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Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?
sevenmad said:
Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?
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Nope. Try setting your brightness. Be diligent: tweak the brightness whenever your ambient lighting changed.
After all, changing the brightness on a Samsung Android device is a simple swipe across the status bar.
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sevenmad said:
Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?
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Aside from the advise above, also set your system font size to become bigger. If that still doesn't help, you'll need a phone with a bigger display. Just make sure, the newer one will have a pixel density that would be higher or at least equal to what we have on our wonder (250+ ppi). My cousin had the same experience and found out it was the low pixel density of his phone's screen that was causing his headaches.
I hope this helps.
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I have tried changing the brightness but it didnt help much.... perhaps the prblm is with my own eyes...
sevenmad said:
I have tried changing the brightness but it didnt help much.... perhaps the prblm is with my own eyes...
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I read quite alot books in Cool Reader with Old Paper background and trying to have backlight as low as possible. I read in public transport in daylight or in a complete darkness at the night. And I can say taht after half of hour my eyes get tired, but does not hurt me. I have eye corretion +0.5 on left and -0.75 on right and not wearing any glasses.
Anyway - if your eyes HURT, I would strongly recomend e-ink book reader. And visit your doctor!
Good luck!
Hey guys.
U probably know i bought this phone about a week ago. Im facing AMOLED burn in with like 9hrs of usage everyday.
Do you guys face this kind of issues? Ot am i just overreacting.
Sent from mah AssForMini
TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys.
U probably know i bought this phone about a week ago. Im facing AMOLED burn in with like 9hrs of usage everyday.
Do you guys face this kind of issues? Ot am i just overreacting.
Sent from mah AssForMini
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I don't have this kind of issue and having this phone since may
Aronuser said:
I don't have this kind of issue and having this phone since may
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I guess Im just overreacting then. Funny cos yeknow how YouTube updated their app and when you tap on the search bar you see a plain white background (that if you paused search history). Well for me, I saw a kinda dark thick line running across the screen. Not obvious but a very very faint dark thick line.
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I've got some burn in from using Waze as my navigation app for the past 9 months.
I'm facing near same problem...
My phone have very light black stripes on screen, especially at white backgrounds.
I use this phone for hours everyday since I got the phone, 1 year 3 months ago and don't have any similar problems.
Try downloading a video designed to free up pixels that are otherwise dead.
They're normally a few minutes long and alternate between bright red, green and blue at different intervals.
adrokon said:
Try downloading a video designed to free up pixels that are otherwise dead.
They're normally a few minutes long and alternate between bright red, green and blue at different intervals.
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Does it really actually help clearing deat pixels?
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Yes, I've used them previously on TVs, PSPs and phones - all successfully.
It may take multiple attempts but it should eventually bring them back..
Same here, status bar and the keyboard^^
Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
messiah said:
Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
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Sounds like a screen issue to me, have you checked the ribbon connector hasnt come slightly undone ?
Hi, thanks for answering.
Attached is the video I spoke about. I missed to upload it.
You mean to open the device and check the ribbon connector inside, right?
Regards
edit: the video
messiah said:
Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
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This is commom in these units.
It's worst when it's hot.
I kinda fixed mine opening it and adjusting some kind of screw near the screen. You turn it and screen gets darker, you need to find a point between too dark and flickering. But when I park my car at the sun, and it gets hot inside, screen get bright again, so flickering and persistent images.
And here is a video about it.
pczao said:
This is commom in these units.
It's worst when it's hot.
I kinda fixed mine opening it and adjusting some kind of screw near the screen. You turn it and screen gets darker, you need to find a point between too dark and flickering. But when I park my car at the sun, and it gets hot inside, screen get bright again, so flickering and persistent images.
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Personally I wouldnt say "common" - I ve only hear about 3 people mention it in the last 3 years.
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Personally I wouldnt say "common" - I ve only hear about 3 people mention it in the last 3 years.
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It's commom. That's why Joying even put a video online to show how to fix it.
I believe that when they produce the unit, it's now well tuned up, or it's cold in the factory and they don't realize, so when someone who lives in a hot weather area install it, the problem appears.
It's a bad hardware design, they use analog potentiometer, they should use some digital and automatic one to regulate screen frequency.
pczao said:
It's commom. That's why Joying even put a video online to show how to fix it.
I believe that when they produce the unit, it's now well tuned up, or it's cold in the factory and they don't realize, so when someone who lives in a hot weather area install it, the problem appears.
