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Love this phone, BUT...

I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.

My battery life is great. A full day of use with no charge.

skynet99 said:
I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.
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same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
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yep battery life could be better but that's why I have my "slim" 2100mah on the way. I do wonder about the camera though. I am very experienced at photography and even though
I steady all of my shots they still come out grainy and looking like the ISO has been jacked up. I almost feel as if I took better shots with my thunderbolt.
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The battery life is pretty crap. I hope the upgraded battery lasts more than 4 hours of constant use. :|

mike2518 said:
same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Remember that it doesn't charge to 100%; it's likely that it fell almost immediately to 97-96% right when you unplugged it.
Besides, 30 minutes isn't enough time to give you a real feel for how the battery is going to last you.

I agree on the camera. Even my HTC Legend takes better pictures. Only a tiny bit of movement makes the pictures unusable. Crap! Hope they improve that in future updates.

Everything you listed appears to be solvable via an ICS update from Google, except maybe for the battery life.
The only thing that concerns me on your list is the speakerphone volume. If the speaker itself is fully capable hardware wise, then a software update hopefully should achieve louder audio, unless the speaker is just crap. I use speakerphone a lot so thanks for bringing this to my attention, something I wouldn't have thought to test out in the store.
Everything else on your list is not a big deal, it will get fixed. Thats the benefit of Nexus.

Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.

I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.

skynet99 said:
Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.
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Yea, i noticed this as well, the accelerometer is very slow on this phone. The transitions themselves are very fluid, but it does take an exuberant amount of time. Meh, software bugs i guess, it'll get ironed out in the end.
Super Chimp said:
I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.
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Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.

The orientation change isn't a bug, its set at whatever time-lag the development team set it too. If you run a CPU meter in your task bar, the thing doesn't even jump when you rotate. The time-lag is set to a delay time to reduce battery drain for common motions like passing it to a friend or shifting around in bed watching videos. It would be nice to be adjustable, but its set to what it is... like 2-3 seconds. However, I'm sure the orientation code is probably on a low/medium priority thread so some times it could take 3-4 seconds based on background processes. <shrug>
I think orientation speed is nothing to complain about. As long as my home screen swipe without lag and the app drawer opens without gitters, I'm a happy camper!

slowhatch said:
Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.
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From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?

I miss my Thunderbolt...
I read something interesting on another post referring to the LTE Galaxy Nexus. "If you don't get it - don't get it." Those words have echoed in my head as I have been trying to like the GN. Am I deficient in my understanding of the platform and developer orientation. Or is there something fundamentally wrong that I should expect these issues being on the front edge of the 4.0 wave? regardless, my rooted Thunderbolt was awesome! My rooted, unlocked bootloader GN has been somewhat disappointing for many of the reasons mentioned here plus many of the software I used on the Tbolt don't support ICS yet so I lost functionality big time. I am on the verge of assigning my GN to a secondary line and putting my Tbolt back to daily use until GN is solid.

Arent these the types of things one can "assume" will come up when getting a phone like this? It's got a brand new flavor of android. No one troubleshoots, tests like the people over at Apple. I've come to expect things like this. Even with Apple at times. The bugs arent quite squashed yet.

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From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?
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im not rooted and it works perfect.

[Reviews] Oppo N3 Review Thread

Oppo N3 Review Thread​
Hey all
This thread is to collect the available reviews for the Oppo N3 into one place. Feel free to post reviews found on the web or when the device becomes available create your own:good: If anybody feels one should be added to the OP, please PM me. I'll kick off with a few i found on the net:highfive:​
Reviews/Previews
http://www.stuff.tv/oppo/oppo-n3/review
Stuff.tv Hands-on/Preview
http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/oppo-n3/
CNET - Hands-on​
Video Reviews/Previews
Android Authority - First Look​

Good And uPDATE
So Nice i See Specification .But Cost Some High

Review Quick and Dirty
Bought it today after comparing it with Mate 7 and here is my quick and dirty review:
Plus
+ very impressed by the motorised camera
use of o click: can control manually in small increments, on screen or through the o click;
+ sound quality and volume;
+ extremely fast camera focusing and shot to shot speed;
+ finger print scanner is good once i've figured out how to use it (and this coming from a person whose corporate finger print scanner cannot read mine...)
+ despite the weight of 192 g, it feels solid instead of heavy
+ without using the VOOC charger, charging speed is snail like; with the VOOC, it is really fast
+ O click pairs quickly and works very well (as compared to the previous version)
+ ps. heard from some reviewers that the camera head is loose but mine feels satisfactory. Some also mentioned about the rattling from the loose volume button, but mine seems fine too. Heng ah.
+ despite the many complaints about the faux leather over the camera/ear piece, after using it, I think i like this choice as it makes long conversation where I place my ear tightly next to the ear piece more comfortable. In short, it looks like a misfit, but it feels good when used.
+ Oh i love the gesture functions esppppppppppppppppp the double tap to wake, 3 fingers to screenshot
Minus
- crazy location of ear phone jack (though, fortunately, I use wireless earphones, so it is irrelevant.)
- coming from Note 4, somehow this screen looks small, although both are 5.5 inches
- mass storage option is gone (previously oppo had it right?)
- auto brightness is too aggressively dim indoors
In all, i think it is an excellent phone. However, at this price point, I don't think it'll move many pieces.
As compared to Mate 7, I think where Mate 7 trumps N3 is its screen to fascia ratio since Mate 7 doesn't have a rotating camera and uses on screen keyboard. However, i found mate 7 to be a tad unwieldy and the speaker to be too 'thin'/too shrill.

