So since buying the PD I've had no updates. No monthly security patch. Nothing, nada, zilch.
Is this what life with a Huawei device is like? Buy it then bugger off? I've not owned a Huawei before.
The Mate 9 has on the other hand received a couple of updates so far.
Is it tied into to Pro and therefore until sales ramp up not much will be incoming?
I'm looking forward the S8 if this is the cases! And it'll be my last Huawei device.:silly:
bonerp said:
So since buying the PD I've had no updates. No monthly security patch. Nothing, nada, zilch.
Is this what life with a Huawei device is like? Buy it then bugger off? I've not owned a Huawei before.
The Mate 9 has on the other hand received a couple of updates so far.
Is it tied into to Pro and therefore until sales ramp up not much will be incoming?
I'm looking forward the S8 if this is the cases! And it'll be my last Huawei device.:silly:
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Ha!
I was thinking exactly the same thing!!
It's a beautiful phone though!
I'm hoping the next update gets the Barclays Bank apps working soon. It's a pain not being able to do mobile banking
I got an update as soon as I first started it...this was on Dec 15th and it was the B138, then nothing more.
Different release schedules are irritating as well. European users are still waiting for the B156 firmware which was released in some countries more than a month ago. These countries are even getting a newer B16x release already, which I suppose will reach Europe by April if we get lucky.
I got my first update to pro version this week. I like the device also but if this is how the software updates to I will also leave Huawei for good after this
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CandyAndy said:
I got my first update to pro version this week. I like the device also but if this is how the software updates to I will also leave Huawei for good after this
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I'm guessing Scandinavia? Samsung isn't any better, neither is LG - the best bet would actually be Google Pixel, which might also be left in the dark. When it comes to software updates, the Android ecosystem sucks BADLY.
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I'm guessing Scandinavia? Samsung isn't any better, neither is LG - the best bet would actually be Google Pixel, which might also be left in the dark. When it comes to software updates, the Android ecosystem sucks BADLY.
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At least Samsung provided monthly security patches (later than google) for its latest devices.
Same thing here, no updates since December.
Can't really complain about any serious bugs though, wish they would fine tune the auto rightness a bit better but oh well.
No update on the pro either (even though I know it available in some regions )
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Hi,
same here and cam really pissed for a device with 1400 EUR.
Also having a Mate 9 with several updates between Dec. and now.
Ihm missing mostly volTE and Wifi Calling. So much needed here.
I askes several times Huawei and get no feedback. What happen at Huawei?
I sent an email to huawei complaining about this:
"Bought my PD Mate 9 in december and firmware version is stil B138. No security patches since then, although on asian models there has been several updates. It is a miserable policy of your company. This is my third and last huawei phone"
and their reply was:
"The updating of our equipment is carried out in accordance with the specificities that our models present in terms of software and even in terms of hardware (equipment capacities), depending on the region to which they are destined to commercialization. Given this fact, there may be models available in other regions for which a certain update has already been made available in the sense of a security patch, and making this update available for other models may be made later. However we remember that the equipment model that indicates us already operates with the latest operating system version and user interface and it will be a matter of time until the equipment receives updates of this version, namely of security patches"
A politically correct reply but meaning nothing!!
pasil.pt said:
I sent an email to huawei complaining about this:
"Bought my PD Mate 9 in december and firmware version is stil B138. No security patches since then, although on asian models there has been several updates. It is a miserable policy of your company. This is my third and last huawei phone"
and their reply was:
"The updating of our equipment is carried out in accordance with the specificities that our models present in terms of software and even in terms of hardware (equipment capacities), depending on the region to which they are destined to commercialization. Given this fact, there may be models available in other regions for which a certain update has already been made available in the sense of a security patch, and making this update available for other models may be made later. However we remember that the equipment model that indicates us already operates with the latest operating system version and user interface and it will be a matter of time until the equipment receives updates of this version, namely of security patches"
A politically correct reply but meaning nothing!!