It's a bad hardware design, they use analog potentiometer, they should use some digital and automatic one to regulate screen frequency.
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Well, Like I said, I ve not heard much about it in the 3 years I ve been following the threads on here, but I do remember Joyous having problems with their screens and 5.1.1 - they couldnt get 5.1.1 to work on their 4.4.4 RK3188 units unless the screen was changed !! Sounds like its more a problem with Joyous units.
I agree there's not many complaints about this problem here, that's why I believe that may be some "quality check" sloppiness. It's very simple to solve anyway.
But all units seems to use analog potentiometer, so, bad design. There's nothing to do with Joying only and the fact they changed screen to update to 5.1.1.
And most users in this forum don't live in hot weather areas. In my case, Brazil, is hot must time of the year, above 34 C degrees (93 F), in the shade.
pczao said:
I agree there's not many complaints about this problem here, that's why I believe that may be some "quality check" sloppiness. It's very simple to solve anyway.
But all units seems to use analog potentiometer, so, bad design. There's nothing to do with Joying only and the fact they changed screen to update to 5.1.1.
And most users in this forum don't live in hot weather areas. In my case, Brazil, is hot must time of the year, above 34 C degrees (93 F), in the shade.
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Thanks for reminding me that its only 4 C degrees here in the UK
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Thanks for reminding me that its only 4 C degrees here in the UK
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Don't make me jealous!!
UK weather is great. I've been there once, liked very much.
Some friends are going to travel there later this month. I'm unable to go because my daughter is too young.
pczao said:
Don't make me jealous!!
UK weather is great. I've been there once, liked very much.
Some friends are going to travel there later this month. I'm unable to go because my daughter is too young.
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Youre envious of 4 deg C ?! I get 34 deg C is a bit hot, but 4 is a bit cold !
Half way between 4 and 34 @ 19 deg C would be perfect
typos1 said:
Youre envious of 4 deg C ?! I get 34 deg C is a bit hot, but 4 is a bit cold !
Half way between 4 and 34 @ 19 deg C would be perfect
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Agreed!
pczao said:
Agreed!
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Lol, meet you in St.Helena, thats about half way init?
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Lol, meet you in St.Helena, thats about half way init?
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I looked at the map and St. Helena is a little to the south, a direct flight seems a better option.
But feel welcome if you want to come to Brazil someday.
It's a bit messy but it's a good country. I'm not going to take you to meet any favela, by the way. Don't know why tourists are so eager to go in one, it's very dangerous, and I don't think they represent Brazil that much, so many different beatiful places to go.
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I looked at the map and St. Helena is a little to the south, a direct flight seems a better option.
But feel welcome if you want to come to Brazil someday.
It's a bit messy but it's a good country. I'm not going to take you to meet any favela, by the way. Don't know why tourists are so eager to go in one, it's very dangerous, and I don't think they represent Brazil that much, so many different beatiful places to go.
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dont worry, slums were not the first thing on my mind when thinking about Brazil
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And here is a video about it.
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Hey there, thanks but the video is not working.
I did not open the unit yet to check if the screw will improve. But I will test soon when I find some time.
By the way it's around 0°C here. So not very warm
Attached is another video. The flickering of the right white picture is actually visible. It's not a flickering of the camera.
messiah said:
Hey there, thanks but the video is not working.
I did not open the unit yet to check if the screw will improve. But I will test soon when I find some time.
By the way it's around 0°C here. So not very warm
Attached is another video. The flickering of the right white picture is actually visible. It's not a flickering of the camera.
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Here's the link of the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GsRriCgZzd4
Just open the unit and fix it, very easy.
Took some time until I tried the fix. But the screw fixed it.
Carjoy recommended a power filter, but since the screw fixed it i prefer this...
The screen is now slightly darker. But I like the crisp image and better saturation of the colors (and of course no flicker).
Thanks!
messiah said:
Took some time until I tried the fix. But the screw fixed it.
Carjoy recommended a power filter, but since the screw fixed it i prefer this...
The screen is now slightly darker. But I like the crisp image and better saturation of the colors (and of course no flicker).
Thanks!
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Does the unit have to be powered on when tighten the screw?
