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Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
Vic35 said:
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
Your bootloader is locked. It's impossible to root atm.
azzicles said:
Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
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all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
Vic35 said:
all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
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Again, your bootloader is locked. So the simple answer is no.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 7.
in simple words, the bootloader is like the main gate to the internals of your phone, if locked, as on snpadragon based note 7, it is very, very difficult to root, the exynos note 7 are all open, there is at the moment only one method to root a snapdragon note 7, but I think it works only for AT&T
sucks and my 14 day return period is over ... now what
Now you learn the lesson... Never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a phone until you have verified it can be rooted. There had been an exploit for root with the SDs but Samsung fixed it in the replacement devices. You will hear people telling you root might still be attained and they are right but don't pin any hope on it.
Most people have been where you are and I number among them. The only thing you can do is sell the device, hope for root, learn your lesson. I'm sorry.
One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
3 minit battery, Viper4android and titanium backup are what I'm missing. ????
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One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. Even on my Note 5 I saw no need to root. I was able to debloat carrier apps( Package Disabler Pro), use hotspot( FoxFi and PdaNet combo), change themes and icons( Samsung Theme Store) and much more, Plus, if you do decide to root, you can kiss Samsung or Android Pay goodbye. I also saw some had issues with the Iris Scanner after rooting as well. I personally love the fact that whatever feature I want to use on my phone I can do so with no FCs or trial and error. Custom Roms are based on the Devs likes and dislikes so what you think is a cool feature or function the Dev of whatever rom you are on may think its not and remove it. Once that happens, its more than just adding an .apk to priv-app or system apps, changing permissions and rebooting. It's more involved. This world is light years ahead of an IPhone jailbreak. No disrespect but a 70 year old woman can jailbreak an IPhone. LoL. Op read up on the benefits of root and what you think you need it for. You may be able to get the best of both worlds and still enjoy all the features and functionality the Note 7 has to offer. Samsung has done an excellent job coming into the times as far as root is concerned. They are making it so we don't have to root and can enjoy the benefits and features of these insanely expensive devices. I suggest you use the phone for a bit to its full potential and if you still think you need root then go for it but I'm almost certain you will realize you won't need it. Ultimately, its up to you.
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. .
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
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I use Adguard to remove ads globally from my phone and it works better, to me anyways, than Adaway or anything equivalent but this is just my usage. Everyone's MMV. As far as using the power of root, I was one of the biggest believers in root. However, I was tired of the trial and error associated with it while running other Custom Roms( notice I keep saying I as this is just my experience). There is nothing more frustrating than going to use a feature and get a FC because either it was removed or the files associated with it were removed. Then you have to go into the archives of a stock rom and try to restore what was deleted and hope it works. At one point I just ran a fully stock rom with root and that worked for me but we both know how useless that is when you're rooted. At the end of my post I suggested to the Op, since he is new to Android, to use Android without it for a bit and see how he fares. If he still finds root is necessary than go for it. I would never tell anyone what to do with their device but you and I both know that root is becoming more of a hassle these days because of all the added security. As a newbie, this can scare the crap out of someone but ultimately it is the Op's decision.
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Vic35 said:
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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I don't play Pokemon Go. I also didn't know you needed root to play that game. I thought it was merely an app.
Vic35 said:
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
Braca Ganon said:
Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
I'm
Vic35 said:
I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
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Yeah I read up on the newest hacks... it seems there's apps that don't require jailbreak but I don't know of any Android apps.. keep searching google. Someone will come up with an android hack before long... the first big hack was an android app
They will absolutely release a hack app for Android... just keep searching google
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
Mibuix0r said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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That only works on pre-recall PH1 Note 7's, you can't root the new Note 7's with PHE.
I have been finding myself only using Magisk for EmojiOne, but noticing I don't use Emoji like I used to anymore and am thinking since I only use Substratum with a Center Clock mod and have stopped using it for Dark theming, maybe going back to a stock based setup would be fine. I can use the Andromeda thing with Substratum which is an extra step but can do my center clock and possibly emoji one via substratum... not sure what else I would want root for... Updating is a touch of a pain for me. What do yo guys think, and have any of you gone back to stock?
I went back to stock just because I didn't want to have the uncertainty of being rooted.
Nothing wrong with rooting but I love this phone the way it is.
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For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
What was the question?
kdkinc said:
For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
What was the question?
