S4 Mini battery meter gone crazy - Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Short story: I bought a S4 Mini GT-I9195 second hand and the battery meter goes up and down like crazy. Thought that flashing Android 4.2.2 will solve this but couldn't do it (auth error in Odin). Rooting seems soo complicated.
Question: Is it possible that the battery meter issue will be fixed if I root/flash a different ROM?
Long story:
I had in the past a device with Android 4.4.2 (Allview brand) and the battery would drop many percentage points in seconds after several hours/days of what seemed to be normal usage. Now, the same happens with S4 Mini, and this made me believe there's a possibility I can make this phone usable by downgrading to KitKat, since I already have a device with 4.2.2 that works great regarding battery readings.
In more details, the issue is that the battery lasts up to one week if I am not touching the phone. The chart (GSam Battery Meter) shows a steady level decrease. When I use the phone however, there comes a moment (ususally around 40%, but not necessarily) when the battery level drops with 1% every 10 seconds.
It can go from 20-30% to 0% in minutes. After I plug the phone, the battery starts charging from 30-40%.
After unplugging at 100%, usually it goes straight away to about 90%.
I have tried already to clear cache, format the battery, so on. I have also tried to flash 4.2.2 with Odin, but it won't take any other ROM then the latest.
If rooting, and risking to brick the thing, wouldn't do anything to solve this issue, I may be better selling as it is, while it is still working at least. Otherwise, I can't use this phone!
Thank you for your help!

I was having same issue. Tried many things (calibrating battery, changing rom and kernel, flashing different stock roms via odin). But none of them solved this issue.
Changed my battery. Bought new battery(Deji). I don't have this issue anymore.

dobre_dani said:
Short story: I bought a S4 Mini GT-I9195 second hand and the battery meter goes up and down like crazy. Thought that flashing Android 4.2.2 will solve this but couldn't do it (auth error in Odin). Rooting seems soo complicated.
Question: Is it possible that the battery meter issue will be fixed if I root/flash a different ROM?
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Yes, as umuturunc says, sounds like you need a new battery.

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[Q] Is my battery broken?

Hey all,
I am experiencing something like 5% in 10 minuttes on the phone. I've tried different roms and of course stock. Also different kernels. I've tried letting the phone completly drain it selv and afterwards letting it charge fully before booting up again.
I know the phone has terrible battery, but this is crazy. I use 1% by just looking at it, it seems.
Can this be a bug or is the battery done for?
Have you made Factory data and used Google's stock Android ROM..?
This sounds like Battery problem so maybe it's good to change battery.
How long have you had your phone -- if it's been a long time, the battery might have degraded over time (as most batteries do). If that's not the case, your rom could be reporting battery stats incorrectly. If flashing the stock google rom doesn't do any good, your best bet might be getting a new replacement battery.

