Related
I spent my entire day to figure out the best way to connect my xperia ZL to a HDTV. What I want to do on my tv is:
a)Play all my music, tons of Mp3 in my phone.
b) Plays youtube video, sometimes I have friends over and its fun to watch music video or even dance with them (lounchign playlists)
c)Browse the web on the tv.
At first I thought to buy a smart tv, but then after reading all the reviews it is not really worth it. Cause people say that browsing the web with smart tv is a pain, and most of them do not have an hard drive where I can store my music to be played, and the utube app does not have the option to add adblock in order to play a youtube compilation seamlessly when I have a gathering/party. Therefore I decided to buy a standard tv and mirrow/share my phone screen to the TV. The available options are:
1)Connect by cable. Here I need to buy an MHL to HDMI Adapter + an HDMI cable. This seems like a good solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHa56Dm2j_8 . Wireless mouse and keyboard are an extra, I might just buy a 15 feet long HDMI cable that goes from the TV to my couch and use the phone. Do you have any experience on this? what MHL to HDMI Adapter works for the ZL (the one one the youtube video works for Z not sure for ZL)
2) Connect via the Throw sony feature. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVRV1u6qLWg I need either bluetooth or wifi on the TV, and it only works for 3 applications (walkman, album and video). You cannot throw youtube video. It could be an extra fast option to throw my music to the TV in case I am walking around the house but it would not be the solution for all the three a), b) and c) points I posted above. So this is excluded.
3)Using Chromecast. Seems like a good option. I dont know how fast and responsive it would be but it allows you to share the internet chrome browser and play utube video. But does not allow playing music I guess. And I guess no option to launch ad-free utube playlists since it would use the chromecast app to play video rite?
4)Using a android mini PC.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvozNRIms78. I did not dig into it too much. It has an harddrive where i can copy my music...but im not sure its convenient.
5)using the mirroring screen capability under settings-> display-> screen mirroring.It seems like I need a Miracast wifi gadget to add to my TV, like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgCDlrzqgdM . Cons: in the comments of the video it is said that you cannot connect to the wifi while you are mirroring, only 3G/4G I guess. What do you guys think?
6) Using NFC. Here is a ufficial video, but guys I have no idea what TV i should buy for doing this.
For what I have understood the easiest way is the old way via cable (point (1)). The only thing I am not sure of is: how can I charge my phone if the micro USB outlet is used buy the MHL to HDMI Adapter?? In 1 hour of browsing my phone will die!! could u enlighten me please?
As for wireless options, I like Miracast, but not sure if the fact that I am stuck on browsing with my 3G/4G network might be a problem. What do you guys suggest?
Thanks
A.
I'm using Chromecast, it's amazing for YouTube, Netflix, Google Play Movies and Music (for while)!
Edited: in chromecast forum you can see how to stream local video from your desktop
Sent from my C6503 using Tapatalk 4
I have 32inch sony lcd old one without wifi nd all. No way to connect it says device unsupported
Sent from my C6502 using xda premium
My whole house is wired with CAT 6 ethernet. Everything except my tablet and my cell phone is connected with a wire. WIth my Nexus 7 I am able to browse to an HD video stored on any pc in my house with ES File Explorer. I am able to open the file with BubbleUPNP and stream it to any TV in the house. Most of the time, it works ok. Most importantly, the files are played with DTS audio. I have to have my surround sound.
How does MiraCast compare? I have searched for the past half hour and found not one mention of whether MiraCast supports DTS Audio for example. Does anybody have any info?
volumnus said:
My whole house is wired with CAT 6 ethernet. Everything except my tablet and my cell phone is connected with a wire. WIth my Nexus 7 I am able to browse to an HD video stored on any pc in my house with ES File Explorer. I am able to open the file with BubbleUPNP and stream it to any TV in the house. Most of the time, it works ok. Most importantly, the files are played with DTS audio. I have to have my surround sound.
How does MiraCast compare? I have searched for the past half hour and found not one mention of whether MiraCast supports DTS Audio for example. Does anybody have any info?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends. BubbleUPNP runs in the background if you want to stream something that is compatible while Miracast is mirroring what is on your tablet.
On the other hand, BubbleUPNP is not compatible with everything (for example, Xfinity Streampix, or games) and also it isn't free.
I use Miracast regularly for watching YouTube videos. I also use it for movies once in a while. I like it because of the convenience it offers compared to my existing alternatives (WDTV & PS3 YouTube apps). I recently bought a Chromecast. So, I expect my dependence on Miracast to go down.
With Miracast, you get what you see in tablet. So, I assume there won't be any DTS audio.
