I want to UNroot my phone/restore my phone due to the fact that I believe I may have done something wrong in the process. I am on 5.0.1
When I turn my phone on, I do get the welcome screen saying my phone's unlocked and all but when I try to use xposed installer it says that my device is not properly rooted?
Specifically it says " The latest version of Xposed is currently not active. Did you install the framework and reboot?" When I try to do this, it says
"Xposed is not (yet) compatible with Android SDK version 21 or your processor architecture (armeabiv7a)
CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE: could not load library "libdvm.so" needed by" /data/data/de.robv.android.xposed.installer/cache/app_process";
cause by library "libdvm.so" not found"
And I believe I had a very hard time (when rooting) copying and pasting the SuperSU to internal storage. Not all the files were actually being transferred over.
I pretty much want to restore my phone so that I can try to root it properly this time.
When the tutorial on how root our phones came out, I feel as though I rushed it from excitement without properly educating myself on what to watch out for.
Maybe I am only HALF rooted? lol sounds so stupid. but my greenify works and superSU grants access to everything. I just don't understand.
My last phone was iphone4 and jailbreaking that was easy. This is something else.
Can anyone help? Thank you for your time!
yungzhvo said:
I want to UNroot my phone/restore my phone due to the fact that I believe I may have done something wrong in the process. I am on 5.0.1
When I turn my phone on, I do get the welcome screen saying my phone's unlocked and all but when I try to use xposed installer it says that my device is not properly rooted?
Specifically it says " The latest version of Xposed is currently not active. Did you install the framework and reboot?" When I try to do this, it says
"Xposed is not (yet) compatible with Android SDK version 21 or your processor architecture (armeabiv7a)
CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE: could not load library "libdvm.so" needed by" /data/data/de.robv.android.xposed.installer/cache/app_process";
cause by library "libdvm.so" not found"
And I believe I had a very hard time (when rooting) copying and pasting the SuperSU to internal storage. Not all the files were actually being transferred over.
I pretty much want to restore my phone so that I can try to root it properly this time.
When the tutorial on how root our phones came out, I feel as though I rushed it from excitement without properly educating myself on what to watch out for.
Maybe I am only HALF rooted? lol sounds so stupid. but my greenify works and superSU grants access to everything. I just don't understand.
My last phone was iphone4 and jailbreaking that was easy. This is something else.
Can anyone help? Thank you for your time!
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This may be of some help.
kkretch said:
This may be of some help.
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Thank you for replying so quickly! :good:
Do you happen to know if this will automatically upgrade me to the newest OTA upgrade?
I want to stay on 5.1.1 so I can try to root it properly. And I've been delaying the OTA upgrade since day 1 and still doing so even with the supposed root I have on my phone right now.
yungzhvo said:
Thank you for replying so quickly! :good:
Do you happen to know if this will automatically upgrade me to the newest OTA upgrade?
I want to stay on 5.1.1 so I can try to root it properly. And I've been delaying the OTA upgrade since day 1 and still doing so even with the supposed root I have on my phone right now.
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If you're going to root your phone, you don't want to take the OTA. You'll just have to downgrade to Lollipop anyway.
Use ODIN and flash the full firmware. 5.1.1 should be good. @hsbadr has a thread in the Development forum with all of the firmware that's available. It'll save you the slow download speed of Sammobile.
If when you go into download mode and you see "mode: developer," you're pretty close to root. Flash SuperSU and TWRP and you'll be there.
douger1957 said:
If you're going to root your phone, you don't want to take the OTA. You'll just have to downgrade to Lollipop anyway.
Use ODIN and flash the full firmware. 5.1.1 should be good. @hsbadr has a thread in the Development forum with all of the firmware that's available. It'll save you the slow download speed of Sammobile.
If when you go into download mode and you see "mode: developer," you're pretty close to root. Flash SuperSU and TWRP and you'll be there.