Largely agree with the above.
The good:
The phone is overpriced. I pre-ordered from OppoStyle and got a free VOOC battery pack, 32GB SD Card, and an iLike case for it, so the price of £430 actually felt ok, but without those freebies I'd feel a little bit ripped off, and that offer is gone now.
The camera is fabulous, only taken one selfie with it so far which was after a 4 day long course and 140 mile drive home, no makeup and really tired, but still somehow made me look good: http://lum.uk/temp/IMG20150122211859.jpg
The shutter speed on the camera is really fast too, so great for taking cat photos. http://www.imgur.com/p5dwFqR.jpeg
Dual-SIM on a flagship phone is wonderful. Work have me using a Blackberry Curve with a data bar on it and only Blackberry services allowed, so I've never been able to shove my work SIM into an Android and still get email before. Words cannot express how much I hate that Blackberry but I can't even dial on it without either using a pen to poke the keys, or end upbreaking a nail.
Color OS is actually surprisingly nice. This is the first Android I've owned where I haven't felt the need to immediately rip out the entire OS and replace it with Cyanogen or AOKP (My previous androids were an HTC Desire Z and a Motorola Droid 4). I've still had to replace the launcher with Nova Launcher though.
VOOC charging is really clever. I read a bit about how it works, the phone basically has 3 batteries and charges them at 1.5A each, so it's not going to kill the battery too fast. I really don't mind that a standard charge is slow. I charge it overnight at 2.1A from a USB mains socket by my bed, so that'll be 0.7A per battery which is going to make it really nice to the batteries longevity.
Battery life is superb. Even during a day of heavy use, my second day of owning the phone, including much tinkering, gaming and also using a lot of data in the doctor's waiting room, it was only down to 40% by midnight.
The "Skyline" notification light is actually quite good in these days of LEDs that are far too bright, however whenever I see the name I always think of a Nissan, not a fancy LED.
An SD card slot on a high end phone released in 2015!
The downsides:
The dual-SIM layout is slightly odd. It takes a micro SIM as its primary and a nano SIM as the secondary. 4G is only available on the micro SIM, not the nano!. This strikes me as an odd decision as nano SIMs are more likely to be 4G capable, and to be the primary SIM for the phone, with the larger SIM being from a crappy company phone. Fortunately for me my girlfriend is very good with a craft knife and the Blackberry SIM is now a perfectly good nano SIM. I guess some folk would rather use up their works data allowance for everything and then stick in a personal nano SIM for calls.
The position of the power button is annoying. I keep grabbing it and locking my phone when I want to just hold the phone. I wonder if there's a way to make that button unlock only, not lock, as I can lock it by either closing the case or double tapping the home button.
Opening task manager by doing a long press on menu, rather than home, takes a little bit of getting used to.
The Oppo widgets only work on their own launcher. I had to install Google Calendar to get a working calendar widget, which then left me with two calendar entries in the app drawer.
There is still a little bit of bloat to be removed. Google Chrome should not be baked into a ROM as it's 80mb and is almost invariably out of date when the phone ships, plus I use Firefox anyway, also the above mentioned oppo calendar.
There's a hidden app with the name still in Chinese that had me nervous at first as I had no idea what it did. Turns out it's EngineeringMode.apk and is triggered by *#*#4636#*#* and has a few things to tinker with, but use with caution.
No kernel source code available, no fastboot files available. This is especially annoying given that the OTAs failed for me.
Most information about the phone, and about ColorOS is only available in Chinese.
Non-removable battery.
SD card can't be used at the same time as a second SIM. I wonder if careful shaving of both cards could get around this, but unwilling to try it as getting a card stuck in that slider would basically ruin the phone.
The SIM slider can be completely removed and if you lose it you have a £430 tiny overpriced tablet!
All in all I'm quite happy with my purchase. I'm not sure it'll do that well as the phone doesn't know what it wants to be. The dual-SIM thing is great for business people, but the selfie camera is obviously targeted at young women, yet the size is likely too big and they're competing with Samsung who actually have physical shops in the UK. They're also doing zero marketing. For me it is (almost) the perfect phone*, but I'm weird and have multiple often contradictory requirements. I love it but not sure I'd recommend it to anyone else.
* for it to be perfect it would have to have a 5-row QWERTY slider. This is my first non-QWERTY phone and I'm struggling with typing having come from a Droid 4. Guess I need to look for an external keyboard.

