Thoughts?
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My thought would be that you should move this thread to Q/A thread.
This thread is for development
No idea about the kernel as I don't use oos4
Blu_spark or ElementalX
sidhg said:
My thought would be that you should move this thread to Q/A thread.
This thread is for development
No idea about the kernel as I don't use oos4
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Kernels are development - this is where users come to get them, and seeing 5-6 different ones doesn't offer a comprehensive comparison, so this thread would serve as that. You read this, and then pick the kernel - all in one place.. But if mods think it should be moved please move it i don't know how
No such thing as a best kernel since everyone uses their devices differently and has different apps installed. Definitely not the place for this forum.
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Try all of them, there is no such best. I can say there is a minor difference between Franco, Bluspark, Ex kernel etc. They all cherrypick(not sure it this is the right word) each other and make slight modifications and that makes kernels unique, I had a good experience with Xceed, Render and Franco.
EX Kernel For sure
There is no answer to your question. Best kernel for me may be the worst one for you
Personally, I think this isn't even a legit question as there many variables, such as personal likes and dislikes and desired goals. Some people would rather have a kernel for speed, while others may want increased battery life and yet others may want a little of both. I guess the answer is whichever one you like best.
Useless thread...
There is no best kernel.
You chose a kernel which fits best to your needs.
This is just like asking "whats the best color?"
This thread likely needs to be moved to Q&A.
That being said, I myself would really appreciate some input on pros and cons of well known kernels kind elemental X and Franco vs the stock OOS kernel, since performance isn't something that needs improving IMO on this device. What and how other benefit is there?
Like I said it is all subjective, but if you take the time to read, the information is listed by the OP
You could give the moxie kernel by bedalus a try. He implemented a nice feature where you can set a threshold to make your battery charge to a certain percentage. This is because, if you always charge your phone to 100% the battery degrades quicker.
MarcTremonti said:
Useless thread...
There is no best kernel.
You chose a kernel which fits best to your needs.
This is just like asking "whats the best color?"
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Lol I liked this "what's the best color?"
I think you people should try Ex . Been using Ex for a while and it seems quite stable.
People say Blusparks is good but for me it was never , maybe its just me.
My sig normally is always updated with a setup working fine on a semi business phone. franco.Kernel is rock solid and the BEST SOT!
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So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.
Product F(RED) said:
This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.
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Ok.. will rewrite the OP, but i am just looking for options.. i will decide what i like, but the only options i am really finding are Net and HTC#15. There was not 1 mention of "which is best"
But thanks for answering my questions.....
It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
or
Any of Net's, like you said.
Product F(RED) said:
It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
or
Any of Net's, like you said.
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I get it though.. i have spent my fair share of time reading through page after page of useless BS...
Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.
I have only used one for 5 minutes, as I run AOSP, but the netarchy kernels are nice.
gpz1100 said:
Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.
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Right.. I get that and is what i typically do.. just looking for other Kernels TO try.....
HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.
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So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Ziggy's kernels have a great balance between the 2 priorities, and battery life is great.
And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.
Product F(RED) said:
HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.
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hmmm.. kinda what i was thinking. Seems like there is a huge push for AOSP stuff though....
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And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.
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GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?
frettfreak said:
GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?
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click the go advanced button.
id also like a kernel for my stock 3.70. preferably one with an OC without the need for set cpu.
Ziggy works best for me but like I said that is just me, different phones seem to work different better with different kernels. It's all about what your phone likes
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As crazy as this might sound having the BEST battery life is hard to find. I'm using a regular battery not extended so I found that no matter what kernel combination I use there really is no AWESOME battery life. These types of phones on a regular battery just aren't meant to last all day. It ticks me off when people brag and they say things like "oh my evo last all day and etc" . Why brag and you're not even a heavy user like normal people. Most the people who brag about their ultra battery life aren't heavy users, and their phones are always sleeping. I use my phone all day, constant texting, twitter, Facebook, tapatalk, and wifi web browsing from about 8am-5pm. When I say heavy I mean heavy. Around 5pm my phones usually about 20 or 30% and this is perfect for me at least. I get home at 5 so that's my peak usage. I've used about every kernel/rom/tweak combination that exists and I don't think aosp has better batt life over sense and vice versa. Right now I'm using myns 2.2 with the 4.2.2 net/toast kernel sbc with the 1.77 prl and my phone can go from 8am to at least 7pm with very heavy usage. This by far the best I've gotten out of my 004 evo over and aosp/sense rom especially with everything working perfectly. Cheers.
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Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
MN_Vibrant said:
Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
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If you're looking for a kernel for CM7, the kernel included is quite snappy though I personally run pershoot's kernel as he undervolts and has some other tweaks which improves responsiveness *and* battery life, at least for me.
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CM7 already comes with its own custom kernel (which also supports some overclocking), so no need to flash a separate kernel if you don't want to. But as already mentioned, pershoot's works well too.
