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I know the GNex doesn't have the best reputation with its battery, but in the past couple of weeks, my phone's battery has been behaving very very strangely, and the problem is very intermittent.
Basically, I am seeing some odd battery drain issues, but there are a number of reported sources from looking at the battery information on the phone. Some behaviors that I have experienced:
1. Screen using 43% of battery with 22 minutes of screen on time.
2. Screen using battery when off.
3. Battery discharging down to almost 0 within an hour after unplugging it from being charged to full - no single app / resource reporting huge usage numbers, just a complete drop on the battery chart.
Other things I have observed; if I catch the system in a state where the battery is draining faster than it should, if I reboot, the system will often recover to normal usage.
I am currently using Paranoid Android 3.15 (I know they have updates - but they also broke their own PIE color scheme, apparently intentionally so, so I am sticking with the last known good version). I am using the stock kernel, and have not tried flashing a new one - if anybody has recommendations, I am all ears.
It is also possible that since this is the original stock battery that the battery itself may be going bad, but my observation about the problem tending to go away after a reboot makes me think the issue is not in the battery itself. I guess the ultimate question is, is there anything that can be done here? Or am I stuck with this until I replace the device in 6 months?
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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toyanucci said:
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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I had the exact same problem as you are describing but additionally, my overall battery life wasn't lasting as long as it should either. I ended up sending it to Samsung's repair center to get fixed. I'm not sure what they did but some other people on the forums suggested it was a motherboard issue.
So the capacity of the battery seemed just fine but the readings were crazy (dropping from 50 to 5 in minutes and then on reboot back on 50).
After 2-3 full cycles of charging nothing changed. Flashed fw nothing changed. Went to Samsung service and they just informed me that they changed the battery and now performing final checks.
Hope this will solve the issue. I'm too lucky that I am in the "6 months warranty" window for battery...
How does one go about sending it into Samsung? After getting it back, did you see a significant change?
I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure how to go about it.
I haven't got it back yet. They just called me and they said that apart from the battery, they need to change another part (the telephone operator didn't know which part) and I'm going to receive it tomorrow.
So I'll let you know once I receive it.
STELIOSFAN said:
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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After trying everything (flashing different roms via odin, factory reset, full battery cycles etc) the problem never went away.
Went to Samsung service. They checked the battery and had to replace it.... within the warranty.
Same issue here. Just got an email saying its fixed. They changed the charging port and lcd. Weird that they replaced the lcd.
Well I got it back. Seems they broke the s pen function when taking it out or putting in. The tablet thinks it's always out of its slot. I guess another 2 weeks without this thing. What a pain in the ass. Times like this makes me wish I bought an ipad where I could just walk into the store and get it fixed that day.
I had the same problem. I sent it back on Monday and got it back 7 days later. They did not say what they changed, but now everything is working fine. I even got a new usb cable and a magnetic Germany flag
I sent mine in for an overheating problem and they changed the charging port and gave me a new cable. I initially also had the random drops in battery but seems to be better now.. They said bad voltage going to charging the battery or something. Still have overheating so gotta send it in again?
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So guys did you get it fixed? I have exactly the same problem. I have sent it to fix at the sam service - they changed the charging port, but it didn't help anything. 1,5 years of normal usage and now I can pretty much throw it into the toilet. God damn POS!
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 battery drops
Hello all,
Just wanted to inform you all that I have been experiencing these battery drops (yesterday from 93% to a mere 5% in a matter of minutes) for a very long time now. I am running under the latest 4.4.2 stock firmware.
Also, battery life is way below par (understatement !), where the Note sometimes drops to around or below 5% (the magic number below which the screen starts to dim pretty dramatically and there's no way to influence that)
Funny thing is that after the battery drops to below 5% or even 1 or 2%, it's still possible to use the tablet for quite a number of hours afterwards, which suggests it may be something with the logic estimating/determining the remaining battery capacity, rather than the battery itself....)
Now I've tried draining the battery and fully recharging it multiple times/ resetting the stats using free apps / revert to factory settings etc.
All to no avail unfortunately, this problem simply keeps coming back.
(By the way: Apart from the battery and battery life, the Note is an excellent device, and delivers as promised.
Please also note that charging it through the microUSB cable is also simple, stable and relatively fast, unless you compare it of course to my all new Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which has a superior fast charge mode and offers the highest possible battery-life at this moment and easily beats any other smartphone (including the usual suspects from that Cupertino-based firm of which I can't force my mind to remember the name of.....) in this price-quality and performance category )
As for warranty:
Battery is no longer under warranty, the device itself is.