so far battery life seems to be as good as my note 4.
very happy with the phone so far but knowing me, soon, i will revert to note 4 cos i like the pen.
the motorised camera is quite amazing.
my main gripe is i wish the finger print scanner were as big as the huawei one.
Comparing with Note 4
Note 4 over N3
- generally faster esp with file copying
- slimmer
- feels better in the hand
- a more sensible headphone jack
- better screen
- better auto brightness
- Spen!!!!
- GPS is better
- more RAM
N3 over Note 4
- faster camera
- more wow factor with the camera module
- much better mono speaker
- better finger print scanner
- colorOS is a more user friendly OS than touchwiz
- can be dual sim (not checked whether it is dual standby though)
- lower price point plus got freebies
- gestures are great!!
- fast charging is quite phenomenal
The placement of the monospeaker is particularly smart. It is at the bottom but more importantly, because of the skylight notification portion, the speaker is not the last part of the phone. This is important because for phones with bottom-mounted speakers, when i play games and hold the bottom, my palm covers the speaker. Additionally, when the phone is placed on the table, with the skylight bulge and the table flanking the speaker, there is a lot of resonance, making the speaker pretty loud!! At the same time, on speaker phone mode, i can cup my palm over the bottom to increase the volume. In all, this is the best implementation of bottom speaker.

what do you mean by "dual standby"? I have two SIMs in there, so I'll test it for you.

i suppose to find out whether both lines can be called through or whether only one can be used (despite there being two sims in the phone).
Lum_UK said:
what do you mean by "dual standby"? I have two SIMs in there, so I'll test it for you.
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both sims work at the same time
inertiaholic said:
i suppose to find out whether both lines can be called through or whether only one can be used (despite there being two sims in the phone).
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you can receive calls or texts on both sims at the same time....the sim settings are also great...you can set it to default reply so that if someone texts or calls you on sim1 the phone will default reply on sim1....also when you go to make a call or send a text there is an option for both sims you just press the one your using

Review by Music.Photo.Life.
I'm happy to share my review of the OPPO N3 here.
http://musicphotolife.blogspot.sg/2015/04/oppo-n3-swivel-camera-smartphone-review.html
Thanks for reading!

A Few Days In.. Thoughts So Far..

Hi,
Finally got my 7t on Sunday after some Amazon delays and thought I would put down some thoughts to see if others share my view of its good and bad points. I have migrated to the 7t from a Galaxy S9+ so some of the comparisons are with that as I've had it for the last 18 months.
Overall I am very pleased, construction is good, 90hz display is lovely and its snappy and smooth. I havent extensively used the camera but everything seems to work and I like the OxygenOS implementation of Android 10 however I am finding that some apps are a little behind and dont work to well. Good size, good weight and weirdly almost identical in dimensions to the S9+.
The notch hasnt been an issue and only on third charge but battery life for my useage is very good. Sound is much louder than my S9+ although not sure about better, its on par though which is fine with me.
I do have some niggle points though which maybe updated in the future and maybe its just me but would appreciate your views.
1) Haptic engine is nowhere near as strong as the S9+ and I miss the decent buzz of the vibrations on the keyboard and the feedback
2) Adaptive brightness goes too dim at night, this might just be me and my eyes but I can hardly read the screen in total darkness due to how low it goes and I have had to use Macdroid to take adaptive brightness off at night and set it to 20% so I can see the screen
3) Coming from a headphone jack I've realised cheap USB-C to 3.5mm dongles are nowhere near as good as the faithful jack. It's a shame it had to disappear.
4) Really wanted to use and try the stock launcher as I normally use Nova but the stock launcher wont go 6 icons wide, only 5. I think Nova is a little behind in Android 10 as transitions can be a little choppy but we all have our favourite homescreen setups right? and mine has to be 6 icons across.
5) Have tried using my current charging stuff and it charges the phone much slower even though my chargers are QC3.0 and cables are good. Still testing but a little disappointed that you will have to use their cables for full speed charging.
6) Really missing the notification LED and there seems to be no proper solution whereby you can keep the ambient display on and have a flashing LED style indicator so you dont have to keep tapping your phone screen
Think thats all for now. Happy to hear your thoughts but I'm all in all a happy customer. Glad I made the switch.
Thanks for reading

