Galaxy W hurts my eyes - Samsung Galaxy W I8150

Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?

sevenmad said:
Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?
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Nope. Try setting your brightness. Be diligent: tweak the brightness whenever your ambient lighting changed.
After all, changing the brightness on a Samsung Android device is a simple swipe across the status bar.
-- Galaxy W + DXKL1 + CM9 + xda --

sevenmad said:
Hi,
Does this happen to you too? It seems when i look at the screen of the phone for 20 mins (or sometimes even less than that- like 5 minutes or so!) my eyes begin to hurt. Because of that i cant even read books much because of the small font (in pdf) and the screen.
Is this because of the HVGA screen? Do you think this will be solved with a SAMOLED phone?
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Aside from the advise above, also set your system font size to become bigger. If that still doesn't help, you'll need a phone with a bigger display. Just make sure, the newer one will have a pixel density that would be higher or at least equal to what we have on our wonder (250+ ppi). My cousin had the same experience and found out it was the low pixel density of his phone's screen that was causing his headaches.
I hope this helps.
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I have tried changing the brightness but it didnt help much.... perhaps the prblm is with my own eyes...

sevenmad said:
I have tried changing the brightness but it didnt help much.... perhaps the prblm is with my own eyes...
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I read quite alot books in Cool Reader with Old Paper background and trying to have backlight as low as possible. I read in public transport in daylight or in a complete darkness at the night. And I can say taht after half of hour my eyes get tired, but does not hurt me. I have eye corretion +0.5 on left and -0.75 on right and not wearing any glasses.
Anyway - if your eyes HURT, I would strongly recomend e-ink book reader. And visit your doctor!
Good luck!

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[Q] Just got my nexus, the screen dimming is annoying. help please.