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Hello
this is not political correct and you should answer here urgently back:
Porsche Mate 9 / Pro or Mate 9 are similar based and Mate 9 gots a lot of updates in security area.
So what is the problem to get the security fixes here?
Android 7.0.1 is not save without monthly fixes.
So Huawei talks bull****.
You should feedback them
For me:
I will sell my PD and go back to Samsung or Apple. Here you get proper updates / fixes. Very important for us in a world, where Wikileaks is telling you, how many phones will be hacked on security based things.
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Hello
this is not political correct and you should answer here urgently back:
Porsche Mate 9 / Pro or Mate 9 are similar based and Mate 9 gots a lot of updates in security area.
So what is the problem to get the security fixes here?
Android 7.0.1 is not save without monthly fixes.
So Huawei talks bull****.
You should feedback them
For me:
I will sell my PD and go back to Samsung or Apple. Here you get proper updates / fixes. Very important for us in a world, where Wikileaks is telling you, how many phones will be hacked on security based things.
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You are absolutelly right. But I contacted Huawei international and the reply comes from office in Portugal. They can do nothing but wait for instructions from Huawei Headquarters.
But I will reply and let you know here any feedback
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You are absolutelly right. But I contacted Huawei international and the reply comes from office in Portugal. They can do nothing but wait for instructions from Huawei Headquarters.
But I will reply and let you know here any feedback
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Great!
I did the same in Germany.
Meanwhile going back to iPhone 7
In a new reply they say that updates are out of their competence and so i should wait. But iphone or samsung are not options as do not take 2 sim's
I've just had a thought..
Are we going about this the wrong way?
The brand is Porsche Design, and surely they wouldn't want their customers being let down, it looks bad on them...
Maybe we should all complain to them?
I've sent them a message on Facebook, might be worth a try if everyone makes a point of contacting them then they might put some pressure for some updates to be released?
Clearly Huawei has made this phone, then left it and is looking after its own brand.
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I've just had a thought..
Are we going about this the wrong way?
The brand is Porsche Design, and surely they wouldn't want their customers being let down, it looks bad on them...
Maybe we should all complain to them?
I've sent them a message on Facebook, might be worth a try if everyone makes a point of contacting them then they might put some pressure for some updates to be released?
Clearly Huawei has made this phone, then left it and is looking after its own brand.
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What you suggest can be done but I don't think it will be any worth. First, PD is a luxury ralated company and I believe most of their customers buy the phone and don´t worry abou updates and even less about freelance developers. But most important is that huawei also sells mate 9 PRO, which only differs from PD on memory (125 Gb instead of 250) and colour/stylistic finnishing.
So much more people who buy mate 9 PRO are left without updates.
I think that key pouit is about International models Vs Asian ones (these are updated more often).
But even about this, I remember that when I bought my Mate 8 from wondamobile they adviced me to wait for the international version, as they told that asian versions were not so reliable.I have no idea if this is true, but it is what I was told. But if it is true maybe that explains why asian models get more updates
pasil.pt said:
What you suggest can be done but I don't think it will be any worth. First, PD is a luxury ralated company and I believe most of their customers buy the phone and don´t worry abou updates and even less about freelance developers. But most important is that huawei also sells mate 9 PRO, which only differs from PD on memory (125 Gb instead of 250) and colour/stylistic finnishing.
So much more people who buy mate 9 PRO are left without updates.
I think that key pouit is about International models Vs Asian ones (these are updated more often).
But even about this, I remember that when I bought my Mate 8 from wondamobile they adviced me to wait for the international version, as they told that asian versions were not so reliable.I have no idea if this is true, but it is what I was told. But if it is true maybe that explains why asian models get more updates
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Sounds like you PD buyers have a raw deal here.. I bought a Mate 9 Pro and I have had 1 OTA update from B139 (my base when i bought it) to B156 since I purchased it back in Feb. And looks like today theyve started to roll out B172 for Mate 9 Pro too.
