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[Q] Rolling back automatic update 4.4.2 back to 4.1.2

hi developers.. can anyone guide me how to downgrade 4.4.2 from automatic updates of samsung galaxy note 8.0 back to 4.1.2. ?
the battery life drains terrible i cant use it on my studies at school cause of terrible battery draining please help me. im newbie, im only using odin, but when i try to download firmware 4.1.2 on sammobile, it didnt work it said " SW REV. Invalid magic string how i can go back to JB 4.1.2? please help.. my battery performance at 4.1.2 is very good, but here in 4.4.2 is really really terrible. i thought rooting will disable the knox bootloader but it just void the warranty. i really dont know what to do. i hope someone here can help me. thankyou in advance :angel:

glenz0912 said:
hi developers.. can anyone guide me how to downgrade 4.4.2 from automatic updates of samsung galaxy note 8.0 back to 4.1.2. ?
the battery life drains terrible i cant use it on my studies at school cause of terrible battery draining please help me. im newbie, im only using odin, but when i try to download firmware 4.1.2 on sammobile, it didnt work it said " SW REV. Invalid magic string how i can go back to JB 4.1.2? please help.. my battery performance at 4.1.2 is very good, but here in 4.4.2 is really really terrible. i thought rooting will disable the knox bootloader but it just void the warranty. i really dont know what to do. i hope someone here can help me. thankyou in advance :angel:
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Factory Reset and start from scratch.

gooberdude said:
Factory Reset and start from scratch.
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A factory reset initializes the data partition to the default settings but will not back off an upgrade to a previous release. Nor will Kies allow a downgrade of the 4.4.2 ROM, and even if you use Odin to flash and older firmware release, that won't downgrade the 4.4.2 KitKat bootloader.
The best you can do is use Odin to flash the firmware from sammobile.com for an earlier release and live with the 4.4.2 bootloader but that may cause some conflicts with the components of the earlier release. For example, some users have had problems with automatic rebooting or charging issues when the bootloader release doesn't match the rest of the ROM.
Your best bet is really to just stay on 4.4.2 once you've upgraded.
ramjet73

His issue needs to be addressed, wouldn't'a factory reset fix his upgrade issues???
Seems like it is the only way to live with what he has without making things worse.

gooberdude said:
His issue needs to be addressed, wouldn't'a factory reset fix his upgrade issues???
Seems like it is the only way to live with what he has without making things worse.
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A factory reset done from the settings menu only resets the data partition, which includes the system settings, user apps and data, and internal SD card, but doesn't change the underlying Android release at all. I agree that it's worth doing a factory reset to complete/cleanup his upgrade to 4.4.2 if he hasn't done that already, since there are some release dependencies for the settings that are cleared by a factory reset, but it won't downgrade him to his previous Android release as he requested in the OP of this thread.
As I mentioned previously, his best bet is to live with the 4.4.2 configuration since there is currently no way to downgrade the bootloader once it has been upgraded to KitKat, and a hybrid installation of a 4.4.2 bootloader with a kernel and system partition from another Android release can result in a variety of problems.
ramjet73

[Q] Rooted - can't get OTA Lollipop

I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?

tilda said:
I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?
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There's a guide to flashing back to stock in the forum here, I think you need to flash something else too

Thanks - the only guide that I can see about flashing back to stock involves a wipe also.
If you can find a thread that allows a flash back to stock without a wipe, that would be ideal.

tilda said:
Thanks - the only guide that I can see about flashing back to stock involves a wipe also.
If you can find a thread that allows a flash back to stock without a wipe, that would be ideal.
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No such thing exists. If you are going to do a full and proper unroot or return to stock to take an OTA (as you should) your device will be wiped completely. If you would Bump your G3 and install a custom Lollipop rom (I highly recommend this), then you could upgrade to Lollipop by only wiping your system and data partitions, not your Internal Storage as well. You would lose all yours apps, but not the contents of your internal SD card. If you let Google auto-backup and restore all apps and data on the first boot, it will put everything back the way you had it before you're even used to the new Lollipop environment.

I have looked at the custom ROMs - is there a bumped ROM based on stock where "everything works"?

LG PC Suite let me install Lollipop even though I'm rooted?