This is such a mature review compared to others I've read on the forums. You mention the pain points but don't go about berating OnePlus mindlessly. :good:
Anyways, I agree with most of them. Here are my thoughts:
claytow said:
1) Haptic engine is nowhere near as strong as the S9+ and I miss the decent buzz of the vibrations on the keyboard and the feedback
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Agreed. It's not as strong as other devices. But honestly I prefer it this way.
claytow said:
2) Adaptive brightness goes too dim at night, this might just be me and my eyes but I can hardly read the screen in total darkness due to how low it goes and I have had to use Macdroid to take adaptive brightness off at night and set it to 20% so I can see the screen
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Read the same feedback on OnePlus forums, so it's not just you or your eyes. I've always preferred adjusting brightness manually, so have turned it off.
Btw, MacroDroid rocks \m/
claytow said:
4) Really wanted to use and try the stock launcher as I normally use Nova but the stock launcher wont go 6 icons wide, only 5. I think Nova is a little behind in Android 10 as transitions can be a little choppy but we all have our favourite homescreen setups right? and mine has to be 6 icons across.
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I don't mind the homescreen width, but the app drawer on the stock launcher lacks the option of creating folders. Nova to the rescue again!
claytow said:
5) Have tried using my current charging stuff and it charges the phone much slower even though my chargers are QC3.0 and cables are good. Still testing but a little disappointed that you will have to use their cables for full speed charging.
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I think the adapter is more important than the cable for Warp charge. I believe you can get warp charge with OnePlus adapter and another cable.
claytow said:
6) Really missing the notification LED and there seems to be no proper solution whereby you can keep the ambient display on and have a flashing LED style indicator so you dont have to keep tapping your phone screen
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This is what I miss the most. I have grown accustomed to the notification LED, and now it bugs me to not have it anymore.
I tried a few apps but none works the way I want them to. Still would recommend you to try "Always on Edge" as it offers many customization options and there's a lightning style called LEP which replicates the flashing LED.
If you happen to come across an app that does a better job, do let me know

Thanks enfilade,
Currently I have settled on Notify Buddy although I will try "Always on Edge" if I get tired of it. Notify Buddy seems to work pretty well, there is one thing that doesnt work correctly but has an easy workaround.
I find it works very well but you cant single tap the screen to wake while there is a notification as it uses the overlay. However you can double tap which wakes the screen and then you can use face unlock or the fingerprint. The fingerprint works fine with no notifications. This result while not perfect isnt the end of the world.
As I say though, will try Always on edge if I cant make this work long term. It would be great if OnePlus could make it an inbuilt OxygenOS facility.

Thanks enfilade,
Currently I have settled on Notify Buddy although I will try "Always on Edge" if I get tired of it. Notify Buddy seems to work pretty well, there is one thing that doesnt work correctly but has an easy workaround.
I find it works very well but you cant single tap the screen to wake while there is a notification as it uses the overlay. However you can double tap which wakes the screen and then you can use face unlock or the fingerprint. The fingerprint works fine with no notifications. This result while not perfect isnt the end of the world.
As I say though, will try Always on edge if I cant make this work long term. It would be great if OnePlus could make it an inbuilt OxygenOS facility.

I checked out NotifyBuddy. It does a good job but it lacks the option of displayed LED for charging/fully charged, which I'm looking for.
"Always on Edge" has that option but I am not completely satisfied as I also want the experience to not conflict with the Ambient display. Btw, it has multiple options for how you want to wake up, including long press and slide, so that might give you better option. Also it handles power button press in a better way.
But you need to watch an ad every time you want to save any changes you made in settings, so that's irritating, but once it's set, no ads interference in the experience.

enfilade said:
I checked out NotifyBuddy. It does a good job but it lacks the option of displayed LED for charging/fully charged, which I'm looking for.
"Always on Edge" has that option but I am not completely satisfied as I also want the experience to not conflict with the Ambient display. Btw, it has multiple options for how you want to wake up, including long press and slide, so that might give you better option. Also it handles power button press in a better way.
But you need to watch an ad every time you want to save any changes you made in settings, so that's irritating, but once it's set, no ads interference in the experience.
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Have had a good play and not 100% sure how I can do what I want, have got it so I get icons for notifications with no flashing dot and a flashing dot while charging but its taken lots of testing and messing about. Ended up paying for it, after all its only £1.29. Happy to have any pointers or config secrets you have found to make it work properly. Thanks for the tip on what to try though.

I wish it was just a little smaller... like 10mm shorter I'd say... oh well...

claytow said:
5) Have tried using my current charging stuff and it charges the phone much slower even though my chargers are QC3.0 and cables are good. Still testing but a little disappointed that you will have to use their cables for full speed charging.
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It's mostly due to wire gauge, which 6A should probably make the cable run hot and maybe pop (which has happened to me in other scenarios)

claytow said:
Have had a good play and not 100% sure how I can do what I want, have got it so I get icons for notifications with no flashing dot and a flashing dot while charging but its taken lots of testing and messing about. Ended up paying for it, after all its only £1.29. Happy to have any pointers or config secrets you have found to make it work properly. Thanks for the tip on what to try though.
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I haven't been able to get it to work the "ideal" way, where I get the notification dot and the ambient display experience is not impacted. So not much I can share. In fact I didn't even know I could set flashing dot based on the scenario, so thanks for that!

enfilade said:
I haven't been able to get it to work the "ideal" way, where I get the notification dot and the ambient display experience is not impacted. So not much I can share. In fact I didn't even know I could set flashing dot based on the scenario, so thanks for that!
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Well looks like I didnt do too well either, ran it overnight and it looks like it completely disregarded the Do not disturb times and displayed every notification overnight and used 38% of my battery. So not sure why it still displayed but looks like back to the drawing board.