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"If when you go into download mode and you see "mode: developer," you're pretty close to root. Flash SuperSU and TWRP and you'll be there."
Can you elaborate a little more on this for me? Because when I first rooted I made sure to do EVERY step. Read the forums and watched youtube videos directly linked from the forum.
The thing I just didn't know how to do correctly was flashing the SuperSU and TWRP (I THINIK)
I sincerely just remember trying to copy and paste some files into system storage? something like that... and not EVERYTHING was transferring over.
When I turn on my phone I get the welcome screen with the picture of the unlocked lock with "custom" underneath. So I know I must have done SOMETHING correctly.
Im just sincerely lost. It's quite infuriating .
yungzhvo said:
"If when you go into download mode and you see "mode: developer," you're pretty close to root. Flash SuperSU and TWRP and you'll be there."
Can you elaborate a little more on this for me? Because when I first rooted I made sure to do EVERY step. Read the forums and watched youtube videos directly linked from the forum.
The thing I just didn't know how to do correctly was flashing the SuperSU and TWRP (I THINIK)
I sincerely just remember trying to copy and paste some files into system storage? something like that... and not EVERYTHING was transferring over.
When I turn on my phone I get the welcome screen with the picture of the unlocked lock with "custom" underneath. So I know I must have done SOMETHING correctly.
Im just sincerely lost. It's quite infuriating .
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Go into download mode. From phone off, hold the volume down, power and home buttons together. If it says "mode: developer" in the upper left hand corner when you get it in developer mode, your bootloader is unlocked. At that point you can pick up the instructions for flashing SuperSU and TWRP. You may need to flash the Emotion kernel... it's been awhile since I unlocked Lollipop.
douger1957 said:
Go into download mode. From phone off, hold the volume down, power and home buttons together. If it says "mode: developer" in the upper left hand corner when you get it in developer mode, your bootloader is unlocked. At that point you can pick up the instructions for flashing SuperSU and TWRP. You may need to flash the Emotion kernel... it's been awhile since I unlocked Lollipop.
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I'm about to head home to try this out. maybe I'm just a step away from getting this whole thing to work!
Thank you for your help!! I will respond if I have any issues!
yungzhvo said:
Thank you for replying so quickly! :good:
Do you happen to know if this will automatically upgrade me to the newest OTA upgrade?
I want to stay on 5.1.1 so I can try to root it properly. And I've been delaying the OTA upgrade since day 1 and still doing so even with the supposed root I have on my phone right now.
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As long as you use the stock firmware from SamMobile and follow the directions in the video, EXACTLY ......... don't take any shortcuts. You will need to join SamMobile to get the download but its simple and free.
kkretch said:
As long as you use the stock firmware from SamMobile and follow the directions in the video, EXACTLY ......... don't take any shortcuts. You will need to join SamMobile to get the download but its simple and free.
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Hey! Thank you for the advice!
I downloaded the firmware from @hsbadr ! Will that work? Or is it better for me to download it from SamMobile? I want to make sure I don't do anything incorrectly.
p.s. have you already rooted your phone?
yungzhvo said:
Hey! Thank you for the advice!
I downloaded the firmware from @hsbadr ! Will that work? Or is it better for me to download it from SamMobile? I want to make sure I don't do anything incorrectly.
p.s. have you already rooted your phone?
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SamMobile is very reliable but if you trust your source then you should be OK. I have done the root thing many times years ago but I'm happy with stock firmware and I need my devices to work without issue so I leave well enough alone.
Earlier today I had a VZW N910V Dev Ed. I tried flashing firmware through odin and now it is borked.
when I try to boot normally, I get loops of the samsung screen.
I tried this guys solution AND CAN NOW BOOT INTO 5.1.1 BUILD NUMBERLMY47X.N910VVRU2BPA1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/verizon-note-4-flash-odin-t3470166
WHAT A VALUEBLEPOST!
I'm guessing I have to start from scratch.\ and I don't even know how to start from scratch.