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Lol, I agree 100%. I can simply disable gMail and Calculator, the only 2 APPs pre-installed on my Pixel 2 XL that I don't need. I use Inbox by Google for eMails and a Calculator Widget for that. Aside from the EmojiOne and CenterClock, I don't even dark-theme anymore, especially not on this device with the "black crush" all the OLEDs have an issue with. I was rooted fro KCal, but am finding the Boosted setting works just fine and oddly my Blue Tint has weakened since my first few days where it was really bad. Almost like the display is wearing in and getting better? It's still there, but just not as much as that first fresh opening, so warming up the display isn't needed much for me now either.
I like to see where people's heads are at with each device, and this is one the extra input is nice to read.
I'm actually on the fence about rooting. Just received my phone this weekend and I can't decide. Going to unlock bootloader before fully setting up, but I have been playing with it a little. I've always rooted and ran custom ROMs as well as adaway. With PureNexus on my N6 I stopped flashing for over a year except the occasional ROM update. I simply like Android in it's simplest form.
I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
I used to have it for years, then more and more companies (Google and banks) made their apps check for root, and I tired of the cat and mouse game with SuperSU and Magisk. So I unrooted over a year ago. Didn't miss it at all until yesterday, when I wanted to do something with Tasker that requires root. But what I wanted to do falls into the category of "it would be nice" as opposed to "I have/need to do this", so I remain unrooted. I haven't really missed it much.
I am stuck without root since I have the Verizon model which was given to me free from work so I cannot complain too much. I have always rooted and messed with ROMs. The only thing I would need root for with the 2 XL is ad blocking with Chrome. I am trying the Samsung browser and ABP which work pretty well together.
If I didn't have the noise cancellation mic issue on my 6P I think I would have given up root a long time ago...
I rotate between stock and rooted daily lol
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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If you like it the way it is, then I'd just leave it. It's a great device on stock. However, having root, AdAway, TiBu, kernels, and mods, is a lot of fun as well. As long as you know adb and fastboot fairly well, rooting and flashing monthly updates is pretty easy :good:
I was rooted from the get go!!
I'm going to try to live without root for a bit but already hating not having AdAway. I just know I won't keep up with updates if I have to do them. I sure wish AdAway didn't need root
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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I'm not regretting going back to stock from rooted as the only things I no longer have is center clock and emojione, which I 'could' get using Andromeda / Substratum but heard you have to reconnect to the computer anytime you reboot the phone and decided that's just not worth it for me. I am interested in ad blocking if possible without Root for Chrome. Only Ads that get in my way are via "News" and articles I touch from the Google Feed. Sadly many lately are blatant click-bait, page-hopping crap and slideshows that I refuse to go past the first page on.
Edit: Well, just ran across something known as DNS66 and have that up and running without Root and sure enough, it's blocking Ads on everything, even in Chrome without issue.
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I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
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Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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Flash without wiping data.
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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See below. ?
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Flash without wiping data.
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First thing I did with my unlocked XL 2 was to unlock the bootloader. I then rooted once Magisk was available. I root so I can do pain-free full TiBu of my apps and for AdAway. Even though I have corporate email on my phone, the Magisk Hide bypasses their restrictions in the email app.
I'm actually kind of shocked we don't have more ROMs for this phone, though I'm not a Dev and don't know how complex it may be. If more Devs release custom ROMs, I'll be trying some out for sure.
I never buy android phone unless it's bootloader-unlockable and root-able
Too many handicap applied without root.
I hate dns/vpn based adblock, it cluttering my status bar and notification. So, yes, i need root for adaway,
Google limit Tethering frequency option for my country (No 5Ghz) so, yes, i need root to enable it,
I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
I like the ability to use Brevent, Edge Sense Plus, Greenify etc without the need of plugging my phone to PC and do adb command. So, yes, i rooted my phone for that.
The phone will never be 100% yours, unless you have total control over anything inside it
So,
There's no way am back to stock. Especially with xposed working so well right now.
otonieru said:
I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
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Assuming you are using Magisk, how did you get YouTube Red without subscribing? (You can PM me if you don't want to hijack this thread...)
Hey all. So as the title says, I'm new to Android, I've had an iPhone for like 10 years now and fancied a change. Bought the Razer on Monday and was wondering whats the benefits of Rooting the phone? As someone who used to Jailbreak the iPhone for tweaks etc, why should I root my phone? And is there any advice/help for making my phone better out of the box?
My main reason is to block ads, web and YouTube.
Oh by the way welcome to the dark side. Lol
If ads don't bother you i personally wouldn't bother with all the trouble
I root mainly because of xposed/gravity box and ads blocker
waiflih said:
I root mainly because of xposed/gravity box and ads blocker
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Root is not that hard. Go to this post scroll down to "Prebuilt boot image:" download the IMG and flash it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76062554&postcount=1
I use root for several different things.
