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Best dual sim phone to switch to from Asus Zenfone 2 ???

Hi guys,
I would like to switch from my asus zenfone 2 64G to a more development supported dual sim phone. Preferably under $300 or exactly $300. What would be a good choice in your opinion.
Please, elaborate if possible.
Thanks

Please, advise me.

dual sim phone that works great and is UNDER $300? hummmmmmm ....... oh yeah - zenfone 2. Your price limitations exclude any dual sim phone worth it weight in toilet paper. Save up some extra cash for an Honor 8, or suck it up and keep this phone.

Redmi Note 3
Moto G4 Plus
Blu Life One X
Sony Xperia XA Ultra (Amazon has the Lime Gold w/64GB microSD for less than 300)
LeEco Le 2 (if you can find it)
Huawei Mate 8

Trotter516 said:
Redmi Note 3
Moto G4 Plus
Blu Life One X
Sony Xperia XA Ultra (Amazon has the Lime Gold w/64GB microSD for less than 300)
LeEco Le 2 (if you can find it)
Huawei Mate 8
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In my experience stay away from Blu products. Their screens are very fragile. They save money by not placing that extra layer of glass on it. So if it cracks at all you're done.
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Thanks my friends for all your opinions. What about Oneplus 2? Would you suggest it?

Yousvel said:
Thanks my friends for all your opinions. What about Oneplus 2? Would you suggest it?
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in thins price range don't think anything else go for Xiaomi mi5

Yousvel said:
Hi guys,
I would like to switch from my asus zenfone 2 64G to a more development supported dual sim phone. Preferably under $300 or exactly $300. What would be a good choice in your opinion.
Please, elaborate if possible.
Thanks
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if you want cheaper one and crazy about screen quality.. go for mi4i... best screen i think so. camera quality is far better than any samsung flahship.. don't go too much over online reviews. i personally used mi4i and mi5.

So did Lenovo change their mind on this model..?

They released the base model Phab 2 and the Pro, but I haven't seen or heard anything about the Plus model. Did they change their mind on releasing this one?

I got the Phab 2 Plus.

second_east said:
I got the Phab 2 Plus.
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I use two months. Very satisfied.
And what are your impressions?

Well it's good to know it was finally released. I haven't seen much news about it at all.

second_east said:
I got the Phab 2 Plus.
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Can you give a review about the camera please? and is the size bothering?

I doubt the phone gets released in the US. The phab 2 is just dead for development and no one sea that interested in the pro version yet either. There's no official support ROM for either one from the US market either witch means buying a phone with little or no support. Typical from Chinese sadly.

fobos68 said:
I use two months. Very satisfied.
And what are your impressions?
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1 month, loving it !
Battery al day long, big screen and no so heavy or slow :fingers-crossed:

Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

Modder001 said:
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

Where is gone Mi Max 3 6/128?

Hi,
I'm looking for a while the mi max 3 128.
But today, it seems very difficult to find one on retail store...
Or at very expensive Price. 64gb=240$ best price, 128gb=380$!!!!
What's the probleme? Any Idea? It's very difficult to got one. On aliexpress, impossible to find one...

pystolero said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a while the mi max 3 128.
But today, it seems very difficult to find one on retail store...
Or at very expensive Price. 64gb=240$ best price, 128gb=380$!!!!
What's the probleme? Any Idea? It's very difficult to got one. On aliexpress, impossible to find one...
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I think roms and xiaomi policies scared the sellers. XD
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That's also what I think

Yeah, weird thing about that model. One day I bought one from some AliExpress seller, 2 days later it went from 310$ to 380$. Guess I bought it just in time.

jorgeepelos said:
I think roms and xiaomi policies scared the sellers. XD
Enviado desde mi MI MAX 3 mediante Tapatalk
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Cna you explain please.
I am thinking about buying one too

illetyus said:
Cna you explain please.
I am thinking about buying one too
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Xiaomi don't release and seems to not release global rom for 6GB.
And Xiaomi want to blocked the possibilities to flash global rom, on a chinese device....

