Hey all. So as the title says, I'm new to Android, I've had an iPhone for like 10 years now and fancied a change. Bought the Razer on Monday and was wondering whats the benefits of Rooting the phone? As someone who used to Jailbreak the iPhone for tweaks etc, why should I root my phone? And is there any advice/help for making my phone better out of the box?
My main reason is to block ads, web and YouTube.
Oh by the way welcome to the dark side. Lol
If ads don't bother you i personally wouldn't bother with all the trouble
I root mainly because of xposed/gravity box and ads blocker
waiflih said:
I root mainly because of xposed/gravity box and ads blocker
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What's that?
Root is not that hard. Go to this post scroll down to "Prebuilt boot image:" download the IMG and flash it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76062554&postcount=1
I use root for several different things.
1) Get rid of Ads
2) Grant extra rights to an app called MacroDroid (This app allows you to fully automate your phone through macros, like setting up a rule that says when the phone connects to my work wi-fi then it automatically will switch to vibrate only. This particular rule does not require root but there are extra functions granted by root that allow you to pretty much create whatever kind of rule you want to suit your life. It's a very powerful app and useful app.)
3) Get access to the true file structure (or root) of the phone allowing you to change undercover things if you know what you are doing.
4) I have another app called Social Contact Photo sync that needs root to match up my phone contacts with their Facebook photos.
5) I have an app called Tiles that allows you to change out and add a few extra buttons to the quick menu in the pulldown tray.
6) This is probably the most important one though, Titanium Backup. This should be the first app you install after getting root. Not only does it back up the apps and things on your phone but it also saves the data within those apps. So any custom settings and whatnot you have made in the apps will be saved. It also has many many more features, such as cloud saves to Dropbox or Google Drive.
Ultimately though the real point of Rooting is to grant you admin access to do whatever you want with it, just the way a PC is. You own it, so make it yours.
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I use root for several different things.
1) Get rid of Ads
2) Grant extra rights to an app called MacroDroid (This app allows you to fully automate your phone through macros, like setting up a rule that says when the phone connects to my work wi-fi then it automatically will switch to vibrate only. This particular rule does not require root but there are extra functions granted by root that allow you to pretty much create whatever kind of rule you want to suit your life. It's a very powerful app and useful app.)
3) Get access to the true file structure (or root) of the phone allowing you to change undercover things if you know what you are doing.
4) I have another app called Social Contact Photo sync that needs root to match up my phone contacts with their Facebook photos.
5) I have an app called Tiles that allows you to change out and add a few extra buttons to the quick menu in the pulldown tray.
6) This is probably the most important one though, Titanium Backup. This should be the first app you install after getting root. Not only does it back up the apps and things on your phone but it also saves the data within those apps. So any custom settings and whatnot you have made in the apps will be saved. It also has many many more features, such as cloud saves to Dropbox or Google Drive.
Ultimately though the real point of Rooting is to grant you admin access to do whatever you want with it, just the way a PC is. You own it, so make it yours.
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Awesome. That's very helpful and sounds like I'll be doing that then! One note, should I force the Oreo update first or leave it?
askylitangel said:
Awesome. That's very helpful and sounds like I'll be doing that then! One note, should I force the Oreo update first or leave it?
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If you wanna try rooting i recommend you to back up your ohone ir sync it with google, then download the factory images of razer,
From here you can flash the factory images of oreo and have your phone factory reset, then from there set up your phone.
Oh to use the factiry images, you need to unlock your bootloader.
IM in the same boat, ive only ever owned iPhones going back to the 3GS the RazerPhone is my 1st Android phone too slowely getting use to it however the only problems i have is with lack of secuirty and OS updates that we are use to on Apple devices
iliais347 said:
If you wanna try rooting i recommend you to back up your ohone ir sync it with google, then download the factory images of razer,
From here you can flash the factory images of oreo and have your phone factory reset, then from there set up your phone.
Oh to use the factiry images, you need to unlock your bootloader.
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So how do I go about doing that?
There's always a guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/how-to/guide-to-unlocking-bootloader-t3706462
Please be aware that unlocking your phone will delete all data so backup pictures etc
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There's always a guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/how-to/guide-to-unlocking-bootloader-t3706462
Please be aware that unlocking your phone will delete all data so backup pictures etc
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So is it worth waiting on 3 to push the Oreo update? (I'm from UK) or should I unlock the bootloader and force the update?
