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Hey all. I am looking to purchase a galaxy s 3. Would a t mobile galaxy work over seas or do I need an international one? Thanks.
Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.
So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?
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So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?
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Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.
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Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.
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What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?
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Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.
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You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe
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You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe
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It's not penta-band. It doesn't have 900 MHz HSPA+ support.
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What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?
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Those are just bands that the phones support. And GSM is a world standard, it should work in Korea, and HSPA+ should work too as it supports the 2100 MHz band.
Wifi calling is an option too.
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Here's an article on the frequencies that just came out that may help you OP.
tikoracer said:
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
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You can find all the information on the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
That's weird, I can swear that wiki page had different information yesterday about the I9505 LTE bands
macaumen said:
You can find all the information on the Wiki page
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
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Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
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Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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tikoracer said:
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
Check the picture attached, this photo is from the original T-Mobile US Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919) box.
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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No, you can't flash a I9505 rom to a M919 device, if you do, you will brick it. The best option for you to get 800 and 1800 frequencies is to go for the GT-I9505, it's the Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE version, and it has the following bands for LTE Cat 3 (800 / 850 / 900 / 1,800 / 2,100 / 2,600 MHz). This is the official Samsung page: http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/smartphone/GT-I9505ZKAXSA-spec
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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Yes, it seems that the I9505 has LTE bands for each region, it's not dedicated for America (North, Central and South), it also support Europe and Asia, while it doesn't contain most bands for a specific region, it's a world phone, unlucky doesn't fully support T-Mobile 4G UTMS network (1700/2100), but still a good option for those who travel to other continents.
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Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
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I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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i asked that because i have an att atrix, on which its possible to flash european modems without a problem, thanks for your time man, i hope someone will try this and it works
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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T-mobile is 4g lte and super fast
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crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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I bought my S4 T-mobile (SGH-M919) in USA. And it is fine working in Spain with 4G. But when i have upgraded it to Marshmallow then only works with HSPA(H+) as better. Change baseband? i am not sure to do it...mmmm
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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urushiol said:
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
andTab said:
Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
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WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
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WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
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What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
OHH I SEE SORRY, WELL WHATEVER, YOU CAN FLASH RADIO BANDS AS WELL AND SUPPORT OTHER CARRIERS, JUST read here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/recovery-flashable-radio-zip-t3122983
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What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
andTab said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
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Thanks for the reply. I have checked GSM arena, plus anything else I could find on google. I don't see a listing for the unlocked/developer edition on this page. I see EMEA, Verizon, ATT and T-mobile.
And yes, sorry, I didn't realized there was an AWS for HSPA, i was just thinking about band 4 LTE on ATT which I think is AWS.
clsA said:
The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
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Thank you.
That's what I figured.
Sadly that means I won't get this phone.
Bump. Hoping someone can find a straight answer have been on the phone twice with HTC, even they can't provide a straight answer. I ever addressed them on twitter. No luck. Thanks in advance.
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urushiol said:
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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It's pretty difficult to find out info on band support, and I have no idea why. It should be readily available...
Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
Based on that, there are four models sold in the U.S., which are:
0PJA100 (which appears to be the AT&T version)
0PJA120 (which appears to be the TMO USA version)
0PJA200 (which appears to be the Sprint version)
0PJA300 (which appears to be the Verizon version)
The AT&T model supports the following: UMTS 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, that said, if you look on AT&T's site, they list their model as 0PJA110, so obviously either the FCC site is wrong or the AT&T site is wrong.
I happen to have the 0PJA110 model, which is also the Rogers model (so it would make sense that the AT&T version is 0PJA110 because Rogers and AT&T generally have the same devices, and their networks are generally the same frequencies). Based on HTC Canada's site, the Rogers model supports UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, for the assumption: From what I have read (but I haven't personally confirmed), the unlocked and developer models are the same as the AT&T model. If that is indeed the case, then you have your answer: No UMTS 900MHz support the unlocked and/or developer models (in fact, not UMTS support on any U.S. model).
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Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
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I know this is a delayed followup, but I wanted to say thanks for this. I finally got HTC to confirm that UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz are the official specs for the US unlocked edition(which, oddly, is marked 0PJA110 on the back).
I am pushing them for a refund for false advertising. I was so concerned that these specs could be wrong before I purchased the phone, that I did a chat with HTC and they assured me the correct specs were UMTS 850MHz, 900MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz. Once they confirmed these specs for me, I purchased the phone. Now they confirm they told me wrong. Very frustrating experience.
I am waiting to hear back about getting a refund. I am hoping the come through, this is crazy.
Will it work with the LTE bands?
The seller on eBay say's it fully works with AT&T and T-Mobile?
HTC 10h (International version) WILL NOT work on US LTE bands
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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You should check which LTE bands your European carrier is using. Just google it "What LTE band does [your carrier] use in [your country/city]."
The US version supports all LTE bands except 8 (Saudi Arabia) and 32 (no idea where that's used..). en. wikipedia. org / wiki / List_of_LTE_networks
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Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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Hello, I have the same problem...How you solved it?
If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
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If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
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Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
Filippo95 said:
Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
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i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
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i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
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Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
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Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
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1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot :laugh:
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot
greenlifeHTC said:
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
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Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
mrbox23 said:
Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
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m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
So which version should I buy to use on AT&T in California?
meats said:
m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
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Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
mrbox23 said:
Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
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Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
meats said:
Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
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Thanks for the info
Hi
Can someone tell me if there is any difference between the US and the Euro version of the Pixel ?
Do they use the same LTE Bands ?
Thx
Lionel
Would like to know as well
There's a $200 difference somewhere!