1) Get rid of Ads
2) Grant extra rights to an app called MacroDroid (This app allows you to fully automate your phone through macros, like setting up a rule that says when the phone connects to my work wi-fi then it automatically will switch to vibrate only. This particular rule does not require root but there are extra functions granted by root that allow you to pretty much create whatever kind of rule you want to suit your life. It's a very powerful app and useful app.)
3) Get access to the true file structure (or root) of the phone allowing you to change undercover things if you know what you are doing.
4) I have another app called Social Contact Photo sync that needs root to match up my phone contacts with their Facebook photos.
5) I have an app called Tiles that allows you to change out and add a few extra buttons to the quick menu in the pulldown tray.
6) This is probably the most important one though, Titanium Backup. This should be the first app you install after getting root. Not only does it back up the apps and things on your phone but it also saves the data within those apps. So any custom settings and whatnot you have made in the apps will be saved. It also has many many more features, such as cloud saves to Dropbox or Google Drive.
Ultimately though the real point of Rooting is to grant you admin access to do whatever you want with it, just the way a PC is. You own it, so make it yours.
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I use root for several different things.
1) Get rid of Ads
2) Grant extra rights to an app called MacroDroid (This app allows you to fully automate your phone through macros, like setting up a rule that says when the phone connects to my work wi-fi then it automatically will switch to vibrate only. This particular rule does not require root but there are extra functions granted by root that allow you to pretty much create whatever kind of rule you want to suit your life. It's a very powerful app and useful app.)
3) Get access to the true file structure (or root) of the phone allowing you to change undercover things if you know what you are doing.
4) I have another app called Social Contact Photo sync that needs root to match up my phone contacts with their Facebook photos.
5) I have an app called Tiles that allows you to change out and add a few extra buttons to the quick menu in the pulldown tray.
6) This is probably the most important one though, Titanium Backup. This should be the first app you install after getting root. Not only does it back up the apps and things on your phone but it also saves the data within those apps. So any custom settings and whatnot you have made in the apps will be saved. It also has many many more features, such as cloud saves to Dropbox or Google Drive.
Ultimately though the real point of Rooting is to grant you admin access to do whatever you want with it, just the way a PC is. You own it, so make it yours.
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Awesome. That's very helpful and sounds like I'll be doing that then! One note, should I force the Oreo update first or leave it?
askylitangel said:
Awesome. That's very helpful and sounds like I'll be doing that then! One note, should I force the Oreo update first or leave it?
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If you wanna try rooting i recommend you to back up your ohone ir sync it with google, then download the factory images of razer,
From here you can flash the factory images of oreo and have your phone factory reset, then from there set up your phone.
Oh to use the factiry images, you need to unlock your bootloader.
IM in the same boat, ive only ever owned iPhones going back to the 3GS the RazerPhone is my 1st Android phone too slowely getting use to it however the only problems i have is with lack of secuirty and OS updates that we are use to on Apple devices
iliais347 said:
If you wanna try rooting i recommend you to back up your ohone ir sync it with google, then download the factory images of razer,
From here you can flash the factory images of oreo and have your phone factory reset, then from there set up your phone.
Oh to use the factiry images, you need to unlock your bootloader.
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So how do I go about doing that?
There's always a guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/how-to/guide-to-unlocking-bootloader-t3706462
Please be aware that unlocking your phone will delete all data so backup pictures etc
SeriousFlash said:
There's always a guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/how-to/guide-to-unlocking-bootloader-t3706462
Please be aware that unlocking your phone will delete all data so backup pictures etc
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So is it worth waiting on 3 to push the Oreo update? (I'm from UK) or should I unlock the bootloader and force the update?
If you want to root your phone just go for the unlocking and debranding your phone to get Oreo and the easy root.
If you don't want to root then wait for three I would say since Oreo doesn't bring too much new stuff besides autofill in apps and better Dolby Atmos
The guides are all pretty straight forward and if something goes wrong you can always flash the recovery images
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If you want to root your phone just go for the unlocking and debranding your phone to get Oreo and the easy root.
If you don't want to root then wait for three I would say since Oreo doesn't bring too much new stuff besides autofill in apps and better Dolby Atmos
The guides are all pretty straight forward and if something goes wrong you can always flash the recovery images
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Awesome. Thank you so much! If I get lost you're the first person I'll ask for help aha
I should probs ask. But once it's rooted what do I do next? Like to block ads etc
Block Ads without a constantly running process by modifying the HOSTS file, OS Tweaks (L Speed, HEBF Optimizer, ect.), Better Customization (Substratum), more features you can use, Hack games with Game Gaurdian (Useful in games like City Racing 3D where you can hack the IAPs to get them free, because $100 for one car is too expensive), Bypass regional or device restrictions on the Play Store by spoofing a different devices specs.... and for my favorite root ability, ViPER Audio (Nothing sounds as near as good, not even Dolby Atmos)!