11.11 sales is coming. Sellers "adjust" the prices to look like real sale. Just wait some days.

ptr21 said:
11.11 sales is coming. Sellers "adjust" the prices to look like real sale. Just wait some days.
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Amazon's best practice...

ptr21 said:
11.11 sales is coming. Sellers "adjust" the prices to look like real sale. Just wait some days.
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I disagree.... Only 128gb device got an expensive Price... Not the 64GB... So...

Do not buy mi max 3.The phone is ni upgrade from mi max 2.i am really disappointed about this phone.More than month, and this thing is too big.Camera is not very good.To this moment i gave 6 7 xiaomi phones, and this one is biggest ****.

pystolero said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a while the mi max 3 128.
But today, it seems very difficult to find one on retail store...
Or at very expensive Price. 64gb=240$ best price, 128gb=380$!!!!
What's the probleme? Any Idea? It's very difficult to got one. On aliexpress, impossible to find one...
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Here you go, $304.42
https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html

jasonleeg said:
Here you go, $304.42
https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html
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Yes, tradingshenzen got the best price i've seen... Thx.

galev_90 said:
Do not buy mi max 3.The phone is ni upgrade from mi max 2.i am really disappointed about this phone.More than month, and this thing is too big.Camera is not very good.To this moment i gave 6 7 xiaomi phones, and this one is biggest ****.
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Someone is salty.
I find the Max 3 to be one of the best phones I've had so far. But this is coming from someone that loves big screen / battery phones.

MrColdbird said:
Someone is salty.
I find the Max 3 to be one of the best phones I've had so far. But this is coming from someone that loves big screen / battery phones.
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I agree... I got the three Mi Max. The third is clearly the best one.

I've the 2 and love it. Have just ordered the 6/128 from tradingschenzen as the bigger screen area, better camera and faster proc are all really appealing. My only worry is the lack of custom roms (currently rocking msm extended and love it on the 2) but once I can root for adblock, afwall and debloating I'll be happy.

FlamingGoat said:
I've the 2 and love it. Have just ordered the 6/128 from tradingschenzen as the bigger screen area, better camera and faster proc are all really appealing. My only worry is the lack of custom roms (currently rocking msm extended and love it on the 2) but once I can root for adblock, afwall and debloating I'll be happy.
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I was like you. Custom rom's lover ^^
But as long as I can root, got Adblock, and youtoube Vanced... Eventually a custom kernel for Oc... I'm happy.
I've just ordered one on tradingshenzen to...

S20 plus 128gb vs note 20 us version chipset 865

Hey y'all,
For Samsung s20 plus 128 gb 5g Unlocked
There was a $400 discount with trade in on Samsung store
I trade my cracked pixel 3xl and other discounts
so with case kravadat +protection plan I paid neary $1034 !(protection plan $11 every month ) everything tax is included
Additional free perks
YouTube 4 month
6 month Spotify
I always buy note series do u think it is a good deal and solid phone OR I should have waited for note 20?
What do xda community think?

zurhuho said:
Hey y'all,
For Samsung s20 plus 128 gb 5g Unlocked
There was a $400 discount with trade in on Samsung store
I trade my cracked pixel 3xl and other discounts
so with case kravadat +protection plan I paid neary $1034 !(protection plan $11 every month ) everything tax is included
Additional free perks
YouTube 4 month
6 month Spotify
I always buy note series do u think it is a good deal and solid phone OR I should have waited for note 20?
What do xda community think?
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Better wait for the note 20... galaxy s20 is a error almost at the level of note 7. A false start for Samsung.
Anyway if you prefer s20 plus after seeing Note20, at that time it will cheaper like always happens.
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I know the Ultra S20 has some camera focus issues.
I have the S20 plus and it is a great phone. The Note line is always a feature or 2 richer than the S models. But if you're comparing getting the S20 plus or wait for regular Note 20, not the plus, then I say get the S20 plus.
Some people are big on brand new. I don't mind getting phone 2nd hand. I purchased my s20 plus for $700 + tax. And I kept my Pixel 3 instead of a trade in.

