I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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try stock, try custom.. then let us know whats best for you. choice, my friend, is a wonderful thing
it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
Have you guys tried the Gummy ROM or lean kernel? Any tips to avoid any of the problems I mentioned such as shutter lag or UI lag?
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
did the stock thing (with a few root mods like battery, menu button, brightness) for a couple months, then loaded up AOKP + leankernel and love the customization and battery life
will not go back to stock
If your device does what you want it to RIGHT NOW, then stay stock. If there are features that you want and only a custom rom can provide, then try a ROM, but be aware that custom kernels and ROMS can break some functions on your phone.
I was using CM7 on my previous android phone and lost the ability to receive voicemail notifications because of it.
Decide if you need "more", but accept any risks that come up because of it.
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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DaF1974 said:
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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+1 for aokp + franco , they are awesome.
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
Nadroid - flash = see for yourself. I also recommend AOKP M3. And stock has bugs also. The only ROM that ever rebooted on me, was stock. So. Nothing is perfect that is why we like to change everything.
I'm using stock still, but rooted and using a modified status bar transparent. I plan to switch to custom but just taking my time. You can easily just nand backup your stock rom, flash custom for testing, then restore your stock backup if need be. There are lots of enhancements in the custom roms that is worthwhile.
I only got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday, however i think the stock rom is great to be honest.
There was always some problem with custom roms on the Desire.
If i was going to use a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus i would wait for the stable release of CM9 or MIUI (if there ever is a stable one).
For now stock is fine for me personally, only thing i really miss is all the settings in the notification tray, but rooted stock is working perfect for me and its nice to have a perfectly working phone for once
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I know what you mean. I kept mine stock for months, which is longer than any other phone I've had. But I finally bit the bullet and went custom and I'm glad I did. You just gotta try for your self and see which you prefer.
frow86 said:
it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
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Laird_Attwood said:
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
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after doing whatever you want to your phone, if youre not going to flash anything, relock bootloader
stupidslow02gt said:
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
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A(ndroid)O(pen)S(ource)P(roject).
A(ndroid)O(pen)K(kang)P(project) is a custom rom by TeamKang, based on AOSP releases from Google.
Search tags: kang, aosp, source.android.com
@OP, i say just go with whatever you feel is working for you. If you feel stock is better, stick with it. I run my nexus bone stock (even with stock recovery, i use fastboot to boot cwm once, flash zip with a different font, just tired of roboto) from time to time, to get a grip of how things are going with official releases. I have no issues.
And there's no more Android OS bug. Use better battery stats (here in xda) to see whats causing wakelocks, which drains battery more than usual. If you have lte device you'll have considerably worse runtime on battery, if you on gsm then you'll get around 1d15h with 3h40 screen on with stock, when all is optimal. Lets face it, current battery technology blows.
Read a lot before flashing anything, till the point you are able to help others when they face issues without having really tested it yourself, to know possible advantages/disadvantages of x software/mod, if its user error, apps, or custom rom, or stock.
This is android as its supposed to be, some have even got bored of how easy it gets to play with this device.
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sillverdj said:
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Yea LiquidSmooth is what I'm running on. Very fast and loads of features while being easy on the battery.
Everyone claims their 'insert rom' is easier on battery, but with the exception of those who have actively coded something like AOKP's battery saver, or BAMF Paradigm's tasker support in their LTE widget, its a bunch of BS.
Someone please show me, aside from the above, source code for a rom that saves battery. I'll settle for a github commit.
Most battery savings will come from lack of bugs that cause resource leaks and wake locks, or kernels.
All these claims are ranking right up there with statements like "deodexed for performance" or "ribbed for her pleasure".
I did flash a rom early on (Apex I believe it was) and I forget the reasoning behind me going back to stock but I am completely happy with staying on stock (& rooted) yakju. I will probably go to a rom sometime again in the future but for now I am good.
