Sorry, the Sprint Note 4 unlocked can run LTE on the TMobile network? Apparently it can be rooted and flash custom roms right? Sorry for obvious questions but Im ready to buy one and need to be sure.
Thanks!!
It can be unlocked, but will only work with 4G, not LTE, check the Note 4 questions tab on the sprint section, there was already a thread started a while back ago. T-Mobile will tell you it won't work though, but there are ways around it.
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I was under the impression that you'd actually have to change the modem firmware in order to get a domestic GSM unlock on a Sprint device, if the S5 was any indication. That's where it seems to be locked out.
Since the Note 4 was launched prior to Feb 15, 2015, it's very unlikely Sprint will ever bother with permitting any sort of domestic SIM unlock for it (international is another matter entirely), and that's before we get into the missing LTE bands for full T-Mobile compatibility.
That said, if someone does pull off a working DOMESTIC unlock (T-Mobile, AT&T, MVNOs thereof, etc.), I'd sure like to know about it!
How do you unlock it though?
I know this thread has probably fizzled out or not, but THERE IS a domestic unlock for Sprint Note 4 and all others. It is NOT FREE. However, if one would search and read you will find it. Full data and SMS works perfectly. I have 3 Sprint Note 4's on T-Mobile US.
Ok so I need some advice. I was finally able to root my Galaxy S6 recently with Odin/CF-AutoRoot. Now i've got a few questions before I go any farther. The main reason I wanted to root my phone was in hopes to edit my APN's and get my data working. This galaxy is on Marshmallow, the Sprint/Boost Mobile model. I bought it off ebay, when i first got it I took it to AT&T to get service on it. They got my talk/text working but not data because there was no APN options under Settings/mobile networks/etc. That option was not there. I'm hoping if I flash a rom that will restore my missing APN options.
-I need someone to recommend me a rom. I'm looking for a stable rom, preferable debloated too. I just want the phone to function as it normally should and have the apn options back.
-Also, do I need to install a custom kernal too?
This is the forum for Sprint Galaxy S6. Did you buy the Sprint model or the AT&T model.
From what I understand, they are different.
Sprint is on CDMA network and AT&T is GSM, and the two are not compatible.
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DarkHorse420 said:
Ok so I need some advice. I was finally able to root my Galaxy S6 recently with Odin/CF-AutoRoot. Now i've got a few questions before I go any farther. The main reason I wanted to root my phone was in hopes to edit my APN's and get my data working. This galaxy is on Marshmallow, the Sprint/Boost Mobile model. I bought it off ebay, when i first got it I took it to AT&T to get service on it. They got my talk/text working but not data because there was no APN options under Settings/mobile networks/etc. That option was not there. I'm hoping if I flash a rom that will restore my missing APN options.
-I need someone to recommend me a rom. I'm looking for a stable rom, preferable debloated too. I just want the phone to function as it normally should and have the apn options back.
-Also, do I need to install a custom kernal too?
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It sounds to me like you want to use the Sprint S6 on AT&Ts network. Should be possible. However, I believe it needs to be unlocked first in order to use the GSM bands. This may be one of the issues.
Secondly, I recommend doing everything yourself as there aren't many ROMs available for the Sprint S6, so tweaking everything is something you personally will have to do to make it work on AT&T.
Thirdly, why did you get a Sprint model if you wanted to use it on AT&T? I recommend talking to sprint to help you. Custom kernel has nothing to do with carriers, so using the one you have now will be fine.
IMHO: You should have done your research first. Honestly if you wanted to use it strictly for AT&T then you should have bought an AT&T variant, all your headaches and issues wouldn't exist lol. That being said, what you want is 100% feasible, but not by the average Joe. It requires some tinkering and know how and knowing how to navigate around the device.
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This is the forum for Sprint Galaxy S6. Did you buy the Sprint model or the AT&T model.
From what I understand, they are different.
Sprint is on CDMA network and AT&T is GSM, and the two are not compatible.
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Just an FYI: You are right, but you're not fully right. lol
Sprint and Verizon CDMA phones normally have GSM capabilities for overseas business travel. In order to unlock the GSM bands, you must get the device unlocked, or tell and pay sprint that you are using it overseas. International Unlocking allows for overseas use, Domestic unlocking allows for USA GSM Carrier use. My phone is International and Domestically unlocked thanks to a very kind and generous xda member.
However, a GSM phone will not work on CDMA networks, just cause they lack the hardware. There really isn't a niche for it so they don't make them.
I know they are two diffrent networks with CDMA & GSM. Some phones now cover both. I've read the note 4 was working like this. I'm curious of a couple things.
