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According to customer care of LG, there would'nt be any updates for MS428 (T-Mobile). I think I can conclude no Nougat for K10?!
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Sad, but it makes sense..
Since they're going to release a new k10 with nougat pre-installed in it, my guess is that they will do this to all upcoming midrange particularly those with mediatek chips..
They're gonna refresh the old model with little hardware upgrade (as an excuse to the customers) and with the latest OS. then make the first gen. Users (like us) feel like abandoned and make us BUY for an upgrade...
I doubt we'd get the vulkan API since it doesn't support our chip anyway, if ever they decide to give an OS upgrade that is.
I'm really disappointed with this, as this is my first (and last) LG phone.. on the other hand, I'm glad that this happened because I was planning to get a flag ship from them but instead got k10 just to see how they handle mid range.. I'm going back to xperia, at least, Sony is better with updates (I used to have Z1)
It's crap anyway. My wife came home with one the other day after being talked into it at her local phone shop and it's the 2017 version with Nougat. The homescreens are locked down. Either all apps spread across 3 or 4 screens with no app drawer, 2 home screens with an app drawer with no way to add more screens or A Home launcher where you can add up to 4 screens I think.
Also no chromecast screen mirroring built in. It's a damn part of the O/S I thought! It is on All my Moto marshmallow and nougat devices anyway. The only casting option on the K10 are if the app you're using like youtube have a cast option.
mrmond said:
It's crap anyway. My wife came home with one the other day after being talked into it at her local phone shop and it's the 2017 version with Nougat. The homescreens are locked down. Either all apps spread across 3 or 4 screens with no app drawer, 2 home screens with an app drawer with no way to add more screens or A Home launcher where you can add up to 4 screens I think.
Also no chromecast screen mirroring built in. It's a damn part of the O/S I thought! It is on All my Moto marshmallow and nougat devices anyway. The only casting option on the K10 are if the app you're using like youtube have a cast option.
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You call it crap because you don't like launcher, for God's sake just install another one from store.
About cast, I think that feature is available in stock Android that's why you have it on Motorola, and LG ux is not stock, if they have Chromecast it's available only on flagships, this is why these phones are called mid-range, however it should be possible to overcome this with some apps from store.
I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be issuing a Nougat update for either the Qualcomm or Mediatek variants, given how the 2017 edition has taken its place.
Yet they DID release Nougat for the T-Mobile, AT&T, and MetroPCS variants of this phone.
GuyInDogSuit said:
Yet they DID release Nougat for the T-Mobile, AT&T, and MetroPCS variants of this phone.
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Well they suck too. Battery (after performing a factory reset) is worse, and it feels like the OS is using more CPU than before.
Related
The latest Android treatment is not too far for Samsung's Galaxy branded phones, as a leaked roadmap reveals the rollout status for them. While Galaxy phones capable of receiving Marshmallow surfaced earlier, we now have an apparent timeline for the rollout.
An internal document obtained and shared by TimesNews suggests that Samsung will make the update available in phases. The first phase includes Samsung's high-end flagship Galaxy models such as Note 5, S6 Edge+, S6, S6 Edge, Note 4, Note edge, S5 and Galaxy Alpha. The update has been approved for a majority of the phones in this list expect the S5 and Alpha which are still waiting to receive approval.
As for an estimated time of arrival of Android Marshmallow, the rollout starts with Note 5 and S6 Edge+ in December whereas owners of S6 can S6 Edge might expect it in January 2016. The rollout for Note 4 and its curved screen variant Note edge is slated in February
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Sweet! But as usual, initial rls will be buggy
I have an sm-g9287 anyone know when it will arrive? possibly same time as sm-g928?
Apparently it's now been put back to January 2016
jonny68 said:
Apparently it's now been put back to January 2016
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Source??
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I still hope that it will arrive in December.
January sounds more reasonable. Its the time most OEMs will start delivering 6.0 Well I guess I prefer to wait a bit longer for a smoother experience and fewer bugs I guess.
I'm leaking right now.
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I'm leaking right now.
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What ???
From the leaked photos I didn't like the blur effects. Some people didn't like the white color on the notification drawer but I really liked it. Its much more cleaner now and more materialistic. But some other parts are reminding me of iOS. Surprise eh? I wish Samsung could adopt the material design in every aspect of TW and not creating these hybrids. From the other side the Marshmallow TW solved the memory management problem according to the reports and it is smoother and faster now so I can't wait to get it. Starting next year though our next Android update will take months to arrive just like S5 now.
we have what you call those that are lucky to have you
it is possible to be buggy
Is this more of thing for OEM companies not going to update their snapdragon 800/801 to nougat (not that I would expect any of these older devices with this soc to get updated anyway), or is this something that any developer won't be able to get around?