I just got my Galaxy nexus (an hour ago), and I'm getting around using it pretty well except for one thing which is annoying me big time.
The screen seems to dim or change its color balance when viewing certain things. Whites are usually dimmed at most times, but when I view other things, the dimness goes away and whites become very radiant.
It seems like the phone is adjusting automatically to things on the screen for the sake of energy saving. How do i disable this!?
Yes, I have my Brightness on manual and set to full. That is not the issue.
okay wow this is getting annoying... Two more issues:
1-The thing won't transfer files while im using windows 7 "the device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". When using OSX Lion, it isn't even detected.
2-There is chinese text here and there no matter what I do for language settings.
This is my first android phone ever, and I'm not liking the experience so far...
Look, I've tried searching for these two issues, and I did not find any threads with them resolved. Maybe I'm computer illiterate. Maybe I have a very low IQ, but can you just help me resolve these issues IF you know how to resolve them without just going into my thread and be like "Oh look, another noob", and proceed with leaving?
PS: I AM A NOOB.
Protip 1. Read up on amoled technology a little. And then read some of the issues some phones like galaxy s2 had. Your dimming is normal. It sounds like you're just more sensitive to it.
Protip 2. Download the appropriate drivers. In device manager, you want it to say android adb interface when you're phone is plugged in.
Protip 3. Take a chill pill. It is okay to be a noob. It happens. Your attitude comes off as annoying or you're freaking out over nothing. Solving problems take time and we are not sorry xda can solve them instantly for you. Patience, amigo.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
You might try turning of Auto Brightness and set it somewhere you feel comfortable... I just decided when I got this phone that I'd make myself get used to the adjustments and it's worked out well.
IMHO the adjustments going from white to black are less noticeable on 4.0.3
As far as the dimming, you have Auto Brightness on. Go to settings, screen and set the brightness to something else.
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Is_907 said:
You might try turning of Auto Brightness and set it somewhere you feel comfortable... I just decided when I got this phone that I'd make myself get used to the adjustments and it's worked out well.
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GinoSylum said:
As far as the dimming, you have Auto Brightness on. Go to settings, screen and set the brightness to something else.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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I take it you missed the part where the op said his brightness is set on manual?
samsung drivers
for the drivers use this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20311264
PDAnet installs the drivers for you nice and easy, then you can remove from your phone and pc and the drivers will stay behind.
at this time there is no way to disable the screen dimming function. samsung's other phones have this feature as well, with an option to disable it in settings. its a power saving feature. for whatever reason google did not give any option to turn this on or off. so for now we have to wait if maybe a ROM can disable it.
For OSX you need to download Android file transfer for it to be seen.
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Thank you everyone ...Sorry for the attitude earlier.
It seems like I got one of the GNexus phones which have a really good screen (The colors are just mind blowing), its only the dimming thing which is getting in the way. Also, I've tried to update to 4.0.3 and checked out the developer's section of the GNexus forum, but the steps are kind of overwhelming and I'm having my final exams at university right now, so I'll have to wait for a week to just sit back and read everything slowly and correctly.
One more thing, is there a download link to the official 4.0.3 mod ? It seems like everyone here prefers modded images one way or another.
lol. the dimming you are referring to is probably from current draw or a trait inherent to amoled. some people have mentioned they notice "dimming" like on white background browser and you pop up your keyboard. the white will get dimmer or yellower, or black more grayish. this is what you're talking about?
pukemon said:
lol. the dimming you are referring to is probably from current draw or a trait inherent to amoled. some people have mentioned they notice "dimming" like on white background browser and you pop up your keyboard. the white will get dimmer or yellower, or black more grayish. this is what you're talking about?
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Its the opposite. When you draw the keyboard out, the whites get brighter and stronger. I don't have yellowing on my phone (thank god), but I do have dimming.
top make it simple:
The more the blacks = The brighter/stronger the whites.
Clearly a voltage issue for power consumption's sake. As the phone physically switches of diodes to achieve true blacks, more energy flows to lit diodes and they in turn become brighter.
Isn't there some sort of tweak deep enough to give full power to all diodes at all times regardless of what's on the screen (Full power even if the entire screen is white) ?
Firstly, welcome to Android. Once you get used to it you'll love it. I gave the same problem Windows 7 sometimes usually large video files and need to say that the adb drivers are not required to transfer files to the phone - I don't have them installed and I can still transfer data.
I have to say this is my first amoled device and I haven't noticed any dimming unless I have auto brightness on of course which I understand you don't.
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BLL00 said:
Its the opposite. When you draw the keyboard out, the whites get brighter and stronger. I don't have yellowing on my phone (thank god), but I do have dimming.
top make it simple:
The more the blacks = The brighter/stronger the whites.
Clearly a voltage issue for power consumption's sake. As the phone physically switches of diodes to achieve true blacks, more energy flows to lit diodes and they in turn become brighter.
Isn't there some sort of tweak deep enough to give full power to all diodes at all times regardless of what's on the screen (Full power even if the entire screen is white) ?
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ah yes. you're correct. i had it backwards.
I have the same issue with transferring large amounts of data using Windows 7. Looking for a fix too.
Investing the time to learn how to setup the SDK and using ADB will be well worth it.
BLL00 said:
Its the opposite. When you draw the keyboard out, the whites get brighter and stronger. I don't have yellowing on my phone (thank god), but I do have dimming.
top make it simple:
The more the blacks = The brighter/stronger the whites.
Clearly a voltage issue for power consumption's sake. As the phone physically switches of diodes to achieve true blacks, more energy flows to lit diodes and they in turn become brighter.
Isn't there some sort of tweak deep enough to give full power to all diodes at all times regardless of what's on the screen (Full power even if the entire screen is white) ?
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Out of the three results I found searching for this topic, I'm glad I checked this thread.
The exact thing I was wondering was:
Is there any way to disable the screen from getting brighter when my keyboard comes up on the screen?
From reading your response, it seems that the screen getting brighter is a result of the design of the screen, suggesting that there is no way to stop it from happening. The only thing I've been able to do to make the screen remain at the brightness I set it is to change the theme of my keyboard to a brighter or lighter color based theme.
I'm using Swiftkey with the Neon keyboard, it looks great and I love it!
I had a Samsung Vibrant previously to the Galaxy Nexus, and there indeed was a "Power Saving Option" in the settings and if I remember correctly that stopped the screen from getting brighter with the keyboard on screen. Has any fix / ability to change this on a stock Galaxy Nexus running JB been found? It's just barely annoying enough for me to notice it, plus I'm a stickler for more battery life and I can feel my battery dying the brighter the screen gets. ( I know this last part may be a mental thing, but still. Haha. )

