Did Sony limit the smallest display size in nougat? - Xperia Z5 Premium Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just updated to nougat and even though I use the smallest text and display size possible things are still not as small as the nougat preview pictures posted by websites to show how small it can get, did Sony limit the smallest size? As everything still feels rather large, and i compared to fullscreen pictures of nougat in smallest size it's definitely bigger.

Try at settings -> accessibility -> display size.

Setting > About phone > tap on build number 7 times to enable developer options
Developer options > Smallest width
You can change your density settings here on nougat. I am using 600 and its pretty small.
Another method is adb wm size / density.
I was using that previously but i find nougat new density setting takes up less screen battery usage.

sohaix said:
Setting > About phone > tap on build number 7 times to enable developer options
Developer options > Smallest width
You can change your density settings here on nougat. I am using 600 and its pretty small.
Another method is adb wm size / density.
I was using that previously but i find nougat new density setting takes up less screen battery usage.
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f**king brilliant! Was searching for that, too, but would have never suspected this particular setting! Wow.

sohaix said:
Setting > About phone > tap on build number 7 times to enable developer options
Developer options > Smallest width
You can change your density settings here on nougat. I am using 600 and its pretty small.
Another method is adb wm size / density.
I was using that previously but i find nougat new density setting takes up less screen battery usage.
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you can use 540 and it will be changed to phablet layout, you can now use upto 7 icons in the dock

sohaix said:
Setting > About phone > tap on build number 7 times to enable developer options
Developer options > Smallest width
You can change your density settings here on nougat. I am using 600 and its pretty small.
Another method is adb wm size / density.
I was using that previously but i find nougat new density setting takes up less screen battery usage.
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what is the original size?

Zero-21XX said:
what is the original size?
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423 dp

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Where is the 'Smallest Width' Setting in Developer Options

I need to change the DPI and for my last few phones it has been easy to adjust the Smallest Width setting in the Developer Options, but I cannot see this option with Nougat on the HTC 10.
What happened to this setting on the HTC 10?
I am aware of the Display Size settings in Display options which is similar but different.

New dpi via adb?

