an android user since 2012, and this January something possessed me and I bought an iPhone 6 after having a really bad experience with the Droid Turbo. Then I realized what a monster I had become and I sold my iPhone and got the G4. Best decision I've made, and root is just going to make this great phone greater.
Tomyk89 said:
I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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Hey mate, the Lounge was up and running, I assume as you were posting this thread. There's no reason for two similar threads.
How about changing yours to a "Which device did you come from" thread?
Thanks @Tomyk89
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I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me.
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That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
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Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?
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Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.
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The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.
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That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.
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I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.
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I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.
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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.
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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.
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I am thinking my unit is defective, there are other issues that I have been having as well. I think that I am going to call and get them to send a replacement.
Hello ,
I'm going to buy a new G4 and i wonder about >
Which model number of LG G4 has the most support (Custom ROMs, Official Firmware, Custom recoveries , easy rooting, ....etc) ?
And which model should i buy in your opinion ?
Basically , i can see that the H815 model has the most (I'm not sure about the other models)
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Also tell me in points about the things you hate in the G4 ...
I heard about these points :-
1- Weak feeling of the vibrator when it is in the pocket on the table ( I actually tested that my self in the store , i set the vibrator at the max strength).
2-Very bad in recording and combining panorama photos (I'm not using it).
3-Video recording colors are sometimes considered under-saturation ! (is there an option to adjust this in camera settings ? i didn't find it while i'm in the store)
4-Bad effect on the microphone sound with the camera video recording (i don't know about calls and voice recording, please tell)
Tell me what you see about these point if you already have this device (mention the model number you have), also share what you think
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The Third thing I'm asking about is the "locked / unlocked bootloader" Story !
what does that mean? and how can i check if it is locked or unlocked ?
Thank you <3
first of all Congratulations.
The most supported model of the g4 is the H815 .
about the bad things you wrote
that never happens to me and i'm very satisfied with the phone
I less satisfied with the ui of lg i prefer caynogen mod /google ui
and there's another problem with the device he just die you can read about the "boot loop" problem.
I personally bought a T-Mo G4 a couple weeks ago. Luckily it is one if the few models & I think the only US branded one that can have the bootloader unlocked. I'm coming from the M8 and overall I would say I've had a good experience. I've experienced none of the touchscreen lag or other problems other have had. The camera is great. Especially coming from the sad camera on the M7 & M8. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM with no problem and minimal reading. Now when it comes to the dev scene I'm not too happy. Never been a fan of AOSP ROM's and LG's ui isn't bad but pretty bland. I guess I'm just a fan of Sense. But besides that I haven't found much if any support for the H811. Even in the International forums. H815 seems to get all the support so if you can I would say go with that model. Me personally this will probably be my last LG phone. It's a great phone but not a fan of the back buttons and lack of dev support killed it for me but otherwise a great and capable device.
yes h815 ...
For me : i love this phone ! good design an good performance ...
lg firmwares are very good ,it's not Samsung horror for example...
but i don't like at all the sound quality , it's bad ...for a hight device !
we don't have to say anything...only yourself do what you really want to do with your phone
but the principal risk is to have an unlockable bootloader !!! damned for you...
you can ONLY root a Lollipop (and xposed if there are no bootloop ... ) ! no twrp (customs roms ,apps ported ,personalizations by zip...), ,no rooted MM too ....no genesys ....ni greats kernels....
the hell for "geeks" !
Doronmak said:
first of all Congratulations.
The most supported model of the g4 is the H815 .
about the bad things you wrote
that never happens to me and i'm very satisfied with the phone
I less satisfied with the ui of lg i prefer caynogen mod /google ui
and there's another problem with the device he just die you can read about the "boot loop" problem.
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1- When does this problem occur ? & how do you handle it .. just a factory reset or what ?
i had took a look about this previously but i didn't get how it happens, they just say SUDDENLY
2- how many times this problem happened to you bro. ?
3-do you really satisfied with the microphone sound ! ,, about 99% of the reviewers talking negatively about this point.
