I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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billsam38 said:
I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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It should be safe to just unplug, but if you use it often eventually it could cause a problem either in the firmware or the the connection itself. A simple solution would be something like a Woods wireless remote outlet. The one I have comes with 3 plugs and a remote with a switch for each. The plug can take a bit of room on the surge protector but so does the FTV power cord. I just press and hold the select and play buttons on the FTV remote for about 5 seconds and when the screen goes black I hit the power button for the outlet.
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I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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I love low watt setups, so I know the mind set for the OP. It would have been nice to be able power off the device! I was told that lab126 felt the footprint was small enough in standby that it wasn't needed. They also wanted to be able to update when not in use, etc...
You could hook it up the ftv to a power strip. I've seen power strips that have one active outlet and shuts off the rest of the outlets when the primary device is not used. That could be another option?
Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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I'm at work but I can pull the HID/Device info when i get home tonight. I will PM you the info, so we're not clogging the OP's thread.
It takes 3 to 4 watts to stream a movie - measured on a Kill a Watt meter. I forgot what the reading was on sleep mode but its not much. The max watts I've seen was 5 watts and that's while installing an app.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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What gen is it? I heard old mce receivers don't work? My USB receiver is a Phillips/nxp. It came with my zotac mini pc.
I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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Yea, that's what I said. It's set to 30mins. Works fine.
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Everytime im done with my Ouya, I go to the main screen press Y and choose "turn off ouya". I know that the ouya shuts down because the input on my tv goes blank and says that no source have been found. Now when I try to turn on my ouya,lets say about 1.5 hours later my ouya is already turned on and is asking me to shut down.
Why is this happening to me? Am I not shutting down correctly?why does the ouya turn itself on?
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Everytime im done with my Ouya, I go to the main screen press Y and choose "turn off ouya". I know that the ouya shuts down because the input on my tv goes blank and says that no source have been found. Now when I try to turn on my ouya,lets say about 1.5 hours later my ouya is already turned on and is asking me to shut down.
Why is this happening to me? Am I not shutting down correctly?why does the ouya turn itself on?
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Wish I could answer, but at least I'm glad to know I'm not the only one running into this issue. I'll do the exact same thing to shut down, and notice my TV's input still shows active, I'll switch back, and it's asking to shut down Ouya / Controller / Cancel. I'll do the shutdown again, and then wait for it to show No Signal on my monitor. I hope this will be also be addressed by a future update...
When you shut off with the menu options ouya is actually going to a low power sleep mode instead of turning off - similar to a android tablet or phone when you just push the power button or close a case cover, the next time you push it it is an instant on instead of a boot process.
Apparently it failing to stay asleep has something to do with the HDMI interface, though I can't technically confirm or deny this I do know it's entirely possible.
The only way I've found to actually shut it off is to either hold the power button for a few seconds until it shuts off, or pull the power plug (not recommended.)
Or root, install QuickReboot and shutdown with it...
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I am facing the same issue. I did changed the HDMI cable with some other one. this is weird:cyclops:
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The only way I've found to actually shut it off is to either hold the power button for a few seconds until it shuts off, or pull the power plug (not recommended.)
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This actually works. Thank you.
Hdmi activity wakes up OUYA, many TV's scan inputs so they don't list them in "source" menu and this turns OUYA back on. A poorly thought out feature.
Rather than doing a hard shut down, you can do a full shut down by holding the power button for a full second or two. You will then get an on screen prompt to confirm shut down, this will do a full shut down not just put it to sleep like it does when you use the controller to initiate it. Constantly killing power to a running system will probably start corrupting files at some point.
There is also some sort of sleep or screen or keep awake option in advanced settings that is supposed to disable the hdmi wake up.
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It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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You can set the screen saver time in settings I have mine at 15 minutes. But after 30 minutes of inactivity it will shutdown. it's really just a deeper sleep then a full power off.
I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
Does it turn of if your downloading an app.
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I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
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This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
Have you experienced with sleep option on xbmc I have not tried it yet with the Fire TV. Not sure if it just exits xbmc when it reaches 0?
Another option would be to see if SleepTimer can be sideloaded on Fire TV. Not sure if this would work on the Fire TV but you could set to exit your "music" app after a certain amount of time and just set XBMC as the music app.
I'm having an issue that I haven't sorted out yet where it won't seem to sleep even on the default home screen when I have my USB XBox 360 controller plugged in. This happened before I sideloaded antyhing too, and I thought it might be of some help if there was any USB device that may be preventing sleep for someone here too.
would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
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would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
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I've been able to do a reboot over adb but I'm not sure if there is a shutdown command. With root I'd assume we'll be able to shutdown pretty easily.
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Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
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That's awesome news! I'll try it on my wireless keyboard too and report back (if I remember to )
not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
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not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
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You sure? Mine just restarts.
I don't think it ever turns off completely. The light will go out, but if it was 100% off you would have to unplug it and plug it back in to get the control to work. There is no off switch.
Mine restarts as well. Only way I have found to turn it off is to unplug it.
Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
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Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
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What software version do you have.... as version 51.1.0.1 say shuting down but then actually reboots.
Don't be concerned with the fire TV staying on when not in use, your tv uses more in standby power mode than the fire tv uses in full power mode.
The box is made very well, all that weight comes from cast aluminum, the whole case is one big heat sink.
before and after new firmware, box still turns off on my side. well it says powering off, then amazon logo comes on as in its restarting or something, but actually turns off.
Hours later, I can still see it polling for the remote's battery state. It never really turns off. That's probably for the best, user experience wise. You wouldn't want to click the remote and have absolutely nothing happen.