Hi
I'm trying to change dpi in adb. Adb finds the device but when I'm typing "adb shell wm density 380" it doesn't work.
Anyone knows why?
Thx in advance
Try going into developer options and enable the security setting to on.
What is the default dpi for mi max 3?
jutley said:
What is the default dpi for mi max 3?
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Should be 480
Lasse58 said:
Hi
I'm trying to change dpi in adb. Adb finds the device but when I'm typing "adb shell wm density 380" it doesn't work.
Anyone knows why?
Thx in advance
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I think Xiaomi controlled the dpi using another variable, its called persistent density or something like that.. hence changing the normal density variable wont have any impact
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You can change the DPI in MIUI by going to Settings > Additional settings > Accessibilty > Display size
barro32 said:
You can change the DPI in MIUI by going to Settings > Additional settings > Accessibilty > Display size
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The smallest display dpi is "small"... its still too large for me haha... i think without root, there is no other way
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Are USB debugging & USB debugging (Security settings) both enabled?
If I recall correctly, enabling USB debugging (Security settings) is a bit tricky.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/guide-changing-min-width-dpi-miui-9-t3736218
this can be helpful for you. My dpi is now 290. If you go higher google keyboard change tablet mode.
I was able to change it using Activity Launcher using the tutorial below:
http://en.miui.com/thread-1093064-1-1.html
Default dpi is huge even at the smallest setting. I am using 320 and it's perfect, can see a lot of content without being too small
Just make sure Developer options has USB debugging (Security settings) enabled and use adb shell wm density 320
Big difference. Would be a waste to not see more content on such a big screen but also understand some people's eye sight may not be as good so they prefer bigger objects
320 vs Small setting
I used this tool to change dpi:
https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
zed011 said:
Default dpi is huge even at the smallest setting. I am using 320 and it's perfect, can see a lot of content without being too small
Just make sure Developer options has USB debugging (Security settings) enabled and use adb shell wm density 320
Big difference. Would be a waste to not see more content on such a big screen but also understand some people's eye sight may not be as good so they prefer bigger objects
320 vs Small setting
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tried this. but it doesnt seem to work. none of the layout is changing.
yup changing dpi without root is tricky. u need to enable security usb debugging. u need to use vpn apps.
got usb debugging on.
whats vpn tools?
anyway guys, thanks much. yea i have noticed that there are two options for usb debugging. look passed the other one.
now its working.
I just upgraded from Max 2 to Max 3... LOVE that i can change the DPI without rooting... had no trouble with either phone doing this. With the Max 2 i had it at 360, but with the Max 3 i'm trying 290....i may go up to 320 just because i need my glasses to see things like the battery % lol . No clue why Xiaomi didn't drop it below 400 out of the box but thrilled i can do it easily.
Smoked33 said:
I just upgraded from Max 2 to Max 3... LOVE that i can change the DPI without rooting... had no trouble with either phone doing this. With the Max 2 i had it at 360, but with the Max 3 i'm trying 290....i may go up to 320 just because i need my glasses to see things like the battery % lol . No clue why Xiaomi didn't drop it below 400 out of the box but thrilled i can do it easily.
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I use Font size 80%, Display size Custom (289), Smallest width 597 dp.
597 or 289dpi is the smallest dpi you can set before tablet mode is enabled in portrait mode.
If you rotate your phone watching a youtube video in full screen tablet mode is already enabled so the notification drawer is opened by swiping down on the left half side of the screen otherwise nothing will happen.
Setting Smallest width value is the easiest way to change dpi in the latest android versions.
Setting it to 596, 598 and 599 won't do anything.
It will either default back down to 595 or jump to 600 because it must represent a whole number in dpi.
It is crazy that pretty much ALL phones comes pre-configured out of the box at factory state with a dpi so large you can barely fit two words across the screen..really...I don't think anyone have this bad eyesight, if so then you need to get new glasses or lenses.
There are high index lenses out there that go to 1.9 and even beyond 2 if you really want to pay a lot if your prescription is crazy high to be able to enjoy a thin and light pair of glasses.
Like what is the purpose of getting a phone this big if you gonna have it display just as little as your old phone with third the screen size..isn't that why you wanted a bigger phone in the first place to get more screen estate, at least that's what I wanted..
SUPERUSER said:
It is crazy that pretty much ALL phones comes pre-configured out of the box at factory state with a dpi so large you can barely fit two words across the screen..really...I don't think anyone have this bad eyesight, if so then you need to get new glasses or lenses.
There are high index lenses out there that go to 1.9 and even beyond 2 if you really want to pay a lot if your prescription is crazy high to be able to enjoy a thin and light pair of glasses.
Like what is the purpose of getting a phone this big if you gonna have it display just as little as your old phone with third the screen size..isn't that why you wanted a bigger phone in the first place to get more screen estate, at least that's what I wanted..
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I can't agree with you more. Just thankful it's so easy to change
On a side note...and i'm not sure it's related because I didnt' try before changing the dpi(i use the adb method)... my TSN app won't stream any channels. It gives me an error... i'm not sure if that's the DPI setting that caused it? Only app that doesn't work right. I'm going to have to play with that when i'm home from work as it worked on my Max 2 set at 360 no problems and the only main difference i can tell with the 2 phones is the version of Android.
Edit: nevermind it wasn't the DPI setting... i allowed TSN GO to work in full screen mode and that did it.
Love the phone!

