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Magnetic Charging Cable for Z Ultra / Z1 incompetible

http://www.netimes.com/shop/magneti...ony-xperia-z-ultra-sony-xperia-z1-p-4975.html
Can anyone verify this? If it really works with Z1? i bought one and its not charging. I use a 2.1A Innergie Plug with a 2.1Amp input which is the same current as the original charger.

When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.

Have now 4 magntic charging cables dismantled from the dock, all 4 work perfectly and grant fast charging ..........................
(If You pay cheap, you get cheap, that´s a universal rule)

ma2k5 said:
When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.
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Is dismantling the dock easy? I'm somewhat of a beginner at things like that.
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Z1 Magnetic cable
finoqq84 said:
http://www.netimes.com/shop/magneti...ony-xperia-z-ultra-sony-xperia-z1-p-4975.html
Can anyone verify this? If it really works with Z1? i bought one and its not charging. I use a 2.1A Innergie Plug with a 2.1Amp input which is the same current as the original charger.
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Got one of these a couple of weeks ago and no problems with it. Using it with the official charger and seems to charge fine. Guess I got one that was not assembled on a Friday afternoon.

there's a sony magnetic charging cable in the dk32
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ma2k5 said:
When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.
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i just want 2 ask u about z ultra that u bought
battery life comparing with note2
r u happy with it??
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Do you know if the magnetic cable works with the USB port of a laptop?

kummers said:
Do you know if the magnetic cable works with the USB port of a laptop?
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no it doesn't
and the Z Ultra Dock and Z1 dock are the same except for the slot as the phones are different thickness - I use a ZU dock with my Z1
and to the OP - the Sony original charger has the data pins shorted out to enable fast charging when the phone detects this - it is the phone that decides whether to fast charge or not based on the shorted pins

Geoffxx said:
no it doesn't
and the Z Ultra Dock and Z1 dock are the same except for the slot as the phones are different thickness - I use a ZU dock with my Z1
and to the OP - the Sony original charger has the data pins shorted out to enable fast charging when the phone detects this - it is the phone that decides whether to fast charge or not based on the shorted pins
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Thank you, what do you mean wit " the OP"?, Which is the data pin?
Other hand, do you know if the cable has any polarity?

OP = Original post
yes there is polarity - +
The USB has 4x pins/connections - + and two data pins in the middle, as the mains charger has no use for data connection they are shorted out on the charger to enable the phone to identify a charger with fast charge ability
you could have a 2.1 amp charger connected to the phone but if the data pins are not shorted out the phone will limit the charge rate at 0.5 amps or 500ma

what is your favorite fast charger for the le max 2?

Hello guys,
as the title already says I'd like to know what is your favorite charger for the Le Max 2?
Do you guys all think that the OEM charger from LeEco is the best considering the charging speed or did you find even faster solutions?
Curious for your answers!

ANY qc 3.0 charger, i suppose

miskokupuje said:
Hello guys,
as the title already says I'd like to know what is your favorite charger for the Le Max 2?
Do you guys all think that the OEM charger from LeEco is the best considering the charging speed or did you find even faster solutions?
Curious for your answers!
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Dear collegue. I am yet waiting for my X822. Maybe you could give me some information how long does it take you to fully charge your X820 from 0% and are you satisfied?
regards Olek

If the phone is off, I need about 1h30min. to full charge it when it is not in quick charge. First time I used QC and the phone heated up so that's why I know use the normall method.

For me it takes 1h20min with phone on and the capacity of the battery is correct measured with small USB tool. Fast charging is sometimes 8V and 2.5 A.
Wysłane z mojego Le X822 przy użyciu Tapatalka

got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:

DaneLaw said:
got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:
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Where you found grey version for 222$?