I eventually, would like to be rooted and on hsbadr's newest "EmotionOS" 7.1.1 rom
I don't know what to do next.
THanks!
plainbum said:
Earlier today I had a VZW N910V Dev Ed. I tried flashing firmware through odin and now it is borked.
when I try to boot normally, I get loops of the samsung screen.
I tried this guys solution AND CAN NOW BOOT INTO 5.1.1 BUILD NUMBERLMY47X.N910VVRU2BPA1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/help/verizon-note-4-flash-odin-t3470166
WHAT A VALUEBLEPOST!
I'm guessing I have to start from scratch.\ and I don't even know how to start from scratch.
I eventually, would like to be rooted and on hsbadr's newest "EmotionOS" 7.1.1 rom
I don't know what to do next.
THanks!
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Since you can boot into BPA1, you can use this video and this guide to root your phone.
quinciebee said:
Since you can boot into BPA1, you can use this video and this guide to root your phone.
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THank you for your guidance!
After I follow this guide, how would I then move onto habadr's 7.1.1 EMotionOS"?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/emotionos-t3528639
THanks again!
plainbum said:
THank you for your guidance!
After I follow the guide, hoew would I then move onto habadr's 7.1.1 EMotionOS"?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/emotionos-t3528639
THanks again!
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After following the guide above, you will gain root on BPA1.
Then from there, you'll use this guide by hsbadr, to upgrade to marshmallow. It's a long process, but it's worth it. Also, make sure that you have a mobile data connection during the marshmallow upgrade, because your Wi-Fi won't work. After you've update to CPJ2 using this guide, you can then flash EmotionOS.
quinciebee said:
After following the guide above, you will gain root on BPA1.
Then from there, you'll use this guide by hsbadr, to upgrade to marshmallow. It's a long process, but it's worth it. Also, make sure that you have a mobile data connection during the marshmallow upgrade, because your Wi-Fi won't work. After you've update to CPJ2 using this guide, you can then flash EmotionOS.
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Still trying to get root on 5.1.1
Stuck at :
after I run KingoRoot go to
"adb shell"
then when I enter
"su"
no "#" NOTHING, it hangs for 20 minutes and nothing.
then if I reboot, i get bootloops.
Ive wiped and tried this 3 times, same results, no #
Im going to try King root next.
Grrr!
plainbum said:
Still trying to get root on 5.1.1
Stuck at :
after I run KingoRoot go to
"adb shell"
then when I enter
"su"
no "#" NOTHING, it hangs for 20 minutes and nothing.
then if I reboot, i get bootloops.
Ive wiped and tried this 3 times, same results, no #
Im going to try King root next.
Grrr!
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I forgot to tell you that if Kingo Root doesn't work, try King Root. Also, if you get a root successful message, don't even use root checker, as long as you know you've got root. Just move into the adb steps, temp root is very touchy and can reboot your phone at any time, so try to go through the adb steps quickly.
quinciebee said:
I forgot to tell you that if Kingo Root doesn't work, try King Root. Also, if you get a root successful message, don't even use root checker, as long as you know you've got root. Just move into the adb steps, perm root is very temperamental and can reboot your phone at any time, so try to go through the adb steps quickly.
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Used king root and learned to be real quick.
I then pasted all those ABD commands and got twrp installed but when I rebooted, I got boot loops. :-/
so I booted into recovery and wound up installing Jasmine rom 4.3 ( Mjust happened to have on my original old micro sd ) to avoid starting all over, and it seems to have taken!
Looks like I still have root.
Seems to run fine without installing oscar Kernel and SUper SU, should I still install those two?
Can I uninstall king root?
Im thinking I should make a backup through twrp, what do you think?
Thnaks again, can't wait to proceed to Hsbard's 7.1.1!
plainbum said:
Used king root and learned to be real quick.
