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Hi,
i want to start a discussion with those of you who have such unstable Desires.
I am one of the sad guys having one of them. It seems that there are a few Desires which do not run like all the others.
A typical thing with this Desires are complete freezes of Android. Very often they happen when the screen is off, the phone is idle and recieve a SMS or a Phone call. The phone freezes imediately and you are never informed of the SMS or Call. It is just lost. You just detect that you can not power on your phone and must remove the battery to get it back to life.
I have this starnge freezes with every ROM. Most people do not believe you because they do not have the problems.
I have tried several things till now.
- A new SD Card
- Several ROMS
- Allways full wipe
- Allways format SD card with gparted
- Allways start from scratch without backup of Apps
- Different Kernels
- Delvik internal
- uvm...
But all of this things did not help! It seemed that only i have the Problem and i was thinking its a hardware defekt.
I was searching for a new Android device as i again installed a new ROM and read from someone with the same problems. I also read about the UV capabilities of Deamon Controller.
So i give this a try.
I now have installed AIO 3.0.4 on CM7r2 with x2sd with latest radio and one Ext4 partition. First of all i went to deamon controller and put up the voltages a little bit. And since i have done this my freezes nearly are gone.
I now played around with the settings and it turns out that you must find the right values. To much voltage is not good and to less is also not good.
It seems that there are some CPU's in some desires which are not very stable and do not like the OC / UV.
It would be very nice to know about your expirience with unstable Desires and what you have done to fix this. Perhaps we can also find good values for UV.
Or we can find a mix of things to make this Desires also stable.
Regards
Kai
It's a known issue that too much undervolting or overclocking leads to CPU freezes, or kernel panic and then restarts. That different boards have different thresholds of these is also known. That's why we usually built locks for CPU freq and voltages while booting up, and then the user is responsible for experimenting with different freq/volt values and finally arriving at an optimium range for his CPU.
Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Do you know what are the default settings in a standard rom? Is there a CPU freq and voltage change or is the standard 998 and 1275 mv?
My problem is that standard settings, tables from custom roms did not work for my desire. It is really very unstable wiith this settings and i am hoping to find other Desire users having the same problem to find a good solution.
Thanks again for the help.
Yes, 998 Mhz is the standard freq at which freq is usually locked/
Thanks again, so using 998 with 1275 schould be the normal mode every desire is supposed to work with?
I am happy
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
kai-t said:
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
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I hope this works with my setup. I have not applied wht you've listed. And I am on stock hboot, 4 GB class 4, Clockwork Mod recovery...
Will try it later in the day. Thanks!
Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai
Well, been a few hours now since I applied those settings.
Total of three force closes- Facebook, Mail and Sense.
Comparatively lesser than what it was earlier, but force closes nonetheless.
Yes, I did find that "improvement" in responsiveness but the lag returned.
I'm looking at other options, too.
Sorry for the delayed response. Wanted to wait a few hours before sharing what I observed.
Thanks for those additional points, mate. Will try them later in the day...
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kai-t said:
Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai
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Thanks Kai,
finally i found someone with the same problem,
firstly i even try to use another kernel just like gingerbread 0.9 or 0.8.
I forgot the low-voltage influence(just like OC in Computer),
thank for your sharing~
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
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Hope you succeed in it.
I just replied you yesterday & set the UV setting before I slept last night.
And I have fully charge with battery in 100%.
But it still happened again, drained of battery to 30% and froze.
Also I have late for work without alarm clock.
I dont want to give up, but it is hard.
kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
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Changing UV din help me too.. So back on Samsung SD card (class 2) and it works fine.. I would suggest you to try with Samsung SD cards, cause they have better read speed.. I never has even i single with Samsung SD card but with Sandisk class 4 i had many freezes with same ROM and setup...
Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai
kai-t said:
Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai
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I guess for me it was more over SD card issue.. My be your case is different .. best of luck on new setup.. I will be buying new SD card soon
Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai
I don't want to be the spoilsport, but I've got the same problem only with my Samsung 16gb class 6 card, not with my "older" Sandisk class 2. But this card is way too slow for sense 3.5.
I've tried the higher UV values, which solved the freezing problem for a few days. But only temporary.
I'm considering switching to an ASOP ROM, just to keep my phone running stable. It often crashes on incoming calls or during nighttime. I missed a lot of calls and alarms.
kai-t said:
Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai
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Thanks for the tips.. I do get great battery while display is off, but when display is on it consumes lots of battery.. For this, some one asked to set the auto brightness to lowest. in rcmix display settings..
After months of suffering the random freezes and blank screens I've came to the conclusion that my problem stems from the sd card (not the actual card as I've tried a few) but the component which holds the card.
I've returned the phone to cpw but got it back untouched!
The way I test if it's the sd card if to open my camera app and if the small box in the bottom right of the screen is not showing the last picture taken (it shows black instead) then I turn phone off, push down on the sd card, reboot, and everything works - for a while!
Edit-I'm using the oxygen ROM so the camera app is the aosp one. If you have a file explorer then trying to open a file on your sd card will also let you know if there is a problem
Hi iain2510,
which camera app do you use? I do not have this small box.
