Anyone using the new Shield with a Harmony Hub? I have it all set up, the controller works great, I now have only one to replace 4. However, it works via bluetooth... so when you ask Echo to 'turn on the Android Box', she can't get the Shield to turn on. She can turn everything off, just not on... When I get home this evening, I will try to edit the activity so that the Android Box never turns off... it doesn't consume much energy, so shouldn't be a problem & it should be primed to come on with the voice command.
Funny thing is, that with one press of the button on the remote, all turns on perfectly... Anyone else who has it working, please let me know.
how did you set it up, scan for wifi or manually? I haven't gotten around to it yet but on the nvidia forums people have said it doesn't map the OK button properly. OK and select are apparently concurrently sent by the shield remote, but the Harmony only uses select. some apps use OK while others use select. some have mentioned setting it as the Nexus player instead.
as for your question, like I said I haven't set up my shield yet but with my fire TV I can tell Alexa to turn it on and all my components turn on properly. if the fire TV is asleep hitting any button on the Harmony (mapped to a fire TV command) will wake it
Is there difference between shield one and two?
I have a hub working fine with shield 1. It is just a stand alone hub...no remote was included and entire setup was done via the harmony phone app. It turns on/off perectly along with my TV and home theater receiver using either the app or with my Amazon echo: "Alexa, turn on shield"....lol, I love it!
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Is there difference between shield one and two?
I have a hub working fine with shield 1. It is just a stand alone hub...no remote was included and entire setup was done via the harmony phone app. It turns on/off perectly along with my TV and home theater receiver using either the app or with my Amazon echo: "Alexa, turn on shield"....lol, I love it!
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Shield 1 has IR, Shield 2 doesn't.
kellybrf said:
how did you set it up, scan for wifi or manually? I haven't gotten around to it yet but on the nvidia forums people have said it doesn't map the OK button properly. OK and select are apparently concurrently sent by the shield remote, but the Harmony only uses select. some apps use OK while others use select. some have mentioned setting it as the Nexus player instead.
as for your question, like I said I haven't set up my shield yet but with my fire TV I can tell Alexa to turn it on and all my components turn on properly. if the fire TV is asleep hitting any button on the Harmony (mapped to a fire TV command) will wake it
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Set it up by inputting the model number, after setup it asked me to pair via BT. My OK button is working well, as is the controller... I've done a load of setting up, kodi etc. & haven't had any issues with button maps. It still won't turn on by voice command, but that's not the end of the world.
I just got mine to work, I said "Alexa turn on shield" and both TV and shield came on.
So... my Shield 2017 got stuck in a loop of rebooting... it would turn on for a few seconds and then turn off again. Happened while I was watching youtube videos, once when watching stuff on Kodi and also when I had left it idle...
I tried disconnecting from the harmony in case that was the cause. Deleted some new apps I had installed... but eventually did a factory reset this morning before work. I'll check it again this evening for the same behaviour.
Anyone experienced similar?
Is anyone else having trouble with the select (OK) button working on the amazon video app? I can get into the app, but once I move over to select a show/movie, the OK button won't work.
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Is anyone else having trouble with the select (OK) button working on the amazon video app? I can get into the app, but once I move over to select a show/movie, the OK button won't work.
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yep, same here.
That was actually fixed a couple days ago. You will need to delete and re-add the shieldTV device inside Harmony to fix it.
Thanks I'll check it out.
I'm curious to know how you got the harmony hub to recognize the shield's Long press button functionality ?
IE: Long pressing the back button on the shield remote inside Kodi brings up the context menu.
[EDIT] -- PLEASE DISREGARD QUESTION ABOVE. Long pressing harmony remote Select/OK button replicates function.
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Shield 1 has IR, Shield 2 doesn't.
Set it up by inputting the model number, after setup it asked me to pair via BT. My OK button is working well, as is the controller... I've done a load of setting up, kodi etc. & haven't had any issues with button maps. It still won't turn on by voice command, but that's not the end of the world.
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Is there a way to have an activity launch an app? Ie when my shield turns on have it launch kodi?
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Sean09 said:
Is there a way to have an activity launch an app? Ie when my shield turns on have it launch kodi?
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Hi Sean have you tried "ok google launch Kodi" when the shield is in standby mode?
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Have not been able to figure this one out - I've configured my IR blaster to control my tv and directv units. It will turn on the tv and I know it communicates with the DTV box as well as it will change channels, hit the guide, menu, etc.
However, if I open the IR blaster in a scenario where both the TV and DTV box are both off, it will turn on the tv, but no the directv unit - it will attempt to change the channel on the dtv unit, but since it's not on, it fails. I have to manually turn on the DTV unit with my DTV remote.
I've gone through the settings/setup a few times and searched for an answer online, but cannot figure this out.
Any suggestions or tips?
What about when you go to the most left screen there's an option to turn on the dtv. I can toggle power from there and it works just fine
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On a side note one thing I've noticed with direct TV is that it gives the commands more than one time when you press a button. For example, if I press menu it'll open the menu then close it and open it again. Almost like the button has been pressed 3 times instead of once. The same happens with the power and guide buttons. Is this how yours is too? If I program these buttons manually using my dtv remote then it goes away.
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thanks for your replies - at work now but will check when I get home and let you know my results.
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thanks for your replies - at work now but will check when I get home and let you know my results.
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Sorry - forgot to get back to this thread.
yes - the default behavior for my DTV box via IR blaster is the commands double up when pressed (e.g. pressing power acts as though I hit the button twice) - if I manually program it the behavior fixes itself.
However I still seem to have problems with turning on the DTV when my tv/dtv is off, I open the IR blaster app, find a show, want to tune to it - the TV will turn on, I can see that it's trying to change the channel, but it doesn't turn on the DTV first, so it fails - once I manually turn on the DTV unit then things are fine - just an extra step.