Battery Sudden Drops

Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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toyanucci said:
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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I had the exact same problem as you are describing but additionally, my overall battery life wasn't lasting as long as it should either. I ended up sending it to Samsung's repair center to get fixed. I'm not sure what they did but some other people on the forums suggested it was a motherboard issue.
So the capacity of the battery seemed just fine but the readings were crazy (dropping from 50 to 5 in minutes and then on reboot back on 50).
After 2-3 full cycles of charging nothing changed. Flashed fw nothing changed. Went to Samsung service and they just informed me that they changed the battery and now performing final checks.
Hope this will solve the issue. I'm too lucky that I am in the "6 months warranty" window for battery...
How does one go about sending it into Samsung? After getting it back, did you see a significant change?
I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure how to go about it.
I haven't got it back yet. They just called me and they said that apart from the battery, they need to change another part (the telephone operator didn't know which part) and I'm going to receive it tomorrow.
So I'll let you know once I receive it.
STELIOSFAN said:
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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After trying everything (flashing different roms via odin, factory reset, full battery cycles etc) the problem never went away.
Went to Samsung service. They checked the battery and had to replace it.... within the warranty.
Same issue here. Just got an email saying its fixed. They changed the charging port and lcd. Weird that they replaced the lcd.
Well I got it back. Seems they broke the s pen function when taking it out or putting in. The tablet thinks it's always out of its slot. I guess another 2 weeks without this thing. What a pain in the ass. Times like this makes me wish I bought an ipad where I could just walk into the store and get it fixed that day.
I had the same problem. I sent it back on Monday and got it back 7 days later. They did not say what they changed, but now everything is working fine. I even got a new usb cable and a magnetic Germany flag
I sent mine in for an overheating problem and they changed the charging port and gave me a new cable. I initially also had the random drops in battery but seems to be better now.. They said bad voltage going to charging the battery or something. Still have overheating so gotta send it in again?
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So guys did you get it fixed? I have exactly the same problem. I have sent it to fix at the sam service - they changed the charging port, but it didn't help anything. 1,5 years of normal usage and now I can pretty much throw it into the toilet. God damn POS!
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 battery drops
Hello all,
Just wanted to inform you all that I have been experiencing these battery drops (yesterday from 93% to a mere 5% in a matter of minutes) for a very long time now. I am running under the latest 4.4.2 stock firmware.
Also, battery life is way below par (understatement !), where the Note sometimes drops to around or below 5% (the magic number below which the screen starts to dim pretty dramatically and there's no way to influence that)
Funny thing is that after the battery drops to below 5% or even 1 or 2%, it's still possible to use the tablet for quite a number of hours afterwards, which suggests it may be something with the logic estimating/determining the remaining battery capacity, rather than the battery itself....)
Now I've tried draining the battery and fully recharging it multiple times/ resetting the stats using free apps / revert to factory settings etc.
All to no avail unfortunately, this problem simply keeps coming back.
(By the way: Apart from the battery and battery life, the Note is an excellent device, and delivers as promised.
Please also note that charging it through the microUSB cable is also simple, stable and relatively fast, unless you compare it of course to my all new Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which has a superior fast charge mode and offers the highest possible battery-life at this moment and easily beats any other smartphone (including the usual suspects from that Cupertino-based firm of which I can't force my mind to remember the name of.....) in this price-quality and performance category )
As for warranty:
Battery is no longer under warranty, the device itself is.
As such, I will now get the battery replaced by a new Samsung OEM-battery first, and see if that resolves the issue.
If it doesn't help, I will send it in for repair for Samsung.
I will keep you all informed on the resolution and cause.
Likewise, if there's anyone that has gotten to the root cause of this issue, please let me / let us know
Some users reported some 'magic part' OTHER than the battery itself (motherboard / charging circuit or even the lcd ??) having been replaced by Samsung after sending it in for repair.
That information could be very valuable to us all in trying to get Samsung to resolve the issue, so I would really appreciate it if someone would share this info in this thread.
Hey I know that there hasn't been much activity on this particular thread, but i too have been experiencing this problem for over a year now. I sent it into samsung twice and it still never fixed the issue and by the time i was going to send it in the 3rd time it was out of warranty. I personally removed the back cover and unplugged the battery for a while and that did not help. I have tried flashing different ROMS and kernels to no avail until last week. I flashed Temasek's Unofficial Build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/lt03wifi-temaseks-unofficial-build-t2980604 and after 3 full power cycles i have not had a single random drop yet i even managed to go 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time which is a record for me with this device. Not sure if it will help everyone but this seems to have solved my problem and i am thrilled! Also (as embarrassing as it is) i played 2.5 hours of Clash of Clans straight without a single random drop either.
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
KwestJones said:
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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Hello KwestJones,
I've successfully replaced the battery in the Note 10.1 2014, and it has improved things. With a little care, this is easy to do. Just removing the battery connector is a bit typical, you need to lift it carefully and slightly to remove it.
The result is not as drastic of an improvement as I would like to have seen, but at least the sudden drops in battery capacity percentage seem to be under control now.
I am doing a video test now, and will see how it behaves and let you know.
BR,
Maarten
Very curious to hear if replacing the battery corrected this issue. I've been experiencing this same battery drop issue for 2 or 3 months and the unit is well outside of warranty. Hoping there's a simpler fix, but willing to replace the battery if that will work since the tablet itself is still a great unit.
Complete factory reset should clear the Android Coulometer's data base or learning algorithm. Just clearing options of Battery Monitor Widget for rooted devices won't help. There are some other apps, which seem to help if the charge level never reaches 100%, a related, but not identical problem.
I have an old tablet suffering from this, with a tweaked custom rom, and i didn't want to clear and setup that completely. The algorithm or database is "learning" again, and the capacity jumps have become fewer and smaller over the last months. It should depend on how long the device was used and never reset before the incident. In my case over a year.
Itvs much like my cars fuel calculator, which won't work correctly during traffic light stops. Right after starting the engine, fuel consumption can raise several liters/h, when the car don't drive, as it uses the last sampled value(every 30 meters). And you need several kilometers to drive to have these levels drop to realistic ones again. While after a long driving distance, a traffic light stop will hardly have an influence.