I check the following site to see when new OTA's are in the wild: (dont bother trying to download these files and apply them yourself, it doesnt work).
http://hwmt.ru/oth/HWFF/info/view.php?find_model=LON-L29
Then usually within a week or two (depends), they usually either show up in my phone or if I want them sooner Firmware Finder can download and push them to the Huawei Updater for me.
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Sounds like you PD buyers have a raw deal here.. I bought a Mate 9 Pro and I have had 1 OTA update from B139 (my base when i bought it) to B156 since I purchased it back in Feb. And looks like today theyve started to roll out B172 for Mate 9 Pro too.
I check the following site to see when new OTA's are in the wild: (dont bother trying to download these files and apply them yourself, it doesnt work).
http://hwmt.ru/oth/HWFF/info/view.php?find_model=LON-L29
Then usually within a week or two (depends), they usually either show up in my phone or if I want them sooner Firmware Finder can download and push them to the Huawei Updater for me.
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So i guess charmz2k2 was right and we, PD owners, are left alone. I can mail PD shop but I think they will reply me that has nothing to do with them
I totally think we've been screwed over. The phone cost twice the price of Pro (over twice the price of Mate 9) yet the warranty isn't as good and no updates.
I certainly won't be hooked by designer branding on phones again. Porsche should know better (how to treat its customers) whereas Huawei is like any chinese phone manufacturer and be out for itself. Disappointing. Waste of £600 in 3 months.
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Will try to update using firmware finder. Post results
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I totally think we've been screwed over. The phone cost twice the price of Pro (over twice the price of Mate 9) yet the warranty isn't as good and no updates.
I certainly won't be hooked by designer branding on phones again. Porsche should know better (how to treat its customers) whereas Huawei is like any chinese phone manufacturer and be out for itself. Disappointing. Waste of £600 in 3 months.
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https://www.facebook.com/porschedesigngroup/
That's the group i sent the message to...
Let's all give it a go then..
Surely PD will have more pressure on them than us??
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Will try to update using firmware finder. Post results
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Ok so that shows that there are a few updates for March...
Maybe it's on its way then?
I also mentioned about the crappy screen protection.. given the price, we should get at least gg5 surely??
Related
I know we didn't get the first firmware update, that supposedly increased battery usage, performance etc, but maybe we get this one?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/11/21/samsung-galaxy-note-4-getting-another-over-the-air-update/
That's for international phones and since we are not rooted and don't have custom recovery for AT&T we can't use it
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I'm sure you will see one shortly anyways for the gear vr . It was stated during oculus connect that a ota will have to roll out in front of the release. Which the release is scheduled for beginning of December. That is unless the update will only push if you have it connected to the VR. I guess only time will tell.
AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does) could do 1 of 3 things
1) Release the first update, then the second, then lollipop (least likely)
2) Release a combined update with both the first and second updates (possible, though unlikely, maybe this is why the didn't bother with the first one)
3) Don't release anything ecept Lollipop. Logically, it would contain any previous updates in the 5.0 build (most likely what will happen)
#3 seems to be the main choice. I can't understand why AT&T or any other carrier would spend a single cent on software and development. It doesn't seem to fit what they do. They can push in their bloatware without holding back on everything. Maybe they do stability testing, and ensuring it doesn't effect the network stability, which I would understand, but minor updates are way toooooo hard to trickle down from the manufacturer to the end user.
I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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I was in bestbuy , all there phones are international. They all had a software update waiting. You couldn't stop it or force quit it, it was awesome. But with that said, the demo software security policy was making the update fall. Just about everyone of there note 4 was in endless full boot, try upgrade, restart.
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That IS awesome :laugh:
Yea I can't believe that situation with the gear vr needing a firmware update to work. If it's left to the carriers, a lot of early adopters may be stuck waiting. It doesn't work on any retail version of the phone right now, according to the oculus forums.
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AT&T (who should have no involvement in device updates, but in this great country of ours, does)
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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Wow... a bit aggressive of a response (but thats the internet for ya). Not many people here defending the carriers.