Thank you for the reply <3
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I personally bought a T-Mo G4 a couple weeks ago. Luckily it is one if the few models & I think the only US branded one that can have the bootloader unlocked. I'm coming from the M8 and overall I would say I've had a good experience. I've experienced none of the touchscreen lag or other problems other have had. The camera is great. Especially coming from the sad camera on the M7 & M8. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM with no problem and minimal reading. Now when it comes to the dev scene I'm not too happy. Never been a fan of AOSP ROM's and LG's ui isn't bad but pretty bland. I guess I'm just a fan of Sense. But besides that I haven't found much if any support for the H811. Even in the International forums. H815 seems to get all the support so if you can I would say go with that model. Me personally this will probably be my last LG phone. It's a great phone but not a fan of the back buttons and lack of dev support killed it for me but otherwise a great and capable device.
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that's right i have tried the HTC M9 camera,, it is SO bad !! ... my friends says that the M9+ version is much better.
thanks for the advise, i'll go to the H815 then
Loulou-13 said:
yes h815 ...
For me : i love this phone ! good design an good performance ...
lg firmwares are very good ,it's not Samsung horror for example...
but i don't like at all the sound quality , it's bad ...for a hight device !
we don't have to say anything...only yourself do what you really want to do with your phone
but the principal risk is to have an unlockable bootloader !!! damned for you...
you can ONLY root a Lollipop (and xposed if there are no bootloop ... ) ! no twrp (customs roms ,apps ported ,personalizations by zip...), ,no rooted MM too ....no genesys ....ni greats kernels....
the hell for "geeks" !
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but i don't like at all the sound quality , it's bad ...for a hight device !
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Do you mean the quality of the speaker or the microphone ?
but the principal risk is to have an unlockable bootloader !!! damned for you...
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How can i find out if the bootloader of it is locked/unlocked one :3 ?
i can see the difficulty level difference in dealing with firmware,custom roms, rooting between Samsung world and LG ... Odin make the job much easier , also there are many websites to provide the official firmware for Samsung, where until now i didn't see any single GOOD website to provide such service, even LG website method was difficult and strange and even some guys didn't get what they want.
a main and an important point for me is that i'm very interested in playing with the phone all the time as what i do with my samsung , messing and playing with it all the time and trying everything, but it is so easy and safe to restore your phone,,,, what do you think about LG , you seems to have some experience
thank you very much
Adelm2013x said:
that's right i have tried the HTC M9 camera,, it is SO bad !! ... my friends says that the M9+ version is much better.
thanks for the advise, i'll go to the H815 then
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How long do you plan on keeping this phone? I personally only got it as a quick layover because I wanted a change and finally got fed up with HTC's horrible camera. I was gonna go with one of next year's flagships like the S7 or hopefully the M10 if the camera was good. I was hoping this was gonna be awesome experience for me and maybe lure me to the G5 but I'm headed back to my HTC/Samsung roots.
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How long do you plan on keeping this phone? I personally only got it as a quick layover because I wanted a change and finally got fed up with HTC's horrible camera. I was gonna go with one of next year's flagships like the S7 or hopefully the M10 if the camera was good. I was hoping this was gonna be awesome experience for me and maybe lure me to the G5 but I'm headed back to my HTC/Samsung roots.
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"How long do you plan on keeping this phone?"
if the question was for the LG G4 then i plan to keep it for one year and a half to two if i got no problems with it.
(i currently using the Galaxy Alpha but the camera get stuck too much due to some hardware issue, and unfortunately it cant be dissembled without breaking the screen which has no replacement parts here.. i used it for less than a year... WHERE as the LG G4 can be dissembled easily Without any complexity .. you can do it at home and even by just me and one tool that was one of the reasons why i go to G4 rather than S6 )
mmm, if the question was about the M9, i just tried it for half an hour in the store and i didn't like it AT ALL
Hoping a Good Luck with your next device bro. and thank you
In the past i owned others LG, old optimus .....and my previous is a Samsung S4mini .
and yes...the only positive thing with Samsung is that it's easy to flash what we want ,we just have knox flag (that's all ! ) ,Odin work very well and yes !!! i love Sammobile on internet !!! there are ALL firmwares ,great ! but notging for LG ,no thread here on xda for to share all KDZ files....nothing .