[Q] Screen flickering (CRT like)

Hi,
EDIT
Resolved it (kinda), I shut the "Economy mode" and the screen stop the flickering....
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I'm creating a new thread for this problem got an answer there telling me it's my phone, but I would like to know if somebody else notice this.
It's like on good old CRT. Got a Note I (got stolen) bought a Note 2 and I can see a flickering, like if the display had a 60Hz refresh rate, never notice such a thing with the Note I.
It's more noticeable on white screens. And when you are using peripheral vision, by pointing your eyes like 10 centimeters from the side of the device, the flickering must be more visible
The effect looks like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jHOwE8MqA not mine but can give an idea of the problem.
Thanks
Livebyte said:
YES I HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM.
I was worried sick that my phone might be going dead soon.
And I'm talking about Note 1 here.
I don't want to waste money on a Note 2. I don't want burn my wallet again! ):
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Never notice it with my Note I, it seems that it's partly due to AMOLED technology, but as I did not notice it on my Note I...
Maybe it varies form device to device...
The effect looks like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jHOwE8MqA
Livebyte said:
YES I HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM.
I was worried sick that my phone might be going dead soon.
And I'm talking about Note 1 here.
I don't want to waste money on a Note 2. I don't want burn my wallet again! ):
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It's Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Livebyte said:
Yes I have it, but mine is definitely more severe than yours.
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Then why didn't you return it under warranty?
Go to Display > Features > Smart Rotation . Disable Smart rotation and voila the problem is resolved....
BoneXDA said:
It's Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
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Don't feed the troll
Ok, so if you do not own this device the Note 2, and do not want the device, why chime in and post/comments...
My scraan is flickering too. Feels like old CRT TV. When brightness not at 100% level I can observe this problem. Looks like samsung using PWM to control brightness. I think this is terrible. And I hope this can be fixed by software (adjust brightness by gamma correction etc)
mine also sometimes flickering on the lock screen in the near clock area for about 0,5-1 sec. but no need to worry, i guess its a hidden samsung note 2 feature...
So there are no solutions to fix screen flickering? Maybe we can overclock screen somehow? Maybe alternative brightness control?
The screen flicker mus be due to a bad batch of screens. Mine had the screen flickering too. and even with economy mode shut down and brightness is set to less then 100%. if you rapidly move the phone you can see that you see several screens instead of a blurry moving screen. this way you know it flickers. so for example if you move your phone up and down very rapidly instead of seeing a blurry view of the screen you will see several edges of the screen simultaniously. this tells you its flickering. While just looking at the screen you wont actually see the flickering but its somehow disturbing.
The way i know that your screen is defect is because due to a rescent replacement of my screen on my note 2 the flickering is totally gone now.
But keep in mind that my battery usages with screen on has increased. so i think samsung changed the power management for these new screens so that they wont flicker anymore. but they consume more power now. first i used the screen 6,5 hours and had a standby of 24 hours. now i have 6 hours screen on time with 24 hours standby. so its a bit of a change though. I just tested it 1 time. so it could also be i used the phone in another way when getting only 6 hours.
But just to let you guys know the flickering can be fixed.