Is it me or is battery life not that great?
44 minutes of SOT and down to 82%. Feels like my 6t and my XR would have more juice at this point...

pbassjunk said:
Is it me or is battery life not that great?
44 minutes of SOT and down to 82%. Feels like my 6t and my XR would have more juice at this point...
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I agree with you on this. I'm going to try to turn off 90mhz and see how it works after that

pbassjunk said:
Is it me or is battery life not that great?
44 minutes of SOT and down to 82%. Feels like my 6t and my XR would have more juice at this point...
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Agree. Active drain is alright with me, but standby drain is the biggest problem..

I have no problem with battery. I've got usually about 7-8 hours of SOT in 2 labor day.
My scenario: 3 google account syncing, 1 vpn mailing app syncing, bluetooth and GPS are on, no Wi-Fi coverage during 8 hour at work so I'm using there only LTE. Also I'm using a MiFit app that is syncing in the background all my notification and sending them to my smartwatch. That's all, but I'm not a gamer, I'm using a smartphone to browsing, mailing, chatting and calling. During a discharge cycle I do also an 1 hour video session on Youtube.
I'm really glad with the battery life.

Coming from a pixel 4, this phone is amazing.
The camera is way better than reviews give it credit for. Storage is blazing fast and I can actually mount my USB drive (and files copy over super fast). Battery charging is fantastic, display is brighter and nicer. The phone feels great in the hand.
I can't find one thing I don't like so far.

ChongoDroid said:
Coming from a pixel 4, this phone is amazing.
The camera is way better than reviews give it credit for. Storage is blazing fast and I can actually mount my USB drive (and files copy over super fast). Battery charging is fantastic, display is brighter and nicer. The phone feels great in the hand.
I can't find one thing I don't like so far.
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How does screen quality and phone speed/snappiness compare to pixel 4

Cowbell_Guy said:
How does screen quality and phone speed/snappiness compare to pixel 4
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The pixel 4 looked good but my specific model had some bad screen light leak. The OnePlus 7t is brighter and more vibrant, the animations are more pronounced since the screen is bigger. Also it's only comparable when the pixel has 90hz forced in developer settings.

claytow said:
Hi,
2) Adaptive brightness goes too dim at night, this might just be me and my eyes but I can hardly read the screen in total darkness due to how low it goes and I have had to use Macdroid to take adaptive brightness off at night and set it to 20% so I can see the screen
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Hi, could you share your settings please?
I set it to turn off adaptive brightness at 4pm and set brightness to 40%
and
Turn adaptive brightness back on at 7am
It doesn't seem to be working - I have them both turned on.
Is this how you did it? thanks, alex

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Hi, could you share your settings please?
I set it to turn off adaptive brightness at 4pm and set brightness to 40%
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Turn adaptive brightness back on at 7am
It doesn't seem to be working - I have them both turned on.
Is this how you did it? thanks, alex
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Hopefully if I did it correct, the simple macro I did which works every day.