Supposedly those using CM13 are already stuck at KitKat level Drivers. Or at least that's what I've been told in a different Thread. So the imedimmediate thought is that it might be possible to get 'round it, in a similar fashion. But, I gather it's still not fully known just what kinda hit the Device would take, given the lack of unoptimized Drivers.
AFAIK: Qualcomm have had their hands tied as the MSM8974 (i.e. Snapdragon 800), does not, and will never support the Vulkan API, which is now being fully enforced by Google as the baseline for Nougat compatibility. Since this is more of a MSM8974 thing, and not an OEM thing, there will be a lot of unhappy people with far better supported Devices then ours. Who will be left in the cold by this decision.
But, it's early days yet, and I'm not even sure how far Cyanogen has even gotten with it?
Honestly I wouldn't even expect anything from them too the early days of 2017 at the earliest.
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Is this more of thing for OEM companies not going to update their snapdragon 800/801 to nougat (not that I would expect any of these older devices with this soc to get updated anyway), or is this something that any developer won't be able to get around?
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Crpalmer is working on CM14 So you should get the N flavor very soon.
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I managed to build CM14 for the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (Mondrianwifi).
Camera and bluetooth are not working, everything else seems fine.
If someone wants to try it:
https://mega.nz/#!GA5m2DjR!dhAepnUJKco0KH6hKph2NJ73DefZMJPZCNFEnYaVuUk
Lol everybods is asking about android 7 but when @jmga manages to compile a pritty good build nobody seems to care
I'm just waiting for the Tab Pro 10.1, but great that 8.4 seems to be working.
jmga said:
I managed to build CM14 for the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (Mondrianwifi).
Camera and bluetooth are not working, everything else seems fine.
If someone wants to try it:
https://mega.nz/#!GA5m2DjR!dhAepnUJKco0KH6hKph2NJ73DefZMJPZCNFEnYaVuUk
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Have you tested camera with Google Camera or Open Camera? I've seen other CM14 ROMs where camera only worked with one of those camera applications.
jrc2 said:
Have you tested camera with Google Camera or Open Camera? I've seen other CM14 ROMs where camera only worked with one of those camera applications.
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I just tested Open Camera and it isn't working.
jmga said:
I just tested Open Camera and it isn't working.
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Could you give this guy some help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ndrianwifi-t3467599/post68829496#post68829496
lolwatpear said:
Could you give this guy some help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ndrianwifi-t3467599/post68829496#post68829496
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Sure!
YouTube dont work
LOL Google is crashing and burning hard on this phone. Not even to mention there was a shipment sent and there was no phone in the box lol. Ey yi yi... Google QC is non-existent on this launch.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...stalled.html&usg=AOvVaw0ycHsJ8_qtWkdZC51-2Bac
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct..._with_no_os/&usg=AOvVaw0uu50aTuzw3kahtCE1kB09
I wonder if this really is Google's fault. Yes they have a responsibility to quality controll their devices. But as it is HTC and LG who are producing these phones, installing them and so on? (dont know if that really is the case, but guessing it is) arent really they to blame for it? Google giving them the design, LG and HTC produce the phone, installing the tweaked software from google, and shipping them to the google stores, finnished in the packages. In my head, LG and HTC shoud be held responsible for this, not google.
But yeah, this is a tragic chapter in a wonderfull company's history
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I wonder if this really is Google's fault. Yes they have a responsibility to quality controll their devices. But as it is HTC and LG who are producing these phones, installing them and so on? (dont know if that really is the case, but guessing it is) arent really they to blame for it? Google giving them the design, LG and HTC produce the phone, installing the tweaked software from google, and shipping them to the google stores, finnished in the packages. In my head, LG and HTC shoud be held responsible for this, not google.
But yeah, this is a tragic chapter in a wonderfull company's history
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While you're not really wrong... Do we blame Apple or Foxcon for iPhone QC issues? Apple gets the blame. The Pixels aren't like the Nexus phones that are advertised as being LG or HTC made... These are advertised as made by Google. LG and HTC are Foxcon in this case. Or at least that's how I see it..... Foxcon probably builds these too lol
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These phones are apparently showing up with "slightly" different OS problems. A friend of mine opened his yesterday and it boots straight to recovery I think (haven't seen it in person yet). It has a message like "Can't load Android System" and the only options are "Try again" and "Factory Reset". Neither of which does anything except return to the same screen. He was going to try flashing the phone with the stock image, but these don't come with a USB C to USB cable, and he didn't have a USB to USB (non mini) at home to use the adapter. He's already returning it for a refund, but may get a cable and try again tonight just to see if it will come up. This is a bad picture. I'll try to get a better at lunch today.