[Q] Question about super amoled burn-in

this is driving me crazy :| i keep reading stuff about "amoled burn-in" issue and blab blab how it gets the notification bar all screwed up and other stuff
i got myself a "Galaxy tab s LTE T705" wich has samsungs newest super amoled technology
and now that i read all this stuff it scares me :| is it really true ? or its just some issue with old technology
and has been fixed or improved in new devices , anyone with any updated info can help ? thanks
Well, its still possible to get even on the newer ones. I believe they should be improved now as samsungs tab 7.7 didnt do so well. As long as you dont keep your brightness at 100% and are on facebook or a social media app for more then 4-6 hours straight then you should be fine. Watching videos and other stuff shouldnt give you any screen burns. The notification bar is black in which things that are black stay fully black. So that means that it shouldn't burn in from just black or dark colors and saves battery too.
If you want, you can read more on how super amoled works. Something about dark colors does something bla bla bla. But it shouldnt be a problem if you are a movie watcher or web surfer Hope this helps!
Btw i also made a thread on this issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3009478
I've never seen this happen ever. And I do and did all the things to excess on my Galaxy S2.
Sent from my Galaxy S5
thanks a lot man , with all you said i dont think if it can happen to me since i'm super duper careful when it comes to my stuff , i always have my brightness on like 20-40% max not cuz of screen burn-in but cuz its totaly enough for me since im suing the device mostly under a roof , and also i have my status bar on auto hide thanks to nova launcher , yea i do play games and watch vids kinda a lot and read stuff on my tablet since the screen is so bloody amazing . all im Q.Qing about is lollipop update for it which will be available soon as i heard ! so yey
Of all the things in the world i worry about amoled burn in isn't one of them! Don't let it ruin your life! Enjoy!
Sent from my SM-N910P
thanks man appreciate it i will as much as i can already in love with the device tbh it is indeed best tablet samsung has made so far "galaxy tab s LTE" ^^
mamali.z said:
this is driving me crazy :| i keep reading stuff about "amoled burn-in" issue and blab blab how it gets the notification bar all screwed up and other stuff
i got myself a "Galaxy tab s LTE T705" wich has samsungs newest super amoled technology
and now that i read all this stuff it scares me :| is it really true ? or its just some issue with old technology
and has been fixed or improved in new devices , anyone with any updated info can help ? thanks
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There is no such burn in BUT, there is this ghosting in Tab S 8.4 where, when the brightness is low, and u have anythung on screen, ANYTHING, when u scroll, the blacks show ghosting.
I have tried this in every possible scenario and it shows ghosting of the sceeen. There is also this ghosting kinda thing going on when, agaon , when brightness is low, the drop down notifivatipn bar shows bluish tint same as it was in Galaxy S5. I think this secondroblem os software related cause as i remember it was fixed by samsung. But the ghosting part is issue with all the AMOLEDS. Its still not fixed.
Try yours in low brightness and in some dark room or place, u will see it easily, btw i myself have tried this in 3 different models 3 8.4 and 1 model of 10.5 Tab S
aami.aami said:
There is no such burn in BUT, there is this ghosting in Tab S 8.4 where, when the brightness is low, and u have anythung on screen, ANYTHING, when u scroll, the blacks show ghosting.
I have tried this in every possible scenario and it shows ghosting of the sceeen. There is also this ghosting kinda thing going on when, agaon , when brightness is low, the drop down notifivatipn bar shows bluish tint same as it was in Galaxy S5. I think this secondroblem os software related cause as i remember it was fixed by samsung. But the ghosting part is issue with all the AMOLEDS. Its still not fixed.
Try yours in low brightness and in some dark room or place, u will see it easily, btw i myself have tried this in 3 different models 3 8.4 and 1 model of 10.5 Tab S
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LOL LOL LOL man its so funny how i noticed this like 2 days ago myself and i thought there is something wrong with my eyes it happened with some dark purple icon as i was swiping between pages it doesnt bother me tbh i mean its nothing to ruin your experience with this beautiful piece of screen , atleast not for me but yea i did noticed it too besides that i have never crossed anything wrong with the screen , brightness is amazing even 20% is enough under a roof and outside its perfectly clear too with some bumping on brightness ,

Burn-in: does anyone have it yet? How paranoid should we be?

Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
dunjamon said:
I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
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I had the GWR for almost a year too. Always used watchfaces that are 'always on' (so no dimmed mode without background) and always had the charging animation on by night. Never experienced any burn-in.
I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
mszach said:
I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
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Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
improvius said:
Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
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The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
mszach said:
The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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hell no, wtf!!
it is very bad, sorry for that, were you using this watchface long time ago? what is the watch face look like in ambient mode? maybe the watch got really hot, and screen on while charging. i started to worry about the screen quality of this watch.
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i have seen this is your first day, i think maybe a faulty screen
Yeah, I'm wondering if your watch just froze in full display mode overnight.
mszach said:
The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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That deserves an RMA and you deserve a new replacement watch.
I sometimes get lag on mine, im not sure if it's actual lag or whether im doing something wrong but as someone mentioned if the watch went full brightness and is charging then the heat might have done it?
I returned it yesterday to best buy. Lucky me though. . they had cyber Monday deals and it was on sale for $50 less! !
I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
dieselboy said:
I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
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yes, this is an android wear burn in protection buy moving a few pixels in all directions, works very good if you don't have large objects in the ambient mode, and won't help much if you have.
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
dj.kure said:
I have the same problem
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Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
rusty.gh said:
In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
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Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
dj.kure said:
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
Lepa79 said:
****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
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Default watchface "Explorer".
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ShrekOpher said:
Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
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Do you mean "Factory reset"? I did it, but nothing has changed.
ac16313 said:
Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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I'm not going to start it by saying you're right, am I? Samsung didn't make changes to anything in light output the only thing that's changed is adaptive screen color which is meant to adapt the screen contrast to show what's on screen in the best possible colors. There is no new technology that will stop burn in. You must not have understood me. The image wiggle is a software attempt to stop screen burn in from happening but it won't stop it just slow it down. Screen burn in will continue to be a thing until the panels we use change technology. I didn't say that nothing has been made to prevent it.
And if you sense attitude in a straightforward response that's on you. I'll let karma deal with that comment. I personally don't get screen burn in and I've had a SAMOLED device since the Samsung Epic. I just understand how to prevent it. But just because I've never had it I won't tell people that they're overly concerned about screen burn in.

