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Will they ever launch the bump signing site? If so when?
LongSimple said:
Will they ever launch the bump signing site? If so when?
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I heard that somebody told this other person that was told by another forum member that he over heard it was tonight at midnight MST..just what I heard tho
Be patient. It's just like the bootloader problem we thought would never be solved. It's coming we just don't know when.
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Will they ever launch the bump signing site? If so when?
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When they feel it's ready
I dont think so .. We will keep waiting
i think they will hold it back every time one day longer for every question about ETA.
so now it will take one day longer because of this thread. thanks.
I know Bump! for unlock the bootloader. What is "bump site" ?
liamR said:
I know Bump! for unlock the bootloader. What is "bump site" ?
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It will be a tool for the rim developers to sign their boot images, so the G3 would flash it.
It will be released when it's released.
dude stop asking for eta, leave our devs alone and they will deliver for sure! just be patient or you'll end up like others who sold their g3 just because they couldnt wait for bootloader unlock, then bump came.. same thing for the website, we all need to calm our horses and wait for the devs to perfect their work.
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Why is everyone so impatient? Most people complaining will never actually use this service themselves anyway, their demands are purely selfish because they want more development to happen.
Just wait, of course they will release it, they would not have bothered wasting everyone's, including their own releasing the TWRP image if they were not going to follow through.
What they are doing is not a quick job, they are building a website where images can be uploaded, patched on their servers then downloaded again, they are also releasing an API so that it can be done via scripts rather than on a website - this takes time, and there is no point releasing anything until its all ready.
We should see android 5.0 before the end of this year (according to LG UK, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium) so start focusing on that for now and leave Team Codefire to do their thing.
Lennyuk said:
Why is everyone so impatient? Most people complaining will never actually use this service themselves anyway, their demands are purely selfish because they want more development to happen.
Just wait, of course they will release it, they would not have bothered wasting everyone's, including their own releasing the TWRP image if they were not going to follow through.
What they are doing is not a quick job, they are building a website where images can be uploaded, patched on their servers then downloaded again, they are also releasing an API so that it can be done via scripts rather than on a website - this takes time, and there is no point releasing anything until its all ready.
We should see android 5.0 before the end of this year (according to LG UK, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium) so start focusing on that for now and leave Team Codefire to do their thing.
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What this man said. Be patient.
We should wait until Lollipop is released, as they say, till december. Otherwise LG can maybe STOP bump from 5.0,I don't know. There's no need for this hurry, i really don't see the point.
Can't believe you even put a [serious] tag on there. Bump website is going to come when it's going to come. That's your serious answer.
Since the paranoid android team sources their code from aosp, which got the lollipop push on the 3rd of November, when can we expect a final 4.x and work on lollipop to begin?
Furthermore, when's the earliest we can expect a beta push? (Note 2 user here)
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
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Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
BigBallsac said:
Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
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You asked for an EtA, and I told you to never "expect" it. We don't even support your device... So how can we give anyone an EtA when we have no idea how long developing something will take?
I really wish people understood the process here and the fact that asking for etas is frowned upon and discouraged
#stayparanoid
i swear some people are raised by f$cking wolves.....
no manners and expect everything for free.
So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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Well, considering all work on 4.4.4 has been dropped, you can expect to NOT get a 4.4.4 build again
#stayparanoid
Any idea on the timeframe of the first 5.0 based release? I've got the 5.0 release on my N7, but it's so slow. I'm excited to give it a try on my OPO.
We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
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No. We cannot provide any approximations at all. This shouldn't even be questionable.
A. We don't have time we can set aside for development. We fit stuff in when we can in between real life functions and responsibilities.
B. Everyone has a part of the development process. We all have to coordinate these efforts in order to produce something.
C. This is not our job. We try to do this for fun. A hobby. Would it be appropriate to ask when you will have something for me to play with from your hobby? Take RC cars for example. Let's say you like to build RC cars and some cool new gear was just released. Should I come to you and ask you, nay, tell you that you need to give me a date that I will be able to play with your new toy?
So, no, we cannot tell you a date or an approximate date for anything. It lands when it lands.
#stayparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S. Nexus 4 owner here.
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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ArchieTor, can I get an ETA on when you will respond to franciscofranco? I need to know this ASAP.
Thx
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franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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The past month on the G+ Community in a nutshell.
@NBruderman we are expecting 5.0 for S4 i9500 very soon. Have you made any progress so far, can't wait! You make the most stable builds till date.