If you want to root your phone just go for the unlocking and debranding your phone to get Oreo and the easy root.
If you don't want to root then wait for three I would say since Oreo doesn't bring too much new stuff besides autofill in apps and better Dolby Atmos
The guides are all pretty straight forward and if something goes wrong you can always flash the recovery images
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If you want to root your phone just go for the unlocking and debranding your phone to get Oreo and the easy root.
If you don't want to root then wait for three I would say since Oreo doesn't bring too much new stuff besides autofill in apps and better Dolby Atmos
The guides are all pretty straight forward and if something goes wrong you can always flash the recovery images
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Awesome. Thank you so much! If I get lost you're the first person I'll ask for help aha
I should probs ask. But once it's rooted what do I do next? Like to block ads etc
Block Ads without a constantly running process by modifying the HOSTS file, OS Tweaks (L Speed, HEBF Optimizer, ect.), Better Customization (Substratum), more features you can use, Hack games with Game Gaurdian (Useful in games like City Racing 3D where you can hack the IAPs to get them free, because $100 for one car is too expensive), Bypass regional or device restrictions on the Play Store by spoofing a different devices specs.... and for my favorite root ability, ViPER Audio (Nothing sounds as near as good, not even Dolby Atmos)!
The list goes on and on... I love root. Most devices I use I root. However rooting voids your warranty. Also some devices have better development and are more stable, the Razer Phone is still new so it may be a while longer before we have more ROM options with root.
There are two types of root. System and Systemless (Recommended, especially for new users since a factory reset will often undo changes you made that may of bricked your phone when something went wrong)
FanboyStudios said:
Block Ads without a constantly running process by modifying the HOSTS file, OS Tweaks (L Speed, HEBF Optimizer, ect.), Better Customization (Substratum), more features you can use, Hack games with Game Gaurdian (Useful in games like City Racing 3D where you can hack the IAPs to get them free, because $100 for one car is too expensive), Bypass regional or device restrictions on the Play Store by spoofing a different devices specs.... and for my favorite root ability, ViPER Audio (Nothing sounds as near as good, not even Dolby Atmos)!
The list goes on and on... I love root. Most devices I use I root. However rooting voids your warranty. Also some devices have better development and are more stable, the Razer Phone is still new so it may be a while longer before we have more ROM options with root.
There are two types of root. System and Systemless (Recommended, especially for new users since a factory reset will often undo changes you made that may of bricked your phone when something went wrong)
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That sounds amazing tbh. Is there a tutorial for the systemless? And how would one go about installing the "add-ons" so to speak?
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That sounds amazing tbh. Is there a tutorial for the systemless? And how would one go about installing the "add-ons" so to speak?
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Personally I would wait until there's more development and things are more stable... but if you so ask...
First you should get TWRP. https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/development/twrp-razer-phone-t3727333 After installing, back everything up to your microSD card. Then you need to install Magisk (This is the systemless root, I usually myself don't use systemless root and I prefer system root as I'm more careful and I want some of my changes to stay even after a factory reset). After that, you may get Magisk modules which add functionality and use some root apps.
Just a quick note, it does seem like there are some minor bugs with the Oreo update on the Razer.
Me and my gf have matching razers and both our phones have stopped syncing voicemails to our dialer and our dialers keep crashing.
We have also had a problem with the phone becoming entirely unresponsive even to force power off and after about 5 minutes the OS would crash and reboot then it would be fine.
This all seems to be a bug within Oreo, the only other phone to ahve the update seems to be the Pixel phones and they seem to be reporting similar issues.
I never had these issues prior to the update and we have both had these phones since day one (very awesome phone by the way regardless of the issues).
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what are the pros & cons of rooting this particular phone?
general question, i am not at all familiar with rooting, I would not mind doing so if there's a noticeable change.
thanks in advance!
Absolutely NOT! Rooting will make your ears produce too much wax and also infertile!
...But if you don't mind that...
Here are some benefits of having root access:
* Titanium Backup requires root access, which gives it the ability to backup and and all applications (including locked, protected and system apps!)
* It also allows Titanium Backup to REMOVE any app! Including system apps (including the bloated crap the carriers install).