But i prefer so much LG for his qualities and best firmwares, more updared ....
i have heard too a lot of sudently deads phones feedbacks ,but never see articles or others about...
but it's seem that it's not like root for the warranty : if you have unlocked bootloader ,you have lost this warranty !!! (but in theory,just with the root : no ! if you are European... )
UP ....
i have read a lot about the random restarts and the big COMMON bootloop / sudden death of the LG G4 ..... it was so strange and scary and a shame for LG !!
there is no LG services in my country and no warranty on the phone, and it costs 560$ USD or 513 EUR which is considered expensive - but a good price when we are talking about a flagship device :\
The serial number of the hardware i found starting with 507xxxxxxxxx.
My G4 finally died,after 20 months...
I took it to the store where it was bought,they will send it for repair.I hope they will repair it so I can sell it after...
I'm going to buy another phone but I'm in doubt which one,so I will need your help guys
Moto Z
Moto Z Play
Motorola Droid Turbo 2 XT1585
OnePlus 3T 64GB
Huawei Honor 8 32GB
Huawei P9 32GB
Meizu Pro 6 32GB
Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus 64GB
Or maybe you can think of something nice,except Samsung and LG ofcourse lol
How about HTC U11? Or Huawei P10?
daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
How about HTC U11? Or Huawei P10?
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I don't like Htc...and Huawei P10 is too expencive,450€ is too much for me,300-350€ is maximum for me...
welder73 said:
I don't like Htc...and Huawei P10 is too expencive,450€ is too much for me,300-350€ is maximum for me...
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I see.. Then go for OP3T, it's a really good device with tons of custom rom.. I never use OP3T but i have OP3 before, but i swapped it for LG V20 because i can't live without SD Expandable...LOL
Btw, if you can't live without expandable memory like me... Getting a Huawei P9 or Moto Z is the best alternative ( based on your list )..
Why not keeping the G4?
Buy a new battery and thazs it.
There is no improvement on the mentioned devices.
With some debloating and tweaking the G4 is an awesome device.
Edit and with 35$ you can add wireless charging
Cozmos23 said:
Why not keeping the G4?
Buy a new battery and thazs it.
There is no improvement on the mentioned devices.
With some debloating and tweaking the G4 is an awesome device.
Edit and with 35$ you can add wireless charging
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And then what? To wait for another bootloop? To be 20 days or more without a phone?
It WAS a good phone,for 20 months,but no thanks...
The sellprice for used G4 is too low.
Its just a simple effort use calculation.
And well yea probably waiting for another bootloop, if it happens
And you save a bunch of money which you can spend elsewhere or save it to buy this years flagship next year.
Maybe LG G6?
That would be worth the upgrade.
Wait for the LG V30. Hopefully it still has a removable back
Who the hell counts with months after a year ? It's like moms saying her baby is 74 weeks old wtf
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Wait for the LG V30. Hopefully it still has a removable back
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No it's not going to have removable back since it is also a glass designed like G6.... LG already moved on from having a removable battery..
This is why i'm having a LG V20 instead of LG G6 as an upgrade from my rusty LG G4..
LG also ditched the secondary display for LG V30 which is too bad for me because the secondary screen is actually quite useful for my daily usage..
Emin3ms said:
Who the hell counts with months after a year ? It's like moms saying her baby is 74 weeks old wtf
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A lot of people actually do.
we say 18 monts instead of 1.5 years. We 24mo ths instead of 2 years
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welder73 said:
And then what? To wait for another bootloop? To be 20 days or more without a phone?
It WAS a good phone,for 20 months,but no thanks...
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About how long mine made it but it failed for other reasons. But killer for about 20 months
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Other than no root im kickin the g5. I love it.