Regards
Kai
My One X (international version) face overheating which leads to restart
here is the common situation, I use my phone for watching videos, playing a game or web browsing, then I put the phone into my poket, after 10 minutes or so, I feel the vibration and finding that the mobile is restarting and it is hot in the back upper area (around camera lens)
that was happening due to some heavy gaming, but now even for the smallest tasks (viewing some pics for half hour), and in my pocket the restart, which could happen twice a day or so
I was using a leather cover and afterward did not use it, thinking it might keep the mobile from releasing its temperature
is that ordinary? I like HTC since My desire but now I think of selling it, lose some money and Buy SIII (I'm not big fan of Samsung though)
I'm on the stock OS not rooted
any thoughts?
Are you using a custom ROM ? You can also try downloading CPU Spy and see how your CPU behaves.
PhoenixFx said:
Are you using a custom ROM ? You can also try downloading CPU Spy and see how your CPU behaves.
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no I'm not even rooted the phone yet
Have you try to update the root with the last official RUU ?
Maybe It could help you. Versions 2.xx are better for this.
An other thing. It can come from a software running in background.
You can try to hardreset your phone and reinstall software one by one, with time between two installations to find wath app causing the problem. To see if your cpu work in background, install cool CPU or something else. You will see if the CPUs are busy while your on the home.
If you don t want to hard reset, you can try to uninstall all software, but I think it s less good.
Before uninstalling, try to find the application causing overheating with task manager.
Hope it s can help. Don t hesitate to thanks me
Stupid question but are you running at full brightness all the time (this heats up the phone).
Get hold of 'better battery stats' and check if any app is eating the battery
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
First of all, Hi everyone - chefs, users and admins!
I am writing this post with a really heavy heart now, almost bleeding experience happened to me from nowhere about 2 months ago. I feel quite an advanced "flashoholic", however I've broke up with that few years ago. In 2013 I sold my Note 2 and started "new life" with Android, bought a DSLR and engaged into photography. This year, in february I have bought a tablet as I needed really something for business purposes, and I have chosen a Tab S 10.5 LTE. I didn't ever hear about any Knox tripping or anything, and as soon as it arrived I flashed a AOSP ROM to my thingie as I love AOSP overall. Than strange things started to happen with my CPU. As I recall I have noticed it first after installing Xposed to the tablet - it started heating pretty badly. When I checked my CPU states through ROM Toolbox etc I noticed it sometimes freezes at frequencies around 1.7-1.9 GHz, and during this behavior max frequencies could even fluctuate from 1.7 to 1.8, 1.9 and so on. It looks like "something" changes max frequency setting of CPU as it wants, whenever it wants to and pushes usage to the maximum.
Now, I started to look for a fix - uninstalled Xposed, every root apps etc. Nothing stopped it. I was "pretty sure" the cause is in AOSP thing and the conflict between my hardware and custom AOSP Roms. So after 2 months of tryouts to solve the problem, I today reflashed TW to "finally" get rid if this and save my battery life. What shocked me was... the bug is still here! Even with 0 apps installed, all ROM stock and clean, my CPU goes crazy, the back is hot, and CPU monitoring apps show a hard usage of 1.9 and 1.8 GHz frequencies. At this point I started to panic.
To mention - before I posted this here, tried to search over xda, googling it and so on, but it seems noone has such problem anywhere! As long as I know I can't get my warranty back, and I feel really panic and don't know what to do. I am asking experienced devs or anyone who faced it before for some help, on my knees. This tablet is great, but pretty useless when my battery hits 20% after 4 hours!
EDIT
I snapped a screenshot of some kernel options I don't understand, however someone maybe would find any wrong input here (as I can change them thanks to the app). Thanks. PS. I have changed max fr tp 550 in order to avoid heating and battery drainage, to this moment thayt's the only way I know to stop it.
Thank you very much for any help and advices, and sorry for my bad english.
/K.Z.
Try installing Watchdog, and in the setting include phone and all other process monitoring, see if it can locate what is taxing your cpu.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en_GB
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Try installing Watchdog, and in the setting include phone and all other process monitoring, see if it can locate what is taxing your cpu.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en_GB
John.
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Thank you, I will try it. Very helpful. I'll post how it's gone.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Try installing Watchdog, and in the setting include phone and all other process monitoring, see if it can locate what is taxing your cpu.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en_GB
John.
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Hi John, it looks like that option doesn't work. I see that none of apps exceeds CPU usage over 10%, but the clock still goes on 1.7GHz etc. Sometimes it cools down, but it happens rarely.
Did you adjust the setting to monitor all phone processes, even if you have an wifi only tablet still do this.
John.
Thejungle said:
Hi John, it looks like that option doesn't work. I see that none of apps exceeds CPU usage over 10%, but the clock still goes on 1.7GHz etc. Sometimes it cools down, but it happens rarely.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Did you adjust the setting to monitor all phone processes, even if you have an wifi only tablet still do this.
John.
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Sure, but the app doesn't seem to have any options button anywhere, just 3 tabs... sorry. However I can see it is monitoring all system apps also, if it helps.
it`s been a while, i will install it on my T800
John.