Themes / Apps / Mods Display density mod

For the sake of fun I enabled USB debugging and used adb to change the density of the display window from 420 to 320. Looks great on the large display and the amount of info you see compared to the default value might be interesting to some of you.
> adb shell wm density 320
> adb shell wm density reset ( to restore original value)
I used this trick in the past on many of my devices and it's now a habit.
Let me know if it works well for you..
Why not just change minimum width in developer options?
I use a dpi value of 1200...
Techvir said:
Why not just change minimum width in developer options?
I use a dpi value of 1200...
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I don't like to keep dev. options "On" for many reasons.
Just for my knowledge, I any difference between the two?
Yeah Dev Options FTW, why dont you like to keep it on?
Techvir said:
Why not just change minimum width in developer options?
I use a dpi value of 1200...
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thanks i put mine to 800 absolute life safer since alot was simply too big.
Do you know how to change the Preview Picture size ? Like in Whatsapp, instagram / fb they are soooo huuge.
In dpi, bigger the no., smaller the things on screen. So you ha e more stuff to see..
Mine is 1200 so everything is Tiny. I actually have to increase the font size to read everything
Xeon said:
For the sake of fun I enabled USB debugging and used adb to change the density of the display window from 420 to 320. Looks great on the large display and the amount of info you see compared to the default value might be interesting to some of you.
> adb shell wm density 320
> adb shell wm density reset ( to restore original value)
I used this trick in the past on many of my devices and it's now a habit.
Let me know if it works well for you..
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does it have any impact on the battery ???
Techvir said:
In dpi, bigger the no., smaller the things on screen. So you ha e more stuff to see..
Mine is 1200 so everything is Tiny. I actually have to increase the font size to read everything
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I tried 1200 DPI in developer settings which was fine for everything except the lock screen when I unfolded the phone while locked. It cut off the numbers on the left and right side of the keypad for entering my pin to unlock it. I use fingerprint recognition 99.9% of the time.
truckerdewd said:
I tried 1200 DPI in developer settings which was fine for everything except the lock screen when I unfolded the phone while locked. It cut off the numbers on the left and right side of the keypad for entering my pin to unlock it. I use fingerprint recognition 99.9% of the time.
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Yes. That is the only issue I have seen so far. I mostly use face unlock or finger as well.
I would like to just increase the font size on the front screen I've already adjusted the minimum width settings from the insider screen but the outside screen fonts are still to small . I've noticed that when you go in the minimum width settings from the front screen the numbers are different then when u go in from the inside screen and if you try and adjust them from the front outer screen they won't stick they just default to there original numbers ?
My sweet spot is 744dp and Font size in the middle.
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My sweet spot is 744dp and Font size in the middle.
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I don't have much experience playing with them but they seem to be dynamic changing with other settings first of all the numbers are different when you go in from the inner screen and from the outer front screen
I'd just like to be able to bump up the size on the front screen already got the inside where i like it
Markeee said:
I don't have much experience playing with them but they seem to be dynamic changing with other settings first of all the numbers are different when you go in from the inner screen and from the outer front screen
I'd just like to be able to bump up the size on the front screen already got the inside where i like it
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On the cover display. Go to developer options, change dp. This will be the dp for cover screen
Just changed my minimum width to 740, awesome.
+1 to changing the image preview size.
Zerobim08 said:
On the cover display. Go to developer options, change dp. This will be the dp for cover screen
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Are you saying change the minimum width DP from the front screen?
Coz i don't see any change dp setting option under developer options
Also changing minimum width numbers from the front screen won't stick they just default back to original number for me
Markeee said:
Are you saying change the minimum width DP from the front screen?
Coz i don't see any change dp setting option under developer options
Also changing minimum width numbers from the front screen won't stick they just default back to original number for me
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I meant the minimum width. Like you said this can't be changed for outer screen.
Maybe you can adjust the font size to fit outer screen, then change the minimum width on inner screen until the font size is comfortable.
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I meant the minimum width. Like you said this can't be changed for outer screen.
Maybe you can adjust the font size to fit outer screen, then change the minimum width on inner screen until the font size is comfortable.
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Even maximum font and display size settings don't make the outer front screen big enough for me still way small
Markeee said:
Even maximum font and display size settings don't make the outer front screen big enough for me still way small
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Which apps the text too small? I put in middle and text size for most apps are ok for outer screen.
If it is browser you can adjust the browser text size independently
Zerobim08 said:
Which apps the text too small? I put in middle and text size for most apps are ok for outer screen.
If it is browser you can adjust the browser text size independently
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All the front screen font is to small specify to name a few quick setting notification messages and chrome font and txt are way to small for me
I don't think theres a good way to increase the Chrome font size on android like there is on windows all you can do is expand it which not very good

