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I was wondering if calling with google voice number from the evo uses minutes or uses data...
i have the unlimited mobile but only 450 on landlines.
so i wanted to see if its a call forward to a land line that then connects me to the number i am dialing... dont want to go over my 450
uses mins i believe. there is a way if you have any 3 numbers to use gv unlimited
Google Voice uses regular calls, not data, but it can use data.
Mmmkay, how Google Voice works, is that when someone calls your GV number, it just passes along the call to you (forwarding, in other words). If that person is calling your GV number from a cellphone, it'll then be like you're getting a call from a cellphone, and count towards your AnyMobile AnyTime minutes.
When you "call" someone with Google Voice, what happens is that first Google creates a call from them to your phone, and then from them to your destination (like a conference call) and then leaves the call themselves. Think of it as a someone introducing two friends with each other, and then leaving them alone to talk.
Now, if you want to use data to make and receive calls, that's where it gets tricky. You'll need Google Voice, a Sipgate One account, and Sipdroid on your EVO (Don't worry about when Sipdroid tells you to go off and get some account somewhere like PBXes, you can just ignore that). Get GV and Sipgate setup, then add your Sipgate phone number in GV as a phone to ring on incoming calls (set it up as a landline, not cell phone). In Sipgate, remove all forwarding (voicemail) rules so that it'll never redirect a call to Sipgate's voicemail system.
Now, in Sipdroid, we'll add your Sipgate account. Your Authorization Username, password, Server and Domain are all found on your Sipgate settings page (on the right, underneath the buttons to add phones is "SIP Credentials"). Your "Server of Proxy" and Domain are both sipgate.com. "Username or Caller ID" is left empty since it'd just be the same as the Authorization Username. Port 5060, UDP (should be default). Go ahead and tweak your settings (I recommend setting Preferred Call Type to "Phone") and make sure to change Call OIption to include "Use WLAN" and "Use 3G".
So now, when you have a decent data connection, Sipdroid can take incoming calls from Google Voice (which will technically include "outgoing" calls). Unfortunately, you cannot use Sipdroid, or even the Google Voice app to intiate calls. You'll have to use a computer to do that or fiddle around with your browser to be in Desktop mode, and go to the Google Voice webpage.
Hope that's not too confusing...
I plan to travel to Mexico in a few weeks for a much needed escape from these bitter cold Wisconsin winters.
I plan to stop into Sprint to see what options I'd have for using my phone while there. Though I'm still worried as I've heard horror stories of people following what carriers tell them and still racking up huge call or data charges.
Questions:
I'm using a Gingerbread rom, would SIP be an option?
Would making calls through Google voice make any difference?
My hope is, if I have access to wifi I will be able to make VOIP calls or something of the sort.
Google voice will not save you anything. SIP internet calling will. Setup with sipgate or something similar. But internet calling will ONLY help you if you are on a wifi network. If you are data roaming a cell tower, you will get screwed.
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What part of Mexico? I used VOIP on wifi at the resort in Cozumel, almost every hotel there has wifi.
first week of having my evo i went to cancun. hand full of text just about everyday, about 3-4 calls on the last couple of days there, and a bunch of playing around on the web (new phone, had to play with it) netted me about $45 of international fees.
Just buy a international plan for that month so you wont get charge that's much safer and easier instead of having those high bills people get
if you have an old GSM phone just unlock it and use telcel over there, its definitely the cheapest option. text messages are only a peso, even when sending to the U.S.
What about using roam control?
Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!
good luck going to Mexico that drug war and violence is crazy right now I went in the summer and heard gun fire and **** all over that place hopefully your flying cause if your not....... be safe bro
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Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!
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Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.
i just went to mexico a few weeks ago, and stayed on airplane mode (with wifi on) the whole time. if you are going to a tourist trap, you should be fine on the wifi side. if you like going to the more authenitc, poorer touns like me, you might be in trouble.
cesjr02 said:
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.
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Head over to the Google Voice website, click Settings>Voice Settings, select the Phone tab, un-check your cellphone in the list, and check your Sipgate number. Direct link (may or may not work): https://www.google.com/voice/b/0#phones
Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.
cesjr02 said:
Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.