As such, I will now get the battery replaced by a new Samsung OEM-battery first, and see if that resolves the issue.
If it doesn't help, I will send it in for repair for Samsung.
I will keep you all informed on the resolution and cause.
Likewise, if there's anyone that has gotten to the root cause of this issue, please let me / let us know
Some users reported some 'magic part' OTHER than the battery itself (motherboard / charging circuit or even the lcd ??) having been replaced by Samsung after sending it in for repair.
That information could be very valuable to us all in trying to get Samsung to resolve the issue, so I would really appreciate it if someone would share this info in this thread.
Hey I know that there hasn't been much activity on this particular thread, but i too have been experiencing this problem for over a year now. I sent it into samsung twice and it still never fixed the issue and by the time i was going to send it in the 3rd time it was out of warranty. I personally removed the back cover and unplugged the battery for a while and that did not help. I have tried flashing different ROMS and kernels to no avail until last week. I flashed Temasek's Unofficial Build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/lt03wifi-temaseks-unofficial-build-t2980604 and after 3 full power cycles i have not had a single random drop yet i even managed to go 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time which is a record for me with this device. Not sure if it will help everyone but this seems to have solved my problem and i am thrilled! Also (as embarrassing as it is) i played 2.5 hours of Clash of Clans straight without a single random drop either.
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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Hello KwestJones,
I've successfully replaced the battery in the Note 10.1 2014, and it has improved things. With a little care, this is easy to do. Just removing the battery connector is a bit typical, you need to lift it carefully and slightly to remove it.
The result is not as drastic of an improvement as I would like to have seen, but at least the sudden drops in battery capacity percentage seem to be under control now.
I am doing a video test now, and will see how it behaves and let you know.
BR,
Maarten
Very curious to hear if replacing the battery corrected this issue. I've been experiencing this same battery drop issue for 2 or 3 months and the unit is well outside of warranty. Hoping there's a simpler fix, but willing to replace the battery if that will work since the tablet itself is still a great unit.
Complete factory reset should clear the Android Coulometer's data base or learning algorithm. Just clearing options of Battery Monitor Widget for rooted devices won't help. There are some other apps, which seem to help if the charge level never reaches 100%, a related, but not identical problem.
I have an old tablet suffering from this, with a tweaked custom rom, and i didn't want to clear and setup that completely. The algorithm or database is "learning" again, and the capacity jumps have become fewer and smaller over the last months. It should depend on how long the device was used and never reset before the incident. In my case over a year.
Itvs much like my cars fuel calculator, which won't work correctly during traffic light stops. Right after starting the engine, fuel consumption can raise several liters/h, when the car don't drive, as it uses the last sampled value(every 30 meters). And you need several kilometers to drive to have these levels drop to realistic ones again. While after a long driving distance, a traffic light stop will hardly have an influence.
I will start out by saying I have ALMOST tried every trick or hack or mod software related to attempt and resolve this issue.
I will let the screenshots speak for themselves.
I am starting to think there is something physically wrong with this device which is odd because when I opened it up to take the plastic cover off to expose the boards I found no evidence of any liquid intrusion at all.
Only one of the pictures is from a different charge cycle maybe a day or two after the others.
To be specific I am trying to eliminate deep sleep battery drain as much as possible. my htc one x does not drain anywhere near what this galaxy s3 does even though everything is disabled. I've tried different rom / kernel / settings / screen / leds / sync / etc.
Wondering if someone might notice something I've missed here.
thanks!
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I will start out by saying I have ALMOST tried every trick or hack or mod software related to attempt and resolve this issue.
I will let the screenshots speak for themselves.
I am starting to think there is something physically wrong with this device which is odd because when I opened it up to take the plastic cover off to expose the boards I found no evidence of any liquid intrusion at all.
Only one of the pictures is from a different charge cycle maybe a day or two after the others.
To be specific I am trying to eliminate deep sleep battery drain as much as possible. my htc one x does not drain anywhere near what this galaxy s3 does even though everything is disabled. I've tried different rom / kernel / settings / screen / leds / sync / etc.
Wondering if someone might notice something I've missed here.
thanks!
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It could be app updates. There was an update to Google drive just a couple days ago and that night after I updated it my battery died overnight when it was nearly fully charged. I cleared the app cache and data and the phone is back to normal. I've seen this happen with a few app updates lately.
Hope this helps.
