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[SOLVED] M9 seems slow? [UPDATE] Wifi possibly my issue??

[SOLVED]
As I mentioned a few times in this thread, I was going to get a new wifi router and try it...... Well, the new wifi router fixed the issue.
All my apps that require a data connection (FB, CL, Weather, Instagram, ect...) all work blazing fast now.
Not sure why my wife's "Apple" stuff wasn't having any issues with it, maybe because it was an Apple AirPort router?? Either way, I'm now getting 80-104mb/s down and 25mb/s up.
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Now for my original post - below.
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I just upgraded from the M8 to the M9........ On At&t
When I first got the M9 and booted it up (first boot), it zipped through all 180-ish of the apps in about 2 minutes and I thought "WOW, this is much faster!
Last night I unlocked, S-OFF and rooted it...Of course, it reset the stock ROM when I unlocked the bootloader, but that still only took about 2 minutes to run through all the apps....I then flashed some ROM's to try on it.. Each time they would go through their first boot, it took about 20-30 minutes (for less apps). I've since tried a few other ROMs and get the same results, it takes a good 20-30 minutes. That's about how long my M8 took. But still NO WHERE NEAR as fast as the first boot when it was stock.
After the boot, and I restore all my apps form the Play store, it seems to take an exceptional amount of time for each app to re-install too... Not download, but install. For example, it just sat on "Installing" Google Maps for over 7 minutes before I stopped the Play store....Then went to my next app, downloaded it and took 4 minutes to install a 7mb app.
Did I get a bad phone?? Or maybe have done something wrong in my root process? This is the 8th or 9th phone I've rooted and I've also rooted several tablets, so I'm not a total nOoB. Maybe a bum firmware?
{UPDATE} I'll post below too, to bump this thread.
So, after basically being couped up in the house since I've had the phone, I went out and did my normal Wednesday thing (bowling), in a different city with pretty good LTE... My phone was FLYING fast on just about everything.
When I came home and connected to my home wifi, things all got really SLOW again. I thought it might be my Firmware (latest Developers 2.8.617.4, so I flashed it agian with no change.... I then flashed the most recent International tw (2.7.xxx.x) and I get the same super slow results. It takes almost 2 minutes to connect to SpeedTest.net with the app and I have 100mb down and 20mb up internet and I'm lucky to get 10 up and 1 down.
My wife's iPhone has no issues and gets 60+mb down and 17 up.... So, something is going on with my M9 and either the way it's talking to the router or something is corrupt?
I opened the Play Store and let it sit for a good 45 seconds, and none of the icon's would load (see pic), it only usually does that when I've got really week signal.
Gonna check my works wifi tomorrow to make sure it's nothing with my wifi or router, but everything else is running smooth (Both ROKU's, X-Box, iPhone, iPad and my songs M7).

To restore apps use titanium, not only will you get the data to them but it's faster and doesn't need the internet.
As for the indexing at the start of a ROM flash, I think thats to do with the OS indexing the apps. Also I think odex vs deodex, one takes longer than the other, could be why it's taking longer to install some apps.
As for 7 minutes for an app is not right.

tele_jas said:
I just upgraded from the M8 to the M9........ On At&t
When I first got the M9 and booted it up (first boot), it zipped through all 180-ish of the apps in about 2 minutes and I thought "WOW, this is much faster!
Last night I unlocked, S-OFF and rooted it...Of course, it reset the stock ROM when I unlocked the bootloader, but that still only took about 2 minutes to run through all the apps....I then flashed some ROM's to try on it.. Each time they would go through their first boot, it took about 20-30 minutes (for less apps). I've since tried a few other ROMs and get the same results, it takes a good 20-30 minutes. That's about how long my M8 took. But still NO WHERE NEAR as fast as the first boot when it was stock.
After the boot, and I restore all my apps form the Play store, it seems to take an exceptional amount of time for each app to re-install too... Not download, but install. For example, it just sat on "Installing" Google Maps for over 7 minutes before I stopped the Play store....Then went to my next app, downloaded it and took 4 minutes to install a 7mb app.
Did I get a bad phone?? Or maybe have done something wrong in my root process? This is the 8th or 9th phone I've rooted and I've also rooted several tablets, so I'm not a total nOoB. Maybe a bum firmware?
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Not the phone. That's the nature of custom roms. It takes a lot longer in optimize apps, but they'll run faster once optimized.
Might try rebooting for the slow play store apps installing slowly.