I then pasted all those ABD commands and got twrp installed but when I rebooted, I got boot loops. :-/
so I booted into recovery and wound up installing Jasmine rom 4.3 ( Mjust happened to have on my original old micro sd ) to avoid starting all over, and it seems to have taken!
Looks like I still have root.
Seems to run fine without installing oscar Kernel and SUper SU, should I still install those two?
Can I uninstall king root?
Im thinking I should make a backup through twrp, what do you think?
Thnaks again, can't wait to proceed to Hsbard's 7.1.1!
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Yeah, you should probably make a backup in twrp, just so you don't have to start over again if anything goes wrong. Were you running 5.1.1 or 6.0.1 before you flashed JasmineROM?
5.1.1 from the video walkthrough you suggested,
Seems to run fine without installing oscar Kernel .
Thanks again, can't wait to proceed to Hsbard's 7.1.1!
plainbum said:
5.1.1 from the video walkthrough you suggested,
Seems to run fine without installing oscar Kernel .
Thanks again, can't wait to proceed to Hsbard's 7.1.1!
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You're welcome, please post a screenshot of your About Phone section, I want to see what build and baseband you're on, and yes, you can uninstall King Root. The boot loop that you had after rooting could have been fixed by pulling the battery and or SD card.
quinciebee said:
You're welcome, please post a screenshot of your About Phone section, I want to see what build and baseband you're on, and yes, you can uninstall King Root. The boot loop that you had after rooting could have been fixed by pulling the battery and or SD card.
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Dang, I hope I didn't screw anything up..fingers crossed
plainbum said:
Dang, I hope I didn't screw anything up..fingers crossed
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Okay, so it seems like you're on the correct baseband, however, you probably shouldn't have flashed JasmineROM after rooting. You skipped the second guide that I posted. After you root stock 5.1.1 BPA1, you then need to upgrade to 6.0.1 from there before you can flash EmotionOS. I'm not entirely sure if you can still use the second guide that I posted since you're no longer on stock BPA1. For the most part, I think that you can, so if you're willing to risk it, use that second guide I posted to update to 6.0.1, this is also where you'll be needing a data connection since the your Wi-Fi won't be working.
quinciebee said:
Okay, so it seems like you're on the correct baseband, however, you probably shouldn't have flashed JasmineROM after rooting. You skipped the second guide that I posted. After you root stock 5.1.1 BPA1, you then need to upgrade to 6.0.1 from there before you can flash EmotionOS. I'm not entirely sure if you can still use the second guide that I posted since you're no longer on stock BPA1. For the most part, I think that you can, so if you're willing to risk it, use that second guide I posted to update to 6.0.1, this is also where you'll be needing a data connection since the your Wi-Fi won't be working.
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I panicked at the boot loops and thought to myself, "what do I have to lose by flashing jasmine, a 5.1.1 rom?"
My other option, I thought, was to start all over again, which I still may have to do.
I will precede Saturday night, after my out of town relatives leave.
I AM SOOOOO HAPPY, WHERE I AM AT, THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSISTENT HELP AND ADVICE THROUGH THIS "ORDEAL: I GOT MYSELF INTO!!!!
You are truly an asset to this forum!!
THanks again!
BBL
plainbum said:
I panicked at the boot loops and thought to myself, "what do I have to lose by flashing jasmine, a 5.1.1 rom?"
My other option, I thought, was to start all over again, which I still may have to do.
I will precede Saturday night, after my out of town relatives leave.
I AM SOOOOO HAPPY, WHERE I AM AT, THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSISTENT HELP AND ADVICE THROUGH THIS "ORDEAL: I GOT MYSELF INTO!!!!
You are truly an asset to this forum!!
THanks again!
BBL
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You're welcome, good luck :good:
quinciebee said:
Okay, so it seems like you're on the correct baseband, however, you probably shouldn't have flashed JasmineROM after rooting. You skipped the second guide that I posted. After you root stock 5.1.1 BPA1, you then need to upgrade to 6.0.1 from there before you can flash EmotionOS. I'm not entirely sure if you can still use the second guide that I posted since you're no longer on stock BPA1. For the most part, I think that you can, so if you're willing to risk it, use that second guide I posted to update to 6.0.1, this is also where you'll be needing a data connection since the your Wi-Fi won't be working.