Thejungle said:
Sure, but the app doesn't seem to have any options button anywhere, just 3 tabs... sorry. However I can see it is monitoring all system apps also, if it helps.
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Hold the button left of the home button down to get the settings, the left touchkey button hold it down to get settings.
John.
Thanks but umm.. nothing happens. Tried holding down task switch capacitive button for few seconds on every tab, but it just goes to task switch view.
Strange, I just hold the button down and within 2 seconds the strip along the bottom of the display appears, maybe you are in the wrong mode, there are three section on the top of the screen, you need to select the far left one called STATS.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Strange, I just hold the button down and within 2 seconds the strip along the bottom of the display appears, maybe you are in the wrong mode, there are three section on the top of the screen, you need to select the far left one called STATS.
John.
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VERY strange. I did it on all 3 tabs, just nothing happens. Is it possible that app changes maximum frequency of my CPU? I don't believe any app has possibility to do it on it's own...
Have you tried it again with watchdog on the same screen in my screenshot then press the button, watchdog does not change cpu frequency.
John.
I used to have the same problem on AOSP roms and some Touchwiz roms! When you first flash it and set things up, CPU usage is fine. But after a few days maybe hours, CPU would do the same exact thing like yours! Then my device gets hot and drains battery.
I found this to be a problem with AOSP 5.1.1 roms. Resurrection remix, CM12, PAC ROM and yeah. Never had problems on Cm11. The only ROM that solved my heating issues and no cpu problems are AOSP roms on 5.0.2 or Liquid Smooth rom. 5.0.2 was bug free. Liquid Smooth ROM has an custom kernel which helps cool down the device and reduce the high CPU usage. Seems to be the only ROM without issues for me on 5.1.1. For Touchwiz roms, I just install skyhigh kernel and turn on hotplugging and CPU multicore power saving to solve heat issues. But really on Touchwiz roms, CPU is fine most of the time for me.
My device is SM-T800 BTW. This is what I found out from flashing many roms.
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Hi everyone
First of all, I'm not an expert and I'm not a developer as well; I'm just a geek who loves to understand things and solve problems. Now, since I first bought the Mi Mix 3, I noticed that I always had a problem with the battery discharge. When the phone was locked, in fact, it kept discharging very quickly and during the winter, now that my hands are colder than my ex-girlfriend heart, I could notice that even if the phone has been locked for hours, it's always a little bit warm. So he keeps doing something in the background. On the other hand, I never decided to go deeper into this, because I use two LTE sim cards and the network signal in my room is very bad, so I always end up thinking "Maybe the problem is the quality of the signal, the phone keeps attempting to connect to the mobile antennas and it needs a lot of energy". The fact is that my Mi Mix 3 kept discharging even with a very good signal, like 100m straight line to the tower. But again, I thought it was because of the bad optimization of the beta Chinese ROM (I was testing the MIUI 11).
Ok, Two days ago, I finally decided to flash a custom ROM. I love the MIUI but the temptation of flashing stuff is too high, so I went ahead, I downloaded the Evolution X 2.1 and I finally flashed it. The problem was still there. Moreover, now I'm using only one sim card. So let's flash Magisk and then BetterBatteryStats. And finally, I discovered the real problem: The DAMN CPU (both BIG cores and LITTLE cores) never go into the deep sleep state, literally. So I downloaded Kernel Auditor for more details and listen here: when the phone is locked, the BIG cores remain at their minimum frequency (825 MHz) as well as the Little ones (576 MHz, I could set it to 300 and actually I noticed a slight improvement). But no Deep Sleep at all; Kernel Auditor itself says "Never used frequencies: Deep Sleep".
So excellent! The Deep Sleep state doesn't exist at all into my phone, I'd understand having a small percentage of it, but nothing at all, what kind of problem is that? I checked the wakelocks anyway, but there was nothing weird going on. The highest value on the Kernel wakelocks was because of the display management and on the partial ones, the highest was the Google Play Services (Nah, just 1%). So wakelocks were fine. I ended up thinking that the problem was the FIrmware or the Kernel, that's something I'll never know maybe. But I managed to solve the problem.
How did I solve it?
Right at this moment I'm using the Evolution X 2.1 ROM and, to be frank, I thought it could solve the problem but it didn't. For instance, I also tried different governors instead of the schedutil set by default, like conservative or powersave, nothing changed again.
"Ok ok, enough about that, how can I solve it?"
You have to install the XASP (M.A.R.S.) mod. This will solve your problem.
Check the topic:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-3/development/rom-xasp-xiaomi-aosp-snapdragon-patch-t3931721
And the developer's website:
https://sites.google.com/view/miustone/HOME
And the developer's GitHub repository related to the project:
https://github.com/Miustone/MARS-Patch
Some hints:
You need an AOSP ROM in order to make it work. It won't work on any MIUI ROM (I think)!
The installation instructions say that you should flash it right after a fresh install of the ROM (It must be Android 9 / SDK 28 - AOSP ARM64), but I flashed it even after a few days of using and it worked as well.
You need to clone/download the repository, unzip it, move into the unzipped directory (where there's the META-INF), select everything and compress it into a zip file and that will be the patch you should flash using the TWRP recovery.