One thing I have noticed with the m9, especially in the XDA premium app, first try at clicking on a link for the first time will take a long time to load, click back and reload it, its possible that the play store may be the same, cancel the download and restart it. 7 minutes is not right by a long shot.

Is it slow if not using wifi too?
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kravguy said:
Is it slow if not using wifi too?
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Using LTE, it's lightning fast (when the signal is good). Heck, even when it's a weak signal (5mbs), it's still better than my home wifi.
I'm trying a different wifi router tonight, just to rule that out. I'll see if that renders any issues.

tele_jas said:
Using LTE, it's lightning fast (when the signal is good). Heck, even when it's a weak signal (5mbs), it's still better than my home wifi.
I'm trying a different wifi router tonight, just to rule that out. I'll see if that renders any issues.
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Did you check that setting in your build.prop?
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kravguy said:
Did you check that setting in your build.prop?
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What setting? I'm not sure I know what you're talking about?

kravguy said:
Did you check that setting in your build.prop?
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What setting? I'm not sure I know what you're talking about?
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@kravguy's confusing his Wi-Fi problem threads. He made the suggestion here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/help-wifi-issues-various-roms-t3153303) to change the channel in build.prop

jollywhitefoot said:
@kravguy's confusing his Wi-Fi problem threads. He made the suggestion here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/help-wifi-issues-various-roms-t3153303) to change the channel in build.prop
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I'm going to blame old age. My fault. Just some similarities to the symptoms as far as wifi speed.
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kravguy said:
I'm going to blame old age. My fault. Just some similarities to the symptoms as far as wifi speed.
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I blame too many threads with the same or similar issues. How many different dev edition update threads can we have going at once?

[SOLVED]
New Wifi router fixed everything!
Funny how it went "on the fritz" the same day I come home with a new phone?

Just updated to 24.31.22 9/30/2016

Hey All was just update to 24.31.22. I think I am in a beta group. Anyhow Wifi calling is now part of the Droid 2 along with unspecified security and bug fixes..

Cool. Looking forward to it. Still just 6.0? Or 6.0.1?

Is there a new modem to go with the update? My biggest complaint ATM with my Turbo 2 is random hang-ups with the radio where nothing wants to load, or random stutters in audio when streaming music.

my2cents said:
Cool. Looking forward to it. Still just 6.0? Or 6.0.1?
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6.0.1
Baseband is M8994_131025.50.03.34R, not sure if that is new or not didn't take note before upgrade.

Does tether trick still work with new update?

ijt311 said:
Does tether trick still work with new update?
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Yes just tried it

Have anyone experienced problem updating to the latest ota ? Mine stops with error and restarts after then it shows update not successful!

It's showing available for me now, I saw something posted about it over the weekend. Latest security patches and WiFi calling. 623 MB's, update it on WiFi.
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Update installed ok for me, up to the Sept patches and 6.0.1 as mentioned. I can't get WiFi calling to enable yet.
Edit: I had to re-enable the disabled Verizon apps I shut down when I "debloated" the phone to get the WiFi set up to work. I read you just need Verizon Login but that didn't work so I turned everything back on, set it up and disabled them again. Just a tip if you disabled apps.

Update installed fine here as well. I don't care about it too much ATM though because my Nexus 6 just got 7.0.0

Just updated myself and activated wifi calling. I get marginal service at my house so it's a plus for me
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It seems updating fine with everyone, my dt2 won't update for some reason.