I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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It should be safe to just unplug, but if you use it often eventually it could cause a problem either in the firmware or the the connection itself. A simple solution would be something like a Woods wireless remote outlet. The one I have comes with 3 plugs and a remote with a switch for each. The plug can take a bit of room on the surge protector but so does the FTV power cord. I just press and hold the select and play buttons on the FTV remote for about 5 seconds and when the screen goes black I hit the power button for the outlet.
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I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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I love low watt setups, so I know the mind set for the OP. It would have been nice to be able power off the device! I was told that lab126 felt the footprint was small enough in standby that it wasn't needed. They also wanted to be able to update when not in use, etc...
You could hook it up the ftv to a power strip. I've seen power strips that have one active outlet and shuts off the rest of the outlets when the primary device is not used. That could be another option?
Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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I'm at work but I can pull the HID/Device info when i get home tonight. I will PM you the info, so we're not clogging the OP's thread.
It takes 3 to 4 watts to stream a movie - measured on a Kill a Watt meter. I forgot what the reading was on sleep mode but its not much. The max watts I've seen was 5 watts and that's while installing an app.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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What gen is it? I heard old mce receivers don't work? My USB receiver is a Phillips/nxp. It came with my zotac mini pc.
I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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Yea, that's what I said. It's set to 30mins. Works fine.
I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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Anything that's interpreted by Android as the POWER button, including the key combinations you mentioned, will put the FTV (or any other Android device) to sleep. I've seen mention of some third-party BT remotes being able to put the FTV to sleep with their POWER button.
If you're rooted, my XBMC repo has a screensaver that can put the FTV to sleep, and also my Confluence++ skin can put it to sleep via the XBMC power menu. Both methods simply simulate a POWER button press.
Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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No, you'll need XBMC.
I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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If you have the Power menu enabled in my skin settings, does the Sleep command put your FTV to sleep? If so, then the screensaver should also work fine if you have the settings in my screensaver set to Sleep.
Yeah .. Figured it out . the screensaver was enabled but not selected under the option under settings/appearance. Thanks
I just received a notification while booting my Fire TV Stick that a new software update is available.
I have sideloaded Kodi, replaced the icon and wondering if an updates overwrittes my Kodi, settings and icon???
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I just received a notification while booting my Fire TV Stick that a new software update is available.
I have sideloaded Kodi, replaced the icon and wondering if an updates overwrittes my Kodi, settings and icon???
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I am assuming you used Lama to set ikonotv as your main screen icon to start kodi and then replace its icon with kodi icon. If this is correct then you will need to push them again every time you power your unit off or after every update your stick will take.
Will the fire stick software/firmware update mess up any Kodi settings?
No, but I have noticed one thing since the latest update, if storage gets low and I play anything with Kodi the remote will not do anything inside the video screen. So I have to hit the home button and clean storage before the remote will work while media is playing inside Kodi. The remote still works on everything else, but the back button, directional buttons, play/pause, round enter button, menu button and rewind/fast foward buttons will not do anything, so if I click on a video and it starts playing, the only way to get out of the video screen is to hit the home button. This has always happened with the onscreen keyboard on all OSs, if the storage gets low the letters no longer appear on the XBMC/Kodi keyboard, but this is the first time the remote has not worked while playing videos in Kodi. Its not just the Fire TV remote either, its all devices that control Kodi. The mouse and keyboard also stop working while media is playing inside Kodi if the storage gets to low. If you hit any button or move the mouse, it does nothing if storage gets too low, but they still work after hitting the home button. Just thought I would let people know incase it happens to them too. Simple solution, just clean storage. I recreated the problem too by filling the device with a random large file, after deleting the file the problem went away.
I have set up some fire tv sticks (stock, non-root) with the latest kodi + llama and IP TV. Works pretty well so far. But there is a big problem: often the streams keep running if accidentally the home button is pressed and the fire tv stick got back to homescreen. Even if you put the stick manually in "sleep mode" the stream keeps running in the background (you can her the audio on the tv speaker). How can I fix this?
You could try to set up a Llama rule: when KODI is running and HOME button is pressed then kill KODI.
Well, how to set it up in llama to detect home button press?
Try the following (LLama starts in german on my devices so my translation may not be exact but the meaning should be clear ):
1.) create a new Llama rule
2.) set a new condition for "KODI" but change the default value "is started or in foreground" to "is quit or in background"
3.) kill application "KODI"
What should happen here: as long as KODI runs regulary nothing because it is still in foreground but when the HOME button is pressed KODI should go to the background and here the Llama condition 2.) should be triggered and Llama has to 3.) kill KODI.
thanks for sharing your idea. I set up llama according to your suggestion but unfortunately it not work. The stream is still running in the background, even when you put the fire tv stick manually in sleep mode you can still hear the audio.
If you hold down the home button long enough from the amazon home screen, you'll get option to go to settings>applications>manage applications>kodi>force stop.
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If you hold down the home button long enough from the amazon home screen, you'll get option to go to settings>applications>manage applications>kodi>force stop.
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Well that works but pretty complicated and I am sure my kids won't do that always before they shut off tv.
I observed that on a Fire TV that problem not arises. But on the FTV stick it does. Something must be different with the sleep mode.
In firestarter go to settings and under "home button single click application" select "no action". It worked for me on a stick and fire tv. Ususally its set to FireTV home. I was able to replicate your issue on a stick and fire tv and setting the home button single click application to no action in the firestarter setting worked for me. But keep in mind that kodi will still be running in the background as its only paused. So if you double click home button from the amazon home screen you'll just go back to kodi on a paused screen. Kodi should always be turned off using it's power button or force closed from amazon app settings.