It could be, and quite possibly is something like what jack man said above. But it could also have to do with the battery itself getting old. Many of these devices have been running for over 2 years now, and the batteries do go bad.
If you really think its a hardware issue though, the only way to know for sure is to flash stock firmware via Odin, factory reset with stock recovery (wipes ALL your apos and data), then test it out over a couple of full cycles without restoring any old data. If you are running anything custom, or restoring backup data, you have way to many "unknowns" to make a call on whether or not it has anything to do with hardware.
BBS is great, but unless you use and post its logs (including kernel wakelocks), it won't really tell you much more than you already know and the logs are much more helpful to us than screenshots.
Mine started doing that a couple weeks ago, for like two days the battery drained like crazy even though it was deep sleeping fine with no wake locks, 16% loss per hour ... I replaced the usb cable I was using to charge it, as it was going bad to where you couldn't touch the phone without hearing the connect/disconnect sounds cycling rapidly, bought a ventev 2.1 amp charger to replace the 0.8 I was using, and did a battery recalibration, now all is well, draining less than 1% per hour with screen off, averaging 1.5% during the day with occasional usage. And that's with the stock battery that's been in it for 18mos.
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brand new OEM battery from amazon.com - I got the phone stock w/ original battery and noticed the drain issue, first thing I did was order a new battery and flashed CM11 to see what would happen.
drain exists all across the board with this one.
I've also tried different chargers and cables, and even the charging dock on my radio.
what re-calibration method did you use?
I let it run dead till it shut itself off, charged to full while powered off, booted back up and wiped the batterystats.bin, then let it drain all the way again before going back to normal charging cycles.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445335
What is the date on the new oem battery? There are still places with "new" batteries that were actually manufactured 2 years ago. Leaving them shelved for that long they can still go bad. Probably not the caes but figured id mention it anyway.
I will check on that date. I bought an oem samsung charger from bestbuy last night to do a full charge with the phone off. I let it drain down to about 40% from idling and light usage. I've read of people getting better life after using an official charger after several charge cycles.
Ive heard that too. Definitely worth a try, though Ive always thought what matters is the output be the same, but I could be wrong. Never really looked into it.
While trying the new charger for a few cycles you should also set BBS to start monitoring and logging your wakelocks. (Dont forget to tell it to include kernel wakelocks)
This way if you are still having problems youll already have the logs we would end up asking for anyway.
will it save the logs if the phone auto shuts off due to low battery?
I think it should
looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
undivide said:
looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
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I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
Yeah I'm with you on the eBay thing. At&t maxes trade in at 55 bucks in mint condition. I have to recoup the cost of this new battery from amazon !
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I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
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Yeah I'm with you on the eBay thing. At&t maxes trade in at 55 bucks in mint condition. I have to recoup the cost of this new battery from amazon !
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As is in perfect condition unlocked $175.00 buy it now... Should work fine
Try ininstalling updates for google play services. I know ive seen it reported before, i just cant recall if that was the fix. I knoe it was simple though.
undivide said:
looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
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Can you get logs of this situation? In your previous case you had an apparent problem with Google Play Services where it would wake your phone up to 32 times per hour. That said, if you still get battery drain like that, after full wipe w/o anything waking your phone up or any wakelock then something is definitely wrong with either your battery or your device.
Iz3man said:
I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
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No BBS = no troubleshooting. From your screenshots one can see you have something keeping your phone awake, but we can't guess what it is.
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Can you get logs of this situation? In your previous case you had an apparent problem with Google Play Services where it would wake your phone up to 32 times per hour. That said, if you still get battery drain like that, after full wipe w/o anything waking your phone up or any wakelock then something is definitely wrong with either your battery or your device.
No BBS = no troubleshooting. From your screenshots one can see you have something keeping your phone awake, but we can't guess what it is.
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What is BBS?
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What is BBS?
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BetterBatteryStats. It's pretty much the number 1 tool to diagnose battery issues.
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
My battery life is also suspect.
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I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
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I was one of the Android L developer preview early adopters and the only thing that kept me from switching back to cyanogenmod was the fact that on the last developer preview whenever Flo said the battery was low I was so surprised I felt cheated. The battery life was so good every time it gave me low battery life notification I was shocked because I had forgotten that this thing even has a battery and needs to be charged.
I don't know if this is psychosomatic or what, but it sure doesn't feel like this on 5.0 or 5.01.
Full disclosure: it's reporting 6h 22m of screen on time with 5 hours of battery life left to go, but it sure doesn't feel that way.