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Incorrect. Inbound calls to your Sipgate number are free. If your minutes are decreasing from inbound calls, and you have a Sipgate One account, email them and cite this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sipgate/status/18775978030
The best option I've found for calling back to the states from foreign countries is to use my laptop and take advantage of the free calling from Gmail. Calls are very clear and all calls to the US are free.
Basically I want it to take over the dialer and texting portion. I may be confused, but I could have sworn I sworn I say it being able to do these things. Also, I heard you can use GV to take over your regular voice plan? Or is that Groove IP? Idk
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Google Voice doesn't work as a VoIP service alone. It works as a "forwarding" number to your normal cell #. It costs you minutes. You can configure the Google Voice app in a way that when you dial a number from the default dialer, it will either ask you which # to use, or just use your GV# every time. Texts will be received in the Google Voice app, but you can configure it to forward them to the Messages app, also. If you want a recommendation, I'd say just use the Google Voice app for SMS and don't bother with forwarding.
GrooVe IP (and Talktatone, SIP clients, etc.) all work as VoIP services to intercept incoming Google Voice calls that are forwarded to Google Chat (Google Talk). Incoming calls to your GV# are forwarded to Google Chat (instead of your carrier #), then the app picks them up and routes it to your phone to take the VoIP call (with no minutes cost). GrooVe IP integrates into the dialer really well, but the quality wasn't great or consistent, which is the case with most VoIP calls.
In Google Voice, go to settings -> Making calls -> Use Google Voice to make all calls.
This will "hijack" all calls made from your phone. What happens is when you make a call, it will actually call some random number Google made up specifically for you, then it will get forwarded to the number you actually wanted to dial.
This will use minutes, as mentioned.
As for texts, google voice cannot "hijack" the same way it can for phone calls. I'm guessing it's a compromise google made with carriers to not steal money away from them. You can still receive texts through google voice, but not through the native Messenger app.
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In Google Voice, go to settings -> Making calls -> Use Google Voice to make all calls.
This will "hijack" all calls made from your phone. What happens is when you make a call, it will actually call some random number Google made up specifically for you, then it will get forwarded to the number you actually wanted to dial.
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This, but you can choose what your Google Voice number is. Its only randomly assigned if you tell it to be. For example when creating Google Voice, I got a GV# that's the same 7-digit # as my carrier one, but with a different area code. Simple to remember.
As for texts, google voice cannot "hijack" the same way it can for phone calls. I'm guessing it's a compromise google made with carriers to not steal money away from them. You can still receive texts through google voice, but not through the native Messenger app.
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You can have your GV App receive messages then put them in the Messenger app if you'd like. Its messier though, as it assigns a random # to each contact. I'd say just use the GV App for your SMS.
Yeah, what I meant by random number was that when calling out, it will actually call a Google associated number (which seems random to me) before forwarding it with your GV# as the caller id. If you look at your bill, it will be all to the same number.
I just signed up for Google Voice and I'm a little confused as to how it works. Texting works just fine and sends from my Google number and if I call my Google number it forwards to my phone fine too.
My question is about outgoing calls. I set it to ask me every time and then to only use Google Voice for calls but no matter what I do, when I go to make a call using the regular dialer like it says, it just uses my regular Verizon number. Is it possible to use my Google Voice number for outgoing calls and does this not use my Verizon minutes?
Yes its definitely possible when the settings in GV are correct (sounds like they are). Verizon ppl should chime in here, but I think you have to set up some call forwarding settings in order to get it to work properly with the VZW network.
It works perfect on my GSM model (and T-Mobile), but I haven't heard any issues about it not working on those.
I found this related thread on a different forum. I'm looking for a similar answer but for my droid bionic.
forums.miui.us/showthread.php?2271-Google-voice&p=19790&viewfull=1#post19790
I make calls from my Google Voice all the time. I did not really do anything to set it up besides install the app on my phone. Of course I went through all the setup online, but I don't think that would matter. When I had my Nexus One some custom ROM's would require you to enable some kind of 3rd party dialing, but I have not seen that with my Galaxy Nexus. I used this link to setup call forwarding so I could us Voice for my voice mail. http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/devices/knowledge_base.html?id=17268
So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!
There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service
Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!
Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?