ROOT on locked bootloader - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

Hi guys. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock bootloader, install twrp, root with magisk or supersu, flash stock recovery, then relock the bootloader.
I'm asking this because I have no intention of changing the stock rom but I want to have root just in case an app needs it. Also, when I startup the phone, there's that annoying message. Aaaaand I still want to banking apps and Android pay. Thank you!
Edit. Don't try this because it will brick your device. tried, confirmed, bricked.

Nope, won't work. Try locking bootloader with modified system and you'll end up with a brick.
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If u try to lock bootloader back make sure to install stock recovery 1st

Explorer23 said:
Nope, won't work. Try locking bootloader with modified system and you'll end up with a brick.
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Hmm, magisk messes the system partition, right?
Bradl79 said:
If u try to lock bootloader back make sure to install stock recovery 1st
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I'm thinking of giving it a go

Maybe, dunno for sure, I don't use magisk.
You may try if you want, just keep that unbrick tool handy.
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Explorer23 said:
Maybe, dunno for sure, I don't use magisk.
You may try if you want, just keep that unbrick tool handy.
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yep, you were right. after locking the bootloader, it gets in a bootloop, and restarts forever. luckily i was able to enter stock recovery and was able to flash 7.0 again. cheers

Back to your first post - you can have root with magisk and still pass safetynet (so banking apps etc will work), but the bootloader has to remain unlocked. Again, I can't go into details as I'm personally not using this, but I know that it works from what I'm reading on this forum.
You just can't get rid of that message on boot, otherwise having an unlocked bootloader is not really an issue.
Btw, even that message can be skipped by pressing the power button again, no need to wait 5 seconds.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have magisk installed. SafetyNet passes with hide enable. I can confirm Android Pay works. My banking app works, but I'm sure which banking app you're using.

I too can confirm that when magisk is installed and safetynet can be passed, my banking apps work totally fine here in Germany
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Magisk is fantastic, not only is it starting to open a new xposed like module repository, but being able to pass safety net and have root is awesome..
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I did it just for the sake of experiment!!!

baskaflyfer said:
I did it just for the sake of experiment!!!
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Teach us, master!

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Question about ROOT

Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
No. if u root you wont get updates
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Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
doums_ said:
Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
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Via incremental updates, flash it through TWRP recovery
And it's the officials updates ?
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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ptoner said:
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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Ok thanks all !
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Can someone tell me whether you can still use Android pay after you root?
Thanks.
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As long as you don't install xposed I think you are OK.
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Thanks for that ptoner
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doums_ said:
Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
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You have to unlock the bootloader too. Unblocking the bootloader will wipe your device.
As a rule of thumb, I always unlock bootloader on day one of purchasing my devices. (mostly Nexus or OP so far). This way you avoid potentially losing data.
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
Bradl79 said:
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
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You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
2x4 said:
You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
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What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
doums_ said:
What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
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With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
2x4 said:
With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
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Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
doums_ said:
Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
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root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
2x4 said:
root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
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Ok thanks you. I see the threads in OP3 xda forum.
One more question : is the warrantly lost after rooting ?

Is anyone using Magisk?

