Develop Bugs

Swap Power and End buttons

On the latest CAB I downloaded the End button locks the screen and the power button minimizes all the programs. Is there any way to make the Power button lock the screen and the end button minimize all the programs, like it is in Win Mo? I got a T mobile TP2

The problem is that you would end calls with the lock button as well.

I see. There isn't some way they could code around this? That's weird that it's like that.

This note is from the WIKI.
Note: It's until now impossible to split 'End Call' and 'Power' function in the code, so this last function can't be linked to Power button without it being 'End Call' too. Thus for the ease of ending a call, this function is placed on the normal EndCall-button and Power button is 'Home'.

honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.

I agree. I'd rather have the power button turn the backlight off than the end button. That's the most important. They should make an option or something where people can choose their preference.

i was coming to look for this. i dont mind having to end calls with the power button right now. ill be using standby and home more so id rather those be more natural.

j.action said:
honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.
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WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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for you. obviously we want it though. i would like the end call button to be on the end call button but i want sleep on the top and home key down below more.
having it end call when youre on a call and a home key button the rest of the time would be more ideal. i kinda wish this was the hd2 because the buttons on that would be make sense in android.

Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
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Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.

I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.

andershizzle said:
I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.
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thats my thoughts exactly. i think even people who make calls turn the phone on and off using the power button more than the end key. i understand how one would like it the way it is, which is why a solution to change it for us would be nice.

I agree
j.action said:
Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.
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I agree with you, whenever I try to press the EndCall button, I always fear of dropping the phone from my hand, Or if you hold the phone in your palm; you have twist your thumb all the way down, seems awkward.

I have a question ... wouldn't it be possible to reassign certain actions and not the default button functions to the hardware keys ?
On windows mobile, this seems to be possible with the rhodium keyboard controller ... it uses a modified driver to achieve that iirc ...
If someone could do that for android, we could assign "turn display off" to the power button, "home + end call" to the end key and so on ... or am I wrong ?

Sorry to double post/bump my question ...
But wouldn't it really be possible to just create a driver that is able to assign certain actions to the buttons instead of static button actions?
Or is this impossible under Android?

I would like to know about this me too...
i use the on screen button to end my calls and using the end key to turn backlight off its unnatural for me...
also it will be cool to have the screens template on end key button...

I actually agree with the idea of the power button ending a call - I hold my phone with my index finger on the top ( a habit I developed after having someone yank a phone away from me), so the power button would be very natural for hanging up as I remove the phone from my ear.
An option, or even info on the files to edit, would be awesome. Could it be as simple as a simple .conf file in the filesystem?

Reefermattness said:
WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
LOL
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um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.

millmanorama said:
um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.
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Yes, on "dumb" phones, and android handsets the power button and the end call button are linked to the same button. The difference is, THESE BUTTONS ARE NOT ON THE TOP OF THE HANDSET. They are on the face of the phone, NEXT TO THE CALL BUTTON.
Like i have said before, switching the end call button to the power button on the Rhodium would be chaos. For the mass majority of users, making the end call button NOT end the call, is ridiculous, and confusing. If you were to go out, and buy an Android handset, you would not even have a power button other than the end call button.
Yes, the only way everyone will be happy, is if you can choose how you want the buttons mapped.

i was thinking not all android devices link the end call and standby buttons together, the nexus one and desire and legend all have them on the top. then when i looked up pictures, they had gotten rid of the send and end call buttons so of course they moved the stand by to the top. i wonder if you press that during a call, would it hand up.

Dynamic back button softkey?

One issue I have always had with Android is knowing whether or not pressing the back key will take you to a previous menu or close the program. Now that the back button is dynamic, would it be possible to create a mod where the back button turns into an "x" when it will close the program? I think this is something that should be part of ICS, but I also know that modders can do some incredible things.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. Every application is coded differently and it depends on the developer to what function the back button does. I think for this to work, hypothetically, you would need specially designed applications to include this feature.

You could have the button linked to environmental variable that always takes you back home, bypassing any specific app uses, however that would be redundant since you already have a home button. Other than that, I don't think there's another way to do it, definitely not dynamic since its up to the specific App. However, I remember on CM7, there was an option for SMS so that the back button always took you to the inbox, and not just quit, which I miss.

The application controls whether the back button moves you to a previous screen, home screen, or even exits the program.
Edit: Just noticed I repeated what everyone else said

If it were possible to mod Android so that the back button was unable to close apps, I would be very happy. Could this be done?

thereddog said:
If it were possible to mod Android so that the back button was unable to close apps, I would be very happy. Could this be done?
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Don't think of the back button as closing the applications. Think of it more like the button triggering the app to close itself. It's an app specific issue, but not really an issue... Just use the home key!

RTContent said:
Don't think of the back button as closing the applications. Think of it more like the button triggering the app to close itself. It's an app specific issue, but not really an issue... Just use the home key!
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Just an example using Google Music:
Listening to music, I want to go into the app using the widget or icon on a home screen. Sometimes it goes to the Now Playing screen, other times it will go to the Recent/Artist/Albums view. (Which is a whole 'nother issue I have with Android)
I don't wan't the back button to go back to the home screen, I want the back button to back within the app. If the system can be modded so that the back button never navigates to home, I think that would work for me.