DON'T BUY EXYNOS S20 LINE MODELS! DON'T DO IT. YOU WILL REGRET IT. btw the offer you got isn't special or cheap.

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Better wait for the note 20... galaxy s20 is a error almost at the level of note 7. A false start for Samsung.
Anyway if you prefer s20 plus after seeing Note20, at that time it will cheaper like always happens.
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Well I check this out today. I am getting phone today

zurhuho said:
Well I check this out today. I am getting phone today
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Exynos is like throwing money away... even if you pay half price [emoji23] good luck with that.
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theholyguy said:
Exynos is like throwing money away... even if you pay half price [emoji23] good luck with that.
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It is going to be us version 865

zurhuho said:
It is going to be us version 865
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Should be a bit better than exynos. Anyway probably would be better waiting for Note 20 maybe
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theholyguy said:
Should be a bit better than exynos. Anyway probably would be better waiting for Note 20 maybe
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I m just tired paying over $1k every time

zurhuho said:
I m just tired paying over $1k every time
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That's not going away anytime soon! Unless you step things down a bit.
The Note 20, if it uses the same lens as the S20, will have the same focal uniformity issues up close simply due to the physics in way a lens works. Autofocus has been resolved to acceptable performance with the latest update IMHO.
Eventually, the multi lens fad will pass and they will focus (no pun intended!) on single sensor/lens performance. A 16MP sensor @ f1.2 would be great.

cpufrost said:
That's not going away anytime soon! Unless you step things down a bit.
The Note 20, if it uses the same lens as the S20, will have the same focal uniformity issues up close simply due to the physics in way a lens works. Autofocus has been resolved to acceptable performance with the latest update IMHO.
Eventually, the multi lens fad will pass and they will focus (no pun intended!) on single sensor/lens performance. A 16MP sensor @ f1.2 would be great.
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Well you guys were right About galaxy series I just used 20.min and go back to my pixel 3 xl again. Today I am sending back to Samsung.
According me :
Great screen
Fast smooth experience but
So many bulky apps working under ground
Samsung store it all about for kids
pixel phones pure Android experience
And there is no direct casting from your phone unless if u are usingnetflix, YouTube etc, maybe I could not find it
In addition I saw slightly green line on edges
It is still so good for many users after pure Android experience it is hard to go back multimedia phone for me
I will check note 20; iPhone 12 or pixel 5 in the future.
I always admired of Sony phone however there no iOS support.
In the past I used Huawei p20 pro, xz premium iPhone 7,8 blackberry ,Samsung s10,20plus note,9 , even Nokia's nexus
In my experience my long run phones either note series, Google phones or iPhone.
However thank all y'all spending time and helping me.
Zurhuho

Why would you buy a device before you tried it out? You could have tested a demo before you spent all that money. Plus, you paid more than you should have, the S20 Plus 128Gb with Snapdragon SoC is available on eBay for $825.00 without all the Carrier Bloatware. Also, why do you think the Note Series will function better than the S20 Plus? They almost identical, same UI besides the S-Pen, Same SoC, a bigger battery and different camera won't overcome the issues you have with the S20 Plus.

varcor said:
Why would you buy a device before you tried it out? You could have tested a demo before you spent all that money. Plus, you paid more than you should have, the S20 Plus 128Gb with Snapdragon SoC is available on eBay for $825.00 without all the Carrier Bloatware. Also, why do you think the Note Series will function better than the S20 Plus? They almost identical, same UI besides the S-Pen, Same SoC, a bigger battery and different camera won't overcome the issues you have with the S20 Plus.
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You are definitely right!