If so, can you post a little about the initial setup? If you want to change kernels do you have to resort back to stock each time?
I understand you need to be completely stock when you install it the first time, I assume with an unlocked bootloader?
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
Sorry, what's Magisk?
Bakapo said:
Sorry, what's Magisk?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382/page344
knipp21 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382/page344
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I use Magisk on all Nougat roms. I haven't had any luck with "Chainfires" SuperSU v2.78 or any other version for that matter. I think the set up requires a couple more steps that just flashing a SuperSu zip like the one we are all used to but the benefits that come with Magisk are worth it and it just plain works. And if you use the Magisk manager you can also toggle SElinux on and off and turn root on and off for apps that require no root.. I have been on board since N hit and we has no working root accept for this, and once I used it I was hooked.
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glockman4519 said:
I use Magisk on all Nougat roms. I haven't had any luck with "Chainfires" SuperSU v2.78 or any other version for that matter. I think the set up requires a couple more steps that just flashing a SuperSu zip like the one we are all used to but the benefits that come with Magisk are worth it and it just plain works. And if you use the Magisk manager you can also toggle SElinux on and off and turn root on and off for apps that require no root.. I have been on board since N hit and we has no working root accept for this, and once I used it I was hooked.
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Yeah I'm enjoying it. Also the automagisk app helps with other apps.
I'm using the phh superuser and its been working fine. Just waiting for xposed to drop for N and I'll be happy.
knipp21 said:
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
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Yes, please, if you don't mind. It's a bit of information overload in the magisk thread. I've been watching it intently as the program has developed. Just haven't pulled the trigger on flashing yet.
tallgrasshawk said:
Yes, please, if you don't mind. It's a bit of information overload in the magisk thread. I've been watching it intently as the program has developed. Just haven't pulled the trigger on flashing yet.
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Yea no prob.
What I did was use the nexus root toolkit to unlock my bootloader (replacement phone) then followed this guide
http://blog.meltedpeng.com/easiest-way-to-install-systemless-root-and-xposed-on-your-nexus-5/
But I replaced the su with the phh super user from magisk.
I also did Franco kernel.
If I need to explain more let me know.
hie guys i am actually new to magisk and using this for pokemon go, my phone is nexus 6p and running android 7.1.1. Everything is working fine as i have checked on root checker pro, I am having some problems and i hope i will get some help here
1.) i am not able to move any app to system, error showing is 'can not remount system'
2.) when i restore any back up it restores till 53% and then stucks in bootloop
3.) i am not able to install any update even if i hide my root. tried flashfire also
and sorry for bad english
knipp21 said:
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
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I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
alexdpaul said:
I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
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If the ROM does not come with root, reflash ROM and​ then magisk.
alexdpaul said:
I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
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Magisk does not overwrite supersu, if it detects supersu it does not install it's own superuser version. It continues to allow the system use supersu.
If you want to use magisk and use magisk's su, then you'd need to use a rom that does not come rooted and then flash magisk.
patmann03 said:
Magisk does not overwrite supersu, if it detects supersu it does not install it's own superuser version. It continues to allow the system use supersu.
If you want to use magisk and use magisk's su, then you'd need to use a rom that does not come rooted and then flash magisk.
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Thanks for the explanation.
Finally got Magisk installed by removing SuperSU, reflashing the boot image (stock), then Magisk - all good!
Can anyone tell me some benefits of magisk apart from hiding root to some apps?
I just discovered this
Javi22 said:
Can anyone tell me some benefits of magisk apart from hiding root to some apps?
I just discovered this
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Magisk modules, that allow to use some mods without touching the system like the EIS for example...
AFK269 said:
Magisk modules, that allow to use some mods without touching the system like the EIS for example...
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Ok so it only is useful if you don't want to modify system for Android pay and that?
Thanks
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Javi22 said:
Ok so it only is useful if you don't want to modify system for Android pay and that?
Thanks
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A lot of apps won't work if they detect root, or if the SafetyNet won't pass. Android Pay is one of them, but a lot of banking apps, Pokemon Go, Mario Run, etc won't work.
crazyates said:
A lot of apps won't work if they detect root, or if the SafetyNet won't pass. Android Pay is one of them, but a lot of banking apps, Pokemon Go, Mario Run, etc won't work.
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Well I don't use those apps but when I've time I will try magisk just to see some modules might be interesting. Thanks for the info
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Javi22 said:
Well I don't use those apps but when I've time I will try magisk just to see some modules might be interesting. Thanks for the info
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The modules are worth it. I only use a few for the camera, like 60fps video or EIS, and they're quite nice.

