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Replacing Xperia Z2 with HTC One M8. Good idea?

the Z2 is 2 weeks old
the Z2 is Awesome but i am in love with the M8 Shape and dimensions.
what do you think?

The Sony Xperia Z2 is not new but it's better than the Z1.
I would only keep the Z2 if battery life, water proof and the nice
glass back was something i cared about a ton.
besides that i like the fact that my rooted m8 can be converted to either
a Developer edition or Google Play Edition and so on.
It's developer support is unmatched in my opinion.
The M8 could get lollipop but the Z2 could take longer.
So far, I'll keep the M8.

i4GS said:
The Sony Xperia Z2 is not new but it's better than the Z1.
I would only keep the Z2 if battery life, water proof and the nice
glass back was something i cared about a ton.
besides that i like the fact that my rooted m8 can be converted to either
a Developer edition or Google Play Edition and so on.
It's developer support is unmatched in my opinion.
The M8 could get lollipop but the Z2 could take longer.
So far, I'll keep the M8.
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The M8 has lollipop. Had it for a while now.

Yes, The M8 has lollipop but the M8 can be converted to any version of the device (with S-OFF).
Developer Edition, Unlocked Edition, Google Play Edition, Carrier Edition(Tmobile,ATT,Sprint), and hopefully in the future
Windows Phone Edition(which i don't care all that much about).
The Z2 doesn't have lollipop yet officially?

Best phone running Official Lineage 14.1 under 300€

Hi
I'm a CM/Lineage user since 2012, I'm currently using a M8 with LOS14.1 but I need a new phone and having a Lineage Official Rom is a must for me. It obviously needs to be better than the one I have right now (specially the camera and battery) and the rom bug free.
I've been looking into the left bar on the downloads page trying to figure out the best phones running LOS officially but it's not easy, there are too many phones and opening the threads to figure out if the rom is stable or not, then searching for specs and prices takes a lot of time, if someone could help me I would really appreciate it.

Moto z, x pure, x play, g4, in that order!
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Thanks. X pure (or style in my area) wasn't in my list but I will definitely check it out. Better camera, best SOC, screen, bigger battery, I can keep the front facing speakers and save a few bucks.
The Z is not an option, it's over my budget and I'm not a fan of the design.

How about Xiaomi Mi5

Potato997 said:
How about Xiaomi Mi5
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The Mi5 was my first option, I ordered one two day ago but I had to cancel the order when I noticed the lack of LTE band20, it is completely useless in my area.

Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

Modder001 said:
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus). A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Its huuuuugggeeee!

Just love the way our great developers have been supporting this device after it was literally left to die in the dark by Lenovo.

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You're a power user. Can the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus). A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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While the hype is all on One plus and Poco phones, our Zuk 2 plus is an amazing underdog. It's almost three years and the support we get from developers is way amazing. I won't be surprised even if the development support ends in coming years ; it has enough of its days.
Zuk 2 plus will live as one of the best phone ever created by lenovo ?.
A very Big thanks to all the DEVELOPERS for their HARD WORK. Bless you all.

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While the hype is all on One plus and Poco phones, our Zuk 2 plus is an amazing underdog. It's almost three years and the support we get from developers is way amazing. I won't be surprised even if the development support ends in coming years ; it has enough of its days.
Zuk 2 plus will live as one of the best phone ever created by lenovo .
A very Big thanks to all the DEVELOPERS for their HARD WORK. Bless you all.
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To be sure, it was an accident on Lenovo's part. No thanks to them at all, the device not only survives, but thrives. Android 10 ROMs, even in beta stages, run smooth as butter. Don't number its days yet, I believe the Z2 plus will continue to recieve developer support, in one way or the other, until Android 12. Or so I can hope, and as long as they do, I have no reason to change phones. This is my first smartphone, and it looks like it will last 5 years with ease, with perhaps a battery replacement in a year from now.