You can't flash any kernel. Some are Sense specific, and some are for non-Sense ROMs. Flashing the wrong one for your ROM can apparently brick the phone, so read thru the threads for the ROM and kernel you are interested in, to be sure. The ROM developer will usually have kernel recommendations, or you can see what kernels users of that ROM have tried.
Like stated above you will need to read the instructions and notes on the kernel thread. CM7 has special requirements. Other Roms don't need. but be very careful on what you flash!
I'm pretty sure that this question has been posted alot of times but I need help deciding on a decent rom and a kernal which would go with it that has everything working and has the best battery life as well. I will probably get CM7 but idk which kernal will go best with it.
I also need help changing the LCD density of my screen. Before I switched to my EVO I owned a HTC HD2 and had pongsters hyperdroid on it which had lower LCD density allowing everything to be smaller on the phone.
Those are my questions please help. Thank you!
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Not exactly sure what you mean by LCD density but I can help with the ROM kernel question.
As far as a ROM goes the best way to find the right one is to do 2 things.
1. Make a list of things you are looking for in a ROM. Stability, 4G, HDMI, Wireless Tether, etc. Then check out ROMs that contain stable versions with those features you emphasize.
2. Get flash happy. Flash a ROM, test it for a few days to a week and then flash another one. If you find yourself coming back to one specific ROM over and over again then that is probably the one you should stick with.
Check out this thread for some ROM ideas: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951057
A few ROMs that I didn't see mentioned in there are Myn's Synergy, Salvage-Mod, Sinister, Savaged Zen, and Swag.
As far as kernels go you have to remember a basic rule. Sense ROMs get paired with sense kernels and AOSP ROMs get paired with AOSP kernels. Then you do the same thing you did with the ROMs.
1. Make a list of what you want in a kernel. HAVS, SBC, overclocking, undervolting, etc.
2. Get flash happy and test which kernel matches your ROM the best with what you are looking for.
I know that may not be the exact answer you are looking for. But ROMs and kernels are all about personal preference and daily usage trends. each one has pros and cons that different people may or may not like. Check my ROM/kernel combination. It fits my usage habits, constantly using it at home and barely use it when out of the house, but it may not fit the way you use it. Experiment and have fun.
And here is a thread about kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
Quite personally, I would suggest MIUI. If you're not into that kind of thing, I would suggest Deck's, who updated to stable yesterday!
Kernel, I would say Tiamat 4.0.8.
Look up Vipermod. Check my signature. Most phones can at least handle a -50 undervolt for the Tiamat mentioned above.
I would suggest the flashable GPS fix in my signature. Locks on quite accurately.
You may have a lot of cell standby drain. Check development section for a thread about Radio wakelock combination.
Best way to change the density would be to edit the build.prop but there are apps in the Market. Just search density changer
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Flash Flash Flash
Then you will be able to find out what you like.
AOSP is always a winner for me.
Oh, and make sure you Nandroid.
I agree with both posts above, you have to try out roms for yourself since in every rom post you will see someone saying this is the best rom they have ever hadand battery life is super. Your question has been asked a million times before but like that millions of answers that were given it all boils down to personal choice.
I run AOSP with an sbc kernel but Lord knows you may find people here who would dispute the use of an sbc kernel. LCD Density apps are in the market or just use google for help. Sorry this is not a definitive answer but honestly just find a rom you like and give it a shot....
Thanks for all your answers time to get flash happy!
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For me the best combo of performance and battery life has been SavagedZen and CM7. Completely transformed my perception of just well the evo should perform. Basically no compromises, Fast AND great battery life.
I'm using MikG 2.56 ROM with Aggressive Freedom kernel. Holding up pretty good.
For me the best combo is Decks Rom 1.3 + SavagedZen Kernel + Vipermod
I can get about 16 hours on MikG 2.56 (stock kernel) with moderate use. Damn near perfect ROM.
sai_iii said:
For me the best combo of performance and battery life has been SavagedZen and CM7. Completely transformed my perception of just well the evo should perform. Basically no compromises, Fast AND great battery life.
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Which version of CM7 are you running? I'm on the 219 nightly and it kind of meh. I've tried savaged Zen with CM7.1 and it was good but my battery didn't seem to last as long during use so I decided to move on to other kernels. Are you running any supplementary battery apps?
Hi , I wanna keep on with custom rom but I wanna change my kernel , what's the best battery and performance kernel , what do u think?
Yay, awesome thread
Therollingstone said:
u know what , ive been using android for two years ( htc , samsung , lg ) and dont judge me as using this phone efficient , I have knowladge about computer and smartphone almost your age
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s2d4 said:
Yay, awesome thread
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Was your post *REALLY* necessary?
So, to answer your question:
I don't believe most of the kernels are for the stock ROM, with the exception of faux123's. I have followed faux over from multiple devices, and his kernels have always gotten the best battery life! It also doesn't hurt that you can get over 30 hours with over 3 hours screen on time with his kernel!