The international devices are not managed in the same way. I certainly understand testing for their network, but I am sure that the international networks are not crashing from lack of testing. The system in the US is out of date. Few, would argue it. Google certainly seems to thing so, they are unbundling much of their software to avoid dealing with the carriers on updates. Other companies like HTC have also begun releasing their included software as separate apps that can be updated via google play. There are many threads throughout XDA that call for eliminating the carriers from the updates system. I see it happening at some point, though not soon.
I for one am not against their blocking root. I like root, I have rooted many devices, but hacking a device to put on their network that can break their network, or exploit their resources, is an understandable precaution, however, withholding a firmware update issued by the manufacturer that provides either improved usability of a device, or fixes for discovered flaws seems extremely anti consumer and wrong.
I am very pro business, I don't hate the carriers, I understand what they do, and why they do it. I just don't like this 1 thing about them. Simple. I still want to know why they waste any of their resources on holding back and doing whatever to the updates before rolling them out, if they roll them out at all. If I had a GPE device or a Nexus device, they don't block the upgrades. iPhone either. (and I seriously doubt much advanced testing gets done on them by the carriers)
That is a great point at the end. IPhone. For as big as they've gotten, they don't block updates. I know people will say there aren't as many device variants etc. But most times the updates are available and carriers or specific manufactures hold them back or never release them.
AT&T blocking carrier firmware updates? Do we have any proof of this, or are we only assuming? I have heard in times past, this is what Google did to market the Android OS to the major carriers to get leaway on Apple. To make this "new" OS very appealing. To gain leverage.
1: to the device manufacturers - a free OS (or very cheep) that can be skinned to their hearts content.
2: to the carriers - to have any software installed, and not removed by customers. To have any form of limitations implemented for the sake of their business model.
arjun90 said:
I think I should asking, when does the AT&T Note 4 get Lollipop? Next Christmas in 2015?
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
What do we have here on this new update. Hi gear VR.
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It is being tested as we speak. Lollipop is a drastic code revision so they unfortunately have to make sure the "added" apps function properly. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't being released before Christmas.
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Someone, somewhere (sorry, I don't remember exactly where) had a photo of the actual (allegedly) working document with time tables and status updates from Samsung for Lollipop. It listed the Note 4, but NOT the AT&T version as "Final Testing" due in "January 15"
However, the point of this conversation is that it won't be rolled out to the carriers at the same time as the Samsung responsibility models are. So that date means very little. Well, if history serves, I seriously doubt that AT&T will release it before Samsung releases the international versions.
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Well, they like to test and quality the updates to make sure they don't enable features they don't allow or break their network. It's their network, so that's their right - as a free enterprise business in this great country we live in.
When you start your own billion dollar wireless network, you can approve updates however you see fit. Until then...
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@JasonJoel I just have to say, after reading your posts on this thread and another, I am pretty sure you are an AT&T Corp spy sent to XDA to get info and spin positive feedback for the company lol Kidding #notkidding
Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Lol. I can see how one might think that. But, no.
I'm not saying I like any of AT&T policies, my only point is that they have every right to do it and run their company however they want. I get annoyed when people say a business should / shouldn't be allowed to do things - too socialist for my tastes.
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Well said sir well said I agree with you overall on that.
This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
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This VR services **** better not be always running.
God damned ****ing bull**** censor. **** is the only word that's appropriate for VR.
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Lol. Delete that ****e.
Anyone here know if and when the Asus Zenfone 2 will launch in the US? There are mixed forums on the internet, MOST of which list April 2015 as the launch date in a bunch of countries ... 1 of which, is the US. Well, it is April now and I cannot find any official word about whether or not the ZF2 will launch in the US.
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Anyone here know if and when the Asus Zenfone 2 will launch in the US? There are mixed forums on the internet, MOST of which list April 2015 as the launch date in a bunch of countries ... 1 of which, is the US. Well, it is April now and I cannot find any official word about whether or not the ZF2 will launch in the US.