ZUK Z2 is great phone
The ZUK Z2 was a good cell phone, but now present someone problems. The most important (for me) is the overheating. For example, when play PUGB the ZUK Z2 it gets really hot. Also happened when i'm browsing or chatting. I haven't no idea, I think battery may be the problem, in a one moment la batería se descarga a nivel de segundos, y la carga era muy lenta. It was solved when you turn off the chance of chance and I turned it again.
Do they have any idea?
Jean Pierre.
(I not speak, write and read in English perfectly. Sorry)

is lenovo z2 plus worth buying?

i'm planning to buy a phone to keep for atleast 2 years., and i got 3 options. MiA1,Redmi Note 4 and Lenovo z2 plus . The primary requirement are battery life,reliable performance and decent camera. Due to it's powerful processor i thought of giving z2 plus a shot. therefore my questions are how is the battery life really? i'm not a gamer and i mostly browse web. I heard that the camera lens of z2 plus is plastic and scratches easily and is lenovo providing any software updates as of now ? because updates like Airtel VOLTE is much important for me if i'm going to use my phone for 2 years .

vishalaestro said:
i'm planning to buy a phone to keep for atleast 2 years., and i got 3 options. MiA1,Redmi Note 4 and Lenovo z2 plus . The primary requirement are battery life,reliable performance and decent camera. Due to it's powerful processor i thought of giving z2 plus a shot. therefore my questions are how is the battery life really? i'm not a gamer and i mostly browse web. I heard that the camera lens of z2 plus is plastic and scratches easily and is lenovo providing any software updates as of now ? because updates like Airtel VOLTE is much important for me if i'm going to use my phone for 2 years .
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Go for mia1(good camera) and z2+(performance)

First of all, to clarify, the camera lens on ZUK Z2 Plus is glass and not plastic, and matches the decent-level requirement you have. So you should definitely consider buying it over Mi A1 due to its superior processing power.

DeepChaudhari said:
First of all, to clarify, the camera lens on ZUK Z2 Plus is glass and not plastic, and matches the decent-level requirement you have. So you should definitely consider buying it over Mi A1 due to its superior processing power.
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you sure it's glass? since the lens on mine has micro scratches everywhere, although it's not as bad as some sony xperia lens

I am using Z2 Plus and I would agree, MiA1 has much better camera but it's priced higher at present compare to Z2 Plus.
Given the price of Z2 Plus, it's a steal deal if you can compromise with night or low light photography since under daylight, Z2 Plus camera works just fine.
The main attraction of Z2 Plus is the SoC. Nothing comes close to SD820+4GB combo unless you spend at least 3 times more to get the nearest 800 series competition.

Go with A1. That's all i will say. I have Z2 and my sister has A1. The performance difference is really negligible between 625 with clean android build and 820 with crap OS.

I have the same 'problem' but between MiA1 and Zuk Z2 (the normal one, not the plus).
I don't know which buy but I like the 5'' of the Zuk

I've Z2. And if it gets bricked. I would buy it again. It's all a matter of priorities. If you use camera like 15 Pictures Daily, don't but this phone. But if you want to own Flagship grade specs, feel how fast is 2.1 GHz and how much is 4GB RAM, know how fluid Android Experience can get, then buy ZUK.
Since you posted your question here, you'll come to the difference between 625 & 820.

d3vyarth said:
I've Z2. And if it gets bricked. I would buy it again. It's all a matter of priorities. If you use camera like 15 Pictures Daily, don't but this phone. But if you want to own Flagship grade specs, feel how fast is 2.1 GHz and how much is 4GB RAM, know how fluid Android Experience can get, then buy ZUK.
Since you posted your question here, you'll come to the difference between 625 & 820.
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So you have the plus one? Or the normal one?

maziu7 said:
So you have the plus one? Or the normal one?
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Z2Plus

d3vyarth said:
Z2Plus
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Well I think both models have the same processor, I don't really now which buy, Z2, Z2 plus or Mi A1

Just buy zuk z2.
Then unlock bootloader and flash any oreo rom with hdr+ enabled.
That ll solve your camera problem.
Camera is nt everything. Performance also matters.
And snap 820>>> 625

MiA1 very good camera avg battery
Redmi Note 4 jack of all, master of none, but good battery capacity
Lenovo z2 plus master of all minus low light camera and 5inch if you like,
you will have to use custom roms for updates and better performance at low budget you will get this.
so choose between priorities

Used RN4 first, it lacked the performance and camera. But had an awesome SOT 11HRS.
Then my friend's MiA1 for a week. The camera was awesome but battery was meh and performance was okayish.
Now rocking z2 plus, awesome performance with sub-par camera.