P.S. I know, it's not really a solution, I mean, If you don't want to root your phone, you have to rely on the original version of the MIUI, but from what I've seen, bot MIUI 10 global developer and MIUI 11 china developer have this problem. If you just don't want a custom ROM but you rooted your phone, you could try the MIUI EU ROM, I don't know if it has the same problem tho.
And finally, let your CPU rest a little bit!
UPDATE: The MIUI EU ROM works very well. The phone manages to go in the deep sleep state as well and everything works fine. So if you don't want to flash multiple zips and do tricky things, just use the MIUI EU ROM and you'll be ok. Let's keep reporting any deep sleep issue here tho!
And thanks everyone for the help!
EU MIUI 11 does not have the problem. I got fed up with the various inadequacies of the current AOSP-based roms and decided to give MIUI another go, although I previously disliked it intensely. Turns out that the EU version of MIUI 11 is stunningly good. Camera works properly, including with the slider, it's super-smooth and fast, notifications work correctly, but the biggest difference is battery life because when the screen is off there's almost no drain at all (in contrast to all the other ROMs I've tried). The only thing I didn't like about MIUI 11 was the launcher, even with the new app drawer option it's still not to my taste, but with Nova installed it works just like AOSP.
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EU MIUI 11 does not have the problem. I got fed up with the various inadequacies of the current AOSP-based ROMs and decided to give MIUI another go, although I previously disliked it intensely. Turns out that the EU version of MIUI 11 is stunningly good. Camera works properly, including with the slider, it's super-smooth and fast, notifications work correctly, but the biggest difference is battery life because when the screen is off there's almost no drain at all (in contrast to all the other ROMs I've tried). The only thing I didn't like about MIUI 11 was the launcher, even with the new app drawer option it's still not to my taste, but with Nova installed it works just like AOSP.
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Well, this is a great thing to hear! Actually, the Evolution X 2.1 with that mod is just amazing, but the preinstalled GCam (Which works perfectly with pictures instead of the one you can install on the MIUI) can't take videos in 4K, only FHD; in general, I find the MIUI camera app excellent, but I can't find it and I'm quite sure I can't use it on this ROM. So maybe I'll give the MIUI 11 EU a try as well, thank you for sharing!
P.S. Turned out that I was having the deep sleep issue even after flashing the patch, but I was able to notice that it was because of the Google Photo app, so check for that if you're experiencing the battery drain problem.
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Well, this is a great thing to hear! Actually, the Evolution X 2.1 with that mod is just amazing, but the preinstalled GCam (Which works perfectly with pictures instead of the one you can install on the MIUI) can't take videos in 4K, only FHD; in general, I find the MIUI camera app excellent, but I can't find it and I'm quite sure I can't use it on this ROM. So maybe I'll give the MIUI 11 EU a try as well, thank you for sharing!
P.S. Turned out that I was having the deep sleep issue even after flashing the patch, but I was able to notice that it was because of the Google Photo app, so check for that if you're experiencing the battery drain problem.
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Yes! I'm somewhat shocked at how good MIUI 11 is. The app permissions are still a bit of an annoyance, they seem to install with no permissions by default, so you have to grant them, but there's a new option (I assume it's an Android 10 feature) to allow a permission only while an app is in use which is nice. I've been running it for a few days now and I can't see any reason to go back. The other huge thing it solved for me is the reboot issue with wireless charging that seems to afflict all the AOSP/LOS-based roms (random reboots and bootloops while charging, to test it put your phone on a wireless charger and reboot).
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Yes! I'm somewhat shocked at how good MIUI 11 is. The app permissions are still a bit of an annoyance, they seem to install with no permissions by default, so you have to grant them, but there's a new option (I assume it's an Android 10 feature) to allow a permission only while an app is in use which is nice. I've been running it for a few days now and I can't see any reason to go back. The other huge thing it solved for me is the reboot issue with wireless charging that seems to afflict all the AOSP/LOS-based roms (random reboots and bootloops while charging, to test it put your phone on a wireless charger and reboot).
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Look like you're right! I rebooted my phone while charging it wirelessly and it kept rebooting on MI logo. Interesting bug lol
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Look like you're right! I rebooted my phone while charging it wirelessly and it kept rebooting on MI logo. Interesting bug lol
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Yes, and if you leave it on charge overnight, it will occasionally randomly reboot then bootloop until the light wakes you up. Ask me how I know..... I highly recommend you try MIUI 11, I still haven't found any problems with it and I even managed to get Google Pay working, which I wasn't able to do on any of the other roms.
I know that the collection of scripts and stuff posted above have been massively flamed as causing issues elsewhere in the forums. I would generally caution against installing them as many users ended up fastbooting other MIUI devices after trying to install them. I think the dev who made them is trying to do good things, but I would proceed with caution. As others have mentioned, MIUI11 does not seem to have this problem.
@PWn3R Yep, had a nice stressy afternoon with the patch. Managed to make a few aditional mistakes and was locked out of recovery and ended up flashing the phone through fastboot.