I am a G4 fan. I have been using a blacklisted H811 as wifi phone for a year (12 months :silly. I even got an LG RMA number to fix the boot loop problem, in the hopes they would change the imei when they did it and I could maybe get it on cell service. It wasn't boot looping and I could probably still send it in but i heard they come back with the same imei so i haven't sent it in. I would really love to get it on a network, i really enjoy a lot of the features that is has.
I liked it so much i decided to get a V10 refurb (just a few days ago....72 hours or so ) and it seemed very nice to me, it was in really great condition but not a big step up from the G4, the small screen was ok but I am older and my eyes are not what they used to be, the small screen is...small. I didn't really think i would use the fingerprint scanner but it isn't a bad feature. I had it rooted a couple of hours (120 minutes...Ok, I will stop now ) but there is not a lot of developer action and i don't know how to create my own roms, even the Lineage guys are not doing much with it that i know of, that is what i run on my G4 and I like it. After a day with the V10 I noticed it kept dropping the wifi signal and from what little investigating I did, the T Mobile version seems to have this problem, courtesy of Team T Mobile. Not a hardware but a built in software problem. Wifi is a huge issue with me and without developer support to help me out, into the return envelope it went and back to the seller.
I like G4s well enough and they just seem like a lot of phone for the prices they are now. I found out the best service provider in my area is Verizon and i have never had Verizon service so I ordered a VS986 even though I knew the bootloaders are locked down tight and I probably would not get it rooted. I got it today and it was in excellent condition. I fired it up and within three minutes it was bootlooping. :crying: I saw this thread looking for the same thing as the OP but I am still open to a G4 but really want to put it on a Verizon MVNO if possible. I just don't know how well an 815 would work on Verizon if at all, that is if could sift thru all the 815 variants, an Fm radio would be nice and i want an IR blaster. I know most of the US G4's dont have FM radios except maybe Sprint, i forget.
If anyone has any experience with an 815 on Verizon I would be glad to hear it. I don't know if i will risk another refurb G4 or maybe start looking at the Moto X pure or one of the Moto G's, they are a little more than i want to spend. I know i want 64 bit Snapdraggon at least equal or better than the G4s. I know it is a difficult thing to find, the G4s just offer a lot for the money to me. I am still considering trying another 896 and even an 810 but if a G4 that can be rooted will work well on Verizon that would be my first choice. Sorry for the novelette length post.
One Moto Z showed up in the ads,4 months old,with 2 year guarantee from operator...
My question is:
Is there a chance that someone can mess up the battery with some incorrectly charging or something?
cc
Well,this thread can be closed now,I bought Moto Z today and I really like it! ?
To all of you who still have G4 I wish all the best and that bootloop doesn't happen to you :fingers-crossed:
I know it's only out for reviewers and what not but I'm looking forward to the device, not only that but I'm looking to upgrade my rooted V20 and wanted to know the chances of the G7 being rooted
Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root
numpea said:
Only European and US unlocked will get official bootloader unlock (as far as we have seen in many variants before) and root other variant may or may not find a way to root
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Well that's blows
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Well that's blows
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself
I'd say odds are piratically zero unless you get an unlocked variant, even then it can take months for LG to release the code for unlock. I am looking elsewhere manufacture wise. I have a G3 and it is on its last legs.
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Yup. And that is exactly the reason the v30 will be my last LG phone. At least the new HTC comes out soon and HTC has previously been dev friendly
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Honestly it's a shame I was seriously looking at this phone, but what's more unfortunate is I'm starting to feel rooting is going the way of the dodo, more or less for big brands Samsung and LG for instance. HTC has always been pretty Dev friendly, it's just a shame I stuck with Android all this time because I had the freedom to root and do whatever I wanted and now it's just become a hollow shell of itself
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
as for the oods of getting root, anything is possible.. look at the v30.. look at the g6 and v20 and so on, Most didnt think that would happen... its a challenge.. I wouldnt say you would get it soon,
but sooner or later.. if you truly want software and dont care about hardware, get OP6........................... But if you want a device that can outperform most others, Samsung,LG and Google.............
yeah sony too.. just not a fan of Sony.............