1. Is it really possible? To go from at&t to verizon with a note wdge.
2. If so, could you flash a verizon rom onto the at&t note edge to have all the verizon stuff?
Well I haven't been looking into this
But from first-hand experience, if you do
Only talk and text messages will work
Anything data-based will not work as the AT&T Note Edge does not have the correct radios to actually get data
You need the CDMA radios to actually use data
and secondly, the AT&T Note Edge (Same with the Note 4) has been bootloader locked since the release of the phone
Meaning the AT&T Note Edge cannot be modified system-wise
We are still trying to get stable temp-root
Not a good sight
And the Verizon Note 4 (Edge as well) have been bootloader unlocked since April of last year
Meaning customization level is higher than the AT&T variant
Now thing is, the Verizon variant is bootloader locked by default
and you need to have a good amount of knowledge of ADB to actually unlock it
and a lot of patience
but the community is there to help you out with any of your questions
As long as the phone has the Samsung eMMC
So why bother with the AT&T variant and just go get the Verizon variant
Bootloader unlocked, and correct radios
Seems like a plus to me
and the Verizon variant has GSM radios so it can work with AT&T and T-Mobile, and yes
It is unlocked by default so you don't need to contact Verizon to unlock the phone
Verizon Note Edge on TMOBILE
What will I need to do in order for my Samsung Verizon Note Edge to receive Data LTE and MMS fully on the Tmobile Network......?
akosibushman777 said:
What will I need to do in order for my Samsung Verizon Note Edge to receive Data LTE and MMS fully on the Tmobile Network......?
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All you need is to first of all
Find the APN settings for your specific carrier
After you do, place the SIM card in and then go to the settings, Mobile Networks, APN settings, and then set it up how it is intended to be
Dear Friends,
Hope everyone is well. As a side effect of having wealth of knowledge, reading through the forums here I believe the answer to my question is still, "yes" however, I would still like to confirm and make sure:
If I buy a Verizon Note 8 today, whether it's from Ebay, Swappa, Craigslist and etc and whether the user did or did NOT update to the latest Bootloader version and firmware version (Oreo)... Is it still possible to use some combination of firmware, Bootloader, CSC and etc to convert the Verizon Note to an AT&T Note or the unbranded US Note 8 and still have unrestricted, full functionality on AT&T?
If, yes, indeed, can you please point me to the right guide and files so that I can go through my purchase?
Appreciate your help in advance!
Any input, friends? Trying to buy a Note 8 based on your expert opinions ?... Thanks!
I converted my VZW note 8 to AT&T and used it flawlessly for a few months. This was before Oreo was released. I've since switched it back to VZW.
While on AT&T, volte & wifi calling worked as well.
ProFragger said:
Any input, friends? Trying to buy a Note 8 based on your expert opinions ?... Thanks!
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It is always best to get the carrier brand you intend to be on....
But if you can't pass on a deal, yes you can follow switching carrier guide to turn a Verizon Note into an ATT Note....
On the one hand if you need to move between carriers or around the world, it be better to get the Verizon phone even for the AT&T network because it gives you CDMA + Quad-Band GSM. If you are going to stick with one carrier, if you get a newer phone, it will probably support 100% of their current and soon-to-be bands while the Verizon might only support 90%. That might make a difference in aggregation. Depending on the company, they might not allow you to use aggregation or VOLTE or Wi-Fi calling without their branded phone, although ajent above has had luck with at least 2 out of 3 of those by using a Verizon phone on an AT&T network.
I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...
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I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...
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If you live in the US I think the unlocked version is just a SIM unlock. I think it is still the snapdragon version. Which means it will not be bootloader unlocked. I think you have to get the exynos version from an online retailer.
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I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...
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Note 9 was able to do this and I did it. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't be able o do it in Note 10+ once carrier firmware become available to be downloaded.
I pre-ordered the unlocked version myself and I have AT&T so it should be as easy as waiting for the carrier firmwares to become available on SamMobile and flashing with Odin. My interest is now with DeX supported with microsoft if Odin is even neccessary to flash firmwares anymore?
from what i can see on sprint i think they are using the qualcomm chip, i could be wrong, its labeled as SDM 855 Octa-Core SDR8150 and when searching that in google qualcomm documentation on the 855 pops up
Very curious about this myself. I preordered the unlocked version because that gave me more value for my trade in. I'm curious if I get the unlocked version and flash TMobile carrier software. Will I then get tmobile updates ota?
It's been the same for years now, hardware wise phones are the same, you'll need princey odin to flash unlocked/carrier firmwares. I buy unlocked and flash the carrier unlocked firmware. No bloat but it has the carrier specific radio. I prefer the native caller Id, no bloat, and the RTT over the carrier bloat and video calling. Google duo is better anyway
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It's been the same for years now, hardware wise phones are the same, you'll need princey odin to flash unlocked/carrier firmwares. I buy unlocked and flash the carrier unlocked firmware. No bloat but it has the carrier specific radio. I prefer the native caller Id, no bloat, and the RTT over the carrier bloat and video calling. Google duo is better anyway
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Are you TMO or ATT? I have accounts with both.
I know WiFi Calling, which is what I really need as far as carrier goes, is usually more difficult with ATT.
If you are TMO can you get WFC to work without flashing carrier?
How long do you usually have to wait for the carrier firmware to come out?
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Are you TMO or ATT? I have accounts with both.
I know WiFi Calling, which is what I really need as far as carrier goes, is usually more difficult with ATT.
If you are TMO can you get WFC to work without flashing carrier?
How long do you usually have to wait for the carrier firmware to come out?