thanks claytow, i'll check it in the morning

First Impressions of XIAOMI Mi Mix 3

I picked up a XIAOMI Mi Mix 3 from Micro Center today at what I consider a steal considering the hardware (USD $379.98) and after doing some quick research.
Micro Center is a two-and-a-half-hour drive for me and I was already there, so I didn't have the luxury of time for leisurely research. I usually spend weeks, not half an hour, making these decisions. But I used to be a commercial customer before I sold my business, and I made a lot of friends there, so they don't hassle me about returns; and since I was already there, I figured I'd try it out.
My initial impressions are mixed, but more positive than negative.
Positives
The build quality feels very solid. Actually, it feels like a Sherman tank. This is a pretty hefty phone. It has a quality "feel" to it, though. I also like the flat screen, although I guess that's a matter of personal preference. The included case is okay for now, but I ordered a more rugged one, a screen protector, and a leather holster from Amazon. I'm old, but active; and I don't carry a purse.
Functionally, the XIAOMI Mi Mix 3 supports AT&T's network 100 percent, as far as I can tell. That seems pretty amazing for a phone that technically isn't sold in the USA. I've had phones that were targeted to the U.S. market that had mediocre band and protocol support.
The radio reception is also the best of any phone I've ever used where I live, and I've been on AT&T for a long time and used a lot of phones. The LTE works great. I'm getting download speeds of around 50 Mbps, and I live in the boondocks.
The GPS reception is especially incredible, with TTFF of an amazing four seconds, two meter accuracy in 16 seconds, an average C/N0 around 46 dBHz using 32 of the 35 satellites it caught, with some coming in at 59 dBHz. That's pretty amazing for a phone. It's actually better than some airplanes I've flown.
I didn't mess with the cameras much (I don't really use them that often on any phone), but they seem very good to me. I break out my Nikon when I have serious photography to do, so I may not be the best judge of mobile phone quality. The cameras on the Mi Mix 3 seem perfectly adequate to me; but as I said, I'm no connoisseur of cell phone cameras.
The slider for the selfie camera is a nice feature if you hate the notch. I never cared about the notch, but it does bother some people. I also like that the slider stays in place magnetically (more reliable and durable than mechanical latches), although I do wonder whether that affects the magnetometer (assuming the phone has one).
In short, hardware-wise, I'm happy. The Snapdragon 845 is no slouch, and the rest of the hardware in the Mi Mix 3 seems to use it well. I consider it a bargain for the hardware alone.
In terms of performance, it's fast and crisp. I haven't put it through any strenuous tests yet, but It has a nice, fast feel to it.
Setup was completely painless, it auto-provisioned on AT&T with zero configuration needed, and Google and MIUI restored almost everything from Drive with no issues. Even my DND settings were carried over. It was really pretty flawless. The one exception was K-9 Mail. For reasons I neither know nor intend to bother looking into, neither the app itself nor the settings were migrated. I had made backups of everything anyway, so it was no big deal.
Negatives
I wouldn't say that MIUI is quirky so much as that I wonder what the point was of changing things around for no apparent reason. In other words, I don't think there's anything "wrong" with MIUI based on the few hours I've had the phone, but I wonder what advantage there is to it as compared to a stock Android. I can live with it, though. It's not so much a negative as a "just different," really, based on first impressions.
I also don't like the fact that there's no automated desktop backup software. I suppose I can build something easily enough, but there should be desktop backup. Or am I the only one who actually uses a computer anymore? I guess LG's [usually] competent backup software spoiled me.
I'll see if there's a generic Android backup utility out there for Arch Linux or Windows that syncs by WiFi before re-inventing the wheel. It's not rocket surgery; but coding for the sheer joy of coding kind of grew old for me decades ago. I never bothered looking for generic non-root Android automated backup software before because I never had to. There probably are bazillions of perfectly competent solutions out there for Arch (or for Android itself, for that matter).
In fairness, however, I'm a genuine backup nut. I literally have backups of my backups as far as computers are concerned. Within 20 seconds of my saving a document, it has been backed up to an ioSafe USB drive and a local NAS (the ioSafe, which is a backup destination, is in turned backed up to the NAS), and is on its way to BackBlaze. So my OCD about backups may be inflating my annoyance about not including a desktop backup application with the handset.
Back to the Mix 3, I also found the notifications a bit wonky. In addition to having to give permission in multiple places, the notifications use the media volume instead of having their own setting. That doesn't make much sense to me. I can think of plenty of reasons why one might want to control notifications separately from media. The puzzlement, however, is why they coded it out of stock Android. I mean, what advantage is there to justify the time spent removing a slider that was already there?
Then again, maybe the separate notification volume was an LG thing. My last few phones have been LG. Maybe LG coded it into Android.
There's also somewhat more bloatware than I'm accustomed to finding on an unlocked phone, but it seems lightweight and innocuous enough. Some of it might actually be useful. I really haven't done anything to it except push it to the last screen. At least it doesn't include a crap ton of silly games and such.
The only one that annoys me is that I can't uninstall FecesBook (at least not without root). At least, not in the usual way. I can't explain why because of NDA's I've signed, but I'd rather never use a computing device again than have a FecesBook account.
All Things Considered...
I officially have two weeks to decide whether to keep the phone. Micro Center probably would extend that for me because of my long history with them, but I don't want to abuse that relationship. Besides, to weeks will be enough to decide whether my appreciation of the Mix 3's superb (in my opinion) hardware compensates for my lukewarmness toward MIUI.
Based on first impressions, however, I'm pretty sure I will keep the phone. I love the hardware, and I think I can at least learn to live with MIUI (which is more than I can say about my ex, and she was a lot more expensive and quirky than MIUI is). Or I can root it, although that's not something I'd do just because I'm miffed about having to look somewhere else for a setting and having an inactive FecesBook icon hidden in a folder on the last screen.
Richard

You can disable unwanted apps using miui hidden settings app from post store.

crabamer said:
You can disable unwanted apps using miui hidden settings app from post store.
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Thank you. That worked!
Richard