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This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
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yes, get elmerohueso screensaver, he nicely enough updated it so even if you left xbmc paused, it will stop the video, and initiate suspend. my firetv is always sleeping now
I'm trying to implement the ability to get the FTV to sleep from an XBMC addon. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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I'm trying to implement the ability to get the FTV to sleep from an XBMC addon. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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I would like to point out, it's like a regular android phone sleeping. It's still awake and still responds to adb and whatnot. The light turns off, and the cpu might be downclocked a little, but that's about it.
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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Unfortunately, I don't have one of those media keyboards to check this, but can you tell from the XBMC log which keycode and/or command that's binding to? In the official keymap the sleep/power buttons just seem to call ActivateWindow(shutdownmenu) (showing the shutdown menu).
Edit: On second thought, it might be the FTV itself interpreting that button as kicking it into sleep mode, not a command from XBMC doing it.
Edit 2: Yup, think I've got it figured out. I'll test it out tonight.
Edit 3: Tested, working, and released.
I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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Anything that's interpreted by Android as the POWER button, including the key combinations you mentioned, will put the FTV (or any other Android device) to sleep. I've seen mention of some third-party BT remotes being able to put the FTV to sleep with their POWER button.
If you're rooted, my XBMC repo has a screensaver that can put the FTV to sleep, and also my Confluence++ skin can put it to sleep via the XBMC power menu. Both methods simply simulate a POWER button press.
Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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No, you'll need XBMC.
I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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If you have the Power menu enabled in my skin settings, does the Sleep command put your FTV to sleep? If so, then the screensaver should also work fine if you have the settings in my screensaver set to Sleep.
Yeah .. Figured it out . the screensaver was enabled but not selected under the option under settings/appearance. Thanks
Anyone using the new Shield with a Harmony Hub? I have it all set up, the controller works great, I now have only one to replace 4. However, it works via bluetooth... so when you ask Echo to 'turn on the Android Box', she can't get the Shield to turn on. She can turn everything off, just not on... When I get home this evening, I will try to edit the activity so that the Android Box never turns off... it doesn't consume much energy, so shouldn't be a problem & it should be primed to come on with the voice command.
Funny thing is, that with one press of the button on the remote, all turns on perfectly... Anyone else who has it working, please let me know.
how did you set it up, scan for wifi or manually? I haven't gotten around to it yet but on the nvidia forums people have said it doesn't map the OK button properly. OK and select are apparently concurrently sent by the shield remote, but the Harmony only uses select. some apps use OK while others use select. some have mentioned setting it as the Nexus player instead.
as for your question, like I said I haven't set up my shield yet but with my fire TV I can tell Alexa to turn it on and all my components turn on properly. if the fire TV is asleep hitting any button on the Harmony (mapped to a fire TV command) will wake it
Is there difference between shield one and two?
I have a hub working fine with shield 1. It is just a stand alone hub...no remote was included and entire setup was done via the harmony phone app. It turns on/off perectly along with my TV and home theater receiver using either the app or with my Amazon echo: "Alexa, turn on shield"....lol, I love it!
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Is there difference between shield one and two?
I have a hub working fine with shield 1. It is just a stand alone hub...no remote was included and entire setup was done via the harmony phone app. It turns on/off perectly along with my TV and home theater receiver using either the app or with my Amazon echo: "Alexa, turn on shield"....lol, I love it!
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Shield 1 has IR, Shield 2 doesn't.
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how did you set it up, scan for wifi or manually? I haven't gotten around to it yet but on the nvidia forums people have said it doesn't map the OK button properly. OK and select are apparently concurrently sent by the shield remote, but the Harmony only uses select. some apps use OK while others use select. some have mentioned setting it as the Nexus player instead.
as for your question, like I said I haven't set up my shield yet but with my fire TV I can tell Alexa to turn it on and all my components turn on properly. if the fire TV is asleep hitting any button on the Harmony (mapped to a fire TV command) will wake it
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Set it up by inputting the model number, after setup it asked me to pair via BT. My OK button is working well, as is the controller... I've done a load of setting up, kodi etc. & haven't had any issues with button maps. It still won't turn on by voice command, but that's not the end of the world.
I just got mine to work, I said "Alexa turn on shield" and both TV and shield came on.
So... my Shield 2017 got stuck in a loop of rebooting... it would turn on for a few seconds and then turn off again. Happened while I was watching youtube videos, once when watching stuff on Kodi and also when I had left it idle...
I tried disconnecting from the harmony in case that was the cause. Deleted some new apps I had installed... but eventually did a factory reset this morning before work. I'll check it again this evening for the same behaviour.
Anyone experienced similar?
Is anyone else having trouble with the select (OK) button working on the amazon video app? I can get into the app, but once I move over to select a show/movie, the OK button won't work.
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Is anyone else having trouble with the select (OK) button working on the amazon video app? I can get into the app, but once I move over to select a show/movie, the OK button won't work.
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yep, same here.
That was actually fixed a couple days ago. You will need to delete and re-add the shieldTV device inside Harmony to fix it.
Thanks I'll check it out.
I'm curious to know how you got the harmony hub to recognize the shield's Long press button functionality ?
IE: Long pressing the back button on the shield remote inside Kodi brings up the context menu.
[EDIT] -- PLEASE DISREGARD QUESTION ABOVE. Long pressing harmony remote Select/OK button replicates function.
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Shield 1 has IR, Shield 2 doesn't.
Set it up by inputting the model number, after setup it asked me to pair via BT. My OK button is working well, as is the controller... I've done a load of setting up, kodi etc. & haven't had any issues with button maps. It still won't turn on by voice command, but that's not the end of the world.
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Is there a way to have an activity launch an app? Ie when my shield turns on have it launch kodi?
launch kodi at turn on
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Is there a way to have an activity launch an app? Ie when my shield turns on have it launch kodi?
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Hi Sean have you tried "ok google launch Kodi" when the shield is in standby mode?