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Sony phones are locked down tighter than a nuns vagina so I won't go that way again.
I had an htc M9 and the battery was TERRIBLE. 3 hours I was at 60pct of little use, and this was brand new. So the battery issue has to be better than it was then. But most of us buy our phones and never plan to keep then longer than a year Max and most of us also use the payments so the OP6 and others like it are not affordable, especially for my broke ass.
LG makes great phones, they really do, but I want absolute control over something I legally own (for the time being ) and I think everyone else feels the same way. I haven't given up on LG just yet but for time being, I'm using the Motorola z2 force soley cause it can be rooted easily...well I thought easily anyway. Google's seemless update confuses me with two.
That being said, my hopes are still up, hanging by a string for the next LG model, but this time I won't buy it until root is achieved/released..if ever.
Sigh.
I swore to never own another LG phone after the G4 fiasco, but here I am a few years later - literally about to pull the trigger.
I don't care about the notch or the AI features - I just wanted a good phone with: a headphone jack, bigger screen, and most of all - a wide angle lens. I had my heart set out on an ASUS Zenfone 5 for a while but the wide angle camera has apparently been somewhat disappointing.
I currently own a Pixel 2 XL and a Galaxy S8+ Exynos version, both have been a blast to have because of the ease of being able to flash a new ROM and what not. I know for a fact that having this new G7 means losing the ability to customise the phone, but I'm left with little options as my desires for a wide angle lens has become far too great. I could get a secondary lens for my DSLR but snapping pictures very quickly with a phone has become the norm. Oh well, I'm probably going to get the G7, I'm prepared for a locked bootloader
Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?
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Question what about for the Verizon editions are those going to be unlocked by Verizon and allowed to root?
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Verizon will never unlock the bootloaders on any phone they sell. Basically, if you want root, the general rule is to not buy Verizon phones 99pct of the time they are not unlockable
I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?
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I though while ago few years there was a law passed that allowed modifications to phones legal?
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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!
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I think that law may have been to physically mod phones? I can't quite remember.
But yeah, Verizon = no bootloader unlock, ever. I am hoping T-Mobile's buy one get one free promo will get the phone in more user's hands. More users should lead to more desires for development. The last LG phone I had was the G4 and there was an odd way of getting root on the phone.. I really hope there will be devs to work on the G7. As always, I'm ready to donate money to get root and the ability to flash ROM's.. honestly, I just want AOSP icons on the statusbar :laugh: I hate ugly statusbar icons!
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Considering how incredibly slow LG was to add the V30 unlock codes to the official site, and still no OFFICIAL support for the open market V30/V30+ US998 model, I have serious doubts the G7 will be added to the list, at all. If you have a European variant, I envy you. They DO have laws that require companies to allow for modification. The US has pathetic loopholes in right to repair which even Apple and Microsoft scoff at, let along a smaller company like LG. They simply don't care about the dev or modder community. They would much rather have you get a new phone every year because the former was crippled by poor software and lack of support.
I'm rocking a LG G3 vs985 and it is really in bad shape now that thermal issues have led to SD card failure. I might have to reflow the solder to get it working long enough to see if the G7 will get root, or if there are alternatives.
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For all of you that say HTC is so great, Let me tell you.. I was once a huge LG fan back in the G3 days and V10(Which went knowwhere) and then I said I would never touch another LG again, So I went HTC10,
was great at first, a bit pricey for the money, But to make a long story short. all HTC's battery suck.. your device will die within 1 year. but you will notice the issue way before, like 6 months to less..
when it happen to me, I thought maybe it was just me, then after me, other friends of mine, started having issues, and then friends of theirs had issues, and coming from a Developer on HTC10,
I can tell you, the scene sucks. the users can be rude, even know that is everywhere.. but cant explain unless your a dev, and even know you can s/off which will cost you 25.00, no biggie, lets you rebrand your device too... and unlock your bootloaders, but as for scene, Its not really there.. a few roms and a few things, but nothing big.. I created PureFusionOS originally on a HTC10, and I created Nebula Kernel Originally on a LG G3,
then Ported the first EAS Kernel to HTC10 on MM then N and not on Oreo......... So, dev friendly as it is, it has its draw backs.. I personally wont get another HTC do to the crappy batteries..
