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is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen
I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).
It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
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Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?
I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
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A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.
Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
JD
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I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
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Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman
sHaHiN786 said:
Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman
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I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Does this completely void the warranty though? Just read it on the Cyanogen thread.
Regards.
Thanks added.
In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
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I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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nice screens, what clock is that?
rosswaa said:
nice screens, what clock is that?
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It's called SiMiclock.
nickhammond121 said:
In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Cheers. Foolish me.
ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks
Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!
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Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks
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Glad you like cyanogen
Theme,icons and wallpapers are here,use 200dpi version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859548
using launcher pro and launcher pro icons ,off market.
splash screen and how to apply them are here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855490&page=58
Before you install the theme use root explorer and copy system/media/bootanimation.zip to your sd card .
install the theme then copy back bootanimation.zip.
bookmark home off the market.
enjoy.
SW7 said:
Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!
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sync with google instead ,then you will have np no sense on cyanogen.
If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...
is cyanogen best rom for now?
DarkVasyaK said:
is cyanogen best rom for now?
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Personaly, I like the Sparta rom more (vanilla android + some sense interfaces). But cyanogen is good to. Hell, everything is better then sense!
rixsta said:
If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...
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Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??
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Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??
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Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....
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Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....
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I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?
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I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?
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Yes, I'd like to understand the differences as well.
Apart form some enthusiastic but not very informative "CM blows Sense to sh1t!" statements, I haven't seen any clear explanation of what the benefits of CM are? If it is simply the removal of Sense then that is a subjective improvement. Coming from a Magic (on CM) I know that many people over there spent their efforts getting Sense to work on that handset. Personally, I like Sense, it is clean and has a number of useful or flashy widgets and with the hardware of the DHD it is smooth and fast. I've rooted my DHD to Leedroid (mainly because I can't stop tinkering) but I'm holding from CM much as i liked it on the Magic because I just can't see the advantages..
Maybe someone could explain them for the more nooby amongst us?
Can you have more/less screens?
Can you organise you apps? Hide them?
Landscape home?
A list would be nice.
Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.
derkie said:
Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.
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Yep. Just tried CM6 and whilst there is nothing wrong with it all, and it is possibly faster than stock, I just can't be ar$ed with tweaking all the settings to get the phone to have a bit of uniformity in its looks and operation.
Sense might be a bit bloated, but you don't need to use it and on the DHD it runs fine.
I think it is more of a aesthetic thing than anything else.
Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
What would you Sense ROM's guys/gals have to add or say to this ?
In my opinion, some roms might have a few tweaks in them but most of the roms that I see now are just themed stock roms.
I don't want to seem like I'm not giving credit to the devs for everything they do, but it seems like many "roms" should just be in the theme section as they are just built off some other devs work.
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Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
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You are not alone and Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5 is one of my favorites and IS my favorite Sense rom.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
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First of all, understand that his "stock phone" is Sense-based. HTC Sense comes default on the EVO 4G. Anyway, your brother seems to be totally satisfied with what he has and has no plans to switch. If that is the case, let him be. If he wasn't impressed with the classy and elegant look of Myn's rom then I doubt he'll be convinced to change from the stock Sense look....
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Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
cloud007 said:
Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
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Sure, but what kinda tweaks are we talking about? Thats what Im asking more or less.
CM for instance, to me, feels like a stock AOSP rom with their custom Kernel. They obviously did a good bit more by customizing the kernel n such, but as I said before... I could just flash their kernel + use whatever themes I want, no?
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Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
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My understanding is that battery indicator, boot animations, etc fall into the theme category.
Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
Sense is a launcher. There are launcher replacements such as LauncherPro, ADW, and SPB Shell 3D. LauncherPro and ADW are more a lot faster than HTC is. LauncherPro has widgets for calendar and Friends which is similar to Sense. Beautiful widgets can give you a Sense like clock and weather animations.
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Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
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Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.
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Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them made it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Good post, I agree
dougjamal said:
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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I also totally agree with this. It should also be noted that along with an upgraded sense, some of these other ROMs give you an update to Gingerbread. Just something else to take into consideration when it comes to reasons for switching ROMs.
cloud007 said:
Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.[/QUOTE]
In the past yes. I was on a sense based ROM for awhile but constantly switched between that and CM. Finally when CM7 reverse engineered 4G and HDMI, I've been rocking that out like it's going out of style. I just love how speedy and responsive it is. Thought honestly, in my opinion, if you put enough widgets and crap on the home screens like there are in Sense based ROMs the speed will even out. Just from what I've experienced though.
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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calypso666 said:
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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I would personally like this as well, and I doubt we're alone... (And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
knoxploration said:
(And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
Hopefully the device is popular enough for a CM9 official release.