I faced a few head aches when using Miracast initially:
1. It wouldn't connect reliably. I used to get stuttering in the video and audio. With the latest PTV3000 firmware, its working fine for me (see my post here).
2. The screen has to remain on all the time when you are playing something. To work around this, you will have to root your device and install Screen Standby app.
3. The TV resolution and Nexus 7 resolution should match. Otherwise, the video will get boxed. To work around this, I am using this app. Whenever I connect to Miracast, I use that app to manually set the Nexus 7 display resolution to 1920x1080, and revert to default after disconnecting. I came across another app that can do this automatically, but didn't try it because of its $6 price. Note that once you change the resolution, the icons will get misaligned (until you change it back).
4. I would also recommend the device be connected to a charger. I bought a Lugulake wireless portable charger so that I can leave the tablet on top of it without having to worry about battery.
Can PTV3000 be used as a DLNA renderer?
In BubbleUpnp, I can select the renderer device when playing music from my nas.
Can I use PTV3000 as a DLNA renderer without mirroring?
allsts said:
In BubbleUpnp, I can select the renderer device when playing music from my nas.
Can I use PTV3000 as a DLNA renderer without mirroring?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. Only option is to choose the "Cast" option in tablet. Whatever you see in tablet will appear on TV. PTV3000 doesn't get listed as a renderer similar to how it is in BubbleUpnp. If you are concerned about having to leave the tablet on, if you are rooted, you can use Screen Standby app.
Thanks for the answer. I have one more.
Someone knows any device (blu-ray, media player, etc) supporting both "Miracast" and "DLNA rendering" systems with mkv playback?
Not really a GPad specific question but i would like to try and use the GPad to stream mp3's from my computer to the TV.
I have had very limited success so far. Airstream gives me access to my computers files, twonky lets me beam my videos to my tv, but i cant seem to beam mp3's, they just play on the tablet. There is no option to send to the tv like with mp4's.
Also tried bubblepnp and air droid without success.
Anybody have it working, any better apps?
bry5o said:
Not really a GPad specific question but i would like to try and use the GPad to stream mp3's from my computer to the TV.
I have had very limited success so far. Airstream gives me access to my computers files, twonky lets me beam my videos to my tv, but i cant seem to beam mp3's, they just play on the tablet. There is no option to send to the tv like with mp4's.
Also tried bubblepnp and air droid without success.
Anybody have it working, any better apps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It might help if you told us what TV you have and what options it has. If you TV is DLNA then any of the upnp apps should let you play music to the TV. If your TV has Bluetooth you can send using that. If you have a chromecast you can cast from Google Play Music.
Sorry its a Panasonic and it has dlna but not bluetooth or miracast.
Like I first said suggested but did not perhaps make clear the problem is not so much sharing content, twonky gives me the option to beam videos but not mp3's. Its almost like the default player takes preference over all over software. I wonder if I can cancel any associations so that when I next select an mp3 I am asked which program to open it with and twonky will be in the list.
bry5o said:
Sorry its a Panasonic and it has dlna but not bluetooth or miracast.
Like I first said suggested but did not perhaps make clear the problem is not so much sharing content, twonky gives me the option to beam videos but not mp3's. Its almost like the default player takes preference over all over software. I wonder if I can cancel any associations so that when I next select an mp3 I am asked which program to open it with and twonky will be in the list.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BubbleUpnp should do what you want. In the Devices section, select your TV as the renderer, and you should be able to stream content from your tablet or any DLNA server on your network to the TV.
Ive seen so many mixed report regarding Miracast. I really like the idea but am cautious. From what i understand Netgears Push 2 TV PTV3000 is considered one of the better dongles. Anyone got any recommendations or are currently using Miracast on thier Tab S? Not entirely sure if it is even compatible. Would appreciate any feedback on your experiences and any recommendations.
I've got it. I use it. It works.
I got it when I had my Surface 2, I've continued using it with this Tab. Connects perfectly. Only thing I've noticed is that after watching a few HD YouTube videos, the sound goes out of sync with the video. I've yet to fully investigate this phenomenon, whether it be the YouTube app, the Tab, background apps etc. but can't see it been anything to do with the Netgear. I'm off on holiday now so won't be able to look into that for another week.
P.S. not sure if you could use Chromecast in the same way, but if so it would be a cheaper option.
SteveYorks said:
I've got it. I use it. It works.
I got it when I had my Surface 2, I've continued using it with this Tab. Connects perfectly. Only thing I've noticed is that after watching a few HD YouTube videos, the sound goes out of sync with the video. I've yet to fully investigate this phenomenon, whether it be the YouTube app, the Tab, background apps etc. but can't see it been anything to do with the Netgear. I'm off on holiday now so won't be able to look into that for another week.