The list goes on and on... I love root. Most devices I use I root. However rooting voids your warranty. Also some devices have better development and are more stable, the Razer Phone is still new so it may be a while longer before we have more ROM options with root.
There are two types of root. System and Systemless (Recommended, especially for new users since a factory reset will often undo changes you made that may of bricked your phone when something went wrong)
FanboyStudios said:
Block Ads without a constantly running process by modifying the HOSTS file, OS Tweaks (L Speed, HEBF Optimizer, ect.), Better Customization (Substratum), more features you can use, Hack games with Game Gaurdian (Useful in games like City Racing 3D where you can hack the IAPs to get them free, because $100 for one car is too expensive), Bypass regional or device restrictions on the Play Store by spoofing a different devices specs.... and for my favorite root ability, ViPER Audio (Nothing sounds as near as good, not even Dolby Atmos)!
The list goes on and on... I love root. Most devices I use I root. However rooting voids your warranty. Also some devices have better development and are more stable, the Razer Phone is still new so it may be a while longer before we have more ROM options with root.
There are two types of root. System and Systemless (Recommended, especially for new users since a factory reset will often undo changes you made that may of bricked your phone when something went wrong)
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That sounds amazing tbh. Is there a tutorial for the systemless? And how would one go about installing the "add-ons" so to speak?
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That sounds amazing tbh. Is there a tutorial for the systemless? And how would one go about installing the "add-ons" so to speak?
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Personally I would wait until there's more development and things are more stable... but if you so ask...
First you should get TWRP. https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/development/twrp-razer-phone-t3727333 After installing, back everything up to your microSD card. Then you need to install Magisk (This is the systemless root, I usually myself don't use systemless root and I prefer system root as I'm more careful and I want some of my changes to stay even after a factory reset). After that, you may get Magisk modules which add functionality and use some root apps.
Just a quick note, it does seem like there are some minor bugs with the Oreo update on the Razer.
Me and my gf have matching razers and both our phones have stopped syncing voicemails to our dialer and our dialers keep crashing.
We have also had a problem with the phone becoming entirely unresponsive even to force power off and after about 5 minutes the OS would crash and reboot then it would be fine.
This all seems to be a bug within Oreo, the only other phone to ahve the update seems to be the Pixel phones and they seem to be reporting similar issues.
I never had these issues prior to the update and we have both had these phones since day one (very awesome phone by the way regardless of the issues).
I've had my Pixel 2 XL for 2 weeks now and am very impressed with all of the customizations. Quick question: is it worth it to root it? My bootloader is unlocked, BTW. What are some additional benefits it I choose to root it?
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I've had my Pixel 2 XL for 2 weeks now and am very impressed with all of the customizations. Quick question: is it worth it to root it? My bootloader is unlocked, BTW. What are some additional benefits it I choose to root it?
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The "worth it" part is up to you. What is it you want to achieve? If you want to....
Flash custom roms and kernels..
Use add blocking and themes..
Install sound mods...
Or just customize the crap outa it.....then yes.
However, a word of caution, do your research into flashing procedures, and become very familiar with fastboot just in case something goes wrong, and you need to recover your device.
Also, if you use certain banking apps, they may not work if your rooted. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask. There are bunches of helpful people on XDA that are happy to help you. :good:
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The "worth it" part is up to you. What is it you want to achieve? If you want to....
Flash custom roms and kernels..
Use add blocking and themes..
Install sound mods...
Or just customize the crap outa it.....then yes.
However, a word of caution, do your research into flashing procedures, and become very familiar with fastboot just in case something goes wrong, and you need to recover your device.
Also, if you use certain banking apps, they may not work if your rooted. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask. There are bunches of helpful people on XDA that are happy to help you. :good:
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Thanks for the advice and info Badger50. I think I'll do as you recommend and research it for awhile.
Also insurance apps detect root also and some games
Magisk is a great app for hiding root from these apps most of the time.
If you want to keep up to date on the monthly Google updates it can be a bit of a pain as you have to replace your boot image and kernel and even then can have issues with the way pixel handles the rom.
But with that said it's good to at least do it learn a bit about what goes into it see if it is good for you.
Good to have a backup phone and or know your restore procedures.
Pretty hard to brick a phone with the pixel phones.