Schumi_wk said:
If the phone is off, I need about 1h30min. to full charge it when it is not in quick charge. First time I used QC and the phone heated up so that's why I know use the normall method.
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You are sure that the quick charge is actually off.?
when checking on mine X822 and turning the knob in setting < battery < quick charge' to not active.
it still display the same voltage and above +6v to around 9v dynamic.. (its the same when the phone is off)
its like the "quick charge off function" doesnt do anything at all. (am on stock X822 assume its 16s EUI'build)
if you got an usb-meter, try to measure if the voltage actually stays around usb 5v level when turning the quick charge off. (mine it doesnt on stock QC charger)
// digitalnasarma it was on AliE ref CB.

http://www.banggood.com/Qualcomm-Ce...ith-Power3S-Tech-p-1047935.html?rmmds=myorder - CHARGER
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-3...3ft1m-Data-Cable-p-1051395.html?rmmds=myorder - CABLE

DaneLaw said:
got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:
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Hello. Has anybody understand what this guy is writing. He always write muach but I cannot get any clue. Get off with your YZXStudio but just say how values you can achieve charging Le 2 Max with Vinsic Powerbank.

I also ordered the blitzwolf charger and cable.
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We just need a qualcomm quick charge 3 compatible charger right?

Ugreen

is the adapter which was included in the package not quick charge 3.0 ?

Digiboy2010 said:
is the adapter which was included in the package not quick charge 3.0 ?
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According to qualcomm, it is. My le max 2 shipped with charger EQ-24BUS.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
I'd like a charger for night-time charging. Does anyone know if there are ill effects by leaving your phone on quick charge for extended periods and doing so daily?
And would one risk damaging this phone by using any other 'regular' charger?

Any charger should be safe, just make sure the cable you use has Pullup resistor of 56kΩ, without that 56k chip all kinds of stuff can go wrong. usb A to usb C is a really bad setup and you'll need that chip for protection..

Thanks castuis. Best thing I learned today This (and this thread w/charger links) is good to have.

So Which charger and cable are the best for the price? Original or something else. And where to buy with shiping to EU?

https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv
This is by far the best way to buy cables and chargers. You will learn way more than you ever wanted about USB accessories.
I bought the multi pack of Orzly cables , they are the best, relatively cheap... Sturdy.... And won't burn up your phone/house.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+BensonLeung/posts/5kADUwQKhY9

Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv
This is by far the best way to buy cables and chargers. You will learn way more than you ever wanted about USB accessories.
I bought the multi pack of Orzly cables , they are the best, relatively cheap... Sturdy.... And won't burn up your phone/house.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+BensonLeung/posts/5kADUwQKhY9
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Right, but those links mostly focus on USB C standard, not QuickCharge 3.0, which I believe technically violates USB C standards. I'd still suggest sticking to cables confirmed to have the correct pull-up resistor, and if you want to use USB power delivery rather than QuickCharge technology you can also stick to chargers and power banks from that list. I think QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 will still charge faster than USB power delivery though, in which you probably won't find them on that list.
In any case, I bought an 1 port Aukey QuickCharge 3.0 car charger and it seems to work well to charge up to 4 amps. I also bought an Aukey 10000 mAh QuickCharge 2.0 power bank, and it too seems to charge my phone at up to 4 amps. Both were bought from Amazon Canada. I use them either with the cable that came with my phone or good micro USB cables and Tronsmart Micro USB to USB C adapters (which have the appropriate pull-up resistor.)

Using a non-DASH charger and non-DASH cables?

I am thinking about buying the Oneplus 3 since I haven't changed my phone in a long time. I have a few questions about the charging.
Is the DASH charge just the wall adapter? Do I need to have a DASH charge specific USB-C cable?
Can I get DASH charge with a regular USB-C cable to DASH wall charger? (I am asking this because I use long cables because of the location of my outlets and workstation, ~10-15ft)
If I charge with a basic, QuickCharge, or non-DASH wall adapter will my charge speeds be basic or does it revert to QuickCharge (with quickcharge adapter) because it is using the SD820 chip? Also the same question if I use a non-DASH powerbank (I only need a small powerbank not the big ones they are making)?
I am not sure if this should be place here or in the Accessories forum. Please let me know thanks.
Thanks for the help.

1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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Explorer23 said:
1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks

lummujaj said:
Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Oh, yeah, forgot about that, thanks for correction ?
DASH *may* have some slight software differences, but hardware is the same.
Still not a lot of choice when buying stuff, but at least a bit more.
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magistrateee said:
Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks
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Yes, DASH and VOOC will get you full charging speed, everything else will charge at standard speeds.
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lummujaj said:
Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Can anyone provide me a link for the vooc charger and the oppo cable? If i can save some money buying those, then better.
EDIT: nvm i found them on ebay.