If none believe me, click on the Telegram group on my sig and ask in there.. you will see for your self.......
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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke
I haven't rooted my phones for a few years now. I dont see the necessity for it anymore ( I respect the opinion of others who have their reasons for rooting.. i just have no justifiable reason for myself)
I still use xda a lot for reviews , q&a , discussions etc just not for development.
To me, phones have come a loooooong way from the days of the LG G2x etc where rooting was a MUST if you wanted a phone that could even last the entire day
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I am currently researching various sites such as XDA now being in the market for a new smartphone out of necessity. That necessity...... Echoing the quoted portion of your previous post...... Is " thanks " to the battery of my HTC 10. I write this with my HTC 10 tethered to a charger because not connected to power once the status bar battery icon shows 70 % it is a very short wait until it bootloops with the only course of action then being a vol. Down + power button combo press to get into download mode...... Select power off...... And connect the HTC 10 back to a power source ( at which point it displays that the 70 % screen on battery power remaining is actually around 8 %.
The HTC 10 battery does indeed suck. Researching now for a new smartphone is leading me to think there are only 2 options that tick the boxes of my wants...... Among those wants being latest hardware with a Good + camera, SD card slot for storage expansion, and ability to be rooted. It appears the 2 smartphones to come the closest to meeting those wants are the LG G7 and Samsung S9 ( and unfortunately it appears presently the want of root may not happen with either of those 2 smartphone options [ Snapdragon versions. ] )
I suppose I could deal with my always-needing-to-be-tethered HTC 10 a little while longer to enter the U12 in the purchase running ( that I presume will be rootable ) but I will be concerned of having another battery nightmare with a HTC smartphone......
Ganuke
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I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!
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I'm actually in the exact same boat as you - although my battery isn't quite as bad on the HTC 10 yet, it's definitely dying 2 or more times a day on me. It's a great phone and I wouldn't be itching for an upgrade if the battery was still good. I like the U12+ but after this(and previously my One M8) having both battery or charging port related issues, wireless charging on my next device is a must. Unfortunately like you said both the Snapdragon S9+ and the G7 are the only current real options and neither of them seem to be getting any traction in the root department. The s9+ is especially interesting to me because I would think the USA would have a HUGE market for people buying and modifying that phone but it seems as though that just isn't so.
Back to the G7 - this is the first time I've ever even considered an LG and this device looks freaking great, but I want to not only de-bloat and adblock, but also have the ability to run free WiFi tether on Sprint as well as the fun of changing out ROMs(although the older and busier I get the more tedious this becomes).
Eagerly watching from the sidelines on what happens with this phone though!
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Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke
Ganuke2kx said:
Not a good thing reading that you had battery related issues on a previous HTC smartphone as well as the 10...... As far as my thought of a U12 being in the running for my next soon-to-be purchase each new day I become increasingly frustrated with needing to be constantly tethered to a power source with my HTC 10. I also have a Google Nexus 10 tablet ( that I believe has HTC battery hardware ) which in the past few months has been major off-and-on issues that after online researching of others experiencing the same thing attribute likely to HTC battery hardware in the Google Nexus 10. Early reviews of the HTC U12 do seem promising...... But after the cost of a flagship phone I do not want to find myself having the same battery nightmare a little over a year from now as I am with this HTC 10.
It is a real shame as so long as I am tethered to a power source my HTC 10 still runs like a champ in every other aspect. Another shame is something you mentioned in root / mod activity on XDA seems to have really declined for most smartphone brands...... And that does not give me hope of there arriving root for either the Samsung S9 or LG G7. If I am destined for the LG G7 I am considering holding out for one of the 2 merchants listed on the LG website to get in stock a carrier unlocked version of it...... In hopes that could make it a little easier / likely for eventual bootloader unlock and root. If not I will just have to get use to it being my first Android smartphone that I did not have root on.
