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Access your WD 2tb Passport HD with OTG and Power bank

What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.

aznduk said:
What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Really nice to run across this! I have a 1TB WD Passport, OTG cable, an Anker external battery, and Nexus Media Importer and they work great with this setup. I had tried a powered USB hub and it worked but this is much better from my perspective - hadn't thought of trying the battery pack.
Interestingly, I also have 2 500GB WD Passports that worked without additional power on my 2012 N7 but they won't work without additional power on my 2013 N7.
Thanks for the post!
Dave

aznduk said:
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.

does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb

mtbvfr said:
Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
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yes, im currently on cm10.2 m1(milestone) rom with stock kernal. playing videos straight off hd tends to reboot my device. Let me know if you get similar issues. i find copying the file into the sd storage is the most stable way. hopefully CyanogenMod will come up with an update that corrects this problem

Midnight Marauder said:
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
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It works with any hd drive that doesnt require an outlet plug

Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??

TehFonz said:
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
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No. It appears that a single external drive/memory device is the limit (at least on a stock unit).

I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?

Midnight Marauder said:
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
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No, I'm stock.

I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?

vinceboiii said:
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
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Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.

ahh right need that app too okay thanks. I will give this a try after I move and settle in.

Clarify cable connection
I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?

kennybellew said:
I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
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I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave

sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone

sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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Thanks. That helps.

cobyman7035 said:
is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
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Probably are - Amazon was convenient. As for speed, I don't have a way to measure transfer speeds but I do know it is fast and in no way impedes video file viewing direct from the HDD. Using on a laptop, I can see that it does give true USB 3.0 transfer speeds.

sparksd said:
Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
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You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.

aznduk said:
You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
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True - I was responding from the perspective of a stock device. I haven't seen the reboots - are you overclocking with Cm?

Biggest Flash drive?

I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub

Anyone?

Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb

128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
Sent from my SM-N910P

There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5

128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?

Guntert said:
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.

Can't wait to see what u find

I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.

Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.

[Q] Recommended External Storage?

I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

IMHO without root you can not use any external media since USB mounting is not supported out-of-the-box.

Raymondo17 said:
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which
is IMHO totaly fine.

How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.

Calibaan said:
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
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Your device must be rooted.

Ah, OK so nothing new. Thought I´ve missed something.

I'm using an older Western Digital My Passport 320gb and mounted my internal data to it. I connected it to a small powered hub and also have a wireless mouse/keyboard dongle and wireless game controller connected to the hub. It works wonderfully. Only a slight delay compared to having data still on the FTV itself.

Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.

KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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Exactly. I first tried a flash drive I had laying around. It turned my FTV into a slow crawl.

derpeter said:
I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which is IMHO totaly fine.
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Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?

Raymondo17 said:
Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
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Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.

derpeter said:
Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
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Excellent. Thanks for the info.

I used my old 128gb ssd samsung evo 840 as whole System. fast like normal System. No slowdown. i use an active usb 4 Port hub also connected Xbox 360 Wireless Transmitter usb dongle for Wireless mouse+Keyboard. One Thinge i can't use a Second harddrive as external.
dowsn't Sebamed to work as i use datatousb from cwm Post. Maybe only usererror. bussymount killed my Setup (Boot from usb)
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USB3 Support?

Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?

jbleasdale said:
Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?
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For now there is no support for 3.0 whatsoever on these units. Some people however did report a 1TB external HDD to be supported, most likely externaly powered.

None include usb3.0 ports. Your harddrive should still be backward compatible and run at the slower speed, however would need a power source as provided power is weak

Exteneral USB M2 Sata Supported but not MSata?

I was able to get an M2 Sata Adapter to work and a new WD 1TB external drive but an Msata and an older 500gb WD will not... Ideas? - Drives are able to be seen on PC.

XE-Cherokee said:
I was able to get an M2 Sata Adapter to work and a new WD 1TB external drive but an Msata and an older 500gb WD will not... Ideas? - Drives are able to be seen on PC.
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It's the power requirements of those adapters. Powered USB hub should work. Same reason my stock work dell kb works but not my Logitech g910. But with a powered hub it works fine.

Okay, that's what I was leaning towards. Older devices having higher power requirements. Any knowledge or recommendations of portable powered usb hubs?

XE-Cherokee said:
Okay, that's what I was leaning towards. Older devices having higher power requirements. Any knowledge or recommendations of portable powered usb hubs?
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Not really. Anything with a quality name behind it.

bignazpwns said:
Not really. Anything with a quality name behind it.
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Okay so far I have been able to get the M2sata drive, 500gb WD USB Drive, and the 1 TB WD USB Drive to work on my Z2 Force just not he USB Msata Drive.
However the Msata Drive works on a Galaxy S7 and My PC just fine. Thoughts?