[Kernel][GSM][Hybrid-3.0.21]ICS4.0.2/3/4/UV,OC,TUN,CIFS,FIOPS,OTG(v013) [Feb-18]
Also, if its battery life your after as opposed to performance, you should go with the mainline version of the kernel.
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Was your post *REALLY* necessary?
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nope, just like the thread. his years of "knowladge" didnt help him.
I'm running on Franco 17.2 kernel (too lazy to update to 18.6) with the "stock" 4.0.4 rom and I'm seeing a pretty good battery life improvement over stock kernel.
I collected some metrics last night...
11h 6m on battery with 2h 48m display on time (auto brightness). Wifi was on almost the entire time.
I know people have gotten better with non-stock roms (4 hour display time over 16 hours), but with the stock rom, I'd say it's an improvement (used to only get 8-10 hours with negligible screen time).
I have been using franco 18.6 with the leaked stock 4.0.4 with good results so far, but have seen crashes on 4g/3g border areas. I can't really say if it's the best, because my sample size is a single custom kernel.
Used the app off the android market for OTA kernel updates; and am reluctant to try other kernels until more apps are available like that.
There really is not definitive answer on what the best kernel is for everyone.
Each person uses their phone differently and differing configurations will alter results as well.
Your best bet is to experiment yourself. Flash a kernel and let it run a couple days, trying to take note of how your on screen performance is, what you have run, also how the phone sleeps.
Then you move on and try the next, that is part of the fun!
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nope, just like the thread. his years of "knowladge" didnt help him.
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The point you don't understand is I'm still enough humble to ask people decisions , The experience of users is the most reliable information for me , I havent been a big head and I wont , I still ask people that what's the best kernel with the stock rom
KiNG OMaR said:
Was your post *REALLY* necessary?
So, to answer your question:
I don't believe most of the kernels are for the stock ROM, with the exception of faux123's. I have followed faux over from multiple devices, and his kernels have always gotten the best battery life! It also doesn't hurt that you can get over 30 hours with over 3 hours screen on time with his kernel!
[Kernel][GSM][Hybrid-3.0.21]ICS4.0.2/3/4/UV,OC,TUN,CIFS,FIOPS,OTG(v013) [Feb-18]
Also, if its battery life your after as opposed to performance, you should go with the mainline version of the kernel.
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Thank you very much , I'm really happy with your post.
Therollingstone said:
The point you don't understand is I'm still enough humble to ask people decisions , The experience of users is the most reliable information for me , I havent been a big head and I wont , I still ask people that what's the best kernel with the stock rom
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Well, you obviously failed to realise the point, this kind of thread pops up everyday. So you failed search.
Its like a pair of shoes, you need to try and find what is best for you. Best kernel threads will always be retarded to ask because it is a preference, like an anus, everybody has one.
hey guys, i was wondering whats a stable kernel for the S3Rx 3.0 TouchWiz 4.3 rom, with good battery life. and what governor do yall prefer with this rom. thanks!
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hey guys, i was wondering whats a stable kernel for the S3Rx 3.0 TouchWiz 4.3 rom, with good battery life. and what governor do yall prefer with this rom. thanks!
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Try out Ktoonsez kernel. It seems to be the go-to kernel for TW and AOSP ROMs on our S3s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
For governor; Ive had great success with OnDemand as well as Interactive. Good luck!
In the end, this is going to be much like the "whats the best rom" questions. Just like the roms, there is a ton of information about the most popular kernels that you will have to read in order to make an informed choice. Everyone has different needs/desires so just like roms, whats best for me or many other people may be opposite from what would be best for you. No one but you knows your usage patterns to base a decision on.
Regarding kernels and their governors, and other options, there is a lot to read and learn, which I do understand can be a bit intimidating. But if you really are after the best choice for your needs the only way to figure it out is to read, read, read. If you just follow what a few others recommend, theres a good chance you wont be getting what is best for you.
So in short, read each of the top kernels OP's, read up on the different governors, and pick one to test if it works as you expect. Try out several configurations to know for sure what you like the most.
If you have specific questions, by all means ask away! In fact, theres a thread in this subforum dedicated to ktoonsez' kernels, and even if you dont choose to use one, it could be a great place to search for more info. Just remember, other peoples opinions can give you a good place to start from, but will usually not be an ideal way to decide where you should end up.
I know this is not the answer you were looking for, but imo, there is just no way to adequately give one. For every kernel/rom combo, there will be some who rave about it and some who warn against it! Only one way to know which it will be for you!
SSL! I do wish you good luck though! And fun!
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Doc is 100% right. That's like asking what the best breed of dog is.
I can tell you what I use though.
Ktoonsez 747 with no options set except conservative governor.
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"Best" ROM/Kernel threads are meaningless as it depends on YOUR usage/phone/apps/setup/syncs/signal/preferences
Therefore they are not allowed (thread closed)