[Q] Rapid Battery Loss & Rebooting Restores Battery?

So, my battery is wack... and I think it's only been acting like this since I went to a KK ROM? Maybe? Feels like it...
I've had this tablet since it was released last fall, and this behavior is very recent.
Anyways, it dies FAST. Like nose dives in a matter of 5-15 minutes. What's even weirder, is that sometimes, if I power cycle the device, it'll jump up by 30-60%. But then just dies again in another 5-15 minutes.
And there's a screenshot after I just power-cycled.
It jumped from 11% to 71%!!
Crazy!
I've also tried letting it get to 5% then charging it to 100%, done that twice. No luck. I don't know if this is related, but if I power it completely off, and plug it in, it turns on... kinda weird. My Note 3 doesn't do that, it just stays off and shows the battery charge indicator.
NaxIonz said:
So, my battery is wack... and I think it's only been acting like this since I went to a KK ROM? Maybe? Feels like it...
I've had this tablet since it was released last fall, and this behavior is very recent.
Anyways, it dies FAST. Like nose dives in a matter of 5-15 minutes. What's even weirder, is that sometimes, if I power cycle the device, it'll jump up by 30-60%. But then just dies again in another 5-15 minutes.
And there's a screenshot after I just power-cycled.
It jumped from 11% to 71%!!
Crazy!
I've also tried letting it get to 5% then charging it to 100%, done that twice. No luck. I don't know if this is related, but if I power it completely off, and plug it in, it turns on... kinda weird. My Note 3 doesn't do that, it just stays off and shows the battery charge indicator.
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Hi, I have similar problem and I am with 4.3 android. I have battery loss when I play games. It drops to 2-3% really fast and after reboot it goes up to 35-40%. Once I fully depleted my battery and charge it. This time there were no battery lost. After the second charging problem persists.
If you manage to fixed it please tell us how.
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Hi, I have similar problem and I am with 4.3 android. I have battery loss when I play games. It drops to 2-3% really fast and after reboot it goes up to 35-40%. Once I fully depleted my battery and charge it. This time there were no battery lost. After the second charging problem persists.
If you manage to fixed it please tell us how.
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No fix yet... still looking for a solution
NaxIonz said:
No fix yet... still looking for a solution
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In other thread one guy says that he has the same problem and he just go to the store and they change his battery.
Rupar4o said:
In other thread one guy says that he has the same problem and he just go to the store and they change his battery.
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Well, I doubt that I can do that since I have a Custom ROM on my tablet
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same here
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
vashminted said:
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
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sorry to revive an old thread. I have this exact issue! it's driving me bonkers! Any fixes?
brett_day said:
sorry to revive an old thread. I have this exact issue! it's driving me bonkers! Any fixes?
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try this, bring life back to battery. If you use the trial version, keep exit and redo it until all cells are done.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BoshBashStudios.batterydoctorrepair
buhohitr said:
try this, bring life back to battery. If you use the trial version, keep exit and redo it until all cells are done.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BoshBashStudios.batterydoctorrepair
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perfect thanks. I will def give this a try.
brett_day said:
perfect thanks. I will def give this a try.
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Well unfortunately this has not worked....battery is still tanking. last night i played plague for 30 minutes....in 30 mins battery went from 90% to 25%. I think i will try reflashing KitKat....maybe my original update was screwy. If that does not fix it then I guess I will have to call Sammy.
Man i ha e exactly the same problem. I calibrated it some months ago and it seemed to work fine. Now the problem is back.... Dont know what to do... I have tried several apps, though i read google doesn't recomend to use any app to fix the battery... we really need help here
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vashminted said:
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
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Bumping up I have the same exact problem... any fixes?
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Sorry to bump this, has anyone found a solution yet.
I've replaced the battery 3 times in about 9 months, but had this issue about a yr, was sent back to Samsung who changed the battery and supposedly updated the fw 4.4.2, I have since replaced the battery another 3 times every 3 months, each time either factory resetting or flashing a new rom, currently on official Smp600 5.1.1 BTU rom, today my battery was on 47%, I plugged in charger and was watching/streaming a movie on it, about 80 minutes later the tablet shut off, which was odd it's never powered off while on charge, powered it back on and battery said 19%, my previous issues has been the same as others, it can be on 100%, play a game, or stream a movie,or watch youtube etc and it will nosedive dramatically 20/30% at a time, sometimes within 10 mins it's gone from 100% to less than 30%, it's clear there's some sort of issue if others have it, I was wondering if a thread should be made to list ppl with this issue to see how many there are and go from there.
reeps said:
Sorry to bump this, has anyone found a solution yet.
I've replaced the battery 3 times in about 9 months, but had this issue about a yr, was sent back to Samsung who changed the battery and supposedly updated the fw 4.4.2, I have since replaced the battery another 3 times every 3 months, each time either factory resetting or flashing a new rom, currently on official Smp600 5.1.1 BTU rom, today my battery was on 47%, I plugged in charger and was watching/streaming a movie on it, about 80 minutes later the tablet shut off, which was odd it's never powered off while on charge, powered it back on and battery said 19%, my previous issues has been the same as others, it can be on 100%, play a game, or stream a movie,or watch youtube etc and it will nosedive dramatically 20/30% at a time, sometimes within 10 mins it's gone from 100% to less than 30%, it's clear there's some sort of issue if others have it, I was wondering if a thread should be made to list ppl with this issue to see how many there are and go from there.
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I've been having the same issue for some time now. Calibrating the battery does help, I don't experience the problem nearly as much after calibrating it. But it'll still nosedive on occasion, maybe once a week. This is the app I use to calibrate it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration

[Q] Terrible with battery percentage incorrect.

Hello.
My device is GT-N5100 with a custom KK TouchWiz based ROM
I have terrible with battery percentage meter incorrect.
Sometimes charging form 30% to 60% it's suddenly jump to 100% but still charging for a long time may be long than 1 hour to show battery full.
And sometimes with discharge ,battery percentage meter show much than 16% then suddenly depleted battery to power off itself.
I also ever face this issue from stock KitKat.
Any way to fix it ?
Same problem her
memooffon said:
Hello.
My device is GT-N5100 with a custom KK TouchWiz based ROM
I have terrible with battery percentage meter incorrect.
Sometimes charging form 30% to 60% it's suddenly jump to 100% but still charging for a long time may be long than 1 hour to show battery full.
And sometimes with discharge ,battery percentage meter show much than 16% then suddenly depleted battery to power off itself.
I also ever face this issue from stock KitKat.
Any way to fix it ?
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Hi, Yes I have this same problem. Don't know why it happens and don't know how to fix it. Charging for a long time and very little % increase leave it for a little while longer and it pops up to 100%. No idea why it does this.
I have the same problem, I have already rooted my device and tried some apps to recalibrate It but useless
A battery pull (I.e. disconnect the battery for 15-60 mins) will help reset the fuel chip, but the issue with incorrect calibration will eventually return over time. Rooting the device, installing Xposed and the Wanam Xposed module and disabling Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaling (DVFS) once you've performed the battery pull helps a lot to prevent the issue from returning. Deleting Battery Stats does absolutely nothing.
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rtiangha said:
A battery pull (I.e. disconnect the battery for 15-60 mins) will help reset the fuel chip, but the issue with incorrect calibration will eventually return over time. Rooting the device, installing Xposed and the Wanam Xposed module and disabling Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaling (DVFS) once you've performed the battery pull helps a lot to prevent the issue from returning. Deleting Battery Stats does absolutely nothing.
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Thank you very much for your suggestions.
I ever disconnected battery two times but it can not help just little different (before disconnect battery 50% after connected increase to 67%)
I will try Xposed module to disabling Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaling and I will report you back.
I hope it will be better.
Your battery is dying. Change it to a new one. Buy a new one off ebay & do it yourself, its fairly easy.
His battery *could* be dying, but a bunch of us with Note 8s have encountered the same issues with reported battery voltages jumping all over the place resulting in the fuel chip thinking that, on average, it has 40% less juice before it thinks it's empty and dies. The net result is that many people are getting 3-4 hours of battery life, rather than the 7-10+ hours they should be getting. Someone on these forums tracked it down to how DVFS interacts with how the fuel chip gets calibrated over time and another person managed to snag a copy of the fuel chip's data sheet but the instructions on the sheet on how to reset the chip in software didn't seem to work, hence the battery pull needed to reset the chip to use its stock curves.
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Thank you all.
I went the new battery route with a New Power 99 one from Amazon. Nerve-wracking as Hell to put it in cuz I didn't want to screw my device up but really was easy. Now zero problems. How long this will last is, of course, the question. But even if I get another year out of it that'll bee good. I suggest you try that.
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I went the new battery route with a New Power 99 one from Amazon. Nerve-wracking as Hell to put it in cuz I didn't want to screw my device up but really was easy. Now zero problems. How long this will last is, of course, the question. But even if I get another year out of it that'll bee good. I suggest you try that.
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Thanks.
But I allready change new battery from Samsung about 6 weeks ago.
It is too expensive in my country but it has 3 mount guarantee from Samsung.
Everything seems OK.
Problem solved
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I have the same problem, I have already rooted my device and tried some apps to recalibrate It but useless
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Hi everybody
I have the same problem with my n5100 device, my battery % suddenly jump when charging and when discharging. So, I have returned my tablet to the post sale customer service as part of 1 year of warranty, they have changed the motherboard and now it work perfectly:good:. Actually the problem was not related to the battery
After month testing with an ebay cheapie knoxed 4.4.2 Note 8.0... All Samsungs have DVFS in the Touchwiz's build. The only way to fly is to disable it with wanam kit or DVFS disabler or Wanam xposed. Though I rather live with unplugging and plugging back in the power than to deal with Wanam's battery sucking issues with KK. Until wanam is redesigned for KK, I'm staying away.