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Per Asus response yesterday to an email "Thank you for your inquiry of the ASUS ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML). At this time this product is not available in North America and there is not an official release date at this time as well."
Bought the idol3 for $199. Not playing the waiting game.
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Per Asus response yesterday to an email "Thank you for your inquiry of the ASUS ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML). At this time this product is not available in North America and there is not an official release date at this time as well."
Bought the idol3 for $199. Not playing the waiting game.
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That is a nice phone, congrats!
The problem with me is I already bought the phone, but it came with the CN (Chinese) firmware. It's the exact same phone as the TW (Taiwan) firmware, except it has different band configurations ... which is a reason for me not having the 4G I already pay for on T-Mobile's network. I am now in the process of returning this phone and getting a TW version, but I read here on XDA where people were mentioning the Band configurations on different firmware ... ONE of which happened to be "US" firmware. Since the US version isn't out YET (or ever ....), I assumed that since the Band configuration specs for it are posted, then there MUST be a US variant ... THUS the question.
Btw, thanks for taking the time and emailing Asus ... if you did.
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ONE of which happened to be "US" firmware. Since the US version isn't out YET (or ever ....), I assumed that since the Band configuration specs for it are posted, then there MUST be a US variant ... THUS the question.
Btw, thanks for taking the time and emailing Asus ... if you did.
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Right. I think there will be one, but they're kind of being dumb about it. :/ I really didn't expect an answer, but was hoping maybe they could throw a quarter or month or something my way. Was worth a shot, I guess. Like, if you want to sell a million phones, freaking let us know if it's actually going to come, and a general idea when. You'd think their marketing department would get that.
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Right. I think there will be one, but they're kind of being dumb about it. :/ I really didn't expect an answer, but was hoping maybe they could throw a quarter or month or something my way. Was worth a shot, I guess. Like, if you want to sell a million phones, freaking let us know if it's actually going to come, and a general idea when. You'd think their marketing department would get that.
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I totally aggree ... I think that there might be a big problem between them and US authorities (FCC, customs, etc) and even large flagship companies. Any company would DIE for the pleasure of having it so easy that they just release all their products in every region. There are different bands, radio interference, and general telecommunications laws varying from region to region. I assume it's not IMPOSSIBLE for a HUGE company like ASUS to get all of that sorted out, but then again it is all about $$. Their lowest sale point (according to their marketing dept.) was probably selected as the US ... which is why they are releasing it starting from countries where low/mid-range phones are more popular than flagships due to their price.
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I totally aggree ... I think that there might be a big problem between them and US authorities (FCC, customs, etc) and even large flagship companies. Any company would DIE for the pleasure of having it so easy that they just release all their products in every region. There are different bands, radio interference, and general telecommunications laws varying from region to region. I assume it's not IMPOSSIBLE for a HUGE company like ASUS to get all of that sorted out, but then again it is all about $$. Their lowest sale point (according to their marketing dept.) was probably selected as the US ... which is why they are releasing it starting from countries where low/mid-range phones are more popular than flagships due to their price.
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You're completely right actually, as even way back in the earlier weeks after the Zenfone 2 was announced, I saw such info on the Asus site. Said info was essentially 'fine print' at the very bottom of the page, where they stated that the phone wasn't FCC approved for the US and Canada, along with some other stuff...
I'm not from such regions so I didn't think it'd cause any issues, but with what you mentioned here about such barriers makes perfect sense why there's no official launch event for those countries yet. Once again, can't blame Asus for having such a hard time delivering this beastly device, with such things taking a jab at their profits.
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You're completely right actually, as even way back in the earlier weeks after the Zenfone 2 was announced, I saw such info on the Asus site. Said info was essentially 'fine print' at the very bottom of the page, where they stated that the phone wasn't FCC approved for the US and Canada, along with some other stuff...
I'm not from such regions so I didn't think it'd cause any issues, but with what you mentioned here about such barriers makes perfect sense why there's no official launch event for those countries yet. Once again, can't blame Asus for having such a hard time delivering this beastly device, with such things taking a jab at their profits.