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I would bet anything this has happened with every brand. I've seen every issue the pixel has on other brands here and there. Everything has a defect rate some worse than others.
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Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!
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Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!
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They would love to but without the kernel source, it wont be possible.
Bs3 users need to unite and oblige Blackshark to released this expensive phone's kernel sources. Their firmwares are buggy, inconsistent OTA updates, outdated security patches. Seriously if Blackshark's Dev team CANT COMPLY to the user needs, they shouldn't consider releasing any phones at all. Or if they really decided to abandoned a device development after selling lots of units to the world, atleast leave your consumers with the kernel source so the community can make the best out of their crappy promises devices esp if its $500+ devices
This a a complete deception, greediness, lack of responsibility, false promises, all out lies to the consumers/world. I guess that's typically Chinese for you?
They should be sued because maybe they dont want you to change their phone's software maybe because it's their means of spying in your countries. They sold us the hardware and they want full control on the software level for those hardware switches which makes sense. It's like hitting 4 targets with just one stone which is very clever indeed. China prolly will rule the world in 10 years from now .
I regret buying this phone and when anyone ask me for recommendations, i will say "NEVER BUY A BLACKSHARK PHONE"
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It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !
one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.
JohnBillyHill said:
one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.
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Agreed. And no NFC, either. This probably isn't the worst phone I've ever owned, but it's not too far off, and it's not really an upgrade from my previous phone, the Mate 20X. This has at least as many software issues as that phone, but overall lower quality software and hardware, I'd say. It's a gimmick phone, not a great phone
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It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !
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Next month not coming bro
Support is dead
Just a glimmer of hope for you guys. I got the Android 11 update yesterday. I am part of the MFN, and was picked as part of the soak test. Android 11 definitely brings out the G power's potential. Very smooth and fast. I feel like battery life has improved also.
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Hi, ice711.
I have a question, on Android 11 the gestures works with the ThirdParty Launchers? Like Nova Launcher.
Can you try some launcher to test that?
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Just a glimmer of hope for you guys. I got the Android 11 update yesterday. I am part of the MFN, and was picked as part of the soak test. Android 11 definitely brings out the G power's potential. Very smooth and fast. I feel like battery life has improved also. View attachment 5204183View attachment 5204181
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can you share your serial number to use tool from erfan abdi? https://motoota.lolinet.com/
No thanks to these updates, always eating 1gb of ram more... I have no difference in free memory going from a 3GB Ram Moto G7 Power Android 9.0 to a Moto G Power 2020 4GB Ram Android 10 because of it hogging more memory.
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can you share your serial number to use tool from erfan abdi? https://motoota.lolinet.com/
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I'm sorry I can't do that.
There are reports by both XDA and phonearena.com that Moto G stylus (2020), which is basically G power (2020) with better specs has just received Android 11 and Feb security patches update. If the news are true, will that mean G power is next? https://www.phonearena.com/news/motorola-moto-g-stylus-android-11-update_id131640; https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-m40-tab-active-3-a31-moto-g-stylus-2020-android-11/
Yesterday i recieved the update, in general, android 11 response well enough but i have some issues, first, the internal video recorder, does not record any sound, neither microphone, or internal audio, 2. some games stop working, well, some homebrew stope working like freedoom, and the reboot, power off menu is just horrible, hope they fix at least the screen record issue
So how do you guys like it has it lived up to your expectations? I'm still using Android 10 custom rom. Was there maybe a radio update that could universal?
I eventually grab R ROM for mine and flashed manually used the guide found in this section
September 2021 patch
I regained root after updated to R and I didn't have to wipe
So far so good and it's smooth
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https://rsdsecure-cloud.motorola.com/download/SOFIA_RETAIL_RPMS31.Q1-54-13-6_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAITGHGWTTC2SNWEPQ&Expires=1632474086&Signature=IWmRKDwlIIm4VAeZC3f9K8t8YLo%3D
TaZeR369 said:
No thanks to these updates, always eating 1gb of ram more... I have no difference in free memory going from a 3GB Ram Moto G7 Power Android 9.0 to a Moto G Power 2020 4GB Ram Android 10 because of it hogging more memory.
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Android is Linux - Linux will swallow up all the RAM it can and often will not free it; it will spread it around as it sees fit. Let it. The two os's you mention - android 9, android 10; it's likely they are using RAM differently. I dunno, I didn't look it up, but it's likely true.