Well, the phone and I didn't make it through the weekend. It seemed like every time I figured out one problem, another surfaced.
The deal-killer, however, was the sound quality the first time I made an actual phone call. In all seriousness, I got better sound out of tin-can telephones made of two soup cans and a piece of string when I was a kid. It was the absolute worst, almost inaudible sound quality I've ever experienced on any communication device.
So I looked up the problem on their forum, and one piece of advice was to factory-reset the phone after an update that I just got last night. So I did that, and it rejected my password when it rebooted. When I tried to do a password reset on the site (three times), I got no response to the email. And when I tried to check it using the phone number, I got an error message that the account didn't exist.
It's a shame, too, because other than the sound quality, I loved the hardware of the phone. But not being able to hear a phone call makes it useless to me.
Oh, well. Ten hours of driving and a tank and a half of gas isn't the worst thing I've ever been through.
On the bright side, when I swapped the SIM back into the phone the Mix 3 would have been replacing, I decided to put a new spare battery in it, too, and charge it on the way to Micro Center. Lo and behold, it didn't overheat. So maybe it was the battery, rather than the phone, that was having a problem. I'll check it out further this week.
Richard

Unlock your bootloader then install AOSP based rom, like Resurrection Remix, all problem solved.
Or if you want to stick with MIUI, try EU rom, no bloatware, no Chinese stuff.

GVN.Gallus said:
Unlock your bootloader then install AOSP based rom, like Resurrection Remix, all problem solved.
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You may be right, but how would that have solved the earpiece problem? That seems like a hardware issue to me. If I held the phone sideways like a wing sticking out of the side of my head, I could hear it. But it was still so scratchy and tinny that I can't imaging listening to it on every phone call. Also, it's not the most convenient way to use a phone. I'm old. I still make phone calls.
It's all academic at this point since I returned the phone. But I'm still interested in the answer just for its own sake. Would an alternate ROM have improved the sound volume and quality? If so, then I regret my hastiness because all in all, I loved the hardware -- except for the earpiece.
Thanks,
Richard

GeekOnTheHill said:
You may be right, but how would that have solved the earpiece problem? That seems like a hardware issue to me. If I held the phone sideways like a wing sticking out of the side of my head, I could hear it. But it was still so scratchy and tinny that I can't imaging listening to it on every phone call. Also, it's not the most convenient way to use a phone. I'm old. I still make phone calls.
It's all academic at this point since I returned the phone. But I'm still interested in the answer just for its own sake. Would an alternate ROM have improved the sound volume and quality? If so, then I regret my hastiness because all in all, I loved the hardware -- except for the earpiece.
Thanks,
Richard
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Maybe your earpiece speaker had been covered by dust or plastic? The real earpiece is under the screen, you can see it when slide screen down, you can try that and make phonecall to test the sound.
I have no problem with earpiece sound and as far as i known, no one ever complain about it.
And yes custom rom and modder can change the sound quality, there even a mod to turn earpiece speaker into loudspeaker so we had dual rocker.

GVN.Gallus said:
Maybe your earpiece speaker had been covered by dust or plastic? The real earpiece is under the screen, you can see it when slide screen down, you can try that and make phonecall to test the sound.
I have no problem with earpiece sound and as far as i known, no one ever complain about it.
And yes custom rom and modder can change the sound quality, there even a mod to turn earpiece speaker into loudspeaker so we had dual rocker.
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Thank you. And yes, I did check for plastic when I tried the selfie cam, and I did try making a phone call with the display slid down. It made almost no difference. It was very slightly louder, but no less scratchy and tinny.
Can you please point me to a custom ROM for this phone? I really liked the hardware. If there's a custom ROM that supports everything reasonably well, I might just buy another one and check it out. It just seemed like a hardware issue to me. And maybe it was. It could be that this one particular device had a defect.
Thanks,
Richard

GeekOnTheHill said:
Thank you. And yes, I did check for plastic when I tried the selfie cam, and I did try making a phone call with the display slid down. It made almost no difference. It was very slightly louder, but no less scratchy and tinny.
Can you please point me to a custom ROM for this phone? I really liked the hardware. If there's a custom ROM that supports everything reasonably well, I might just buy another one and check it out. It just seemed like a hardware issue to me. And maybe it was. It could be that this one particular device had a defect.
Thanks,
Richard
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You can find and try some custom rom in THIS SECTION that suitable your need, personally i recommend Resurrection Remix.

GVN.Gallus said:
You can find and try some custom rom in THIS SECTION that suitable your need, personally i recommend Resurrection Remix.
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Thank you. I'll check it out. Maybe I acted too hastily.
My reason for buying the Mix 3 in the first place was for a daily driver to replace an aging V20 that has at least one known problem (tired GPS radios) and that I thought was overheating (but which now appears to have had a faulty battery). I didn't buy the Mix 3 as a project phone. I needed a phone to actually use starting today (Monday). I planned to buy something else while I was at Micro Center to return it.
However, because the v20 didn't overheat with a fresh spare battery that I charged during the trip, and because I have another V20 that I use for GPS-dependent apps, I'm not up against a time deadline any more. I like the Mix 3's hardware enough that I may buy another as a project phone.
Thanks again,
Richard

Toggle the loudspeaker setting on and off when you're on the first call after a reboot. Interesting to know this is a Xiaomi bug, not a Xiaomi.eu bug. Once you've done the toggle trick it'll be fine until you reboot again.
As for roms, if you're rooting, having tried several of the AOSP-based roms I'd recommend Xiaomi.eu, everything will work (including the slider & associated settings), it'll be marginally faster (and it's already fast on AOSP), it'll have marginally better battery life, and it won't randomly reboot or go into a reboot loop when charging wirelessly.