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It does suck ... but nothing should stop us!
Order it from eBay, the Taiwanese version is the best version out there, I believe ... in terms of 4G on TMobile, Play Store preinstalled, etc.
I will be getting mine within a week, will keep the threads updated. I am currently holding the 1.8GHz chip of the Chinese version which is only getting 3G, and no Google Apps pre installed. I am having a bit of trouble getting Google Framework/services on it at the moment. It seems impossible so if GearBest decides not to pay return shipping, I will keep it and root it ... that should get me through the door to Google apps.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s6-...ollout-leaked-with-updated-schedule-25424189/
Oh good, will have to wait to February now. Samsung is getting much worse with it's updates!
Fake!
Maybe it's fake but it's 25 of January and still nothing from Samsung except the beta testing....
In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
umbrokhan said:
If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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Wow, i can't speak for everyone but I would like the update so my phone will work properly. I have poor reception on my phone, i cant really talk on my phone, get good internet connection, and have issues sending messages. I was advised by my wireless carrier and samsung, that the Marshmallow update would correct said problems. So maybe if they sold phones that worked properly out of the box, some of us wouldn't be crying for updates
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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I would if nexus 6p would have been released by the time I was buying the phone. Actually it's still not available in Slovenia, only 5x is, 6p is coming end of January/early February, and yes, I am considering switching with someone 1 for 1 for a nexus 6p when they will be available, even if it's 250€ cheaper. And I don't really consider it being "fast updates" for expecting an update 5 months after the release of the software by google.
Funny thing is that I'm arguing about software updates on xda forums.. correct me, but no one is developing hardware on this forum or are they?
Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
it's all BS.... This is my last Samsung phone. They have no respect at all for their costumers. I hope hope the Dutch law suit against them , screws them where they deserve.
ChrisM75 said:
Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
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Well said... People are always complaining about the delayed updates but if an update cames out with bugs they complain also... This makes me laugh... Aren't your phones working?
Before Lollipop was released everyone was complaining and when it cames out i saw a lot of them returning to KK... if you all say the difference is minimal so what's the hurry?
They need to slim down the touchwiz stuff which may speed up the update times
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It's a fake. Don't believe in Ss. I buy an s6e+ for 1000$ in my country and still now there's no update. I think i'm gonna go back to iphone for the ip 6+ @@
people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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I only want Doze to save battery life, am not bothered about the other Android 6 features.
if samsung make there UI skin more like iOS then am happy to.
on my nexus 7 with marshmallow battery on standby is brill but screen time just normal
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Funny...
Watched Google's 2019 IO and I saw that LG is on the beta list for Q. Is G7 supported?
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/07/android-q-beta-3-phones/
It's the G8..
Maverick Honor said:
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/07/android-q-beta-3-phones/
It's the G8..
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? ? ?
Nevermind... I don't think that the sound functions like dtx and quad dac works with vanilla beta... ?
They are too dumb for that, and pretty sure it will be release on korean version only again, worst phone of my life
bilrage said:
They are too dumb for that, and pretty sure it will be release on korean version only again, worst phone of my life
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Indeed Korea get priority if it comes to beta or anything else. Don't believe a thing they would treat the G8 any other way like G7 to make you upgrade. Some of the G7 got a few days ago security update April instead of pie.
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Yea, only Korean model. Anyone starting to feel that lg's koreans are some sort of racists?
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Anyone starting to feel that lg's koreans are some sort of racists?
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I don't think they are racists. But probably 95% of their sales are in Korea. The US and Europe is not that important for them. They are acting just like Apple and Google did in the beginning when they thought the world only consisted of the US. I remember my first Android phone I had to root just to get Google Play since that was a US feature only. When my xbox got voice control I was thrilled, I knew it was only English, but since I'm a fluent speaker I would not mind. But no, you could only turn on that feature in the US. Amazon Prime? Sorry, not in your country. The list goes on and on.