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Hey guys, got the phone for a few days.
already got burn ins from whatsapp. the white textbox is two times burned in (keyboard/without)
if u open up a dark grey picture u might see it as well.
just have seen it by an accident when opening "simple gallery", its base backround color was grey, so i found the burn ins.
i am not sure if all displays are affected by the burn ins, i will return mine :/
oh no. can u install aida 64, click on display, whats the panel id.
I've been using mine for almost 1 month and I have no image retention (btw it's image retention, it goes away . Only amoled's burn -in)
tianma td 4310.
Robert- said:
I've been using mine for almost 1 month and I have no image retention (btw it's image retention, it goes away . Only amoled's burn -in)
tianma td 4310.
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I got the tianma td4310 as well.
Thx for your answere. This morning it was a way better. I know that only amoleds were known for burn-ins. so yeah, seems like it´s only "image retention", anyways for just a few days usage i am pretty disappointed.
will keep the phone for now and hope that it´s not getting worse
L-ViZ said:
I got the tianma td4310 as well.
Thx for your answere. This morning it was a way better. I know that only amoleds were known for burn-ins. so yeah, seems like it´s only "image retention", anyways for just a few days usage i am pretty disappointed.
will keep the phone for now and hope that it´s not getting worse
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Are you on MIUI or some custom rom?
If you are on a custom rom, go to display and then to live display and then to colors and from 100% go to 95% to all of them. This happened to tianma panels on Redmi Note 4 too on custom roms.
This also happens to every LG since G4. Low-quality LCD Panels.
There is nothing wrong with your phone , you can rest assured.
Robert- said:
Are you on MIUI or some custom rom?
If you are on a custom rom, go to display and then to live display and then to colors and from 100% go to 95% to all of them. This happened to tianma panels on Redmi Note 4 too on custom roms.
This also happens to every LG since G4. Low-quality LCD Panels.
There is nothing wrong with your phone , you can rest assured.
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atm RR, so far the best rom i guess. but still the only one i tried. had the RMN4 as well, but never issues with the display (except yellow spot, soon warranty/repair)
i just hope for some aosp roms in the future like AEX and custom kernels
but atm the phone is pretty new on the market and we need to wait a little bit
Yeah, it would be nice to have selection of different ROMs.
Can someone post a picture of burn-in...
m666p said:
Can someone post a picture of burn-in...
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actually it´s image retention, not a burn in. so it´s not good, but it seems to be okay.
i am not able to take a photo, cuz u would need a better camera for it.
i guess it depends on the apps that u use and how often.
if u want to see if u got it as well, you could try to download a simple grey picture.
for me grey/dark grey worked good to check it. then open it in fullscreen. u might see the buttons from the navbar slightly.
i´ve been using whatsapp a lot the last few hours, so i could see the white textbox.
atm i am on RR and i recently found out that u barely get max brightness on autobrightnes maxed out. after using max brightness (manual) it seemed to be better. dunno why may be on max brightnes, the pixel get "reset" better. i don´t know.
all in all. it´s okay for me and i guess if u got it, u can recalibrate it.
I installed aida 64 from playstore but I don´t get any panel info in "display"... where do you guys find that Info about panel manufacturer?
Everything is going to be alright. It's just a low-quality screen, nothing can be done except:
Go to display, live display, color tweak and tweak the colors. From 100% go to 95% and voila, everything is going to be normal. Tinama screens are pretty bad, you can go to the redmi note 4 forum and then look for image retention. There are a lot of topics about that and it seems that only tinama screens are affected.
tl;dr: nothing to be worried about. You probably wont have problems on MIUI because the screen is calibrated
Robert- said:
Everything is going to be alright. It's just a low-quality screen, nothing can be done except:
Go to display, live display, color tweak and tweak the colors. From 100% go to 95% and voila, everything is going to be normal. Tinama screens are pretty bad, you can go to the redmi note 4 forum and then look for image retention. There are a lot of topics about that and it seems that only tinama screens are affected.
tl;dr: nothing to be worried about. You probably wont have problems on MIUI because the screen is calibrated
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Completely false, I have official MIUI 9.5.6.0, I have the phone for 2 days, it created image retention like crazy, god fing damn i didnt expect xiaomi to have such **** panels, so disappointed
@Kusie
Open Xiaomi dialer app and type *#*#6484#*#* and click "software version"
Tianma 4310 display as well. 7 days of usage. 22,75hr + of total SOT. Auto-brightness enabled. Contrast mode : high. Colours mode : standard. Mainly using tatatalk with night mode anabled , XDA labs with dark there as well and SimplePro for FB with white theme. Google keybord green theme. At late night hours auto-reading mode kicks in (100% set)
No image retention/tiny and barely visible navigation bar (or it's just placeboo).