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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The reason there's no ETAs given on things like this is because it's all superficial. For all you know, they found some drawbacks and you'll find a slightly disgruntled community that was expecting it then and didn't get it. It's best to just wait it off.
pa colors
Wil pa colors be able to use in 5.0?
I want to recolor my status bar (clock, battery etc.) but cannot in 4.4.4 version, would be so happy if we get back this option in lollipop???
Wow, as I sometimes read my posts, I'm gettin' even more motivated to prevent myself from getting in any contact with alcohol for a lifetime (Disclaimer: Never had it so far.)
Last time I had Internet access (I wasn't having it Dec 2—15), I wanted to write that I'm sorry, and I of course appreciate your work, and that I understand it's not your job, just hobby (I know there are people who think that all of the open-source software is created by companies employing programists for a cash and having profit from it in not-well-precised sources, and I ain't one of them), I wanted to highlight it with "Thank you for what you do for us", so you wouldn't think I expect an ETA in a way like a money-paying consumer would.
I was thinking about your response once again and now I understand you that you don't want to give an ETA, as it might become somehow disinformation, and some people involved would take it as inappropriate, as you can't just say for the whole team of volunteers how much work you're going to do during a certain period of time. When I tried to compare to compare the situation with my case (I'm creating simple Python programs (still just learning (the best way of learning to code is actually trying to create something new with just the very basic knowledge)) with just ~160 clones every month), in which if somebody asked me for an ETA, I might give one, but it would be inaccurate, and usually also be disinformation, and if I'd work with other people also considering it as a hobby, I wouldn't be sure whether to try to even very inaccurately estimate the time until next release or some fix.
So there, I know I'm being annoying, I'm sorry for that and I'm gonna try to stop it.
Cheers,
Michael
P.S.: Maybe you can't actually give a date, but can you provide a link to, for example, a stream of commit descriptions best to follow if I'd want to try to estimate when it'll be ready?
Follow +paranoid android on g+. Watch https://gerrit.paranoidandroid.co
#stayparanoid
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
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One or two years. OK?
Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield
Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML
If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...
MatteXperiaU said:
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.
custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.
SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
TheSSJ said:
This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all
Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
I got my 5x last Tuesday and forgot how little I like "pure" android. I think the usual progression is flash aosp then flash cyanogenmod once the nightlies start to stabilize. I know I'm in the minority but the nexus phones usually have too much Google on them for my taste. I like the hardware, but the software is another story.
At any rate, I'm also waiting for the binaries and device tree so that I can start building my own.
m4r0v3r said:
Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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sn0warmy said:
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
m4r0v3r said:
oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
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Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
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Apology accepted.
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Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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I'm waiting too- it's not like google is still working on the binary drivers and just building the production rom with hacked up device trees until they get the real ones. I could be mis-remembering, but in the past, I thought the factory roms and binary drivers were available the day the devices were released.
I can certainly understand being patient with devs who are working on roms (for free/beer/donations), but google is done with the rom and has already released it to production. The factory image for the 6p was delayed as well. It's not a secret- they are going to push it to every one who bought a phone. My conspiracy theory is that google is trying to bury aosp, and merging android and chrome will be another stab into the heart of both privacy and freedom.
and its outtt
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and its outtt
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Waiting for some real nexus thing then
The last few times I've opened up SoundCamp on my s9+ I've been notified support is ending on the 28th of December and it will no longer be made available on either Google Play or Galaxy Apps.
Those who have it can keep using it, but good luck getting it without going to a 3rd party store after!
No Pie support. No news on an updated version. Nada.
I'm kinda bummbed and can't find much except straggles of info online, not even an explanation as to the why? anybody wants to chime in on this?
Probably no-one is using it, first time I've heard of it
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Probably no-one is using it, first time I've heard of it
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What blasphemy is this!
Just kidding, it wasn't so well publicised but it's a pretty fun wee thing to mess around with, it'll be sad to see it go, was actually very well fleshed out all be it a little gimmicky at times
Yeah, I just stumbled over Soundcamp these days. It's great, fun experience!
Do you have an idea which application substitutes Soundcamp best?
(see e.g. ask.audio/articles/samsung-kills-off-soundcamp-what-other-android-music-making-apps-are-there)
Would be great if one could make install's even in future.
Since I'm new here as a registered user: Where should I post to ask some experienced members, if they can investigate how to make Soundcamp possible to install even after tomorrow (28th of December, end of life of Soundcamp)?