I did fix my battery issues though, and it is running quite well now. Instead of roughly 12 hours of battery life I now get over 24 with the same usage.
I really hate MIUI and will never go back for the simple reason that my phone that I used for development was unable to activate ADB sideloading because it has to validate this against Xiaomi servers. And there was an issue there. To much control over my device is in China, so that is a big no no for me. I rather deal with some custom rom issues than that.
I see, but It's the only way I was able to finally put the phone in deep sleep. I don't know what's wrong with the Mi MIX 3 but it's very hard to see the deep sleep state with any ROM, MIUI or customs doesn't matter. I'm trying the MIUI EU now and guess what? The CPU is constantly running at 576 MHz. Only 2 minutes of deep sleep over an entire day without charging it. I only installed Whatsapp, Telegram X, and BetterBatteryStats. The integrated battery tool shows that WhatsApp is the cause of the massive battery drain (don't know if it's really because it prevents the deep sleep state or because it had to restore all the media after the installation); in any case, BetterbatteryStats, on the partial wakelocks tab, shows WhatsApp but only 1% of wakelocks. So I don't really know what the cause is.
Hi - here's my device with over 150 apps installed. I am running Xaomi EU atm with the latest weekly beta.
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Hi - here's my device with over 150 apps installed. I am running Xaomi EU atm with the latest weekly beta.
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+1. That looks like mine, too. With the screen off, the drain is less than I've ever seen on any device previously. Modified versions of the rom optimized for a device always perform better than AOSP, particularly on battery. It all comes down to whether you can live with the rest of the crap they usually add. EU MIUI 11 is a pretty good compromise, imo, with a third party launcher installed it's very similar to the other roms anyway.
Takenfal said:
Hi everyone
First of all, I'm not an expert and I'm not a developer as well; I'm just a geek who loves to understand things and solve problems. Now, since I first bought the Mi Mix 3, I noticed that I always had a problem with the battery discharge. When the phone was locked, in fact, it kept discharging very quickly and during the winter, now that my hands are colder than my ex-girlfriend heart, I could notice that even if the phone has been locked for hours, it's always a little bit warm. So he keeps doing something in the background. On the other hand, I never decided to go deeper into this, because I use two LTE sim cards and the network signal in my room is very bad, so I always end up thinking "Maybe the problem is the quality of the signal, the phone keeps attempting to connect to the mobile antennas and it needs a lot of energy". The fact is that my Mi Mix 3 kept discharging even with a very good signal, like 100m straight line to the tower. But again, I thought it was because of the bad optimization of the beta Chinese ROM (I was testing the MIUI 11).
Ok, Two days ago, I finally decided to flash a custom ROM. I love the MIUI but the temptation of flashing stuff is too high, so I went ahead, I downloaded the Evolution X 2.1 and I finally flashed it. The problem was still there. Moreover, now I'm using only one sim card. So let's flash Magisk and then BetterBatteryStats. And finally, I discovered the real problem: The DAMN CPU (both BIG cores and LITTLE cores) never go into the deep sleep state, literally. So I downloaded Kernel Auditor for more details and listen here: when the phone is locked, the BIG cores remain at their minimum frequency (825 MHz) as well as the Little ones (576 MHz, I could set it to 300 and actually I noticed a slight improvement). But no Deep Sleep at all; Kernel Auditor itself says "Never used frequencies: Deep Sleep".
So excellent! The Deep Sleep state doesn't exist at all into my phone, I'd understand having a small percentage of it, but nothing at all, what kind of problem is that? I checked the wakelocks anyway, but there was nothing weird going on. The highest value on the Kernel wakelocks was because of the display management and on the partial ones, the highest was the Google Play Services (Nah, just 1%). So wakelocks were fine. I ended up thinking that the problem was the FIrmware or the Kernel, that's something I'll never know maybe. But I managed to solve the problem.
How did I solve it?
Right at this moment I'm using the Evolution X 2.1 ROM and, to be frank, I thought it could solve the problem but it didn't. For instance, I also tried different governors instead of the schedutil set by default, like conservative or powersave, nothing changed again.
"Ok ok, enough about that, how can I solve it?"
You have to install the XASP (M.A.R.S.) mod. This will solve your problem.
Check the topic:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-3/development/rom-xasp-xiaomi-aosp-snapdragon-patch-t3931721
And the developer's website:
https://sites.google.com/view/miustone/HOME
And the developer's GitHub repository related to the project:
https://github.com/Miustone/MARS-Patch
Some hints:
You need an AOSP ROM in order to make it work. It won't work on any MIUI ROM (I think)!
The installation instructions say that you should flash it right after a fresh install of the ROM (It must be Android 9 / SDK 28 - AOSP ARM64), but I flashed it even after a few days of using and it worked as well.
You need to clone/download the repository, unzip it, move into the unzipped directory (where there's the META-INF), select everything and compress it into a zip file and that will be the patch you should flash using the TWRP recovery.
P.S. I know, it's not really a solution, I mean, If you don't want to root your phone, you have to rely on the original version of the MIUI, but from what I've seen, bot MIUI 10 global developer and MIUI 11 china developer have this problem. If you just don't want a custom ROM but you rooted your phone, you could try the MIUI EU ROM, I don't know if it has the same problem tho.