I just ordered a OnePlus 7t as a DD, so I have to wait at least a few weeks before buying another Mix 3 lest the old lady kill me. She just doesn't get it...
I do wish I'd known about the bug and the fix you mentioned because it was actually painful to return the Mix 3, so much did I like the hardware.

Question On display camera.

Can anyone explain how this is a feature? I mean it doesn't bother me. But the more I think about it . The less it feels like a feature. And more it feels like something fishy. I don't know enough about stuff to understand access to data under a proprietary feature. But at the bare minimum I've never thought you know what this phone needs is that small crappy front facing camera to be in the display . I think I prefer it not there at all since the phone opens the back camera is sufficient for both. End of the day I believe this will be my last samsung. I hate the front screen and inside screen is cool and impressive but still kinda annoying. In my mind these devices should come with all the quirks ironed out. I still enjoy my note 3 rooted as much if not more. And the note 20 ultra was a solid device but wasn't a big upgrade from my 10+. Bare minimum samsung not including accessories is just lame. I would have probably made the closed screen slightly larger for easier use on the go and then the use on the inside screen for less often use in casual settings.
Just my thoughts a month in and was curious to hear others thoughts. I know it's probably and amazing device for someone who doesn't upgrade frequently but as someone who does it was probably the device that has ended my desire for new and cool over tested and true. .
Anyone stumble across any lesser known features or functions that aren't well known?
Customization wise:
I use wavelet and my bose in car sounds amazing.
And have good lock/nice lock until hex is functional again.
Ad block
and system ui tuner that doesn't seem to be adding much
and I tried to see if I could use adb and 3c but it doesn't seem to improve much or increase any functional use but I just had it long ago and thought I'd see if it was useful
The latest update has improved my mobile service in rural areas near by sprint on tmobile experience
I haven't debloated because honestly the device probably wouldn't improve much with less and I'm kinda waiting to understand what all is needed until my account is fully tmobile. I assume nothing they have changes much but since it can't currently be unlocked on tmobile side I'm curious to how it's locked since it's not supposed to be sprint sim compatible. But still has the sprint unlock uicdd on device hidden with tmobile unlock visible. I also hope someone comes out with a case that has a tiny bluetooth keyboard , I think that would be kinda cool.

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I know that for everyone, no device is perfect. As much as I LOVE this Fold 3, it's not perfect, but it's about as close as a mobile device has come for me. Then again, I know that I am also an edge-case as I use my Fold 3 in a way that most others do not. I use it as a Mobile Office. I call it my 3-pocket-laptop (look on YT for a video titled 4 pocket laptop to see what I am getting at).
I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
So yeah, I get why it may not work for you, but for me, I love it.

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I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
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Pics please! I've seen the Mr Mobile video you're referring to, that was a fantastic idea!

Talderon said:
I know that for everyone, no device is perfect. As much as I LOVE this Fold 3, it's not perfect, but it's about as close as a mobile device has come for me. Then again, I know that I am also an edge-case as I use my Fold 3 in a way that most others do not. I use it as a Mobile Office. I call it my 3-pocket-laptop (look on YT for a video titled 4 pocket laptop to see what I am getting at).
I have a foldable BT KB with Trackpad, folding Tablet Stand and a 20kMah battery pack I take along and I can literally work from anywhere I have signal. I even made a portable, battery powered monitor (from an old Laptop and some parts I had to order (controller and the like)) I made that I can stuff in a backpack and have an even better experience when on the go. I no longer need to carry my work laptop with me with this setup.
So yeah, I get why it may not work for you, but for me, I love it.
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I saw that video and thought it was completely awesome what he did with the Z Fold3 and turning it into a complete desktop solution and even his Microsoft only co-worker was impressed with it.

vinokirk said:
Pics please! I've seen the Mr Mobile video you're referring to, that was a fantastic idea!
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I'll get some pics up soon. I am redesigning the "monitor" case now and want to have an all-in-one unit to show off.
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I saw that video and thought it was completely awesome what he did with the Z Fold3 and turning it into a complete desktop solution and even his Microsoft only co-worker was impressed with it.
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Yeah, I am former MSFT myself and several people there want me to try the same thing with a Duo 2 (which they are sending me) and do a comparison. This will be fun!