P.S. not sure if you could use Chromecast in the same way, but if so it would be a cheaper option.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many thanks for your reply, did you root your Tab S?
No. And it's the 10.5
My DLink Miracast adapter works perfect with the Tab S 8.4. Remember to update the firmware after you get the adapter home. Else it'll lag like hell. After the update it works like a charm.
And Tab isn't rooted.
geoux said:
My DLink Miracast adapter works perfect with the Tab S 8.4. Remember to update the firmware after you get the adapter home. Else it'll lag like hell. After the update it works like a charm.
And Tab isn't rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Update:
After the recent Tab S firmware update, it simply stopped working. Samsung, what did you do?
Update:
After a firmware update of the Miracast dongle, it started working again. Darn.
Ah, glad it's not just me then. I tried casting to the tv the other day (I'd just rooted the day before that) and I got an incompatible hardware issue or something, thought I'd broken something. I might have had an update in the background and it's ****ed it.
I'm using the Netgear PTV3000.
possible solution
geoux said:
Update:
After the recent Tab S firmware update, it simply stopped working. Samsung, what did you do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
please see below...i know u say that you're not rooted but if u are using custom kernel or recovery then this pertains to u too
SteveYorks said:
Ah, glad it's not just me then. I tried casting to the tv the other day (I'd just rooted the day before that) and I got an incompatible hardware issue or something, thought I'd broken something. I might have had an update in the background and it's ****ed it.
I'm using the Netgear PTV3000.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if u are using cw/twrp/philz recovery and/or the sky high kernel then the custom images have broken your wifi...u can either install my SuperSamung V2 rom with the fix already included or edit your build prop by adding the line wlan.wfd.hdcp=disable then save & reboot
Sorry to revive an old thread, but i'm considering getting a Miracast dongle to feed powerpoint presentations to an office projector from my Tab S. Couple questions though:
1. Will it work?
2. Am I better off going the wired micro-usb-to-hdmi route?
I'd really rather go wireless so I can walk around and not worry about yanking the cable off in the middle of a meeting with top execs.
Why miracast instead chromecast? Chromecast works perfectly from the tablet or pc and has better support.
I just see miracast as a poor mans version of chromecast.
I'm also wondering about this.
For screen monitoring of e.g. games, photo viewing with Gallery of QuickPix, or tv streaming using an app provided by my cable company
I understood Chromecast is supposed to be especially good at showing content in the cloud. I forgot the exact list of supported services... Things like YouTube, picasa, Spotify, radio streams, Netflix? In this case, your tablet "refers" to the content, and chromecast does the actual downloading/streaming. Screen mirroring was added as an afterthought, and last I checked (hmm, 6 months ago) subject to a lot of disclaimers, supported only on some devices.
I understood Miracast is true screen mirroring, but the few receiver devices I looked at, mention technical limits, like (example) 15fps, which makes me doubt their use for video mirroring.
Thus I haven't bought anything yet :-\
More testimonies of miracast & Chromecast users could be interesting!
screen mirroring works fine with chromecast as long as you are not doing something effected by input/screen lag. Watching video from an app that is not natively supporting chromecasting (showbox...) is relatively simple. If you are on this forum you shoild have the ability to do it, just maybe not someone who can only facebook on their tab might have small issues. Casting pictures, slides, presentations or websites is fine too since there is no need to worry about the lag.
Gaming is annother story if you the person playing os wanting to use the tv screen then you have to pick a game with care. Any game that requires good to impossible timing (flappy anything or one finger death punch) is a great way for a masochist to have fun with out a sadist being in the room. Games that do not need fast timing like turn based strategy games or certain types of puzzle games are fine and work great. Even quite a few emulators work well like this but with the same game choice restrictions.
The screen lag you get is not anything like low fps it is input lag from the time difference it would take to simply send the information to your tablet vs the time it takes to send the information to your router and the router to send the information to the chromecast. I would assume miracast would suffer frome the same issues, though I haven't tried it yet.
acdbrn2000 said:
screen mirroring works fine with chromecast as long as you are not doing something effected by input/screen lag. Watching video from an app that is not natively supporting chromecasting (showbox...) is relatively simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
The audio went out of the tv when I did a cast using cast screen. Most of the casting I do from my device uses uPnPlay a wonderful free app that is as good as most if not all the paid upnp apps (bubble upnp/ allcast). I have never had any issues with audio desync using that app.
when I did a sceen cast with show box I did have a streaming hicup (a slight stutter) once or twice but that may have been due to my old router (wrt54g) and not so much the chromecast.
fred_be9300 said:
Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had any sync issues casting with chromecast.