And finally, let your CPU rest a little bit!
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I fixed mine by disabling proximity sensor. My phone got to deep sleep just after
I am running the latest Xiaomi.eu MIUI 11. According the Kernel Adiutor Frequency Table it is going to Deep Sleep whenever not awake, but the lowest frequency for Cores 0-3 is 576MHz, (everything below is unused). Cores 4-7 are almost always in their lowest frequency, 825MHz.
So is this deep sleeping or not? I would not say battery life is amazing. The biggest battery drainer is cell standby, which is more even than screen. I can't get better battery stats to work (keeps repeatedly flashing up the superuser message).
Deep sleep is a know problem on most custom rom, solution: flash XENT kernel, been using RR with xent for a while and deep sleep work well.
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I am running the latest Xiaomi.eu MIUI 11. According the Kernel Adiutor Frequency Table it is going to Deep Sleep whenever not awake, but the lowest frequency for Cores 0-3 is 576MHz, (everything below is unused). Cores 4-7 are almost always in their lowest frequency, 825MHz.
So is this deep sleeping or not? I would not say battery life is amazing. The biggest battery drainer is cell standby, which is more even than the screen. I can't get better battery stats to work (keeps repeatedly flashing up the superuser message).
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There should be a deep sleep state even for the BIG cores; the fact that they remain at the lowest frequency (825 MHz) is not good. Also, I don't understand why, when the phone is locked, the minimum frequency is not lower than 576 MHz when the LITTLE cores could go at 300 MHz, but that's not really a problem). Maybe it's related to the fact that your phone keeps searching for a good signal, and maybe that's why stats tell you that "cell standby" is draining a lot of battery. Is your phone the global version (the phone, not the ROM) or the Chinese one?
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Deep sleep is a known problem on most custom ROM, solution: flash XENT kernel, been using RR with xent for a while and deep sleep work well.
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Interesting, I'd like to give it a try;
UPDATE : Anyway, besides the first deep issue problem, now the phone is working perfectly with the MIUI EU v 11 based on Android 10. When I lock the phone there's no more battery drain AT ALL. If I lock it at 15% and I unlock it after 2 hours, it's still at 15%. This is how deep sleep should Work. Maybe the first problem I had with the EU ROM was related to the google services syncing all my stuff (still don't understand why some things that keep the CPU from going in the deep sleep state are not shown even using BBS).
Note for anyone switching to the weekly MIUI/10 rom, I had microphone issues on calls which appear to be solved by flashing the latest firmware.
Edit: Firmware wasn't the fix. The workaround is to toggle the speakerphone on and off again. The microphone then works on all calls until you reboot the phone, then you have to do the toggle trick again.
GVN.Gallus said:
Deep sleep is a know problem on most custom rom, solution: flash XENT kernel, been using RR with xent for a while and deep sleep work well.
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Where can I find XENT kernel, please?
ChienJian said:
Where can I find XENT kernel, please?
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You can find it in the Mi Mix 3 Global Community telegram group: https://t.me/MiMix3Global
Takenfal said:
There should be a deep sleep state even for the BIG cores; the fact that they remain at the lowest frequency (825 MHz) is not good. Also, I don't understand why, when the phone is locked, the minimum frequency is not lower than 576 MHz when the LITTLE cores could go at 300 MHz, but that's not really a problem). Maybe it's related to the fact that your phone keeps searching for a good signal, and maybe that's why stats tell you that "cell standby" is draining a lot of battery. Is your phone the global version (the phone, not the ROM) or the Chinese one?
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Global version. But I fixed the battery drain. Completely uninstalled WhatsApp, deleted folder and reinstalled latest. Deleted Play Services data. Set preferred network to LTE/WCDMA. Now I have minimal cell-standby and battery doesn't drop significantly when screen is off.
Frequencies remain the same, but maybe the min freq is a red herring - Kernel Adiutor says it spends plenty of time in Deep Sleep.
My phone is usually on idle and not used due to my job. But Im noticing extreme battery consumption even when Im not using it. Never had this issue with other phones. Last night I checked the batter before sleep and it was at 67% at 1 AM, today its 62% at 7 AM so there must be an issue because it should only drain 1 or 2 percents during idle.
In battery settings the top app using the battery is phone idle.
Im on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6 rom but I had the same issue with stop 12.5.3 so I dont think it's because of rom.
I had great battery life with my last phone which was poco x3 nfc with the same settings and apps so it's not because of any third party apps either.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
With AOSP ROMs, I even had worst experience when I installed one of the custom kernels because they somehow didn't put the phone into deep doze correctly. But yeah, the idle consumption is quite high - even on stock Kernel.
Currently I use HavocOS and its stock Kernel - and SuperFreeze (from F-Droid store) to freeze most apps right after screen lock. Idle consumption has dropped to 0.1-0.2%/h as a result. I made a thread some days ago regarding this topic... see here.
Thanks. Im gonna try your guide but it's not the most noob friendly guide I've seen
Just Kidding, thanks for your time.