* Someone recently posted about an app called 'Ram Manager', which also requires Root. It's a memory management app and so far I think it's working well
* SetCPU, app that allows you to control the CPU frequency. You can create profiles so you can set the min/max speed of the CPU based on conditions (like set the CPU lower when the battery is below 50%)
* Root Explorer, app that let's you browse the contents of storage. As-is you only have read access to certain directories...With Root you have read/write to all directories
So that's a few things off the top of my head.
Namuna said:
Absolutely NOT! Rooting will make your ears produce too much wax and make you infertile!
...But if you don't mind that...
Here are some benefits of having root access:
* Titanium Backup requires root access, which gives it the ability to backup and and all applications (including locked, protected and system apps!)
* It also allows Titanium Backup to REMOVE any app! Including system apps (including the bloated crap the carriers install).
* Someone recently posted about an app called 'Ram Manager', which also requires Root. It's a memory management app and so far I think it's working well
* SetCPU, app that allows you to control the CPU frequency. You can create profiles so you can set the min/max speed of the CPU based on conditions (like set the CPU lower when the battery is below 50%)
* Root Explorer, app that let's you browse the contents of storage. As-is you only have read access to certain directories...With Root you have read/write to all directories
So that's a few things off the top of my head.
So that's just a few things.
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Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?
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Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?
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You're not really voiding the warranty, since you can alway reflash back the stock ROM on the phone that was not rooted yet, and it will be like nothing was ever changed. But for now, we don't have the stock ROM for flashing yet.
Honestly the employees are pretty clueless and don't check for it you probably wouldn't have any issues with warranty even if you did need to return it to AT&T. Just delete the superuser app and they probably can't tell the difference, the phone will head back to the factory to get reflashed and sold as a refurbished unit anyway.
Titanium backup would be the main reason I'd want root. Being able to "freeze" apps rather than uninstalling them completely is a good way to stop rogue apps or bloatware from preventing the phone from sleeping while giving you the option to restore them any time in case you do need them. It's a good way to test which apps are actually needed and which ones are just bloat.
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Appreciated.
it was the ram manager thread that piqued my interest. I went to the app market to get it and noticed it requires root. In checking all that out, I noticed titanium backup also requires it and i was interested in that as well.
So it sounds like there is no real reason NOT to do so, other than voiding the warranty?
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dinan said:
Honestly the employees are pretty clueless and don't check for it you probably wouldn't have any issues with warranty even if you did need to return it to AT&T. Just delete the superuser app and they probably can't tell the difference, the phone will head back to the factory to get reflashed and sold as a refurbished unit anyway.
Titanium backup would be the main reason I'd want root. Being able to "freeze" apps rather than uninstalling them completely is a good way to stop rogue apps or bloatware from preventing the phone from sleeping while giving you the option to restore them any time in case you do need them. It's a good way to test which apps are actually needed and which ones are just bloat.
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Going somewat off topic here, but have u ever tried returning a phone to AT&T with custom ROMs or even CM7 on it? The reason I asked is cuz my Atrix is currently "broken" and I have insisted to AT&T that I want another phone, and they told me that if they determined it's really broken, they are willing to let me get an early upgrade to the Nitro. But I don't want to have to go through the hassle of wiping n restoring the phone to stock. So I'm wondering if they will actually notice that it's not running stock ROM.
Root it.
Before root I had maybe 6 hrs battery life. It would be dead before I even got home from work. That's hardly using it.
Rooted.
SetCPU
NoBLOAT
disabled a lot of bloat and setcpu profiles my battery life went from extremely poor to getting 12 - 15 hrs of medium use. that's talk time, music, browsing, the works. I'm very happy with this phone now.
Rooting was easy just had to hammer it a few times.
Very pleased.
It's very nice coming back to Android. I had to try the iPhone did it for a year. Will never do it again. Especially since I've been a linux user for 10 years.
thanks for the input folks. any more is also appreciated.
anyne reading this who was planning to root your NITRO and changed your mind?
Can't we use the LG support utility to flash back to the stock rom? I have not attempted it yet, but I think I will give it a shot once I have backed up all my applications... If I learn anything interesting I will let you all know.
i wonder when the LG flash will be available.
went to buy voodoo control and see it requires root as well, so that's 3 pretty big programs i want to use but can't atm. i'm thinking i will root this after work today.
was hoping to not have to hassle with it.
another question
just read this:
"Since this app will ask you for root permissions, be sure you obtain it from a legit source.