OTA's get blocked if you're rooted

GuyInTheCorner said:
OTA's get blocked if you're rooted
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Thanks. That was why I started the thread but. thanks for confirming.

le3ky said:
LG PC Suite let me install Lollipop even though I'm rooted?
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I'll give this a go on another computer as whenever i tried the repair or update options,cut kept telling me That it couldn't check the update status. I had assumed That this was tied into the phone being rooted but possibly not.

I think PC Suite doesn't check if you're rooted (AFAIK, don't quote me on this one) but DON'T UPDATE WHILE ROOTED some.people have had bootloops and other issues after updating. Go back to KitKat, root and flash a pre-rooted Lollipop ROM

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I think PC Suite doesn't check if you're rooted (AFAIK, don't quote me on this one) but DON'T UPDATE WHILE ROOTED some.people have had bootloops and other issues after updating. Go back to KitKat, root and flash a pre-rooted Lollipop ROM
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Thanks for the warning. I have been searching for a rooted Stock ROM but all of the ones that I have found have 'issues' where things don't work.

Whenever I try to do anything with PC Suite, it pops up a dialog saying "Cannot check update unavailability [sic]"
Has anyone else had that problem?

tilda said:
Thanks for the warning. I have been searching for a rooted Stock ROM but all of the ones that I have found have 'issues' where things don't work.
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best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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tilda said:
Whenever I try to do anything with PC Suite, it pops up a dialog saying "Cannot check update unavailability [sic]"
Has anyone else had that problem?
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?

GuyInTheCorner said:
best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?
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Yes, it is allowed through the firewall. I'll try on another machine.
I may also give ChupaChups a go if it is compatible with my D855. Thanks for the recommendation.

tilda said:
Yes, it is allowed through the firewall. I'll try on another machine.
I may also give ChupaChups a go if it is compatible with my D855. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I've tried a different machine connected to a different network and not only do I get this error message but when I ask PC Suite to see if there is an updated version of the PC Suite software, it complains that it isn't connected to the internet on both machines.
Does anybody have a link to a version of the software which is known to work?

GuyInTheCorner said:
best thing to do is wait, to be honest. Lollipop has only just started to roll out to most markets, so devs haven't realistically had much time to work their magic.
ChupaChups is a decent ROM (although I think it's for the international D855 only) and is based on 5.0, so try that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
Also it's based on 20D which is fairly recent (my D855 only just got the 20E update)
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nope. Have you allowed it through a firewall?
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tilda said:
I've tried a different machine connected to a different network and not only do I get this error message but when I ask PC Suite to see if there is an updated version of the PC Suite software, it complains that it isn't connected to the internet on both machines.
Does anybody have a link to a version of the software which is known to work?
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If nobody can help with this, is there an easy way to remove the rooted flag?

Hey guys, im jumping on this thread as im in the same boat with OP, im on stock rooted kitkat and just got the OTA update but id rather keep root so our only option here is a custom ROM i suppose?
Couple of questions here... Do we need a customer recovery? If yes which one?
And, is AndroidNow HD or ChupChups the best lolipop rom?
Thanks guys and thanks OP for creating this thread

This worked for me!
GO to this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-unroot-ota-using-lg-pc-suite-pc-t2802286
You will find your answer there.
tilda said:
I used Purple Drake some time ago to root my device but I'd now like lollipop and would rather get that without wiping device (which I think is necessary for a custom ROM install).
First time I tried the OTA, it came up saying that it suspected rooting so wouldn't install. I unrooted but it still didn't work.
Following another thread on here, I tried to use LG PC Suite to fix the issue but I can't get PC suite to fix the problem.
So, can you help me?
I'd be happy with stock OTA lollipop (understanding that I'll lose root, possible permanently) if someone can work out how to get past the root check on the update (I don't have root anymore but it thinks that I might have)
I'd be happy with a custom ROM based on stock, if I didn't have to do a full wipe.
Any helpers?
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hello,
use LG mobile support tool and additional function go in the upgrade error recovery, it does not delete the data, it returns the file system in place, I made this method because I what worries
sorry for my bad english

Spookymulder62 said:
hello,
use LG mobile support tool and additional function go in the upgrade error recovery, it does not delete the data, it returns the file system in place, I made this method because I what worries
sorry for my bad english
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So trying to update doesn't work and keeps your phone as it was before?
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app

26A

Just got updated to 26A this morning, but haven't bothered to check to see what the "improvements" are.