The good thing about flashing stock is that it is so easy to do it with fastboot so at any time you arent happy with roms you can just go back to stock.
so i used to have a nexus and just find the experience of stock android to be superior to anything. I love the work on cm10, aokp, miui etc. developers are amazing, and i know they barely get compensated for it, but there work is amazing. while i have tried cm10 on my own s3, latest build about a week ago, I find i get about 40 percent less battery than a samsung stock based rom like high on android v3. i am not using any different kernels other than the ones that come with the rom. I dont want to undervolt or underclock, as I am not fully comfortable yet with all the aspects of doing so. Is there samsung you guys would suggest for me to do, to maybe get similar or slightly less battery life compared to a stock rom. i am fully aware that cm10 is still a work in progress, and I do not want to complain at all, because developers are amazing and they do this because they love it and we shouldnt expect anything of them. again its not like they are really getting paid. so if anyone could maybe suggest on things they are doing, or maybe its been just me tha has not gotten descent battery life, please let me know. I love cm10 and really want to flash it again, but for my use , i need it to last all day , i cannot be plugged in , thanks guys.
Hi guys!
I've been playing around with my GNex (GSM, stock 1750mAh battery) since last july and my biggest concern is (still) the battery life.
I've noticed that the couple stock rom + stock kernel (the ones the phone come with) is much better than any other custom rom+kernel.
Here comes my (maybe stupid) question: is the battery life somewhat related to the (de)odexed status of the rom?
I mean, I've been looking for all kinds of solutions to take advantage of those features offered by AOKP or PA without suffering from BL issues, but I find silly to sacrifice stability/smoothness/responsiveness/always-on-connection/brightness/whatsoever to gain not that many mins of juice. And I really wonder what is the sourcery Google adopts to make its roms so stable, responsive and battery friendly (e.g. no custom rom/kernel can achieve as much BL as the stock ones). Put differently, with the stock rom/kernel, I can leave 3G always on, auto-sync always on, haptic feedbacks on, location services always on (but GPS) and the battery survives for more than 24h; while, with custom roms/kernels, I could switch everything in the list off and still the battery wouldn't last that long (ceteris paribus).
Could you, please, explain me how it works?
Is there really no way to improve BL other than those listed above?
And, finally, does odexing the system apps (on custom roms) do the trick?
Cheers!
P.s.: the answers I'm looking for may already be in other threads.
If so, I apologize, but I tried googling different keywords many times, and got no interesting results.
For me the biggest source of battery drain is the screen by far. Maybe you enjoy custom ROMs more than the stock one and you keep the screen on more I would think that a custom ROM would be more battery friendly. Which ROMs have you tried?
Endriu90 said:
Hi guys!
I've been playing around with my GNex (GSM, stock 1750mAh battery) since last july and my biggest concern is (still) the battery life.
I've noticed that the couple stock rom + stock kernel (the ones the phone come with) is much better than any other custom rom+kernel.
Here comes my (maybe stupid) question: is the battery life somewhat related to the (de)odexed status of the rom?
I mean, I've been looking for all kinds of solutions to take advantage of those features offered by AOKP or PA without suffering from BL issues, but I find silly to sacrifice stability/smoothness/responsiveness/always-on-connection/brightness/whatsoever to gain not that many mins of juice. And I really wonder what is the sourcery Google adopts to make its roms so stable, responsive and battery friendly (e.g. no custom rom/kernel can achieve as much BL as the stock ones). Put differently, with the stock rom/kernel, I can leave 3G always on, auto-sync always on, haptic feedbacks on, location services always on (but GPS) and the battery survives for more than 24h; while, with custom roms/kernels, I could switch everything in the list off and still the battery wouldn't last that long (ceteris paribus).
Could you, please, explain me how it works?
Is there really no way to improve BL other than those listed above?
And, finally, does odexing the system apps (on custom roms) do the trick?
Cheers!
P.s.: the answers I'm looking for may already be in other threads.
If so, I apologize, but I tried googling different keywords many times, and got no interesting results.
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Thats strange, to me battery life is better with custom ROMs and kernels
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sirxdroid said:
For me the biggest source of battery drain is the screen by far. Maybe you enjoy custom ROMs more than the stock one and you keep the screen on more I would think that a custom ROM would be more battery friendly. Which ROMs have you tried?
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Lol, maybe you're right!
Until now, I tried AOKP and PA roms and franco, AirKernel, GlaDOS and stock kernels (all possible combinations). I found that PA and GlaDOS are the best custom couple, but still not comparable with the factory ones.