Pirated software using superuser are dangerous and can potentially brick or destroy your phone"
does superoneclick legitimately access root?
Not much of a hassle... It worked straight away for me once I installed the right drivers (from LG download) and then picked the right option (charge only) that would allow adb to see the phone. After I had both of those - it took about 5-15 minutes to get done.
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I used a different source - Doom Lord's Easy rooting toolkit (v3.0) as it was just a script file that ran. I was able to inspect the script - not that I can tell the executables are all above board, but I can at least see exactly what is going to happen during the process. And it worked perfectly...
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another question
just read this:
"Since this app will ask you for root permissions, be sure you obtain it from a legit source.
Pirated software using superuser are dangerous and can potentially brick or destroy your phone"
does superoneclick legitimately access root?
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I read that as meaning you should obtain the app from a legit source, NOT that you should get root access from a legit source. Considering the number of users that have used and suggest SuperOneClick, I'd say that's a fine/safe rooting process.
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I read that as meaning you should obtain the app from a legit source, NOT that you should get root access from a legit source. Considering the number of users that have used and suggest SuperOneClick, I'd say that's a fine/safe rooting process.
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ahh, gotcha. i read it that way now too, thanks.
rooted. thanks for the input everyone.
Have been advised that this is the best place to get the info I need :good:
Essentially I am thinking of purchasing the above phone purely to use as a music device. I already have the phone I want/am happy with (no msd slot). Hence looking at the above.
Now, being a UK model it will be subject to volume capping so I wanted to root the device, remove any bloatware, and install viper for Android.
Looking around this looks like a viable option, really after the simplest/easiest option to make this happen
The device is already out of warranty - so not worried about that, would also consider removing any other function than music replay, browser and Bluetooth (even phone, contacts, weather etc etc).
This would be a first time root, but I'm relatively tech savvy and have flashed other (ios devices) with jailbreak, rockbox etc so not completely alien to me
Any suggestions, pointers, or end users who have done the same would be great
Thanks
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Have been advised that this is the best place to get the info I need :good:
Essentially I am thinking of purchasing the above phone purely to use as a music device. I already have the phone I want/am happy with (no msd slot). Hence looking at the above.
Now, being a UK model it will be subject to volume capping so I wanted to root the device, remove any bloatware, and install viper for Android.
Looking around this looks like a viable option, really after the simplest/easiest option to make this happen
The device is already out of warranty - so not worried about that, would also consider removing any other function than music replay, browser and Bluetooth (even phone, contacts, weather etc etc).
This would be a first time root, but I'm relatively tech savvy and have flashed other (ios devices) with jailbreak, rockbox etc so not completely alien to me
Any suggestions, pointers, or end users who have done the same would be great
Thanks
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Post #2 here will root you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...eneral/simple-reversable-root-method-t3302157 The rest of the thread will fill you in on the Kingroot controversy.
Besides Kingroot, you can either unlock BL, and flash su/kernel/recovery, or use downgrade method.
Or prf method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...ck-step-step-to-rooted-lollipop-14-6-t3213465
Thanks for that, kingroot certainly seems the easiest option
As I wouldn't have any contacts on the device, no banking or other related apps and nothing in the way of PayPal etc used on its browser (if used at all) I guess there would be minimal risk - If in fact the conspiracy theories were correct of course? Used as a pure music playback device and nothing else I see no risk at all
You can still use your phone for stuff like banking after you are rooted. Just be careful with what you install and what permissions you are giving to your apps. Avoid downloading shady apps from other places like play store and browse safely and there is no security issue for your phone.
KingRoot, may I add.
I have been finding myself only using Magisk for EmojiOne, but noticing I don't use Emoji like I used to anymore and am thinking since I only use Substratum with a Center Clock mod and have stopped using it for Dark theming, maybe going back to a stock based setup would be fine. I can use the Andromeda thing with Substratum which is an extra step but can do my center clock and possibly emoji one via substratum... not sure what else I would want root for... Updating is a touch of a pain for me. What do yo guys think, and have any of you gone back to stock?
I went back to stock just because I didn't want to have the uncertainty of being rooted.
Nothing wrong with rooting but I love this phone the way it is.