Same here
Sent from my VS986 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Verizon LG G4 software site
Software Version: VS98626A
The current software update gives you the most up to date Android™ security patch on your device.
Going from 25A to 26A was 37.3 MB. It increased Security Patch Level to 2016-06-01. No version jump. No new apps or apparent changes.

HPloco said:
Verizon LG G4 software site
Software Version: VS98626A
The current software update gives you the most up to date Android™ security patch on your device.
Going from 25A to 26A was 37.3 MB. It increased Security Patch Level to 2016-06-01. No version jump. No new apps or apparent changes.
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I'm a little behind on information. Does the 26a stop me from downgrading to 13b with LGUP? I was rooted by using the LGUP to downgrade but recently went back to stock with the lg flash tool. I may decide to go back to rooted if it permits.
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HPloco said:
Verizon LG G4 software site
Software Version: VS98626A
The current software update gives you the most up to date Android™ security patch on your device.
Going from 25A to 26A was 37.3 MB. It increased Security Patch Level to 2016-06-01. No version jump. No new apps or apparent changes.
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I'm a little behind on information. Does the 26a stop me from downgrading to 13b with LGUP? I was rooted by using the LGUP to downgrade but recently went back to stock with the lg flash tool. I may decide to go back to rooted if it permits.

phonepie said:
I'm a little behind on information. Does the 26a stop me from downgrading to 13b with LGUP? I was rooted by using the LGUP to downgrade but recently went back to stock with the lg flash tool. I may decide to go back to rooted if it permits.
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I'm a little behind on information. Does the 26a stop me from downgrading to 13b with LGUP? I was rooted by using the LGUP to downgrade but recently went back to stock with the lg flash tool. I may decide to go back to rooted if it permits.
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I took the 26a OTA after getting my phone back from LG with a new main-board. Last night I decided to downgrade to 13b kdz and did not encounter any issues. I have already flashed rootedsystem img and everything works like a charm.

Martin4XDA said:
I took the 26a OTA after getting my phone back from LG with a new main-board. Last night I decided to downgrade to 13b kdz and did not encounter any issues. I have already flashed rootedsystem img and everything works like a charm.
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Thanks for the info and reassurance!

phonepie said:
Thanks for the info and reassurance!
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Welcome!

The "security update" broke my wifi calling. I've tried rebooting, turning it off and on, turning wifi off and on... no luck... and of course i applied this update while visiting my family where cell reception is awful.

Does anyone know the LG download link to the 26A KDZ? I flashed the 25A kdz and it shows as Modified even after a Recovery Menu reset...connectivity and battery drain major issues also...

Did you find a link?
Hi, Bro, did you find a link for the download yet!? I am looking for the kdz files as well!!!

Looking for kdz as well, thanks.

Quote from Martin -"I took the 26a OTA after getting my phone back from LG with a new main-board. Last night I decided to downgrade to 13b kdz and did not encounter any issues. I have already flashed rootedsystem img and everything works like a charm."
Thanks for the info, I am in exactly the same situation getting a 25a phone with new board back from LG, now getting prompted every day for 26a and didn't want to lock myself out of a downgrade, not that I am going to do it at the moment.

helloworld25234 said:
Quote from Martin -"I took the 26a OTA after getting my phone back from LG with a new main-board. Last night I decided to downgrade to 13b kdz and did not encounter any issues. I have already flashed rootedsystem img and everything works like a charm."
Thanks for the info, I am in exactly the same situation getting a 25a phone with new board back from LG, now getting prompted every day for 26a and didn't want to lock myself out of a downgrade, not that I am going to do it at the moment.
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No problem!

Martin4XDA said:
I took the 26a OTA after getting my phone back from LG with a new main-board. Last night I decided to downgrade to 13b kdz and did not encounter any issues. I have already flashed rootedsystem img and everything works like a charm.
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Hey Martin, would you mind sharing which method you used to downgrade and root? I've rooted phones in the past but the g4's process is a little foreign to me. Thanks a ton.