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You're welcome, good luck :good:
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Well house geusts are back at home and I started tinkering with my phone again to get me closer to NOugat.
I managed to get hsbadr's CM13 installed, rooted and working pretty good!
One thing that is not working is 4G LTe
I DO have 3G
GPS and phone works...
I thought, before I do something to screw what I have, I would ask you for advice
Here is a Screenshot of my about:
Thanks again for your help!
plainbum said:
Well house geusts are back at home and I started tinkering with my phone again to get me closer to NOugat.
I managed to get hsbadr's CM13 installed, rooted and working pretty good!
One thing that is not working is 4G LTe
I DO have 3G
GPS and phone works...
I thought, before I do something to screw what I have, I would ask you for advice
Here is a Screenshot of my about:
Thanks again for your help!
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What's your APN setting?
quinciebee said:
What's your APN setting?
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APN = VZWINTERNET
Preferred Network type was Global then I tried a few others like CDMA + LTE/EvDo and LTE and GSM/WCDMA/LTE but no 4g
I also flashed BPA1 modem from here as suggested in the forums but still no 4g LTE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
plainbum said:
APN = VZWINTERNET
Preferred Network type was Global then I tried a few others like CDMA + LTE/EvDo and LTE and GSM/WCDMA/LTE but no 4g
I also flashed BPA1 modem from here as suggested in the forums but still no 4g LTE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
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Honestly, I have no idea what the problem could be, as I'm on T-Mobile and not Verizon. Try asking around the CM13 thread and see if another VZW user has the same issue.
I followed 3 threads. Still i cant do it. I ended up like bootloop or stock in logo. Sometimes it success but no wifi and Many errors (too many to mention).
At some point i give up in rooting and unlocking. I just ended up upgrading my phone in verizon software pc just to get back to normal.
I hope there anyone could help me with this. I want that nougat flash rom. ?
Links for thread or video tutorial would be a big thanks.
Samsung note 4 verizon
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Tootstriker said:
I followed 3 threads. Still i cant do it. I ended up like bootloop or stock in logo. Sometimes it success but no wifi and Many errors (too many to mention).
At some point i give up in rooting and unlocking. I just ended up upgrading my phone in verizon software pc just to get back to normal.
I hope there anyone could help me with this. I want that nougat flash rom.
Links for thread or video tutorial would be a big thanks.
Samsung note 4 verizon
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Which part are you getting stuck on? To be honest most of the guides I've seen have several unnecessary steps in them, but it does require much patience especially if you're a beginner or been out of the game for awhile. I would stick to the original thread by ryanbg and pay close attention to the first ten pages of that thread. That's when everyone was learning it at the same time and a lot of the basics are covered.
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kevintm78 said:
Which part are you getting stuck on? To be honest most of the guides I've seen have several unnecessary steps in them, but it does require much patience especially if you're a beginner or been out of the game for awhile. I would stick to the original thread by ryanbg and pay close attention to the first ten pages of that thread. That's when everyone was learning it at the same time and a lot of the basics are covered.
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I stuck on flashing it. Btw thanks
Tootstriker said:
I stuck on flashing it. Btw thanks
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You mean downgrading to 5.1.1? Or which file are you flashing and what's your current firmware?
kevintm78 said:
You mean downgrading to 5.1.1? Or which file are you flashing and what's your current firmware?
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Im currently in 6.0.1 i want to flash to nougat. I mean custom rom.
Tootstriker said:
Im currently in 6.0.1 i want to flash to nougat. I mean custom rom.