Community Build Questions

Hi I'm just wondering, I'm on whatever rom the phone came with. Official OOS latest update. No root. No unlocked bootloader... For the first time ever with a phone I think?
I'm tempted by the community builds but just want to know for certain,
Do I need to unlock my bootloader? Someone said this and I thought that was strange considering you apparently side load it via adb in stock recovery.
Will I lose my data? If I will then I'll wait until after my 4 days at work as I need my phone as it is really. If not I'll flash straight away.
Thanks!!
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You can sideload without unlocking bootloader.
But you'll want to unlock the bootloader to make any further modifications after sideloading CB.
Also the phone will be wiped and reset to factory settings on unlocking the bootloader.
Thanks for the reply. So if I side load without unlocking bootloader it will be just like an update and no data wipe will happen?
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ephumuris said:
Thanks for the reply. So if I side load without unlocking bootloader it will be just like an update and no data wipe will happen?
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Actually I haven't tried it but theoretically no data loss or errors should happen as you are still switching to a Marshmallow based ROM and that too from Oneplus itself.
You're good to go.
If retaining stuff is important to u, u should root and unlock bootloader, it does not void warranty, use titanium backup and just go through trwp, so if anything does ever happen in the future u will have ur backups
I've always used root and stuff but lately I'm enjoying no root. Using Android Pay etc.
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Magisk way of rooting - how to get boot.img?

As some of you certainly know, Magisk manager has capability of rooting system.
The needed thing is kernel image, boot.img, very the same which seats in the device.
If the stock ROM was available to download then the kernel image would be possible to obtain by pulling it out from the ROM file (preferably zip).
So where to get the stock ROM file, please?
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plejadrian said:
As some of you certainly know, Magisk manager has capability of rooting system.
The needed thing is kernel image, boot.img, very the same which seats in the device.
If the stock ROM was available to download then the kernel image would be possible to obtain by pulling it out from the ROM file (preferably zip).
So where to get the stock ROM file, please?
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Here is the kdz file for tmo variant that @jlink38 linked here.
I never had any luck extracting it.
kc6wke said:
I never had any luck extracting it.
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And how have you tried?
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plejadrian said:
And how have you tried?
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LGExtract.exe
Here is a link to the Q610TA10K firmware
I'm thinking about the LG tablet I had. No root for it so someone did the Magisk thing also. Tablet was easily unlocked allowing us to put the image in place.
For the Q7, once a boot image is modified how would you get it in place on a running ROM? Far as I know the device is still locked down.
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marcdw said:
I'm thinking about the LG tablet I had. No root for it so someone did the Magisk thing also. Tablet was easily unlocked allowing us to put the image in place.
For the Q7, once a boot image is modified how would you get it in place on a running ROM? Far as I know the device is still locked down.
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Yes, it is locked. Unless there is a way to flash it the way you flash the kdz file, I think we are Sol.
I gave up on root on this device.
kc6wke said:
Yes, it is locked. Unless there is a way to flash it the way you flash the kdz file, I think we are Sol.
I gave up on root on this device.
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My LG Q7+ has this developer option
knusto said:
My LG Q7+ has this developer option
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So does every other phone. The fact is the bootloader is not unlockable.
kc6wke said:
LGExtract.exe
Here is a link to the Q610TA10K firmware
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So doesn't LGextract.exe work, or what?
BTW. We're talking on ROOTing the device, not unlocking.
We can root it without unlocking, I've a Huawei tablet with MediaTek too and it has been rooted by KingoRoot without touching anything else.
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plejadrian said:
So doesn't LGextract.exe work, or what?
BTW. We're talking on ROOTing the device, not unlocking.
We can root it without unlocking, I've a Huawei tablet with MediaTek too and it has been rooted by KingoRoot without touching anything else.
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LGextract.exe did not work for me. Even If the boot img could be modified, as @marcdw stated "how would you get it in place on a running ROM?"
Without unlocking the bootloader this is not possible.
Kingroot, kingoroot will not work on this device atm, I've tried every method possible that's why I gave up on root on this device.
Maybe some day it will but I doubt it.
kc6wke said:
LGextract.exe did not work for me. Even If the boot img could be modified, as @marcdw stated "how would you get it in place on a running ROM?"
Without unlocking the bootloader this is not possible.
Kingroot, kingoroot will not work on this device atm, I've tried every method possible that's why I gave up on root on this device.
Maybe some day it will but I doubt it.
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I had this problem with my q7+ I bought in Brazil where I live, it did not have Norwegian language, and I'm Norwegian. So I had to use an app; custom locale. This app needs root, but I was able to give right permission using ADB, so now I have Norwegian language. (Or any language I want).
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LGExtract.exe
Here is a link to the Q610TA10K firmware
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Excuse me, where to get LGExtract.exe from?
Why haven't you managed to extract boot.img? What were the errors like?
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plejadrian said:
Excuse me, where to get LGExtract.exe from?
Why haven't you managed to extract boot.img? What were the errors like?
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Here
It says file is corrupt.
good luck
Please, post to this thread and describe the problem. Maybe someone knowledgeable join the effort
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Please, post to this thread and describe the problem. Maybe someone knowledgeable join the effort
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Sorry, not gonna kick a dead horse.
Even if the boot img could be modified with magisk, there still is no way to install to device without unlocked bootloader.
And have you refferred to this method ?
What do you think of these instructions:
https://www.techdroidtips.com/lg-q7-2018-unlock-bootloader/
especially this:
In conclusion, Android versions later than lollipop come with an option of OEM Unlock in the developer options. So, its quite easy to unlock the bootloader on any latest smartphone devices. And Still, some of the smartphones may not come with this option. Hence, in order to unlock the bootloader, you need to manually do it via PC.
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There is the option OEM Unlock in this device, so?
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plejadrian said:
And have you refferred to this method ?
What do you think of these instructions:
https://www.techdroidtips.com/lg-q7-2018-unlock-bootloader/
especially this:
There is the option OEM Unlock in this device, so?
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LG Q7+ is not on the list of supported devices from LG.
And mine is LM-Q610.EMW, it isn't "plus", so has it a potential?
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And mine is LM-Q610.EMW, it isn't "plus", so has it a potential?
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Not on the list
However this list is extremely scarce. It seems something is wrong with it.
This is why wanted to try. The first obstacle is it is impossible to reboot into bootloader (which is needed to obtain device ID). When the command "adb reboot bootloader" is executed then the phone simply reboots into system again. (Attention: when "adb reboot recovery" is executed then it does Factory Reset!)
How to make it boot into bootloader? Is there any keys combination for it?
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Unlocked Bootloader and Netflix