Spencer Y said:
Hey Martin, would you mind sharing which method you used to downgrade and root? I've rooted phones in the past but the g4's process is a little foreign to me. Thanks a ton.
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I used LGUP first to downgrade from 26a to 13b kdz which is the original system ROM. I used the "Refurbish" method which completely erases everything before flashing the KDZ.
Once 13b KDZ was flashed I used the LG Root to flash the rootedsystem .img.
I can't post any links here yet but if you do a quick search on this forum you will find detailed instructions on how to proceed and all the necessary files you want to download. It's really not that difficult, just make sure you read and understand what you're gonna do so as to minimize any chance for mistakes.
Happy flashing!

Bro, did you find the kdz for 26A???

Javier Bracho said:
Bro, did you find the kdz for 26A???
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68336210&postcount=5

Thanx
Thanks a lot, bro!!! Downloading it now!

Downgrading 6.0.1 to 5.1.1

Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks

@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?

djisback said:
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
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I bought the phone already with 6.0.1 on it and read that you cannot unlock/ root it with mm on it and can only be done after downgrading to 5.1.1 so I haven't done anything yet

I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?

tjmethod said:
Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
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sudermatt said:
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
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Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.

quinciebee said:
Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?

tjmethod said:
Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.

quinciebee said:
It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?

tjmethod said:
I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.

quinciebee said:
I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-

tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.

ziggy71 said:
You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
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Thanks bro I don't if I'll have time til this weekend to do this- Does this rom have tweaks to fix the aggravating galaxy lag? With a non rooted phone there's goin into recovery and deleting cache, DU speed and phone booster, cleaned but it's like they all have it- thanks again- lookin forward to rooting this damn thing

tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.

kevintm78 said:
Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ

tjmethod said:
Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.

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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-

tjmethod said:
Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.

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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!

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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.

kevintm78 said:
Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Oh man that sucks- hopefully they gave you some good pain meds. Anyway, I havent taken th plunge yet- once I get on to 5.1.1 then twrp, I want to go on to 6.0.1 but am unsure as to what point the bootloader is unlocked or exactly what to do to upgrade to 6.0.1 once I crack the bl. I just dont want to go through the dreaded set up everything twice.

RETUS Nougat Firmware Package?

I've been searching high and low for a full nougat firmware package for the RETUS model... and i cant find one. Has anyone else found one?
I know there are OTAs out there, I'm looking for an FXZ that can be used with fastboot.
filefactory, mirrors.lolinet, etc... seem to have most 7.0 firmware packages EXCEPT for RETUS which only have 6.0 packages.

I have not seen a release for RETUS as of yet... did you not make a nandroid of your original stock before you started flashing...?
If not, flash the 6.0 and the updates found here on XDA.

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I have not seen a release for RETUS as of yet... did you not make a nandroid of your original stock before you started flashing...?
If not, flash the 6.0 and the updates found here on XDA.
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I haven't unlocked or flashed anything yet... I wanted to try and find an up to date firmware package to have on hand before I start flashing anything.
Do you know if there would be an issue with using the latest 7.0 RETAIL firmware package on my RETUS device?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
I'm still trying to wade through all these posts about firmware packages and the lost imei issues.

FanDroid09 said:
I haven't unlocked or flashed anything yet... I wanted to try and find an up to date firmware package to have on hand before I start flashing anything.
Do you know if there would be an issue with using the latest 7.0 RETAIL firmware package on my RETUS device?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
I'm still trying to wade through all these posts about firmware packages and the lost imei issues.
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Sorry to bump this thread, but I tried to root my 7.0 retus yesterday and it is now bootlooping and not working pretty much at all. I am having the same problem with being unable to find stock 7.0 retus fastboot firmware. Did you ever find a solution? Did you just install the retail version, or did you find a fastboot file?

chris23445 said:
Sorry to bump this thread, but I tried to root my 7.0 retus yesterday and it is now bootlooping and not working pretty much at all. I am having the same problem with being unable to find stock 7.0 retus fastboot firmware. Did you ever find a solution? Did you just install the retail version, or did you find a fastboot file?
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What did you do to root? Unlock bootloader then what?

chris23445 said:
Sorry to bump this thread, but I tried to root my 7.0 retus yesterday and it is now bootlooping and not working pretty much at all. I am having the same problem with being unable to find stock 7.0 retus fastboot firmware. Did you ever find a solution? Did you just install the retail version, or did you find a fastboot file?
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Unfortunately I was never able to find a Retus firmware package. However I did flash the Retail firmware package from this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/downgrade-7-1-1-soak-test-to-7-0-t3646807
If you follow that guide you should be fine. Worked good for me.
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Nice I See Stars avatar. :good:
Listened to New Demons on repeat when it came out back in the day haha.