Question What smallest width are you running

Just out of curiosity what smallest width number are you guys running? I know you can make some adjustments to display size/font size in display settings but I'm talking about the number you set in developer options. I'm running 512 looks pretty good to me. The options in display settings didn't allow me to go as small as I wanted.
znel52 said:
Just out of curiosity what DPI are you guys running? I know you can make some adjustments to display size/font size in display settings but I'm talking about the number you set in developer options. I'm running 512 because that is the DPI listed on all the spec sheets for the screen. Looks pretty good to me.
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Do you mean DPI or PPI?
If you are referring to PPI (jea 512 is the P6 Pro max) this does not change the actual PPI of the screen (obviously), only sets DPI scaling (ability to adjust the size of on-screen content).
Decreasing the value will give you larger icons and make text easier to read.
Increasing it will make on-screen elements smaller and fit more content on the screen.
You can also achieve that with the Pixel launcher built-in font & screen size options, so I don't really see the point here. (Settings -> Display -> Font size / Display size).
Morgrain said:
Do you mean DPI or PPI?
If you are referring to PPI (jea 512 is the P6 Pro max) this does not change the actual PPI of the screen (obviously), only sets DPI scaling (ability to adjust the size of on-screen content).
Decreasing the value will give you larger icons and make text easier to read.
Increasing it will make on-screen elements smaller and fit more content on the screen.
You can also achieve that with the Pixel launcher built-in font & screen size options, so I don't really see the point here. (Settings -> Display -> Font size / Display size).
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The point is pretty simple, the adjustments in the display settings only go so far. I want on-screen elements smaller than those settings allow. Smallest options in settings gives you a minimum width of 484 and I wanted a higher number. Guess I should have just said the smallest width settings in developer options.
510 here and much preferring it!
Morgrain said:
Do you mean DPI or PPI?
If you are referring to PPI (jea 512 is the P6 Pro max) this does not change the actual PPI of the screen (obviously), only sets DPI scaling (ability to adjust the size of on-screen content).
Decreasing the value will give you larger icons and make text easier to read.
Increasing it will make on-screen elements smaller and fit more content on the screen.
You can also achieve that with the Pixel launcher built-in font & screen size options, so I don't really see the point here. (Settings -> Display -> Font size / Display size).
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Hi! I'm sorry to bother you but I have a question, that is, you see my phone is oppo f9 and I have 432 dp and I'd like to change it to 700. Can I change it to that number? if yes, does it affects my phone performances? The "developer options" is quite new for me, so I'd like to ask before taking action
I have been running smallest width 720 for a few years now, which I think translates to something like 320dp. I ran the same on my previous Note phones. It takes me a minute to focus in the morning but I enjoy the extra space and viewing websites in full desktop mode instead of fisher price mobile versions.
It's really up to you to fiddle with the number until you find something that works for you, but I can verify 700+ works fine without breaking anything.
FWIW I ran it at 1024 for awhile too, that didnt break anything either but was too small for me. I don't know what the exact cutoff is but at a certain resolution you'll notice that Android and apps will flip over to a tablet experience. I prefer this, but it may influence your choice.
592 dpi also with 6 pro and 7 pro
anyone using Poco X3 NFC ? any suggestion on your smallest width ?
Only tried up to 800 so far. Maybe try 1024 once i very comfy w 800.

Question Changing Display Density

Just recently updated to stock A13 OOS (unlocked BL and rooted, LE 2125), and am wondering what the best way to change the display density system wide? The default settings are not quite small enough for my taste. Additionally, changing the smallest width setting within Developer Settings causes some undesirable outcomes; space below keyboard/home screen, weird Google Now spacing.
Also, when changing the smallest width developer setting, some elements of the system don't seem to respect that setting including lock screen date and clock, stock launcher, etc. I would prefer not to flash any custom roms as most I've tried have too many bugs.
I was wondering if there's any ADB command, magisk module, or anything I could do to make the display density smaller?
Have you played with Settings Font and Display size....
galaxys said:
Have you played with Settings Font and Display size....
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Yes, display size is set to small, and so is font size
If it still comes out too big, i think you might have the same problem as I did. I had to factory reset after a fresh F16 install. No problems since.
You want this command:
adb shell wm density 560
Change the number until you find a density you like.

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