I have a LG G3 running stock M 6.0
I'm trying to increase my 16GB flash size or at least move my big apps to my external SD.
I did OK with Spotify and some others, but few others (like some games) are not moving their data to my external sd.
I have problems with those apps detecting my Internal Storage as my external SD card due to the fact that the Android mounts the internal storage in
/sdcard/
linked to some other folder
/storage/emulated/0
while my real external SD card is actually mounted on
/storage/7FB0-1DEE/
What on the earth is this thing calling my internal storage, sdcard, and my external sdcard to some strange mounted folder with a weird code that of course my apps have no idea wth is that...
Any ideas how to workaround that? Any guidelines will be very much appreciate it.
-- JJ
PD. I don't want to use any App2SD or FolderMount rooted 3rd parties to create logical links/shortcuts and "pretent" or make thing the app the files are on the internal storage, when they are on the external sd. That thing works OK. I rooted my stock FW and tested it that way, but I dont want my phone to have root access.
PD2. I installed RR582-Nougat711 to test this Ext SD adoption (which is not available on G3 Stock M 6.0). It sort of worked OK but I lost my ext sdcard when connecting it to my PC. I'm not willing to make my external sd part of the internal storage anymore. That think is awkward, encrypting my card and losing portability to MTP transfer.
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Hello again everyone,
Today while looking at settings-->"SD and Phone Storage", Astro File manager and talking with a friend thats using a capivate phone i was wonderning about the phones internal storage and its relation to the SD card.
Is the internal Phone storage the same as the SD card except obvously you cant upgrade or remove the phone storage?
If a ROM upgrade or different ROM install is preformed will i loose the files on the Internal Phone storage?
Thanks
NO, you will not loose your files on your internal storage by flashing a ROM. What might happen is the ROM doesn't yet support internal storage (most do now). Then you would not be able to access or use the internal storage even though the files are there. Like others have said make sure you read the channel logs and known issues log to see if the rom does support the internal storage. I hope this helps.
Great!
Thanks
I have my device set to save pictures to the SD card. I took a 20 burst shot to make some space be used.
I use FTP to access my SD card, the folder I access is /sdcard. That is also the folder I open in ES file explorer.
For pictures, they are saved in /sdcard/dcim
All makes sense, right?
Now, in the settings, I see:
http://i.imgur.com/W43Hg.png
http://i.imgur.com/uhQ0U.png
So really, my SD card is not used by anything, also, the internal storage seems to be 10GB.
So there is a fake SDcard 6GB big? Which is apparently the only one I can access?
How do I use my REAL SD card for pictures saving? And what is even the location of the actual SD card?
This all seems really strange to me. In my previous phone (HTC EVO3D) there was just the root folder, which had an sdcard folder, which was the actual SDcard. I wonder why there is a fake SDcard in this device? Anyone that can explain this?
Also, it is possible to have it like this:?
Main storage: 16gb
SDcard storage: 32gb, location of this: /sdcard
That would make SO MUCH more sense.
Have you tried /storage/extSdCard ?
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D3_ said:
Have you tried /storage/extSdCard ?
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That is correct, that is indeed the place of my external SD.
I did some testing, and found out:
Normal pictures are saved on the actual sd: /storage/extSdCard/DCIM
Burst shots are saved on the "fake" /sdcard/DCIM
I guess burst shots need more speed then my class10 sd? STUPID!
So again back to the other questions: why is this? And is there any way to combine this? THIS SUCKS for storage organization via FTP etc, also, downloaded game data is saved to the fake sd, which is again STUPID. Some games take 1gb or more. What if I need more then 6gb of apps/gamedata storage? WHY did they do it this way? This REALLY frustrates me already.
Somebody please tell me there is some way to make the actual SD the default SD.
On older (Gingerbread) Android devices there was internal storage, and the sd card that you plugged in was "sdcard". On almost all newer devices there are actually three or more places things are stored:
internal (~2gb depending on the device, holds the android system, "personal" which stores phone info like contacts. This is what you flash/odin stuff to)
sdcard (Looks like any sdcard to android. Usually mounted to /mnt/sdcard. This is the "internal" sd card, built into your device)
sdcard 2 (The external sd card you put into the sd card slot. Usually mounted to /mnt/extSdCard, as noted above)
There are a few ways this is implemented. The internal sd card might be partitioned, with "internal" being on the first partition and "sdcard" on the second. This way you can format the internal sdcard without bricking your device.