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Just an example using Google Music:
Listening to music, I want to go into the app using the widget or icon on a home screen. Sometimes it goes to the Now Playing screen, other times it will go to the Recent/Artist/Albums view. (Which is a whole 'nother issue I have with Android)
I don't wan't the back button to go back to the home screen, I want the back button to back within the app. If the system can be modded so that the back button never navigates to home, I think that would work for me.
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Yeah I have noticed this with Google music. Hopefully Google will update this with a fix but understand it's not an 'android' issue its a apk issue.
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Home button vs lock button press when screen is locked and no lock screen security

Hello,
I've been using my new note 2 for two weeks now.. and I like it so much
I also used sgs2 and 3 before.
I'm not new to android.. I flashed roms, know every single setting in the device, rooted my sgs2 and tried lots of apps to customize them.
Regarding my issue, I like to set my device to none screen security because I always manually lock it with a press on the lock screen button after I do whatever I want to do with it, and to unlock I always press Home button to get back to where I was immediately without the need to swipe the lock screen.
The problem is when I lock it and there is an app running and then press the home button the screen goes to home default screen and do not just unlock the screen and keep it there where I was last, this was not the case with my sgs2 or sgs3.
If I press the lock screen button instead it does what I want but I prefer to use home button because its much easier.
Its not a big issue but its annoying sometimes because sometimes I get popup notification windows while the phone is locked (whatsapp for example) and I press the home button to see it and instead of just turning on the screen to see the window it goes back to home screen and the popup is gone, or in cases where I'am writing an email or reading something and meanwhile talking to somebody, if the screen gets locked, If I press the home button everything is gone. So I have to switch tasks to open my activity again.
I don't know if this is a jellybean issue or hardware (homebutton).
I know its not a big deal but I would appreciate if somebody can help get around this
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It seems to be a jellybean feature no way around unless a mod comes out...
All jellybean roms in Note I had this feature and i remember seeing this thing on SGS III jellybean too

Just install the S Voice app , "voicetalk_NLI.apk".
In S Voice, set "double click active S Voice" will fix the issue.

This actually worked! Thanks
But the problem is that i use another app (home2) to control home button which makes me able to control what app runs when double clicking home or even use a combination of home with back or menu.
Its a very good app if you want to try it.
This leaves me with trying to deal with my original issue tho or just return to old factory setting
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ghellxh said:
Just install the S Voice app , "voicetalk_NLI.apk".
In S Voice, set "double click active S Voice" will fix the issue.
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thanks man! used to annoy me so much having to open the app again
edit. There's one slight problem, now it lags a bit to return back to the home screen..

HTC 10 Nougat Menu Button?

Hi, i just updated my phone to Nougat, and i miss the feature of long pressing the recent apps button that gives me a menu button (MM feature?). Is it possible to activate that again? It seems to be replaced with split window feature. In addition, in the display settings, in the buttons section enables the menu button. Does that only show the menu (three dots) button on apps only? (has nothing to do with the capacitive buttons on the phone?)
Thank you for reading this, look forward to a reply
Before Nougat:
Choose from the options: Always open recent apps. Press for menu, press and hold for recent apps. Press for recent apps, press and hold for menu.
After Update:
Display options - buttons- menu button

holding the button on the right to open up split screen is a feature of nougat.
I knew of the feature to hold the button down to bring up a menu, but im guessing it wasnt widely utilised, hence its removal.
There may be a way, using root, to change what the button does, but I wouldnt know how. Someone else probably does though.

silegeek said:
holding the button on the right to open up split screen is a feature of nougat.
I knew of the feature to hold the button down to bring up a menu, but im guessing it wasnt widely utilised, hence its removal.
There may be a way, using root, to change what the button does, but I wouldnt know how. Someone else probably does though.
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Hey thats a bummer, i loved that feature! i not really fond of the split screen feature, its not really that useful to me.
Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully, ill flash a custom rom on this phone soon.

This is bull****! They could at least give us a choice of choosing what does the button do. Now I will have to install a custom rom to get back that menu button

Can someone who has a Twitter account describe this menu button issue to Graham Wheeler or Mo Versi ?
We`ll get a better chance of them fixing it then.

Q: Lock app in memory even after pushing the BACK button?

Hi all,
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to lock an app in memory even if I push the back button?
I am locking 2-3 most frequently used apps from the "Recents" menu but that gets washed away when I press the "Back" button after being done with the respective app.
I know the best option would be to start pushing the "Home" button but over the years I developed a habit of pushing the "Back" button several times to go to home or once to close the app and it's very hard to change behavior now.
I'm on NitrogenOS (8.1) if it matters - stock kernel.
Cheers.

DonnyR said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to lock an app in memory even if I push the back button?
I am locking 2-3 most frequently used apps from the "Recents" menu but that gets washed away when I press the "Back" button after being done with the respective app.
I know the best option would be to start pushing the "Home" button but over the years I developed a habit of pushing the "Back" button several times to go to home or once to close the app and it's very hard to change behavior now.
I'm on NitrogenOS (8.1) if it matters - stock kernel.
Cheers.
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Unless the back button is programmed to kill an app, the app should stay in memory. So check the options for the back button and change it.

It is set to close app. Long press for kill. But still does not work.
If I assign to something else, then basic acknowledge functionality does not work...

DonnyR said:
It is set to close app. Long press for kill. But still does not work.
If I assign to something else, then basic acknowledge functionality does not work...
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Check the long press duration and if possible lengthen it. Or assign double tap for kill and none for long press as an experiment and check.