However, even tough I have no technical numbers, the usage on custom stuff had been more or less the same as on stock things (although I became a pie-control addict). And what I know for sure, the BL gap is mostly due to screen (i.e. by staring at the launcher home screen for 5 minutes, the battery drains faster with custom roms than with stock roms - still, ceteris paribus).
NexusS4gFreak said:
Thats strange, to me battery life is better with custom ROMs and kernels
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I know that's strange. Things used to work as you say with my HTC Desire. But since I've switched to the Nexus S (and then to the GNex), I strongly preferred stock stuff just because of battery life
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Hello,
What Custom Rom you guys think its best for Battery Life and Stability?
I've been using CM11 for the last few months and now im Trying Omnirom. They are both stable and use the same battery.
I cannot try every rom, so im asking here for your opinion.
I very much doubt battery life would be any different because of ROM version.
It has more to do with individual usage patterns
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BT On/active/streaming
Brightness level/Auto
Data On/updates/push services
Calls talk time
Text/chat apps
Wi-Fi/Hotspot on/active
I'd say if your getting nearly 2h's of screen on time then the ROM is just fine.
There may be others getting more, but it all depends on how you use your device.
I don't mind charging my phone 2-3 times throughout the day(to help keep it topped up), I don't use Wi-Fi since I have unlimited data, unless it's for a large occasional download (testing new ROM/apps) have auto app updates and push services on) and leave BT on to automatically connect to my car stereo and start streaming music and also always leave auto brightness on.
Personally, I have tried lot's of different Custom Roms, and to be honest, none of them are as good as Stock 4.3 in terms of battery life and stability. Yes, other ROMs offer additional features and Android Versions that would otherwise be unavailable, but are mostly less stable, more laggy and have worse battery life. If you want customisation, you can root and use Xposed Framework.
That said!.. the best custom ROM that I have used is both FML Kitkat and FML Lollipop by MWisBest.
adamgraver said:
Personally, I have tried lot's of different Custom Roms, and to be honest, none of them are as good as Stock 4.3 in terms of battery life and stability... ...That said!.. the best custom ROM that I have used is both FML Kitkat and FML Lollipop by MWisBest.
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Recently I went back to 4.2.2 (Verizon) because no roms I could find had decent battery life. I started using greenify to help with memory, as I find that soon as it gets to about 100mb free, the lag is terrible.
So in your opinion FML Kitkat vs stock on battery is worse? I briefly tried FML Lolipop but felt it was too early in dev and buggy
thx,
riz
Screensaver.tv said:
Recently I went back to 4.2.2 (Verizon) because no roms I could find had decent battery life. I started using greenify to help with memory, as I find that soon as it gets to about 100mb free, the lag is terrible.
So in your opinion FML Kitkat vs stock on battery is worse? I briefly tried FML Lolipop but felt it was too early in dev and buggy
thx,
riz
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Yeah, I've always found that stock Jelly Bean has the best battery life. But your experiences may vary with usage.
I have used CM11, PA, Shiny ROM and FML so far. I cannot compare them to stock, since I haven't used stock due to lack of customization features.
IMO, Shiny ROM + Dirty V Kernel with Nephilim's settings had the best battery life. On standby, my phone ran for more than 2 days without a single charge. Performance was decent, although I wouldn't say that it was ideal.
I'm currently running on the latest FML Lollipop + Smitty L Kernel with Nephilim's settings. The battery life is decent, with about a day and a half standby time. Performance is fantastic. If you value both battery life AND performance, you might as well give this a try, as it is definitely worth the effort.
I've been using LeeDroid romfor years but my M8 is now struggling badly with battery.
I was wondering, and struggling to find, any ROM's that play nicely on battery and resources to use the devices as a backup of sorts.
Had a search for the Sailfish OS that looks interesting but seems the M8's ROM support might be finally dying along with the phone.
Any suggestions?
1. You should've asked in Q&A section tbh.
2. There's not much that can be done about bad battery. I'd clean flash the rom again and do some undervolting and underclocking.
If you want to switch roms and want a sense based one then try a debloated stock rom - sometimes stock works best. ICE also had a good battery life.
If not sense based isn't an issue then there's plenty to go around - I think they'd be mostly the same with battery life, so pick whichever one you want - Oreo roms are new, Nougat roms are solid.
I'm currently on RR 5.8.5, did some underclocking and battery life is acceptable for such an old device.