Oh, my thread wasn't meant to be a guide... I did put it in "Question" like you did, but a mod seems to have moved the thread to "General"
My "solution" is only temporary - at least I hope there are still developers out there who value a low idle drain more than fast charging and benchmark numbers...
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... and SuperFreeze (from F-Droid store) to freeze ...
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Sorry for the OT, could it be that the app. is called SuperFreezZ?
Have you noticed any good battery life gains with this app.?
Yeah, sorry, SuperFreezZ: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/superfreeze.tool.android/
For several months I had the problem that from a certain moment, the consumption at idle suddenly increased enormously (from 0.1-0.2 % to 2-3% per hour). Even if I manually forced all apps to stop, In Android's battery info "Android OS" and "Android System" showed up with double-digit percentages. I could only get the phone back to its previous behavior with a restart.
To date, however, it is not clear to me what triggered this. I suspected GCam for a while, then Osmand+, but I couldn't ever confirm that because the problem didn't start whenever I used those programs, just sometimes.
I never found a real solution for this, but SuperFreezZ did.
The best thing I've used for years now is Greenify, its hasn't received an update in more than a year but still works perfectly
Do we need root to use these apps? I remember using greenify before onmy older devices with root but havent used it for a while. Gonna see how much it drops tonight and then try to tweek some things and recheck it tomorrow night.
Weird thing is, I was getting an awesome battery life out of poco x3 nfc, could it be because of the cpu idle? Because that's the only thing that seems different between the 2 devices. (X3 even had an lcd which is supposedly less battery friendly)
Kianush said:
Do we need root to use these apps?
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Yes.
Kianush said:
I was getting an awesome battery life out of poco x3 nfc
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Unfortunately, hardly anyone notices this because most users do exactly what the F3 was designed for: Playing games.
I came from a 2.5 years old F1 and it lasts easily longer than the F3 although it has a smaller battery and a LCD screen... The F3 behaves anything but fully developed. These latest high-end SOCs (870, 888) are really powerful, but unfortunately not equally power-efficient. That's the reason why I throttled the CPU and undervolted the GPU. This dropped the active drain from ~8 %/h to <5 %/h on my device and my usecases.
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Yes.
Unfortunately, hardly anyone notices this because most users do exactly what the F3 was designed for: Playing games.
I came from a 2.5 years old F1 and it lasts easily longer than the F3 although it has a smaller battery and a LCD screen... The F3 behaves anything but fully developed. These latest high-end SOCs (870, 888) are really powerful, but unfortunately not equally power-efficient. That's the reason why I throttled the CPU and undervolted the GPU. This dropped the active drain from ~8 %/h to <5 %/h on my device and my usecases.
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Yeah. I used to underclock the cpu on my old phones but I dont know about undervolting. wouldnt it cause issues? I just used 3c toolbox app to set a lower max clock and a lower min clock for cpu cores. I read somewhere that rooting xiaomi.eu rom breaks some functions so I havent rooted it yet. do you have any info on that?
Kianush said:
Yeah. I used to underclock the cpu on my old phones but I dont know about undervolting. wouldnt it cause issues?
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As long you don't push too hard with undervolting, it works quite well. See attached image (it's not mine, but I have oriented to it).
Kianush said:
I just used 3c toolbox app to set a lower max clock and a lower min clock for cpu cores.
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I've never heard of it... This seems to be a powerful tool! Nice!
Kianush said:
I read somewhere that rooting xiaomi.eu rom breaks some functions so I havent rooted it yet. do you have any info on that?
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Konabess doesn't need root, afaik. Extract the boot.img of your ROM and copy it into a folder of your device. Then use Konabess to modify the settings and repack it into a modified boot.img. This file you can flash with TWRP. No guarantee that it works for xiaomi.eu, but it works for AOSP (at least it worked for me).
Kianush said:
My phone is usually on idle and not used due to my job. But Im noticing extreme battery consumption even when Im not using it. Never had this issue with other phones. Last night I checked the batter before sleep and it was at 67% at 1 AM, today its 62% at 7 AM so there must be an issue because it should only drain 1 or 2 percents during idle.
In battery settings the top app using the battery is phone idle.
Im on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6 rom but I had the same issue with stop 12.5.3 so I dont think it's because of rom.
I had great battery life with my last phone which was poco x3 nfc with the same settings and apps so it's not because of any third party apps either.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
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I'm ont he same rom as you and let me explain my experience.
My battery has been insanely good. Even with heavy usage over a period of 4 hours, which included 1.5hrs of SoT and pandora playing though bluetooth all 4 of those hours with dolby and viper enabled. Was at 100 and dropped down to 94%. So It may be an app or setting that you have installed causing problems and draining battery. The only battery saver addition I have installed is Universal GMS doze. Idle time for me It takes me about 5 hours to drop down 1%.
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I'm ont he same rom as you and let me explain my experience.
My battery has been insanely good. Even with heavy usage over a period of 4 hours, which included 1.5hrs of SoT and pandora playing though bluetooth all 4 of those hours with dolby and viper enabled. Was at 100 and dropped down to 94%. So It may be an app or setting that you have installed causing problems and draining battery. The only battery saver addition I have installed is Universal GMS doze. Idle time for me It takes me about 5 hours to drop down 1%.