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On older (Gingerbread) Android devices there was internal storage, and the sd card that you plugged in was "sdcard". On almost all newer devices there are actually three or more places things are stored:
internal (~2gb depending on the device, holds the android system, "personal" which stores phone info like contacts. This is what you flash/odin stuff to)
sdcard (Looks like any sdcard to android. Usually mounted to /mnt/sdcard. This is the "internal" sd card, built into your device)
sdcard 2 (The external sd card you put into the sd card slot. Usually mounted to /mnt/extSdCard, as noted above)
There are a few ways this is implemented. The internal sd card might be partitioned, with "internal" being on the first partition and "sdcard" on the second. This way you can format the internal sdcard without bricking your device.
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But that sucks? I also just noticed moving apps to sd is no longer an option. But how about gamedata? GTA3 takes 1GB. Some games take 2GB, but the only place to put those apps is in the internal 10GB storage? And pictures are storable on external SD, but not burst shots, which are saved in the internal SD? Stupid.
I just can't imagine any way this is positive.
Apparently it's a jellybean limitation - it's really putting me off ATM - there are many threads complaining about this feature but most feel that it is not going to change.
This next bit is all from my reading (I do not use android yet because of this storage holdup):
Apparently Google either doesn't want us to, or can't, use SD cards to store apps etc (makes sense - too easy to pirate etc) but why codes encrypting them to your device can't be included I don't know. Due to something to do with the file structure, particularly of the SGS3 and SGNII, JB can't/won't link to them. There are work rounds - nearly all (if not all) of which require rooting - they do work (according to reports) - just search the xda SGNII forum to find many posts on this. Unfortunately, even App2SD can't move the apps due to this file structure (this bit is samsung design)
For me it's a real shame, I am a Bit of an app addict, and, although I don't have many games (use mostly productivity apps) the game I do get are the "console games" which have a large footprint and larger installation files - I'd fill 16GB in a day. So I'm having to make a choice - 16GB and root, wait for the 32GB (looks likely the 64GB will never make international release) or just not bother at all. Ill probably go 16GB and root as it would save me a fortune on contract (due to Tethering feature). Shame really, for me, 90% of the attraction of android was "unlimited" storage - it still is, but just a bit more difficult to get.
Didn't know about burst shot storage (annoying but can see why) - presumably you can transfer them to external SD afterward if needed?
Snote only saves on the internal SD too!
Hey I just put in a 64gb microsd and formated it. It shows up mounted and avaliable space but I cant view the photos I had on it on my phone. When I connect it I get to see them on my computer. So how do I access extsdcard
Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums so please go easy. I'm not even sure if this is the right place to post about the n7102 because there's no section for this phone.
Basically, my problem is that I've recently run out of space on n7102. I cannot download more apps from the Google Play Store. I have tried using Lucky Patcher to remove bug fixes and also tried deleting dalvik-cache, but I think that fixes an entirely different problem.
My device has the following storage spaces:
Phone storage: 500mb
Internal storage: 2gb
External SD card: 16gb
For some reason, the phone writes to the external sd card where I store my media files. However, the internal storage is not even used at the moment. Right now, some apps are saved to the external sd card so my widgets take a while to load on startup. I think this might be because I wiped reformatted my internal memory card after i reformatted my external sd card through Settings > Apps.
I want to know if it is possible to:
1. repartition the phone storage (500mb) to include the unused 2 gb internal storage (total 2.5gb); or
2. swap these two partitions (phone storage 2 gb, internal storage 2.5gb)
I do not want to make a partition on my external sd card to extend my phone storage to use as data
I've looked on the web and this is what I have found:
- MT6577 2GB data repartition with int2ext: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914184
- Swapping internal and external sd card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
- Mounting /data partition onto the internal storage space: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648411
I've looked at a lot more pages concerning issues similar to this, but a lot of the time they use phone storage/internal storage/external sd storage, etc., interchangably. It can get quite confusing. I understand that android sees its internal storage and external storage space the same.
I've also read about the file "Mt657xRepartition_EN.rar" and wonder if it can be used on the n7102 without any problems.
Anyhow, thanks for reading this. If you can help, please do. I appreciate it. I only recently got this phone and have been tinkering with it the past few days. Before, I had been using an Xperia U that had 2 GB of phone storage vs the n7102's 500mb of phone storage so I have not run into this problem before.
Cheers.
[UPDATE] I am not sure but the two internal storage spaces may not be merged. I might have to try to use link2sd between these two for apps and save the external sd card for personal storage use.
Any way to truly move apps to the external SD card?
I have just recnetly learned that moving apps "to the SD card" in the settings>apps menu doesnt truly move them to the external SD card.
Why is that?
I dont have many apps yet, but it seems the apps i do have slowly get larger and larger as i use them and they save user data. (game progress for example).