For some reason I haven't even gotten the update ftw?

TurboBot247 said:
For some reason I haven't even gotten the update ftw?
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Anything happen if you tell the phone to check for updates under Settings, System Updates?

The radio issues that I was hoping were fixed are still there. Random times where there is no network connectivity despite having a decent 4G signal. I've also had times where I just randomly loose 4G and go back to 3G for a short period for no reason, then 4G just magically comes back. Never had the same issues with my Nexus 6, so I know it is a phone issue. Wife has the T2 as well, and she has random network issues as well.

I have noticed with mine yesterday that it wouldn't send a text while it had good 4g service a few times. A reboot fixed it. Only issue, besides battery life not being as good as I feel a phone like this should be, is when I am in my car either playing a podcast/music over Bluetooth and I pull into my driveway and connect to my wifi network my Bluetooth disconnects from my car and then after like 20 seconds reconnects. Not a huge issue. Just annoying. It's happened since the original marshmallow install though and FDR doesn't fix it.
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robsharp78 said:
Hey All was just update to 24.31.22. I think I am in a beta group. Anyhow Wifi calling is now part of the Droid 2 along with unspecified security and bug fixes..
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What makes you think you're in a beta group?
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Jersey846 said:
What makes you think you're in a beta group?
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I got the update like a week before my wives phone. It's that that called a soak test?

I finally got the update today. But then again I have found OTA updates very inconsistent.

Not sure if it's because my Turbo 2 knows that it's getting replaced or what, but I've had several radio related issues over the past 2-3 days. Loosing network connectivity, slow connectivity, bluetooth skips, etc. Issues I've never expected to have from a Motorola device. Thankfully my backup Motorola phone, the Nexus 6 works fine without these issues. Just need to hold myself over until my Pixel XL shows up.

I have had some weird issues after the update also. I took the update and could not get Wi-Fi calling to work. So Verizon told me to factory reset the phone. Now my Wi-Fi calling is enabled however the call Quality is poor with or without HD voice, and everytime I reboot my phone it boots to the AP fastboot screen. Then I have to press the power button to start and it will Start Up Normally.
Any thoughts on this one.
BTW, they are sending me a replacement device and I'm probably going to be upgrading to the Pixel XL anyways

Disabling auto updates permanently

Is there a way to disable auto updates permanently? I've tried to disable it in developer options but to no avail, whenever I'm rooted the damn phone will still try to download the newest update and eats through my data. The only way I found was a firewall app to block it, but I'd prefer a command or something to disable it as I sometimes forget to enable the firewall again (works through VPN and some apps don't let me use their apps with VPN so I end up having to turn it off). Any help or advice is appreciated! Thanks

I think if you switched to a custom rom that doesn't use the usual update, such as Pure Nexus, that would probably do it. Personally I have started using FlashFire just to make OTA updates on the stock rooted Pixel easier. The only other option I've ran across is the following. The link keeps my phone awake and doesn't allow deep sleep, so I have no idea if the following actually works or not, since I didn't use it long enough to get to a new update. One poster indicated their firewall was still blocking traffic after making the change, yet I don't know if updating a phone and then making the change would work or not, assuming someone was okay with their phone not going into deep sleep.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/

alluringreality said:
I think if you switched to a custom rom that doesn't use the usual update, such as Pure Nexus, that would probably do it. Personally I have started using FlashFire just to make OTA updates on the stock rooted Pixel easier. The only other option I've ran across is the following. The link keeps my phone awake and doesn't allow deep sleep, so I have no idea if the following actually works or not, since I didn't use it long enough to get to a new update. One poster indicated their firewall was still blocking traffic after making the change, yet I don't know if updating a phone and then making the change would work or not, assuming someone was okay with their phone not going into deep sleep.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
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Ah, thanks! I think I'll use FlashFire to update whenever one is released. I looked at purenexus but wasn't really liking it. Thanks again!