In most situations you would never have to screen cast as chromecast can pretty much cast anything web or local natively.
Presentations is really the only use I can see for screen casting.
ashyx said:
In most situations you would never have to screen cast as chromecast can pretty much cast anything web or local natively. Presentations is really the only use I can see for screen casting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
as I mentioned earlier, my TV cable provider, has an app that streams live TV. We have a 2nd TV in the bedroom for which we don't have a decoder box, but I hope I could screenmirror the TV stream that I can get through the App (audio&video).
fred_be9300 said:
as I mentioned earlier, my TV cable provider, has an app that streams live TV. We have a 2nd TV in the bedroom for which we don't have a decoder box, but I hope I could screenmirror the TV stream that I can get through the App (audio&video).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should work fine for that then. You may get the occasional hiccup depending on many things but for the most part I do not see any reason why it would not work for you.
fred_be9300 said:
Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I caved and bought an Chromecast (CC)
Findings:
- screencast works fine most of the time. Transfers audio and video, and keeps good sync. But some applications cause a crash and reboot of the tablet (e.g. mirroring of MX Player playing a video)
- casting youtube works fine.
- the app I was most interested in (a TV streaming app of my local TV cable company) in fact does both Chromecasting, and works in screen casting mode. Hurray)
- good wifi reception is needed on both the tablet and the CC
and a general point
- according to reading around, it's not possible to use the CC without active internet connection, not even for local screencasting. Technically, it seems unnecessary to have an active internet connection on the WLAN that connects both the CC and the tablet (or pc), for local casting or screencasting. Read more at e.g. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chromecast/XRktmNTk0QY
Sorry to take the thread off-topic from Miracast - but I think it's interesting to hear testimonies of both Chromecast and Miracast, to compare
regards
I really hope I am not the only one with this issue. I recently purchased the official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable and noticed that when streaming YouTube or any other video through the regular web browser the audio cuts out and back in every few minutes. Although it is something I can live with it is rather annoying. Is this a known issue with this tablet?
Doesn't happen with my generic eBay cable, so no.
Get yourself a chromecast and do away with silly wires.
Thanks for the quick reply!
My Wifi kinda sucks so unfortunately Chromecast won't do me much good. I'm going to try a factory reset and if that doesn't work I'll have to return the tablet.
Maybe try a different browser or use semper vidlinks or vget to stream online videos through a media player, highly recommend mxplayer for this. As for you tube I would use the app not the browser.
Yea I think the YouTube app works, but I don't want to deal with ads (also don't want to root while under warranty)
I tried both Dolphin (adblock plugin) and NoChromo which blocks ads by default, audio still cuts out for about a second every so often.
Give vget and mxplayer a go. You can also use web video caster to do the same thing. Between the 2 almost any online video is playable via mxplayer.
So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?
spartasr said:
So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to make sure that you are on the page where the playable video that you want is. Semper vidlinks is good for extracting links from web pages.
Try the page below it contains several different types that should all play with vget or web video caster.
http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html
Open the page then select share from the menu options in your browser, select vget, you should see the orange download arrow for each video link. Click any then select mxplayer.
For web video caster, do the same but when clicking the video link, select options then open with.
I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!
spartasr said:
I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your router? Does that mean you are streaming media to your device and then to your TV via mhl? Have you tried playing a media file direct from your device to the TV?
No just streaming media on the tablet and hooking it up to the TV using the MHL cable. I don't know what else to do, I tested my Galaxy S5 and it plays fine, so I know it's not the cables.
EDIT: Yes videos stored locally on the tablet play fine on the TV, the problem only occurs when streaming anything.
How is the tablet connecting to your router, 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
Doesn't your TV support dlna? Most modern tv's do.
I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing
spartasr said:
I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sometimes it helps to switch bands and/or Wi-Fi channels as interference can affect the connection.
Look at your tablet Wi-Fi settings it will tell you which band it is connected to.
Yea I changed channels a while ago and I also changed both DNS' to google's
How are you streaming to your tablet, which app are you using? Does the streamed media play OK on your tablet?
All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.
spartasr said:
All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it's the same playing on your tablet even without mhl?
Sorry had to do a quick test, videos play fine when not connected to the TV. Could it be an incompatibility issue between the TV and/or Soundbar? I know the cables are good because I tested my phone.
So the issue is tab to TV? Have you tried any lower definition movies?
Also does music play OK on its own or still stutter?