Just bands and likely the absence in the US model of the certification label at the bottom of the back of the device (like Nexus 6P, that hasn't them in the US version and has them in the international version).
The bands are different. The USA model wouldn't be able to use 4G in Europe. You'd be stuck using 3G.
scandalousk said:
The bands are different. The USA model wouldn't be able to use 4G in Europe. You'd be stuck using 3G.
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are you sure ? In my country (Switzerland) we use mostly LTE Bands 3,7 and 20 and as you can see, the 3 bands are in both version.
I only see a difference in the LTE 2X CA and LTE 3X CA where the combinaison are not the same.
Can someone confirm ?
North America
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
TDS-CDMA: N/A
FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30
TDD LTE: B 41
LTE 2xCA: B2+B2, B2+B4, B2+B5, B2+B12, B2+B13, B2+B17, B2+B29, B2+B30, B4+B4, B4+B5, B4+B7, B4+B12, B4+B13, B4+B17, B4+B29, B4+B30, B5+B30, B7+B7, B12+B30, B25+B25, B29+B30, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B2+B2+B12, B2+B2+B13, B2+B4+B4, B2+B4+B5, B2+B4+B12, B2+B4+B13, B2+B4+B29, B2+B5+B30, B2+B12+B30, B2+B29+B30, B4+B4+B12, B4+B4+B13, B4+B5+B30, B4+ B7+ B12, B4+B12+B30, B4+B29+B30, B41+B41+B41
Rest of the world
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0
TDS-CDMA: B 34/39
FDD LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/21/26/28/32/
TDD LTE: B 38/39/40/41
LTE 2xCA: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B18, B1+B19, B1+B20, B1+B21, B1+B26, B1+B41, B3+B3, B3+B5, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B19, B3+B20, B3+B28, B5+B7, B7+B7, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B19+B21, B20+B32, B38+B38, B39+B39, B39+B41, B40+B40, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B1+B3+B3, B1+B3+B5, B1+B3+B8, B1+B3+B20, B1+B5+B7, B1+B19+B21, B1+B41+B41, B3+B3+B5, B3+B3+B7, B3+B3+B8, B3+B7+B7, B3+B7+B8, B3+B7+B20, B3+B7+B28, B7+B7+B28
My advice is to wait and see. Google posted a similar spec sheet last year for the Nexus 6P. It was corrected after while. It would be wise to wait until the phone is actually out and see if the page gets corrected.
Should the page be correct, then the USA version will work in Europe. You just won't have lte-advanced. Carrier aggregation depends on band combinations. None of the European bands are combined on the USA version.
Why nobody knows the real name of the models? For the Nexus 5 there was the D820 and D821, what about Pixel?
Here are the answers you guys been waiting for:
View attachment 3990770View attachment 3990771
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
matteventu said:
Just bands and likely the absence in the US model of the certification label at the bottom of the back of the device (like Nexus 6P, that hasn't them in the US version and has them in the international version).
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FCC changed the rules to allow for device certification notices to be part of the Firmware, Google took advantage of this with the NA model (Settings > About Phone > Regulatory Labels), I'm guessing that there are territories outside USA & Canada that still require the labels on the body of the device.
Yeah that's pretty much what I said lol
US-Model works in Switzerland
according to this site the us-model will work with all bands of all carriers within switzerland: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/kR11C21/google-pixel-xl-2-phone-td-lte-na-g011c-lg-taimen/switzerland
If you are a Project Fi user, another important difference is that you can not use Project Fi with the international version of the Pixel XL.
lionel7 said:
are you sure ? In my country (Switzerland) we use mostly LTE Bands 3,7 and 20 and as you can see, the 3 bands are in both version.
I only see a difference in the LTE 2X CA and LTE 3X CA where the combinaison are not the same.
Can someone confirm ?
North America
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
TDS-CDMA: N/A
FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30
TDD LTE: B 41
LTE 2xCA: B2+B2, B2+B4, B2+B5, B2+B12, B2+B13, B2+B17, B2+B29, B2+B30, B4+B4, B4+B5, B4+B7, B4+B12, B4+B13, B4+B17, B4+B29, B4+B30, B5+B30, B7+B7, B12+B30, B25+B25, B29+B30, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B2+B2+B12, B2+B2+B13, B2+B4+B4, B2+B4+B5, B2+B4+B12, B2+B4+B13, B2+B4+B29, B2+B5+B30, B2+B12+B30, B2+B29+B30, B4+B4+B12, B4+B4+B13, B4+B5+B30, B4+ B7+ B12, B4+B12+B30, B4+B29+B30, B41+B41+B41
Rest of the world
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0
TDS-CDMA: B 34/39
FDD LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/21/26/28/32/
TDD LTE: B 38/39/40/41
LTE 2xCA: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B18, B1+B19, B1+B20, B1+B21, B1+B26, B1+B41, B3+B3, B3+B5, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B19, B3+B20, B3+B28, B5+B7, B7+B7, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B19+B21, B20+B32, B38+B38, B39+B39, B39+B41, B40+B40, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B1+B3+B3, B1+B3+B5, B1+B3+B8, B1+B3+B20, B1+B5+B7, B1+B19+B21, B1+B41+B41, B3+B3+B5, B3+B3+B7, B3+B3+B8, B3+B7+B7, B3+B7+B8, B3+B7+B20, B3+B7+B28, B7+B7+B28
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From that list, it seems that while the international version supports almost all of the bands that the US version does and then some, the US version is still better in the US due to more applicable carrier aggregation support.