Disable SystemUpdateService
Check this page out.
My phone chewed nearly 20gb of mobile data in 3 days trying to constantly update.
I scoured for an additional 2 days for a solution and this is the only one that has worked!
I'm not allowed to post URL's but if you google: pixelmantras hide ota
You will hit the page straight away

"My Verizon Services" process, wtf where did that come from?

Hey all, apologies if this has been addressed.
The background, I was starting to get some slow down, laggy performance from my phone, so I went under developer options and went to see what processes were currently being run and what cached processes were saved. And then I noticed a process named, "My Verizon Services". WTF.
The last I remember, I setup my phone via WiFi without my sim card in, so that bloatware from Verizon didn't get installed. Am rooted via magisk/twrp and have manually installed subsequent updates.
Where did this process come from? And how can I make sure that after I do my full wipe, it won't sneak its way back into my phone? Or is this a mandatory process force installed to work on a Verizon network?
2XL, 8.1 January (non-verizon), rooted, magisk 15.3

rknee said:
Hey all, apologies if this has been addressed.
The background, I was starting to get some slow down, laggy performance from my phone, so I went under developer options and went to see what processes were currently being run and what cached processes were saved. And then I noticed a process named, "My Verizon Services". WTF.
The last I remember, I setup my phone via WiFi without my sim card in, so that bloatware from Verizon didn't get installed. Am rooted via magisk/twrp and have manually installed subsequent updates.
Where did this process come from? And how can I make sure that after I do my full wipe, it won't sneak its way back into my phone? Or is this a mandatory process force installed to work on a Verizon network?
2XL, 8.1 January (non-verizon), rooted, magisk 15.3
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You sure that the My Verizon app isn't installed? I set up mine without the sim card in the beginning and as soon i as popped in the sim card, it installed those 3 Verizon apps. I just uninstalled them so it wasn't a big deal.

Yeah not installed, and searched throughout the phone with two different file explorers to root out verizon (vzw) apps, folders, etc. tried deleting them all but the process still shows up.
I'm curious if you still have that process running even after you deleted the apps.
Check it out for me and let me know.
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You sure that the My Verizon app isn't installed? I set up mine without the sim card in the beginning and as soon i as popped in the sim card, it installed those 3 Verizon apps. I just uninstalled them so it wasn't a big deal.
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If you put a VZ SIM in the phone it pulls My Verizon. If you start the app...even if you don't fully sign in..that service shows up. It stays there after you uninstall the app.
Just tested and confirmed on my Google phone.

Dang.... need to figure out how to block that from getting installed. Or how to fully rid it from the phone after.
Or does it only show up if you start the app? So if I don't start it up, I'm good?
I'll report back here in just a bit
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If you put a VZ SIM in the phone it pulls My Verizon. If you start the app...even if you don't fully sign in..that service shows up. It stays there after you uninstall the app.
Just tested and confirmed on my Google phone.
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rknee said:
Dang.... need to figure out how to block that from getting installed. Or how to fully rid it from the phone after.
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If you uninstall it, the service shouldn't show up. Try rebooting after uninstalling and see if it goes away

rknee said:
Dang.... need to figure out how to block that from getting installed. Or how to fully rid it from the phone after.
Or does it only show up if you start the app? So if I don't start it up, I'm good?
I'll report back here in just a bit
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Going to have to flash back to stock and uninstall it before you start it. I had never uninstalled it or started it. It was not in my running services when I first looked. So remove it before you start it.
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If you uninstall it, the service shouldn't show up. Try rebooting after uninstalling and see if it goes away
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Nope, it stays there even after reboot. It pops back up for a second running then moves to the cached in background section.
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Bummer, just ran the flash all minus the -w and it's still there. So it's part of the User partition. Gonna take a full wipe I think. I am not worried about it, just enjoying figuring out the puzzle.