Hopefully soon..that way I can update all my black&cyan themed gapp's
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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There is "ics" roms based on Sense, that is all sense apps are replaced with ICS apps except where they are better (camera and album for instance) but everything else is ICS. And it works great, i have tested some of these on my evo (wich doesnt even have official ICS yet) so it is possible.
but those are sense based and the advantage is that all hardware works as well as stock but if you want pure AOSP you have to wait a month or two, or more, before a proper aosp kernel and compile from aosp is made.
Has htc released kernel-source for one x yet?
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
I hope so. S
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
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Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
mattman83 said:
Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
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In ICS you can dissable apps (essentialy uninstalling apps but they come back after a whipe) like for instance 3'rd party music-apps like soundhound etc.
But sense is there. rosie, clock app etc.
But most apps can also be added back from ICS from what i have seen, like clock, alarm, calendar, e-mail etc and thuss making a sense device "aosp" like without acctualy removing things you need from a sense based rom like binary drivers.
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
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What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
Calibrae said:
What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
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There is something called a framework. You can't use sense Widgets on another launcher because of it.
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Again, I wasn't referring to Sense apps. This is my first HTC phone; most other manufacturers usually bundle stock apps, I know HTC is bundling some free versions like TuneIn, but don't know if they also bundle any paid ones worth having. Those are what I'm referring to, NOT Sense.
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I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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KamikaZeeFu said:
I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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Not to belabor the point already raised in this thread, but the Sense Camera cannot be ported over to any other ROM. As previously mentioned, the Sense Camera is one of the apps that are inextricably tied to the overall Sense framework. You need to have a Sense-based ROM for the Sense Camera to work.
Just to save any potential heartache for people hoping to port it over to an AOSP-based ROM. Too many tears have been shed already-- many of them mine :]
I hope this happens...The day this ROM comes out for HTC ONE X...is the day i buy it!
OR SGS 3..whichever is quicker!
The ARHD Rom has a lite version stripped from sense.. try that in the development section
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Just to clarify here, there's "senseless" and then there's "AOSP".
Senseless is based on HTC stock rom but with many HTC apps removed and replaced with ICS stock. Many of the apps are better however you still have the same underlying framework, it's still a htc sense rom at the core.
AOSP is built from google source, there's not one line of sense in it. It's leaner, meaner, faster, better on battery, but it'll take alot longer to get it running properly. It WILL NOT support most HTC apps, particuarly the camera as these all tie into the HTC core (which doesn't exist in AOSP).
You cannot remove sense from a HTC rom, you can just remove the apps. It's like chopping the top off a weed but leaving the roots. You can't see it, but you still have weeds
M.
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
PoopTossnApe said:
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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If you had a proper AOSP rom (like CM9, AOKP etc) then the camera would work to take photos and videos, but none of the dual record/high speed type stuff is likely to work. There may even be problems in early builds just trying to get it working, a dedicated imaging chip is quite unusual and depends on what architectural changes there are.
And, if you don't know what I'm talking about with senseless vs aosp, how can you even know that you *need* vanilla ics??
M.
I was wondering, are there any custom 7.1.x roms that do not contain the pixel launcher? I'm not the biggest fan of the pixel launcher (even though it looks great), I've wanted the stock launcher and as roms move forward using the pixel launcher as their stock launcher, i was wondering if there was any custom roms with substantial features without the pixel launcher, thanks.
niklus101 said:
I was wondering, are there any custom 7.1.x roms that do not contain the pixel launcher? I'm not the biggest fan of the pixel launcher (even though it looks great), I've wanted the stock launcher and as roms move forward using the pixel launcher as their stock launcher, i was wondering if there was any custom roms with substantial features without the pixel launcher, thanks.
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Why wouldn't you just install a custom launcher and use that? Even though a ROM comes with the pixel launcher, you're not forced to use it.
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jerethi said:
Why wouldn't you just install a custom launcher and use that? Even though a ROM comes with the pixel launcher, you're not forced to use it.
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I know this, but i really liked launcher3 and the google now simplicity built into the rom, rather than having to install a secondary launcher, I'm not complaining here, I'm just wondering if any of theses roms are out there by getting community feedback instead of flashing every 7.1 rom available atm.
niklus101 said:
I know this, but i really liked launcher3 and the google now simplicity built into the rom, rather than having to install a secondary launcher, I'm not complaining here, I'm just wondering if any of theses roms are out there by getting community feedback instead of flashing every 7.1 rom available atm.
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Just recovered your favorite launcher apk put the apk launcher you want in system / app or priv-app
Enjoy