Just have to follow some steps exactly the way they tell you.
I stay stock now because of the updates some times it takes me a day to get time to fix the phone to accept the update and work properly and I like having accu battery have history from start of the phone
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Without a doubt, hands down, currently I need Root. If the device has no solution then it's the last one I would pick. Currently I'm running Havoc with Magisk 18. I have the viper/Dolby sound benefits with my favorite Sony features & apps. Also I'm running lawnchair w/ quickswitch module. All in all I guess you could say I have a problem. Every since I learned I could update to KitKat instead of being stuck on stock gingerbread I've been rooting. Thanks:good:
If you have a warranty (sounds like you bought it used) or you have have insurance they will be void if you are unable to restore to stock.
That's why I don't root.
Just something to be aware of.
One of the best and ultimate reasons to root is to be able to take a nandroid backup that's better than any non-rooted backup method! It will literally backup and remember everything (due to all of this residing in the /data partition)! Your homescreen, settings, app and its data,down to every little thing!
Being able to move the clock back to the right, modify so it's better on battery life and cpu quickness, enjoy extra features in apps, and many other "tweaks" are secondary but very enjoyable and satisfactory...
it's an interesting question to me, because this is the first phone that I have decided not to bother rooting. It is also my first pixel/Nexus which I think is part of the reason. In the past getting rid of bloat and many of the controlling aspects from carriers was important to me. With the pixel, there is very little of that. Plus it just works, I'm not working around issues.
maybe I'm getting old, but to me the phone is now something I want to use not something I want to play with. When I root the phone, I have to keep up with security updates and I'm usually also fixing and patching things from trying different mods. So far the pure Android experience from Google has proven reasonably reliable and stable, and it just doesn't seem worth the hassle anymore. I will continue to buy phones I can root, how's that may change at some point.
Right now, my opinion is, for me, there is no need to root
I haven't unlocked my bootloader or rooted since the first pixel. I use adguard premium and YouTube vanced. Currently, absolutely no need for root anymore. Just my two cents.
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One of the best and ultimate reasons to root is to be able to take a nandroid backup that's better than any non-rooted backup method! It will literally backup and remember everything (due to all of this residing in the /data partition)! Your homescreen, settings, app and its data,down to every little thing!
Being able to move the clock back to the right, modify so it's better on battery life and cpu quickness, enjoy extra features in apps, and many other "tweaks" are secondary but very enjoyable and satisfactory...
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Everything related to apps and app data. Anything on the internal sdcard, not so much.
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Hello everyone,
So is rooting Worth it or should i wait for a while?
Not nearly as important today as years ago when OEM firmware was buggy, laggy and without many features. Nowadays, most of the features we used to root our roms for are built in to stock roms and with as much ram as we have in phones, lagginess no longer seems to be much of an issue.
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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You don't get ads if you opt out of them during setup.
dns.adguard.com
put this as dns in wireless setting.
Currently I have two reasons to flash
To access auxiliary cameras in gcam we need root
And also to use substratum themes we need root.
But since there is no straight way of rooting as in no official twrp support for now ..I will do it later . I can probably do without the above two things
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I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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adgaurd is doing good for me so far
Here I briefly provided the device with root, this to restore my apps via swift backup. Then flashed full OTA and back on original boot.img.
I have had root for a while but have not used it a lot, if you want to remove system / apps or something it will not work, thank you Google for this. As long as it is not possible to mount, root is useless for me.
Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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Personally I don't feel it's worth it, given the potential of creating other problems, having to fix boot loops, and generally falling into a rabbit hole vortex which has nothing to do with the everyday life in front of me ?
In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
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Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
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That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
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I agree with everything you said. But it's mostly not about making tweaks to get better performance nowadays.
For me, the biggest reason I root is because of Viper4android.
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Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control?
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Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control
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Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
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Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
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The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
^^ How do I back up application ________'s data? I don't update apps daily/weekly, usually quarterly or less. Will take a backup (titaniumbackup) first before doing updating so I can revert back if there issues.
Google backup still is not 100% reliable. How else can the above be done on an unrooted device?
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The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
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"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
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"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
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The dark theme you are talking about man doesnt compare to what swift installer or substratum can achieve at the moment. There is a reason why we are still using these apps even when windows 10 has a dark mode. You might be comfortable with it but some of us are not. I like my phone fully black with a proper adblock , viper4arise to make my earphones sound even better, now i have instagram mod called instaperfs can download pics from the gram. The amount of stuff i can achieve with root a lot. So yeah rooting is still way worth it. Banking apps just need to be hidden in magisk and you are good to go
Adaway is a long time fav