S4 Mini overheat and battery drain after KitKat Update

Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
Mee too I have this problem
gian90t said:
Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
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You have to root and install recocery on your device. There's a thread arnd here created by Arco for you to find the recovery files. He also provided a kernel for KitKat regarding the wakelocks if im not mistaken. So flash that kernel and like i said, recovery and root is needed.
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You may have a faulty firmware installed. Try updating to the latest one with Odin from sammobile.com.
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
znayver said:
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
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Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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tnx for your information...which that be soon suported 4.4
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
gian90t said:
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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Yes, probably the only things to do is flash a new kernel and a new rom.
But i bought only 6 months ago this f***ed Samsung, so I don't wanna loose the warranty (i love my old Galaxy Next, i could flash it how many times i wanted, because there isn't no stupid knox)
I installed the App Opp Xposed Framework, i found that Google Service uses location even if i say him to don't use it, and even if i turn off gps. So I stop him, I even stop the "keep awake" options in his menù.
But in 5-10 minutes i didn't watch any differences in battery life.
So, i risked to put off "keep awake" in "Android System" (because i watched that "android system" keep awake the phone often), and nothing it's happening now. I am charging my phone, then I will try if there's battery improvement (but i don't think)
Same issue here. Got the phone two weeks ago. Sometimes during charging it would heat up to 47C. Also is this normal battery life?
Note: Power saving is on.
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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Its a Samsung problem. People actually told me to steer clear off 4.4 update to get away from problems like this.
You guys should try the S5 ROM here.
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RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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What app is that? (1st screenshot)
ppero196 said:
What app is that? (1st screenshot)
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Battery; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macropinch.pearl
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
gian90t said:
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
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I would be better off with a custom ROM than Offcial Samsung Stock ROM. 4hrs of SOT (without WiFi) just with light browsing, gaming and some video watching
I do understand you guys don't wanna void warranty but I guess its better than buying batteries every month
Anyways, i guess some improvement for this is simply to wait for Samsung's update OR try out greenify. I believe Greenify can hibernate apps that causes the most overheating
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For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
adrokon said:
For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
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I put the S5 Proyect rom with Brisk Kernel and the problem persist.
It's not possibile was an hardware problem, because in Jeally Bean was everything fine.
But now it's really strange, sometimes the battery drain a lot, but yesterday night with the 10% i use it a lot to whatsapp before to see it shut down automatically. I don't kwow what to do
A battery isn't considered hardware by most as its a consumable; its not expected to last the lifetime of the phone.
Just because it was fine on JB you can't discount the battery cells failing. I assume you went from JB to KK, and not downgrade? If so i believe the screen zapping the battery too much causing the battery to begin failing holds true...ie, 6 months ago it was fine on JB but now its bad. Between then and now the battery has been hammered.

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