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For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
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For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
What was the question?
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Lol, I agree 100%. I can simply disable gMail and Calculator, the only 2 APPs pre-installed on my Pixel 2 XL that I don't need. I use Inbox by Google for eMails and a Calculator Widget for that. Aside from the EmojiOne and CenterClock, I don't even dark-theme anymore, especially not on this device with the "black crush" all the OLEDs have an issue with. I was rooted fro KCal, but am finding the Boosted setting works just fine and oddly my Blue Tint has weakened since my first few days where it was really bad. Almost like the display is wearing in and getting better? It's still there, but just not as much as that first fresh opening, so warming up the display isn't needed much for me now either.
I like to see where people's heads are at with each device, and this is one the extra input is nice to read.
I'm actually on the fence about rooting. Just received my phone this weekend and I can't decide. Going to unlock bootloader before fully setting up, but I have been playing with it a little. I've always rooted and ran custom ROMs as well as adaway. With PureNexus on my N6 I stopped flashing for over a year except the occasional ROM update. I simply like Android in it's simplest form.
I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
I used to have it for years, then more and more companies (Google and banks) made their apps check for root, and I tired of the cat and mouse game with SuperSU and Magisk. So I unrooted over a year ago. Didn't miss it at all until yesterday, when I wanted to do something with Tasker that requires root. But what I wanted to do falls into the category of "it would be nice" as opposed to "I have/need to do this", so I remain unrooted. I haven't really missed it much.
I am stuck without root since I have the Verizon model which was given to me free from work so I cannot complain too much. I have always rooted and messed with ROMs. The only thing I would need root for with the 2 XL is ad blocking with Chrome. I am trying the Samsung browser and ABP which work pretty well together.
If I didn't have the noise cancellation mic issue on my 6P I think I would have given up root a long time ago...
I rotate between stock and rooted daily lol
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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If you like it the way it is, then I'd just leave it. It's a great device on stock. However, having root, AdAway, TiBu, kernels, and mods, is a lot of fun as well. As long as you know adb and fastboot fairly well, rooting and flashing monthly updates is pretty easy :good:
I was rooted from the get go!!
I'm going to try to live without root for a bit but already hating not having AdAway. I just know I won't keep up with updates if I have to do them. I sure wish AdAway didn't need root
Ruraltech said:
I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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I'm not regretting going back to stock from rooted as the only things I no longer have is center clock and emojione, which I 'could' get using Andromeda / Substratum but heard you have to reconnect to the computer anytime you reboot the phone and decided that's just not worth it for me. I am interested in ad blocking if possible without Root for Chrome. Only Ads that get in my way are via "News" and articles I touch from the Google Feed. Sadly many lately are blatant click-bait, page-hopping crap and slideshows that I refuse to go past the first page on.
Edit: Well, just ran across something known as DNS66 and have that up and running without Root and sure enough, it's blocking Ads on everything, even in Chrome without issue.
sharkie405 said:
I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
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Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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Flash without wiping data.
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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See below. ?
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Flash without wiping data.
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First thing I did with my unlocked XL 2 was to unlock the bootloader. I then rooted once Magisk was available. I root so I can do pain-free full TiBu of my apps and for AdAway. Even though I have corporate email on my phone, the Magisk Hide bypasses their restrictions in the email app.
I'm actually kind of shocked we don't have more ROMs for this phone, though I'm not a Dev and don't know how complex it may be. If more Devs release custom ROMs, I'll be trying some out for sure.
I never buy android phone unless it's bootloader-unlockable and root-able
Too many handicap applied without root.
I hate dns/vpn based adblock, it cluttering my status bar and notification. So, yes, i need root for adaway,
Google limit Tethering frequency option for my country (No 5Ghz) so, yes, i need root to enable it,
I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
I like the ability to use Brevent, Edge Sense Plus, Greenify etc without the need of plugging my phone to PC and do adb command. So, yes, i rooted my phone for that.
The phone will never be 100% yours, unless you have total control over anything inside it
So,
There's no way am back to stock. Especially with xposed working so well right now.
otonieru said:
I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
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Assuming you are using Magisk, how did you get YouTube Red without subscribing? (You can PM me if you don't want to hijack this thread...)
I've only rooted a Samsung device since the Samsung Tab S 10.5.