I'm right there with you. I don't understand why that process persists.
I've got slow wifi at my place, so it make take a bit for me to report back in. Currently installing all apps I had on my phone before, root, and then pop my sim card back in.
Goal- basically stop verizon apps download while in process.
Not sure what that process is/was doing. Or what information it is sending. But I really don't see why it needs to be taking up memory, or why it needs to be sending any data.
Thanks for looking into it with me.
TonikJDK said:
Going to have to flash back to stock and uninstall it before you start it. I had never uninstalled it or started it. It was not in my running services when I first looked. So remove it before you start it.
Nope, it stays there even after reboot. It possible back up for a second running then moves to the cached in background section.
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I think it must be connected to the Sim card.
Factory reset, root, no verizon apps installed or downloaded
And it's still showing up in the running/cached processes.
It was not there when the Sim card was not in.
I'm curious if Sprint or T-Mobile folks have a similar process.

Got it killed.
Install All In One Toolbox from the play store, requires root for what we are doing. Fire it up and you can disable services from startup. My Verizon Services was there, disabled it and rebooted and it is gone. Then I uninstalled All In One and rebooted. Still gone.
I love the smell of burnt Verizon in the morning.
Be interesting to see if any side effects, like lost voicemail notifications.

rknee said:
Hey all, apologies if this has been addressed.
The background, I was starting to get some slow down, laggy performance from my phone, so I went under developer options and went to see what processes were currently being run and what cached processes were saved. And then I noticed a process named, "My Verizon Services". WTF.
The last I remember, I setup my phone via WiFi without my sim card in, so that bloatware from Verizon didn't get installed. Am rooted via magisk/twrp and have manually installed subsequent updates.
Where did this process come from? And how can I make sure that after I do my full wipe, it won't sneak its way back into my phone? Or is this a mandatory process force installed to work on a Verizon network?
2XL, 8.1 January (non-verizon), rooted, magisk 15.3
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Are you using the Verizon app by chance?? I have the same setup as you, and I use the app to check my data usage periodically. If your on wifi, you won't see it running under developer options. However, if you use it on mobile data, and deny the location prompt when you open the app, it'll stay running in the background searching. When your back on wifi, it'll still run, so I just go to developer options and shut it down.

Nice one.... worked like a charm. Thanks
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Got it killed.
Install All In One Toolbox from the play store, requires root for what we are doing. Fire it up and you can disable services from startup. My Verizon Services was there, disabled it and rebooted and it is gone. Then I uninstalled All In One and rebooted. Still gone.
I love the smell of burnt Verizon in the morning.
Be interesting to see if any side effects, like lost voicemail notifications.
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TonikJDK said:
Got it killed.
Install All In One Toolbox from the play store, requires root for what we are doing. Fire it up and you can disable services from startup. My Verizon Services was there, disabled it and rebooted and it is gone. Then I uninstalled All In One and rebooted. Still gone.
I love the smell of burnt Verizon in the morning.
Be interesting to see if any side effects, like lost voicemail notifications.
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Thanks this app was bugging me. Kept reinstalling itself

TonikJDK said:
If you put a VZ SIM in the phone it pulls My Verizon. If you start the app...even if you don't fully sign in..that service shows up. It stays there after you uninstall the app.
Just tested and confirmed on my Google phone.
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Is the service related to the My Verizon app or is it due to network connectivity, specifically LTE Advanced Calling and/or Wifi calling? And you said you disabled and uninstalled it with a root app, which I can't use. But have you noticed anything untoward after disabling it? I click on it in the Cached Services tab and it says an old app cached but available if needed. Doesn't seem like it's doing anything weird. Phone is working fine and no crazy data or battery drain. (I have a Pixel 2 and not the XL version)