EspElement said:
What did you do to root? Unlock bootloader then what?
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So I am on Retus and upgraded to April patch. Then I unlocked bootloader (successfully), flashed newest TWRP (successfully), flashed the f2fs patch kernel for 7.0 (successfully), then finally Magisk's newest stable (successfully). Phone booted up fine. I went into settings and tried to factory reset, and when the phone rebooted it went to recovery and then now it just doesn't ever boot. It just bootloops. No idea why that is happening.
I found a thread that has steps to downgrade to MM (without flashing bootloader or modem or things that would possibly hard brick) and then after the downgrade I can sideload the Nougat update.
I've seen a lot of people saying if you downgrade after April patch you may hard brick your device, which I am definitely trying to avoid. So if you have any other ideas or if you think what I'm doing is fine, any advice is appreciated!
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FanDroid09 said:
Unfortunately I was never able to find a Retus firmware package. However I did flash the Retail firmware package from this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/downgrade-7-1-1-soak-test-to-7-0-t3646807
If you follow that guide you should be fine. Worked good for me.
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Nice I See Stars avatar. :good:
Listened to New Demons on repeat when it came out back in the day haha.
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I might try that instead of taking the risk of downgrading. This seems to be much better. Do you know if I would still get OTAs going this route?
Nice!! Never found anyone else on here that likes that music. I've seen them live and met them twice, they are amazing.

Does anyone know where to get the latest either RETAIL or RETUS stock firmware with the May 1st security update? NPN25.137-24.4

chris23445 said:
So I am on Retus and upgraded to April patch. Then I unlocked bootloader (successfully), flashed newest TWRP (successfully), flashed the f2fs patch kernel for 7.0 (successfully), then finally Magisk's newest stable (successfully). Phone booted up fine. I went into settings and tried to factory reset, and when the phone rebooted it went to recovery and then now it just doesn't ever boot. It just bootloops. No idea why that is happening.
I found a thread that has steps to downgrade to MM (without flashing bootloader or modem or things that would possibly hard brick) and then after the downgrade I can sideload the Nougat update.
I've seen a lot of people saying if you downgrade after April patch you may hard brick your device, which I am definitely trying to avoid. So if you have any other ideas or if you think what I'm doing is fine, any advice is appreciated!
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I might try that instead of taking the risk of downgrading. This seems to be much better. Do you know if I would still get OTAs going this route?
Nice!! Never found anyone else on here that likes that music. I've seen them live and met them twice, they are amazing.
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Do not side load android N!! You will brick.
Do as the person said here. Flash the N from the forms without .gpt and bootloader

EspElement said:
Do not side load android N!! You will brick.
Do as the person said here. Flash the N from the forms without .gpt and bootloader
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Yep, I did exactly as that thread said and everything has been working great so far! Thank you both for the help, it is greatly appreciated. I was up until almost 3 AM last night trying to fix it.

chris23445 said:
Yep, I did exactly as that thread said and everything has been working great so far! Thank you both for the help, it is greatly appreciated. I was up until almost 3 AM last night trying to fix it.
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Is it worth after all?

chris23445 said:
Yep, I did exactly as that thread said and everything has been working great so far! Thank you both for the help, it is greatly appreciated. I was up until almost 3 AM last night trying to fix it.
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I've been there done that that's for sure. I just bricked one of my Moto Z plays last week doing what you were about to do.

StOP!!!! If you are on Custom firmware above 6, for the love of everything holy and merciful DO NOT downgrade so you can get the OTA. Some of us have and we are waiting for blankflash files that don't even exist yet.

tpx00 said:
StOP!!!! If you are on Custom firmware above 6, for the love of everything holy and merciful DO NOT downgrade so you can get the OTA. Some of us have and we are waiting for blankflash files that don't even exist yet.
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He stopped and is all good! I am with you. Got a dead Moto Z Play. My new one from eBay is coming today. Sigh

EspElement said:
He stopped and is all good! I am with you. Got a dead Moto Z Play. My new one from eBay is coming today. Sigh
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Ya I'm about to go pick up a nexus 6 from craigslist until mine comes back from Motorola.