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Wifi calling has no issues on unlocked firmware with tmo. At&t I'm not sure but if you flash the att csc and and cp files, I do believe that's all it takes. I believe you need to flash the at&T AP file.
My Note 9 is unlocked. Using on T-MOBILE with no issues with WiFi calling. I am not able to use the stock visual voicemail though which I would prefer. With T-MOBILE I'm forced to use their visual voicemail which really sucks. Does anyone else know if they're is a way to use the stock visual voicemail on T-Mobile?
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My Note 9 is unlocked. Using on T-MOBILE with no issues with WiFi calling. I am not able to use the stock visual voicemail though which I would prefer. With T-MOBILE I'm forced to use their visual voicemail which really sucks. Does anyone else know if they're is a way to use the stock visual voicemail on T-Mobile?
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I saw posts that allow you to do that if you flash carrier firmware
I just use Google Voice and forward unanswered calls to there
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I saw posts that allow you to do that if you flash carrier firmware
I just use Google Voice and forward unanswered calls to there
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When I inserted my SIM it appeared to automatically install the T-Mo firmware, but that's the problem.; it forces me to use the T-Mo VM (which absolutely sucks) and not able to use the Samsung VM which is pretty nice. I had previously used the Note 9 on Verizon with my work SIM and I was able to use the stock VM. When I switched to T-Mo it forced me to use the T-Mo VM. I can't see a way to get back to the stock VM unless I'm missing something...
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When I inserted my SIM it appeared to automatically install the T-Mo firmware, but that's the problem.; it forces me to use the T-Mo VM (which absolutely sucks) and not able to use the Samsung VM which is pretty nice. I had previously used the Note 9 on Verizon with my work SIM and I was able to use the stock VM. When I switched to T-Mo it forced me to use the T-Mo VM. I can't see a way to get back to the stock VM unless I'm missing something...
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I go into the phone app call or SIM settings and find the call forwarding settings:
Then I do they conditional forwarding to my Google Voice number (I then, after setting up Google Voice, turn on Do Not Disturb for Google Voice, so I don't get there phone ringing twice)
Then GV serves as my VM
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If you live in the US I think the unlocked version is just a SIM unlock. I think it is still the snapdragon version. Which means it will not be bootloader unlocked. I think you have to get the exynos version from an online retailer.
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^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.
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^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.
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This is great advice ..... IF ..... you are looking to root and/ or do custom ROMs. But having done every release S9+/Note9/S10+ with Exynos it's NOT always that easy to get the CSC stuff right and working (and the development is often done by people who could care less about NA CSC because they don't live there).
Root / Unlocked bootloader = the Exynos device, like you said.
So what appears to be the answer (for the thread, assuming no root) after looking at all the answers in this and a couple of other threads is that the Unlocked US Samsung device is the same (or can, in worst case scenario, by Odin flashing carrier firmware, be made to do) device functionally as the carrier devices --- calling features, etc.
For me, the difference was going to be $300 bigger discount.
Apo11on said:
^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.
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That's only true if you want to unlock the bootloader and root. The OP was merely asking about flashing carrier firmware on the US Unlocked version, which does not require root or an unlocked bootloader.
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This is great advice ..... IF ..... you are looking to root and/ or do custom ROMs. But having done every release S9+/Note9/S10+ with Exynos it's NOT always that easy to get the CSC stuff right and working (and the development is often done by people who could care less about NA CSC because they don't live there).
Root / Unlocked bootloader = the Exynos device, like you said.
So what appears to be the answer (for the thread, assuming no root) after looking at all the answers in this and a couple of other threads is that the Unlocked US Samsung device is the same (or can, in worst case scenario, by Odin flashing carrier firmware, be made to do) device functionally as the carrier devices --- calling features, etc.
For me, the difference was going to be $300 bigger discount.
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the bigger trade in value was a deciding factor as well for me...Well we weill see how it goes on the 23rd
I want to be able to root and flash TWRP on my Note 10+, but when i did this on my Note 8 i bought the N950N which was the korean exynos version and CRC support for t-mobile sucked ass, i want to make sure
A) what model do i buy for
- Rooting and stuff
- and best t-mobile network compatibility without going through all the dumb stuff
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the bigger trade in value was a deciding factor as well for me...Well we weill see how it goes on the 23rd
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Same here. When Samsung stopped hobbling the OS, and added more features I didn't need root anymore. The extra $300 was my deciding factor. I have the unlocked Note 9. The only thing I have noticed aside from slower updates is that the camera sound can't be turned off independent of the global phone sound. Everything else works fine and I haven't noticed anything useful missing.
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That's only true if you want to unlock the bootloader and root. The OP was merely asking about flashing carrier firmware on the US Unlocked version, which does not require root or an unlocked bootloader.
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I was actually giving advice to all folk, considering purchasing, not just the OP....Also, just curious - how do you Samsung's locked bootloader on the unlocked Note (I hope you know 'unlocked' means SIM unlocked only) will accept firmware, signed by T-Mobile? It's not a given Samsung original bootloader, untainted by carrier branded modifications, accepts carrier signed ROMs. You may need to be using T-Mobile version of the bootloader, for it to accept T-Mobile signed images.