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Well if there is an app that is causing this, it should be shown in the battery settings. But the only thing that is eating up my battery is phone idle. So it might be a service or something. Im out of options right now unless I find a way to root this rom without facing new problems.... Worst thing with miui is that you cant do things like rooting as easy as other roms.
Btw, would you please tell me the settings and xiaomi.eu version you are on? Im on 12.5.6 stable and using 120hz + vivid color scheme and most of my apps are on blcok background activity except my messaging app. And Im losing battery on phone idle not the screen on time!
Ss below.(dropped from 92 to 82 woh only 30mins screen on time doing nothing but checking xda!) And 7hrs of those 9hrs I was asleep and the phone was on airplane mode + gps off!
You could try BBS or similar apps. Maybe it's an app which prevents the phone to go to deep doze (wakelocks).
BTW: MIUI sucks
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Well if there is an app that is causing this, it should be shown in the battery settings. But the only thing that is eating up my battery is phone idle. So it might be a service or something. Im out of options right now unless I find a way to root this rom without facing new problems.... Worst thing with miui is that you cant do things like rooting as easy as other roms.
Btw, would you please tell me the settings and xiaomi.eu version you are on? Im on 12.5.6 stable and using 120hz + vivid color scheme and most of my apps are on blcok background activity except my messaging app. And Im losing battery on phone idle not the screen on time!
Ss below.(dropped from 92 to 82 woh only 30mins screen on time doing nothing but checking xda!) And 7hrs of those 9hrs I was asleep and the phone was on airplane mode + gps off!
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I switch my screen refresh rate down to 60hz but since your phone is idle it really shouldn't come into play unless you have always on display or turn screen on for notifications.
Rooting this phone is amazingly easy. Takes like 5mins if that. My Mi 9 lite took longer to root then this phone.
As far as an app draining battery, It more then likely not it since you saying phone idle, which in the past people have said if you phone has problems with signal this can drain a battery. For me this has been a major issue. With AT&T service I would loose double the amount of battery over night (I play pandora through out the night when sleeping). Also if you have apps that are heavy internet usage (unsure where you at but things like facebook and messenger drain tons and yet don't register battery drain on most analytics. And since you using a xiaomi.eu rom I know alot of those bg services are disabled or removed.
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I switch my screen refresh rate down to 60hz but since your phone is idle it really shouldn't come into play unless you have always on display or turn screen on for notifications.
Rooting this phone is amazingly easy. Takes like 5mins if that. My Mi 9 lite took longer to root then this phone.
As far as an app draining battery, It more then likely not it since you saying phone idle, which in the past people have said if you phone has problems with signal this can drain a battery. For me this has been a major issue. With AT&T service I would loose double the amount of battery over night (I play pandora through out the night when sleeping). Also if you have apps that are heavy internet usage (unsure where you at but things like facebook and messenger drain tons and yet don't register battery drain on most analytics. And since you using a xiaomi.eu rom I know alot of those bg services are disabled or removed.
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Yeah thanks for the info. I used to root my devices easily by flashing magisk but it seems they have changed the method, though I found the method on a post on xiaomi.eu website and rooted my device.
Tried to lower cpu frequencies a little and use superfreez app. It seems better now but not as good as what you say...
Gonna play with settings a little bit more and wait for another xiaomi.eu stable update to see if it's a bug on this version.
Kianush said:
Yeah thanks for the info. I used to root my devices easily by flashing magisk but it seems they have changed the method, though I found the method on a post on xiaomi.eu website and rooted my device.
Tried to lower cpu frequencies a little and use superfreez app. It seems better now but not as good as what you say...
Gonna play with settings a little bit more and wait for another xiaomi.eu stable update to see if it's a bug on this version.
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Someone made a auto script for it, but you will have to reflash rom and factory reset data. You really shouldn't have to change cpu feqs. Also uploading a screenshot of my last 2 hours. I know its only 21min of SoT but also 2 hours off charger but playing pandora as well as some other app usage but still at 100%
esszett said:
As long you don't push too hard with undervolting, it works quite well. See attached image (it's not mine, but I have oriented to it).
I've never heard of it... This seems to be a powerful tool! Nice!
Konabess doesn't need root, afaik. Extract the boot.img of your ROM and copy it into a folder of your device. Then use Konabess to modify the settings and repack it into a modified boot.img. This file you can flash with TWRP. No guarantee that it works for xiaomi.eu, but it works for AOSP (at least it worked for me).
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Konabess without root won't start, any idea?
thanks
tojdvd said:
Konabess without root won't start, any idea?
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Ah, ok... I thought you could load a separate boot.img - my fault, sorry!
Then you've to have root for Konabess...
Just to show what's possible with HavocOS 4.9 and 12.5.6 EEA firmware, see atached screenshot... It's with the stock kernel of HavocOS, but with the modifications I did mention here.
Running for almost 2 days
~8 hrs SOT (2 hrs of which with 120 Hz and 2 hrs of which with 100 % brightness, otherwise 60 Hz and brightness between 25 and 50 %) and still 50 % battery left.