MTCB Joying Display flickering and "burned in" picture

Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
messiah said:
Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
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Sounds like a screen issue to me, have you checked the ribbon connector hasnt come slightly undone ?
Hi, thanks for answering.
Attached is the video I spoke about. I missed to upload it.
You mean to open the device and check the ribbon connector inside, right?
Regards
edit: the video
messiah said:
Hey there,
I have some issues with the MTCB. Someone had these before?
First problem which is already quite annoying is that pictures are kind of burned in and still show shadows on the other screen
Second problem which is even more bad is that the display flickers. This is more or less obvious in different scenes.
When looking closely it seems like there is a grid (coming and going in the same frequence like the music is playing?). The attached video shows it.
Especially with white background the flickering gets very bad.
Don't know if this could be related to the Malaysk Firmware I use. Or is is it a hardware issue?
Also contacted the support. Let's see what they say...
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This is commom in these units.
It's worst when it's hot.
I kinda fixed mine opening it and adjusting some kind of screw near the screen. You turn it and screen gets darker, you need to find a point between too dark and flickering. But when I park my car at the sun, and it gets hot inside, screen get bright again, so flickering and persistent images.
And here is a video about it.
pczao said:
This is commom in these units.
It's worst when it's hot.
I kinda fixed mine opening it and adjusting some kind of screw near the screen. You turn it and screen gets darker, you need to find a point between too dark and flickering. But when I park my car at the sun, and it gets hot inside, screen get bright again, so flickering and persistent images.
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Personally I wouldnt say "common" - I ve only hear about 3 people mention it in the last 3 years.
typos1 said:
Personally I wouldnt say "common" - I ve only hear about 3 people mention it in the last 3 years.
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It's commom. That's why Joying even put a video online to show how to fix it.
I believe that when they produce the unit, it's now well tuned up, or it's cold in the factory and they don't realize, so when someone who lives in a hot weather area install it, the problem appears.
It's a bad hardware design, they use analog potentiometer, they should use some digital and automatic one to regulate screen frequency.
pczao said:
It's commom. That's why Joying even put a video online to show how to fix it.
I believe that when they produce the unit, it's now well tuned up, or it's cold in the factory and they don't realize, so when someone who lives in a hot weather area install it, the problem appears.
It's a bad hardware design, they use analog potentiometer, they should use some digital and automatic one to regulate screen frequency.
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Well, Like I said, I ve not heard much about it in the 3 years I ve been following the threads on here, but I do remember Joyous having problems with their screens and 5.1.1 - they couldnt get 5.1.1 to work on their 4.4.4 RK3188 units unless the screen was changed !! Sounds like its more a problem with Joyous units.
I agree there's not many complaints about this problem here, that's why I believe that may be some "quality check" sloppiness. It's very simple to solve anyway.
But all units seems to use analog potentiometer, so, bad design. There's nothing to do with Joying only and the fact they changed screen to update to 5.1.1.
And most users in this forum don't live in hot weather areas. In my case, Brazil, is hot must time of the year, above 34 C degrees (93 F), in the shade.
pczao said:
I agree there's not many complaints about this problem here, that's why I believe that may be some "quality check" sloppiness. It's very simple to solve anyway.
But all units seems to use analog potentiometer, so, bad design. There's nothing to do with Joying only and the fact they changed screen to update to 5.1.1.
And most users in this forum don't live in hot weather areas. In my case, Brazil, is hot must time of the year, above 34 C degrees (93 F), in the shade.
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Thanks for reminding me that its only 4 C degrees here in the UK
typos1 said:
Thanks for reminding me that its only 4 C degrees here in the UK
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Don't make me jealous!!
UK weather is great. I've been there once, liked very much.
Some friends are going to travel there later this month. I'm unable to go because my daughter is too young.
pczao said:
Don't make me jealous!!
UK weather is great. I've been there once, liked very much.
Some friends are going to travel there later this month. I'm unable to go because my daughter is too young.
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Youre envious of 4 deg C ?! I get 34 deg C is a bit hot, but 4 is a bit cold !
Half way between 4 and 34 @ 19 deg C would be perfect
typos1 said:
Youre envious of 4 deg C ?! I get 34 deg C is a bit hot, but 4 is a bit cold !
Half way between 4 and 34 @ 19 deg C would be perfect
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Agreed!
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Agreed!
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Lol, meet you in St.Helena, thats about half way init?
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Lol, meet you in St.Helena, thats about half way init?
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I looked at the map and St. Helena is a little to the south, a direct flight seems a better option.
But feel welcome if you want to come to Brazil someday.
It's a bit messy but it's a good country. I'm not going to take you to meet any favela, by the way. Don't know why tourists are so eager to go in one, it's very dangerous, and I don't think they represent Brazil that much, so many different beatiful places to go.
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I looked at the map and St. Helena is a little to the south, a direct flight seems a better option.
But feel welcome if you want to come to Brazil someday.
It's a bit messy but it's a good country. I'm not going to take you to meet any favela, by the way. Don't know why tourists are so eager to go in one, it's very dangerous, and I don't think they represent Brazil that much, so many different beatiful places to go.
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dont worry, slums were not the first thing on my mind when thinking about Brazil
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And here is a video about it.
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Hey there, thanks but the video is not working.
I did not open the unit yet to check if the screw will improve. But I will test soon when I find some time.
By the way it's around 0°C here. So not very warm
Attached is another video. The flickering of the right white picture is actually visible. It's not a flickering of the camera.
messiah said:
Hey there, thanks but the video is not working.
I did not open the unit yet to check if the screw will improve. But I will test soon when I find some time.
By the way it's around 0°C here. So not very warm
Attached is another video. The flickering of the right white picture is actually visible. It's not a flickering of the camera.
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Here's the link of the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GsRriCgZzd4
Just open the unit and fix it, very easy.
Took some time until I tried the fix. But the screw fixed it.
Carjoy recommended a power filter, but since the screw fixed it i prefer this...
The screen is now slightly darker. But I like the crisp image and better saturation of the colors (and of course no flicker).
Thanks!
messiah said:
Took some time until I tried the fix. But the screw fixed it.
Carjoy recommended a power filter, but since the screw fixed it i prefer this...
The screen is now slightly darker. But I like the crisp image and better saturation of the colors (and of course no flicker).
Thanks!
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Does the unit have to be powered on when tighten the screw?
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