Companies are in this for the revenue. You don't spend lots of $ to please those 5% of users outside your main market, that's just a fact of capitalism. As a consumer you need to think about why this seemingly great spec phone is cheaper that comparative models from Samsung, Sony and others. They sell some phones to test the market. If it's a success then great, they'll prioritize this market for the next model (G8), if not, the no worries, we did not spend that much money in that market anyway.
My next phone is going to be a "global" contender without a strong tie to a country. Like the One+ or something like that I think.
(The numbers are just grabbed out of my a** and are probably totally wrong, but the principle remains).
It is another stunt by LG for publicity and lure the customers again.. Like last year when they announced new software update centre..
By joining the beta program, they are still not obligated to roll out timely updates on G8 either.. It's it just for beta testing at the end of the day...
Android 10 was released on September, Xiaomi said that they will update Mix 3 on October, But looking at the situation it's started getting ridiculous, we're now at the end of February which is 5 month over the schedule and we have got nothing. I don't care if Android 10 is not different from 9, I paid for a flagship and I should get a flagship service, not to mention this is also applies for the Android security patch which is pretty old and last updated on October. Also the forgotten 5G variant which still running on MIUI 10. Is this is a joke? really?? if anyone knows who to contact from the company so we can gather and make a demand on extending our device support since we didn't get anything for a long time.
Xiaomi was a good company I don't know what's happening to it.
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
phorenzik said:
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
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China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
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No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
There's so many bugs, at least in my experience. Ghost notifications, broken app switcher sometimes, glitchy gallery, disappearing lock screen notifications, the ads in the cleaner app, and so on.
It's so disappointing, all of this on a seemingly orphaned flagship.
Disappearing lock screen notifications is "feature" according to them, kinda make sense but everybody, including me, is used to other way. Ads in Xiaomi app is also a feature, but this one you can change at least, you can do that by going into that apps settings and then find "recommendations" and turn that off..
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
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They may not be able to, it is entirely possible that the company does not allow IP (IE, the code) to be taken off site, or worked on remotely, and depending where the employees are, they may not have access to internet that is reliable and speedy enough to be conducive to remote development. Plus if some of the European news sources are to be believed, the true scale of 2019-nCoV may be 10x higher than what China is actually sharing with the world.
Your chances of getting anything by demanding it unless you are going to try to file a suit in China (good luck) are almost zero. I agree this device is not being treated as a flagship by Xiaomi, the Redmi and Pocophone devices that sold much better got much faster updates, which is not cool. It's also been the case for a while now that the global users are second fiddle to China ROM users.
Basically there's nothing any of us can do, except wait, unless you want to try to develop your own rom, which given what I've personally run into is anything but easy for this device. I was barely able to get Android 10 booting, and lots of things were broken.
Pocophones and Redmis has much higher development in India. Even if the devs in China were affected by CoVid, and halts development, for example the Poco or Pocophone's software dev could still be running in full course. Most of the releases are Indian-first, you just need to change region to India and you'll get the update. For the Mix 3, if they're solely based in China, it'll be affected by the outbreak, release will stagger for more months but you'd still get the update nonetheless, albeit not on the time you expect it would be.
Unless not getting an Android 10 upgrade makes your phone unusable, I don't see the reason why people whine on these types of things. I mean, get a Pixel if you want to experience the latest bugs from Android.
^^ I agree, and also people should have in mind that software for Mix line does not come with all the bugs, that come to Redmi and other phones, so yes, they might get update faster, but see how many users of those phones are complaing about bugs and searching for fixes, as far I could see there are not bugs on this phone. But update is released today, at least some users are reporting that, so we will see if hos it goes, maybe I'm wrong..
Update has been released today, based on Android 10.
Doesn't Google mandate that phones should be supported for 2 or 3 years?
No, this is not AndroidOne program
I'm confused... We do have Android 10. Global has had it for a while.
No update for the 5g.
Shame on you Xiaomi.
This is my last Xiaomi.
I've had Android 10 since 2019 on my Mi Mix 3.