Interesting. Some people here with the same panel face instant burn ins and some don't...
It has to be connected with color schemes of apps, which you are using or brightness levels, which you are mainly on
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I saw image retention the first day I got the phone. Changed the color settings to cold (MIUI) and no problem since then.
AbrahamW08 said:
I saw image retention the first day I got the phone. Changed the color settings to cold (MIUI) and no problem since then.
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And why should we be forced to use ugly Cold mode? We lose color accuracy just by doing that, along with the screen having an unnatural blue hue which is also bad for the eyes, I want color accuracy not a screen looking like it's frosted
Hi,
i am on "Linageos 15.1" and today i saw that the color of the screen went to dirty. Before i had very good color representation and now it is like gray, no saturation, no big hue.
While rebooting the phone i saw the last Apps i was running. I can see the Statusbar while i am on bootloader-animation.
My phone runs for about 1,5 months and this issue appeared immediately from one second to another.
So there is no solution to get the display working as it should?
So i have to buy a new phone?
I got a replacement device b/c of the image retention. The display manufacturer is not Tianma anymore but Shenchao. The model number stays the same.
hello friends,
I am having weird issue from yesterday.
my phone was too hot while charging and i was gaming.
I felt that colors are shifted too much on upper part where device heat.
then i tested with screen tester app, all colors were looking fine, but when dark gray comes, there was warm shade on upper part and cool shade on lower part.
I thought this will recover after device cool down, but now 1 day passed, 90% screen recovered but 10% still remain different.
I am going to RMA this and did not expected this from oneplus, oneplus 7 still far better in display department..
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you guys, please test this as I mentioned above and reply here.
RohanAJoshi said:
hello friends,
I am having weird issue from yesterday.
my phone was too hot while charging and i was gaming.
I felt that colors are shifted too much on upper part where device heat.
then i tested with screen tester app, all colors were looking fine, but when dark gray comes, there was warm shade on upper part and cool shade on lower part.
I thought this will recover after device cool down, but now 1 day passed, 90% screen recovered but 10% still remain different.
I am going to RMA this and did not expected this from oneplus, oneplus 7 still far better in display department..
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you guys, please test this as I mentioned above and reply here.
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tested 2 hours fortnite - epic settings with charger.
nothing happens
maybe cool down the 10% with some ice? but be carefull - maybe a "frostshock" recover the damaged displaypart.
if not, rma.
Yeah I have a little bit of that as well. It comes and goes on mine. It was much worse when I first got the phone. I was checking off the bat because I had the same (but much much worse) on the pixel 4.
Many MANY people have the same issue, enable DC Dimming in the OnePlus Laboratory to fix this
I decided to return my handset to retailer.
Great device, the smoothest i've ever used with huge potential for future development, but this panel is bit disappointing. I mean in normal light conditions it's so pretty you don't miss qhd at all. Once you step into dark room you can forget about dark theming.
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Many MANY people have the same issue, enable DC Dimming in the OnePlus Laboratory to fix this
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It does fix the issue but then the contrast sucks. I just decided to deal with it. Hopefully it's fixed in a future update because overall I love this phone.
I am afraid it's hw issue.
ChongoDroid said:
Yeah I have a little bit of that as well. It comes and goes on mine. It was much worse when I first got the phone. I was checking off the bat because I had the same (but much much worse) on the pixel 4.
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RelicUser said:
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forever_lol said:
I decided to return my handset to retailer.
Great device, the smoothest i've ever used with huge potential for future development, but this panel is bit disappointing. I mean in normal light conditions it's so pretty you don't miss qhd at all. Once you step into dark room you can forget about dark theming.
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lendawg said:
It does fix the issue but then the contrast sucks. I just decided to deal with it. Hopefully it's fixed in a future update because overall I love this phone.
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I am afraid it's hw issue.
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Does anyone of you try RMA ?
Maybe they have updated panels from oem if this issue is too widespread.
Had same experience with poco with touchpanel. 1st novatek touch panels were worse in touch response, then they replaced it with focaltek touch panels for newer batches.
Yeah maybe they should but mine is barely noticeable. If yours bugs you then return it for sure but mine is barely noticeable.