Id like to know that I could at least move things that i dont care how fast they load to a truly external SD card (along with my wallpapers, ringtones, etc)
Even if theres a manual way via USB, thats cool. Just hoping someone with more than about a months worth of experience with a captivate glide (or really, i guess any phone that by default wont let you) could give some advice.
thanks!
Pawprints1986 said:
Any way to truly move apps to the external SD card?
I have just recnetly learned that moving apps "to the SD card" in the settings>apps menu doesnt truly move them to the external SD card.
Why is that?
I dont have many apps yet, but it seems the apps i do have slowly get larger and larger as i use them and they save user data. (game progress for example).
Id like to know that I could at least move things that i dont care how fast they load to a truly external SD card (along with my wallpapers, ringtones, etc)
Even if theres a manual way via USB, thats cool. Just hoping someone with more than about a months worth of experience with a captivate glide (or really, i guess any phone that by default wont let you) could give some advice.
thanks!
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You have sd card integrated to the board, its not true sd card. You can swap internal sd to external sd, then you can use same move function to use external micro sd card as application storage.
bubor said:
You have sd card integrated to the board, its not true sd card. You can swap internal sd to external sd, then you can use same move function to use external micro sd card as application storage.
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So theres no way to just manually tell it to move there without messing up whats already on the internal storage?
The Android system still has no option to move app to external sd. You can copy everything from internal (built-in) sd to external and apply change-fstab.zip to make Android think that your external sd is internal and vice versa. Works on every 4.4 rom. No performance drawbacks if using class 10 sd card. Worked for me flawlessly and thanks to bubor for this great feature.
And for manually... There's an app called Link2SD. It's some sort of workaround. You make second partition on your external SD and move apps there, leaving links for Android system on your internal storage. You can find it in google market, be sure to read instructions first.
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The Android system still has no option to move app to external sd. You can copy everything from internal (built-in) sd to external and apply change-fstab.zip to make Android think that your external sd is internal and vice versa. Works on every 4.4 rom. No performance drawbacks if using class 10 sd card. Worked for me flawlessly and thanks to bubor for this great feature.
And for manually... There's an app called Link2SD. It's some sort of workaround. You make second partition on your external SD and move apps there, leaving links for Android system on your internal storage. You can find it in google market, be sure to read instructions first.
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I remember trying link2sd on a friends tablet recently. it recognized certain apps as moveable, but when i actually tried to move them (on an SD that i had already partitioned) it said failure every time.
But im not sure i want to switch my storage entirely. I would just like to allow, say another 4 gigs on my SD card (with the other 4 being for wallpapers, ringtones, etc). i have an 8 gig card right now.
Then you should try link2sd here. Basically, no other options, unless you wish to emulate Link2SD work with some scripts and move apps manually. I saw some patches for Lenovo phones to combine internal storage or something like that, but they will not work on Glide obviously.
On all my other devices I was able to make the system believe the internal memory is the external SDcard... and that my external SD card was the internal memory
so I had a 64 GB tablet.
Never had any issues or obvious loss of speed...
Now I have installed my standard apps and the game Xcom and 16 GB are used up... can't move any more to the SD
Any way to do this on the P605 with 4.4.2?
I'm towelrooted
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I believe you can use the app Foldermount to do that, or manually relink the drives via Terminal.
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As the previous post suggested, get the paid version of foldermount and you can pretty much move (i.e. link) any folder to the SD card without android throwing a fit. I linked the Downloads folder and all of my game obb folders to the SD card and I have plenty of space left on the internal storage now.
FolderMount Problem
Okay i have FolderMount on my android 4.4.2, but when i choose to open ''storage/sdcard1 or sdcard0'' it doesn't show nothing inside (on the foldermount) ! HELP ?! D:
I am confused. What is the point of fooling the system into believing that the external sdcard is the internal memory? I heard that the sdcard is slower than internal one.
Is FolderMount an app to work around the KitKit unable to save to sdcard issue?
petercohen said:
I am confused. What is the point of fooling the system into believing that the external sdcard is the internal memory? I heard that the sdcard is slower than internal one.
Is FolderMount an app to work around the KitKit unable to save to sdcard issue?
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Ive been using folder mount since it came out.It does not make anything slower for me.I have 128gb micro sd card and it runs fine.I have alot of games and most are over a gig.With folder mount im able to put everything on external microsd card and play the games from there.I only have 16gb on tablet with about 30 gb worth of game data, so without foldermount I wouldn't be able to fit all the games on tablet. That's why its good to fool the sytem. Hope some of that helped you better understand.