Haven't noticed anything detrimental. Though I did do a full wipe before doing all this because I was having some performance lag issues, like home screen swipes not being smooth, increased time while switching between apps.
I would be curious to know what it's actually doing since I never had any Verizon related apps loaded onto the phone.
If you watch the running processes screen during load up you'll see it run for a few seconds and then move over into the cached processes.
I don't know enough about debugging, but it would be interesting to see what it's doing and if it's sending or receiving any information.
But...I no longer have it running so I'm currently unable to do so.
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Is the service related to the My Verizon app or is it due to network connectivity, specifically LTE Advanced Calling and/or Wifi calling? And you said you disabled and uninstalled it with a root app, which I can't use. But have you noticed anything untoward after disabling it? I click on it in the Cached Services tab and it says an old app cached but available if needed. Doesn't seem like it's doing anything weird. Phone is working fine and no crazy data or battery drain. (I have a Pixel 2 and not the XL version)
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I have a Pixel 2 XL simless on project fi and this app showed up on a security scan with Clean Master so I'd be curious to know how it got on my phone

Funny story....

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...rizon-services-1-0-89-2-android-apk-download/
It's actually a Google app and not Verizon bloat. That would explain how it got onto the non-Verizon variant of the phone. Still not 100% sure what it exactly does though, but according to this Verizon rep it is a dependency service for other apps which I'm assuming are from Verizon.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942253

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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...rizon-services-1-0-89-2-android-apk-download/
It's actually a Google app and not Verizon bloat. That would explain how it got onto the non-Verizon variant of the phone. Still not 100% sure what it exactly does though, but according to this Verizon rep it is a dependency service for other apps which I'm assuming are from Verizon.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942253
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It's needed for VZ wifi calling. I froze it, wifi calling instantly stopped. Unfroze instantly worked again.

TonikJDK said:
It's needed for VZ wifi calling. I froze it, wifi calling instantly stopped. Unfroze instantly worked again.
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Wonder what other Verizon services rely on it to function. Figured I'd reach out to Google via the support chat to see if they might know, but they were pretty much useless.

Still Waiting For Android 11 OTA Update

It's now been three days since Android 11 has been released and it's still not available on my Pixel 2 XL. I've checked for updated manually a few times a day since then. Anyone else?

You are lucky that you didn't update your phone and I recommend you not to upgrade because It has become laggy and almost every app is freezing while using and battery drain is horrible even have completed 4 charging cycle my SOT has reduced to 4 hours which it was 5.30 hours.

no issues at all after updating to 11
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Android works flawlessly since Beta 3 for me.
If you were on beta program, get out of it and try again.

RealCaracas said:
Android works flawlessly since Beta 3 for me.
If you were on beta program, get out of it and try again.
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Nope, not on the beta.

jimv1983 said:
It's now been three days since Android 11 has been released and it's still not available on my Pixel 2 XL. I've checked for updated manually a few times a day since then. Anyone else?
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If you are so desperate, opt for beta and within few hours you may able to update.

Why not just downlaod direct form Google, if you really want it...
Full Factory Image: https://developers.google.com/android/images
OTA: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Me, i always clean flash a full factory image, especially on major releases....im strange like that..i also post less about Android OS issues...maybe theres a correlation <scratches head>

73sydney said:
Why not just downlaod direct form Google, if you really want it...
Full Factory Image: https://developers.google.com/android/images
OTA: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Me, i always clean flash a full factory image, especially on major releases....im strange like that..i also post less about Android OS issues...maybe theres a correlation <scratches head>
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I never do clean reinstall after a major release unless it's necessary. It takes so long. Re-insalling all my apps, reloading all my data (music, videos) restoring texts and some app data, configuring apps, logging into accounts, etc. It takes hours.
I didn't realize you could side load the OTA without having to do a wipe. I'll probably try that. Thanks.

You will lose Call Screening options.. If you updated

Just sideload it or flash the ota with twrp.
That being said you aren't missing much staying on 10 for a while

dallas90733 said:
You will lose Call Screening options.. If you updated
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Google got rid of the Call Screening feature?

Edmontonchef said:
That being said you aren't missing much staying on 10 for a while
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Me too, went back to 10 after just an hour, too many issues, particularly with apps that wont work on it...like my fave backup app, meaning i would have had to reinstall all my apps and reset them all up from scratch....