With that scenario in mind I have been researching on alternate methods to try and do as close to some of the basic things I have always utilized with root. One thing you mention is debloat. Searching with a phrasing similar to " remove bloat no root " did return a result from XDA that I likely will try And there do exist adblock, firewall, etc. apps that do not require root...... But my guess is they will not function as well as those with root. I have had a few Samsung, a couple Motorola, and this one HTC ( 10 ) branded smartphones...... A purchase of a G7 would be my first LG as well......
Ganuke
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The prior HTC phone (One m8) didn't really have battery issues, but the charging port (microusb) failed on me. I believe this is going to be much less of an issue going forward with USB C connections so I wouldn't really say that's a major concern. I've had HTC phones all the way back to the EVO 4G, and generally did not have issues with battery or power related things. At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.
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At this point we're going off topic though. Hopefully someone with the talent and ability finds a passion in figuring out root for the G7.
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Allllthoooough...... If you and I continue conversing regardless of topic maybe we can bump the thread count up high enough to attract a talented and abled person to take a look here and ultimately detail a root strategy for the LG G7 ( can always hope. )
So on that thought...... How Is the weather where you are ?
Ganuke
I'm looking into buying this phone but I like a device with a lot of rom support. Is there something I'm not aware of or is the device too new to have much development? Thanks!
No TWRP. Some ROMs supports this, and most of the Kernels does.
Sent from my OnePlus7TPro using XDA Labs
I'm new to this device but from everything I gathered, the lack of ROMs doesn't really have anything to do with the 7T. It's more of a problem with Android 10. Google changed a lot of system stuff with Android 10 which makes it harder for the TWRP developers to get a custom recovery working. As far as I know, even the new Pixels don't have TWRP yet. Once devs get a working recovery going, I'm sure the ROMs will be flowing through here.
Some of the Magisk roms like xXx have worked on it. If you're looking for a full blown rom, they'll be few and far between.
I don't think we'll see much happening in TWRP until more 10 phones come out. These were among the first, and most people already had plunked down on the 7 Pro.
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I'm looking into buying this phone but I like a device with a lot of rom support. Is there something I'm not aware of or is the device too new to have much development? Thanks!
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I was really excited about this devices since i heard so much about the oneplus brand, coming from Nokias (900,920,1020), HTC (one m8), Huawei (p10),Samsungs (Note 8), Huawei (mate 10 pro) i heard so much about it and how fast the devices are etc. Ill give you my honest opinion about it, as far as development goes its starting to pick up like some other members have said there are a couple of roms out there, rooting is possible and super easy to do and there are a couple of custom kernel like blu spark and elemental X that work perfectly and gives you a great battery. Before rooting this devices i decided to give it a go without messing with it i have read and watched several reviewers that the battery wasnt that great that it would give you only five hour of SOT etc, my last device was a Mate 10 pro and that devices even tho i cant root anymore since there are no bootloader unlocking for huawei anymore was a great phone super fast an never stutter battery was perfect between 7 or 6 and a half hours. Knowing that the oneplus was "only" five i didnt really care, once I got my device and it settle it really impressed me, i was getting around 8 to 7 hours of sot with a smaller battery, that was awesome speed was great everything was going perfect till i found out that the screens on the OP7T are very faulty, more so then other screens of other phones i have owned. The OP7T greatest defect is the damn mura of greenish tint on grey backgrounds when nightmode is active on around 20-30% brightness in a dark environment. I am one of those with the issue, for me its fine i know ill get use to it but it is something that reviewers wont say or talk about, now keep in mind we are not talking about a small percentage of devices this is a big batch and it doesnt matter if you have the chine model EU model IN Model etc the are all affected, oneplus representatives know about the issues and the only thing you can do its get a replacement hoping for the best cause it might be that the replacement phone will be worse. i advice you to look into the issues read the forums and decide after that. i hoped i knew before i bought since my warranty wont cover where i live now all i can do is just make the best get use to it and just make sure next time its the first thing ill check, beside that the devices is great overall but keep that in mind. sorry for the long post.