Reasons I found why I would root the Samsung Galaxy S8+ SM-G955U:
- Adblocker (I don't mind blocking ads from apps/Samsung but I also don't mind them being there...)
- Removing System apps (I'd probably only remove a few that I found useless/don't mind them being there...)
- Backup/restore (I'd make a backup, but I can also do this without root I believe?)
- Using SmartThings to stream to my Vizio but having a full 65' screen with the proper aspect ratio. Yes this annoying not to see a full screen on a bigger screen that you stream to from your phone, it was new to me and I was happy with it but also hoping for a bigger screen output.
- Easy to overclock/return to normal clock for testing/emulation purposes and not for extended use.
- I don't believe I would do any button remapping on my phone, but I'd do anything that makes my phone look even better and have more effective usage.
- Background settings with color/image by root?
- Lockscreen wallpaper can be changed by root?
- I am guessing that I can turn on my flashlight with a button while the screen is off with root?
- Double tap home to instant sleep phone with root. Isn't there apps in Google Play that do things like this?
- Anything that increases sound and video/picture quality with root.
Reasons why I won't root:
- Samsung loss of apps
- Loss of software updates?
- Re-customize the internal portion of my phone . I don't have to worry about my emulator files on my SD card or my music. I also started using my phone without rooting in mind and excitedly set it up.
- I don't have warranty, I treat my phones rather well even when I rooted my Samsung Tab S 10.5, it is still rooted and solid running. For my tablet the warranty ran out. For this device, I got it refurbished with no warranty.
- UPDATE: I forgot to mention, I'd also have to deal with a fixed Netflix rather than the actual app and its updates.
Sadly I'll loose a number of things by Samsung that I read about. I'll then have to remove those apps and I have been happy with what I have. There are also plenty of risks while it's rooted + bootloader unlocked.
Wonder if my battery would drain more with root depending on all the functions I would want.
I also wonder if I would get anymore software updates.
I read about developer updates that are better and faster than what software updates release.
What do you think about whether or not I should root now? Some of the things I want to do listed above may have apps for that without root as well as I am not annoyed by ads or by extra system apps with 64GB ROM. Anyone believe that some of the things I really want to do comes with an app instead of having to root?
The most useful things would be tap a button to turn on my flashlight when the screen is off, easy to overclock and put back, SmartThings resize on 65' screen, change the customization color/images of my phone further, double tap to sleep, increase sound and video/picture quality, though I like the way my phone sounds.
G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
So I have SM-G955U as well, with version 1 bootloader. Can I root this?
Also I want to use the Verizon bands so is there any recommendation for what I should try to do?
thus far, i have found absolutely no clear instructions on how in the heck to do this.
there is so much noise on this forum about older variations and over seas models.
AhmedKhan123 said:
G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
rosel11078 said:
there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
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Correct cause I believe it's the one I'm using. I was 955u and had lots of issues trying to find a proper guide that worked but it wasn't till I paid someone for the service to do It for me that I finally got root. And I think afterwards it changed my phone to g955u1. Also yes been on 7.0 since I got the phone rooted 2 years ago
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G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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LOL he speaks on that which he knows nothing about
all jokes aside, I am getting tired of having to use Nougat. losing support for a lot of stuff I like. the only thing that keeps me from giving up root is Viper4Android. where else am I supposed to find a sound driver like that?
Hello everyone,
So is rooting Worth it or should i wait for a while?
Not nearly as important today as years ago when OEM firmware was buggy, laggy and without many features. Nowadays, most of the features we used to root our roms for are built in to stock roms and with as much ram as we have in phones, lagginess no longer seems to be much of an issue.
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
Berner said:
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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You don't get ads if you opt out of them during setup.
dns.adguard.com
put this as dns in wireless setting.
Currently I have two reasons to flash
To access auxiliary cameras in gcam we need root
And also to use substratum themes we need root.
But since there is no straight way of rooting as in no official twrp support for now ..I will do it later . I can probably do without the above two things
Berner said:
I was going to wait to root, but getting ads on my phone was a deal breaker. I need a good root-level ad-blocker.
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adgaurd is doing good for me so far
Here I briefly provided the device with root, this to restore my apps via swift backup. Then flashed full OTA and back on original boot.img.
I have had root for a while but have not used it a lot, if you want to remove system / apps or something it will not work, thank you Google for this. As long as it is not possible to mount, root is useless for me.
Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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Personally I don't feel it's worth it, given the potential of creating other problems, having to fix boot loops, and generally falling into a rabbit hole vortex which has nothing to do with the everyday life in front of me ?
In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
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Really it depends on what you want to do /achieve.
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That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
In short, yes, mainly because you can get back some of the Google apps. The OnePlus phone dialer app is terrible. If you're rude, you can get the Google one. Also you have easier access to Google feed
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
jim262 said:
That is absolutely true, but virtually most of the things one can gain nowadays are rather minimal gains. Nowadays, with phones having 6,8 and even 12 GBs of ram and better optimized stock roms, they generally run smoother than third party roms. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. Stock roms didn't have many of the features I wanted and the only way to get them was in adding them to third party roms, like AOSP. Now, many of those features are already baked into Android and overall development is down.
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Don't have to be rooted to get Google feed. Many launchers have it, such as pixel launcher, nova, cpl, lawnchair and others. Also the google phone dialer can be added via apk. No root needed.
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I agree with everything you said. But it's mostly not about making tweaks to get better performance nowadays.
For me, the biggest reason I root is because of Viper4android.
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Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control?
Eddiemc said:
Upside:
As of now:
Adblocking, Freezing apps, accessing system files, proper backups and restore, easier/more Tasker capabilities, proper substratum, "better" YouTube vanced, working gcam aux, custom kernels and kernel tweaks such as minimum brightness, oh, and did I say adblocking?
In the future:
Twrp, custom ROMs, probably a fix/mod for the goddamn ****ty default camera, you name it...
Downside:
Some reading about how to root
Actually rooting (unlocking bootloader needing a data wipe)
Remembering not to reboot before applying root again after ota system updates (and having to download full size every time)
Some extra settings/work needed to hide root from bank apps
Worth the extra hassle? absolutely freaking yea.
My device, my control
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Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
jim262 said:
Everything you say is true, but you can achieve virtually all those things without root nowadays. Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software, no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10, all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them. Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root and most ROMs today are actually smoother and faster because of better optimization nowadays and lots more RAM and storage. These things were extremely important in the day when most phones operated with 2 GB ram and 16 GB storage, but things are way different now, so it is not as critical anymore.
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The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
^^ How do I back up application ________'s data? I don't update apps daily/weekly, usually quarterly or less. Will take a backup (titaniumbackup) first before doing updating so I can revert back if there issues.
Google backup still is not 100% reliable. How else can the above be done on an unrooted device?
Kirahvi said:
The question is "is rootiong worth it" not "should you do it" or "what was it like in the past." Please try to stay on topic.
"Most major OEMs offer proper backup and restore software." Not all do and most of the apps are abysmally lacking in features.
"no need for substratum as themeing (dark mode) is already built in to 10." Yeah not even close buddy.
"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable...
"Ad blocking can also be done to varying degrees with out root" You get much better adblocking with root and much more controll over your hosts file among other features.
Discussing is root worth it here on XDA is really ironic and shows what this site has become.
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"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
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"all apps can be disabled with adb commands and many stock OS's also offer a ability to disable and uninstall many of them." Having to connect my phone to a computer with adb installed and learn complicated commands or downloading an app and clicking uninstall/disable... Is that any harder than having to root your phone by connecting your phone to a computer also and use adb commands? As far as themeing goes, I can fully theme my phone on my Vivo Nex, Google Pixel, Samsung S10 and Note10, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Redmi and Huawei phones. Not sure which phones your using, you can theme all these phones. Dark mode can easily be enabled in Android 10 and OnePlus has offered a system wide Dark Mode UI for years and with Google now embracing it, virtually all Google apps can turn dark as well. Gmail, Play Store, You Tube, Photos, etc ... all dark.
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The dark theme you are talking about man doesnt compare to what swift installer or substratum can achieve at the moment. There is a reason why we are still using these apps even when windows 10 has a dark mode. You might be comfortable with it but some of us are not. I like my phone fully black with a proper adblock , viper4arise to make my earphones sound even better, now i have instagram mod called instaperfs can download pics from the gram. The amount of stuff i can achieve with root a lot. So yeah rooting is still way worth it. Banking apps just need to be hidden in magisk and you are good to go
Adaway is a long time fav