The battery settings used to tell me ridiculous things like 6 days of charge left. It doesn't do that anymore.
Right now I'm in the process of discharging it all the way to death. We'll see if that makes a difference.
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Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Yes I'm having this issue. After upgrading via ota my tablet is dead in less than two days from battery drain
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@collin5022
OTA, OTA with factory reset or img flashing?
Because if you upgrade yours N7 via OTA without factory reset that (and various others) bugs are possible.
My N7 doesnt show idle battery drain (img flashed) or any other bug, so far im very satisfied with 5.0/5.0.1 android.
First off don't close applications this is not Microsoft windows, second use CPUspy and a wakelock detector to see what is preventing your tablet from deep sleeping, third use a system disable app like auto run manager to disable any services necessary, fourth.....profit
^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
Android 5.0.1
Default OTA 5.0.1 brings NFC active! When i turned it off, the battery became significantly more durable!
Just try it!
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^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
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If you disable the 3 common service locks keeping the device from sleeping there have been no problems so far for me on n5 or n7
And yes greenify is worthless autorun manager not so much
^Yeah I see what you're saying. But still I don't like interfering with system apps, well like play services I mean. That can cause problems and battery drain. It really depends on how you use the tablet.
Edit: And obviously like said don't be closing running/cached apps. This isn't Windows 98.
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Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Well I fixed it by flashing the unofficial cyanogen mod build for the Nexus 7. Battery life back to 4 days like I'm used to, and no idle drain.
Sent from my precious aka Nexus 7 using xda app. Any errors in the post are caused by auto correct and as such are Larry Page's fault, not mine.
I have the same issue something is keeping mine from sleeping cause its always warm. I used to get 5 days now I only get 3.
Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
Mee too I have this problem
gian90t said:
Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
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You have to root and install recocery on your device. There's a thread arnd here created by Arco for you to find the recovery files. He also provided a kernel for KitKat regarding the wakelocks if im not mistaken. So flash that kernel and like i said, recovery and root is needed.
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You may have a faulty firmware installed. Try updating to the latest one with Odin from sammobile.com.
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
znayver said:
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
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Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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tnx for your information...which that be soon suported 4.4
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
gian90t said:
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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Yes, probably the only things to do is flash a new kernel and a new rom.
But i bought only 6 months ago this f***ed Samsung, so I don't wanna loose the warranty (i love my old Galaxy Next, i could flash it how many times i wanted, because there isn't no stupid knox)
I installed the App Opp Xposed Framework, i found that Google Service uses location even if i say him to don't use it, and even if i turn off gps. So I stop him, I even stop the "keep awake" options in his menù.
But in 5-10 minutes i didn't watch any differences in battery life.
So, i risked to put off "keep awake" in "Android System" (because i watched that "android system" keep awake the phone often), and nothing it's happening now. I am charging my phone, then I will try if there's battery improvement (but i don't think)
Same issue here. Got the phone two weeks ago. Sometimes during charging it would heat up to 47C. Also is this normal battery life?
Note: Power saving is on.
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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Its a Samsung problem. People actually told me to steer clear off 4.4 update to get away from problems like this.
You guys should try the S5 ROM here.
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RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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What app is that? (1st screenshot)
ppero196 said:
What app is that? (1st screenshot)
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Battery; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macropinch.pearl
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
gian90t said:
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
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I would be better off with a custom ROM than Offcial Samsung Stock ROM. 4hrs of SOT (without WiFi) just with light browsing, gaming and some video watching
I do understand you guys don't wanna void warranty but I guess its better than buying batteries every month
Anyways, i guess some improvement for this is simply to wait for Samsung's update OR try out greenify. I believe Greenify can hibernate apps that causes the most overheating
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For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
adrokon said:
For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
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I put the S5 Proyect rom with Brisk Kernel and the problem persist.
It's not possibile was an hardware problem, because in Jeally Bean was everything fine.
But now it's really strange, sometimes the battery drain a lot, but yesterday night with the 10% i use it a lot to whatsapp before to see it shut down automatically. I don't kwow what to do
A battery isn't considered hardware by most as its a consumable; its not expected to last the lifetime of the phone.
Just because it was fine on JB you can't discount the battery cells failing. I assume you went from JB to KK, and not downgrade? If so i believe the screen zapping the battery too much causing the battery to begin failing holds true...ie, 6 months ago it was fine on JB but now its bad. Between then and now the battery has been hammered.