Hello, I have an unlocked and rooted 7T and it makes my phone limited to sd quality when watching netflix (i have the premium hd subs). Is there any way to bypass this without unrooting and relocking the bootloader? Thanks!
Hi
Try magisk hide with Netflix
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Hi
Try magisk hide with Netflix
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doesn't work, have tried it.
And in case i want to relock the bootloader, what are the steps? Currently running 10.0.7.HD65AA and rooted with magisk. Also stock recovery and i think stock firmware (?) Don't know how to check for the firmware. Kernel is 4.14.117-perf+ which i think is stock already. thank you
kenlee97 said:
doesn't work, have tried it.
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When you unlock the bootloader it trips widevine Level and sets in to L3. L1 is needed for HD.
There's nothing to be done.
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Lossyx said:
When you unlock the bootloader it trips widevine Level and sets in to L3. L1 is needed for HD.
There's nothing to be done.
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Any guide on relocking the bootloader? Do I have to flash stock boot.img first to remove root and magisk before relocking it through fastboot?
kenlee97 said:
Any guide on relocking the bootloader? Do I have to flash stock boot.img first to remove root and magisk before relocking it through fastboot?
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You have to remove root and magisk to be 100pct stock or else your phone will get the "You phone cannot be trusted and will not boot..." Message if you relock the boot.
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You have to remove root and magisk to be 100pct stock or else your phone will get the "You phone cannot be trusted and will not boot..." Message if you relock the boot.
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how to remove the root and magisk completely? just click uninstall on magisk?
kenlee97 said:
how to remove the root and magisk completely? just click uninstall on magisk?
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You can try uninstalling it but before you do that be prepared to have a soft brick and backup stuff cause I did that on 20.0 magisk and it wouldn't boot at all. Maybe it was a glitch idk, but if it does you'll have to MSM back to stock

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