Thanks for the help.
Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
On a side note do you know about the Oppo VOOC power bank (6000mah) since I read Oneplus is not making a DASH power bank anymore. Have you read about its DASH use or where to buy it?

magistrateee said:
Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
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Sadly I don't think this will ever exist ... OnePlus commented about cable length and they said they can't make it longer due to technical limitations (physics ...). High current = high resistance = lower max length.
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Can i use VOOC 5V-5A Charger?

Hello friends, in my country there is no Dash charger from official oneplus. but there are some oppo's vooc charger available. as far as I know vooc charger works in 1+3.
and there are two types of charger from oppo.
1. 5v-4a (same as dash charger)
2. 5v-5a
so if I use the 5v-5a charger would it harm my device? would you recommend it?
thanks in advance

Your device takes what it needs.

Demian3112 said:
Your device takes what it needs.
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so would it be able to dash charge my phone?
I meant this charger.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32683977313.html

the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger

unrated87 said:
the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger
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link edited, my apologies

Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)

otonieru said:
Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)
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any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks

ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I only have ecommerce link in my country,
You can try amazon, but you also can grab one from samsung

So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.

null0seven said:
So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.
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You read the op,
Official dash not avail in his country, else he would already bought one

But he got the phone...

ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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null0seven said:
But he got the phone...
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I bought only the phone from... think... Blackmarket with lesser price

Explorer23 said:
I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.

ShiShTuBaBu said:
yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.
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I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
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Explorer23 said:
I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
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yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.

ShiShTuBaBu said:
yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.
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This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...

null0seven said:
This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...
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I don't have any charger actually, I use my laptop to charge it which is very slow, and I don't want my laptop on for whole night. so I needed a charger badly. as there is no dash cable here I have to order it and as for now have to use the ordinary usb-c cable for the phone.

You can use any wall charger with 1a, 2a. It will not charge Fast as Dash, but faster than the laptop.

Dash Chargers and Cables

hello, guys!
I am planning to keep my op 3t for its usable life (2 years?) so these days I am looking for correct car dash charger and cable for cheap. I have already have a quick charge 3 car charger and a bunch of Samsung quick charge 3 compatible cables from my wife's galaxy s7 edge.
I have following Questions:
At what pace my qc3 car charger charge the op3t if I use a genuine cable?
do we have some cheap alternate options for Dash charger type c cable and/or car charger?
if I use a USB type c converter for my other Samsung cables, will they perform as good as op genuine cables?

I think the only way to really charge as fast as dash charge does is to use a official charger from their website, other than that charging times will be longer

I recently found a bunch of articles on non-compliance for chargers/cables/adapters, and was curious if these issues were fixed or not. I just bought a pack of 3 micro USB to USB-C adapters, and the amazon page says they include the Ohm resistors built in but I'm not sure they are safe--and won't risk damage to my house or phone over cheap adapters. Aside from the official ones, anyone have insight on good chargers with cables on Amazon or in stores? Don't mean to hijack the thread, but it seems applicable here.

I bought the cable on Amazon and it seems nearly identical, I have not compared them side by side tho, first day left oem wire (that came with phone) at work and have my dash charger at home, about 60 min charge for the day is great.
So the wire I bought from Amazon seems to work perfectly fine and on point with official 1+ outlet dash charger... It was like 13.50 or something.

Well you can check that dash charge works on different cable, when you charge by it you should have Blue led + dash charge info at the bottom of the lock screen
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Is the only source for real Dash cables OP directly?

donalgodon said:
Is the only source for real Dash cables OP directly?
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First I thought that it is, but isn't. Since the OEM Dash cable was a bit too expensive for me, I tried this one https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B074H6MGZH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
To be honest, I was only looking for a cable that looks like the OEM one because I was 99% sure that I wouln't get the Dash charge capability for the 10 € that I paid.
Turns out better than I thought and got a bonus. Looks and feels like the OEM and supports Dash charge.
Best Regards, Talpes