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And your bootloader is locked still? If you're not sure, are you able to boot to a custom recovery (twrp)? If your bootloader is still locked you will have to use Odin and flash the bpa1 firmware to get back to lollipop (5.1.1). Once you're on 5.1.1 you can unlock and root. There currently is no other way to unlock without using 5.1.1.
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And your bootloader is locked still? If you're not sure, are you able to boot to a custom recovery (twrp)? If your bootloader is still locked you will have to use Odin and flash the bpa1 firmware to get back to lollipop (5.1.1). Once you're on 5.1.1 you can unlock and root. There currently is no other way to unlock without using 5.1.1.
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I see. Thanks.
So close lol
Tootstriker said:
I followed 3 threads. Still i cant do it. I ended up like bootloop or stock in logo. Sometimes it success but no wifi and Many errors (too many to mention).
At some point i give up in rooting and unlocking. I just ended up upgrading my phone in verizon software pc just to get back to normal.
I hope there anyone could help me with this. I want that nougat flash rom.
Links for thread or video tutorial would be a big thanks.
Samsung note 4 verizon
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You were supposed to bootloop it bud (its an indicator that script in the zip changed your CID) you should now flash recovery then from recovery flash compatible kernel (is why its its bootlooping)
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And almost forgot .....you cannot have sdcard used in unlock in phone unless you formatted it.
I recently bought an unlocked g3 off ebay with the latest update. Kingroot doens't work and so far i guess the only way to root it would be to downgrade first but i'm a total noob to rooting and the only threads i've found on that have invalid links to the tools i'd need. Was wondering if somebody could help me out with a crystal clear eli5 guide to rooting or w/e i need to do to downgrade then root. Thanks.
KyleForYou said:
I recently bought an unlocked g3 off ebay with the latest update. Kingroot doens't work and so far i guess the only way to root it would be to downgrade first but i'm a total noob to rooting and the only threads i've found on that have invalid links to the tools i'd need. Was wondering if somebody could help me out with a crystal clear eli5 guide to rooting or w/e i need to do to downgrade then root. Thanks.
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i followed this... worked great.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-d851-t-mobile-downgrading-rooting-t3608851
if u go to page 2 the link for 30d firmware was re uploaded
also.. in lg tool click normal flash..
don't forget lg drivers for pc.. install 1st https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_151319942417213&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&libId=jb5juvsz01000n4o000DLuns30j5lrbwr&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fsprint-lg-g3%2Fgeneral%2Fguide-how-to-restore-sprint-lg-g3-ls990-t2852042&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Ftool.xcdn.gdms.lge.com%2Fdn%2Fdownloader.dev%3FfileKey%3DUW00120120425&title=%5BGUIDE%5D%5BDISCUSSION%5D%20How%20To%20Restore%20The%20Sprin%E2%80%A6%20%7C%20Sprint%20LG%20G3&txt=LG%20Drivers
kingroot app.. https://kingroot.net/
So all that works, and youll be able to root but only temproot until you reboot your g3 then youll have to root all over again.
HingleMcCringleberry said:
So all that works, and youll be able to root but only temproot until you reboot your g3 then youll have to root all over again.
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If you follow the guide, you would also install TWRP & SuperSU and keep root.
christoophat said:
If you follow the guide, you would also install TWRP & SuperSU and keep root.
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Which guide? Is there a way to do it without getting stuck on TMo screen? I feel like im so close to permanent root just need that last step but I keep getting stuck on tmo screen
HingleMcCringleberry said:
Which guide? Is there a way to do it without getting stuck on TMo screen? I feel like im so close to permanent root just need that last step but I keep getting stuck on tmo screen
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This one, but looks like you've already been there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-d851-30d-kdz-flashable-zips-imgs-t3367371
christoophat said:
This one, but looks like you've already been there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-d851-30d-kdz-flashable-zips-imgs-t3367371
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Yeah lol ive gotten past the whole twrp thing, however, my phone gets stuck after I flash the last 2 zips (autorepack and supersu) and reboot. Could it be a corrupt zip?