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I've had the phone since Sept 6th and this is 4th day I have my phone.
My battery life has been draining like crazy. I don't have a data plan, but I do go on wifi sometimes (not very often, and I don't keep it on for long). Maybe in total an hour to two a day.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user, I don't play any games or watch any videos nor listen to music at all. I only sms and download apps.
It's been 5h 42m 35s since unplugged and my battery life is down to 57. I hardly use it, my settings are pretty much the lowest.
It says
Android System 40%
Cell standby 21%
Phone idle 13%
Display 12% (weird, since I have animations are turned off and I used lowest brightness)
Camera 6% (I took 3 photos)
Wifi 4%
Maps 2%
Dialer 2%
about 2 hours ago, I rooted my desire since I've read reviews that it makes it faster, prolongs battery life and what not. (plus I could do so much more with it later on). But my battery was still draining at like 1% every minute and half that I touch it. (I also have task killer, but I don't kill task very often)
Then my friend suggested I get SetCPU (which I did) around 2 hours ago after I rooted my phone. Then I went out and hardly touched the phone unless I received sms, or to check the time. And it went from like 69 to 56 (within that 2 hours of doing nothing)
I've searched the forum for extending battery life (and googled as well) and read other users who have the same problem, and I pretty much did what was recommended but it's still draining.
I can hardly make it through the day!!
Is there any other way that I can charge it (when to charge it) or.. do you think it might be my battery's problem? Should I buy a new one?
Thanks for all the help again (I know this kind of thread has already been done, but that was in like April)
Your battery takes time to settle if it's a brand new device. It takes a few charge/discharge cycles for that.
If after say 14 days you are still getting poor life I'd try calibrating it. Instructions are HERE.
thanks! i will try that if my battery life still drains this crazily in a week.
Hello all,
I bought a new Z play to replace my ageing phone, and I have mixed feelings about the battery life. The phone has received universal praise for its battery life, and while some of it is true in my case, I can't seem to get those high SoT numbers that everyone brags about.
It's very difficult for me to break the 6h SoT barrier, and I consider myself a light user: whatsapp, browsing, some reddit, and the occasional music (through headphones). I don't play any games, or perform heavy tasks. Also the phone is connected to WiFi 85% of the time, get decent signal, and the screen is set on auto-brightness.
Running latest version of the stock rom, and I performed factory reset + wiped cache + reset network settings countless times as per suggestions.
Attached some stats for 50% that I just took.
Is there something I'm missing?
Take it with a grain of salt, just because people brag about numbers does not mean they are real or obtainable by everyone. Battery life will vary for every user and phone. The time you have is in the acceptable range and I would not worry.
Yes, even I have never achieved the 8-9+ hrs of SOT that's I've seen in some threads. Based on my usage I get a minimum of 6.5hr SOT with the phone lasting a good 25-27 hours before I have to plug it back in.
Since the phone is new it might take a few cycles for the battery to truly show its stamina.
Those answer are definitely right. It all varies on the users. . Also please makes sure you have bluetooth and wifi scanning off. (Location> Scanning > Bluetooth & Wifi Scanning) Another factor is apps. Get rid of facebook and facebook messenger. Apps that use GCM eat battery like a range rover eats gas. I've hit 8--10 hr of SOT before. Let your phone get use to your daily activities. I believe it'll optimize itself over time.
It's normal.
I was also getting earlier 5-6 hrs SOT(When the device was new) but not I'm getting 8-9 hrs SOT.
So as your phone is new it might take few cycles for the battery to show its full stamina!
Cheers!!
Thanks for the replies and for putting my mind at ease.
Bluetooth and wifi scanning are off (forgot to mention that).
Anyway, I understand. Those insane SoT of 10+ are best case scenarios with careful use of the device. Still happy with my current capacity (anything which lasts until the next morning is great).
And yep, the phone manual (who reads those anymore), did mention the battery taking a few cycles before reaching its capacity.
Now, for a different issue. If I'd like to disable turbocharging/quickcharging my phone, would a USB C to A cable coupled with any charger (including the quickcharging ones) do the trick? Based on my understanding, the cable limits the chargining power, so any regular (quality) C to A cable should restore normal charging speeds even when using a fast charging charger. In case you're wondering why I'd like to do that, it's because the phone gets way too hot for my liking when using the Moto turbocharger and I'd like to reserve that for when necessary.
Well, guyz do have a point.
The screenshots are showing you have almost 3hrs SoT after day and a half. This is normal.
Those >10 hrs of SoT aren't achieved with careful usage. Coming from my experience, I got 10.5 hrs SoT with 10% battery left, BUT, in one day. My Moto can last up to 3 day with one charge, but in those 3 days I'll have maybe 4hrs SoT. So, in average, my Moto lasts up to 2 days with 6/7hrs SoT (I mostly use FB, Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber, YT, Instagram, stock 6.0.1). It simply depends how you use it. That big, almost 11hrs SoT, I could only achieve on weekends, coz otherwise I don't have the time to stare in my phone so much.
On that other thing, Moto does get pretty hot while charging. And you're right, the cable does limit the charging power so it will probably work.
I was one of those users getting 10h SoT early on. But I was doing that inside a 24h usage window. Your 50% stats have you stretched out to like almost 3 days off charger. Idle time vs. screen on time is ALWAYS a trade-off.
I look at battery drain in terms of drain rate at idle, and drain rate with screen on. Early on I was seeing 6% drain per hour of screen on, and 1-1.5% per hour screen off. So basically 5 hours of idle time costs you 1 hour screen on. Those were my numbers on the original MM build. My battery life has gotten worse with every software update. I have NOT done a factory reset, mostly because I don't want the hassle and I still get a day off normal use with plenty of battery to spare. But I usually see 18h off charger and 3-4h SoT in a normal day, and that leaves me at 40-50% when I plug in.
Looking at your stats, if screen on costs you 6% per hour, you have 17% worth of screen on drain. That leaves 33% idle drain over 38 hours, or sightly less than 1% per hour idle. Seems pretty darn good to me.
Your cell signal is definitely not helping your battery life. Switch to 2g when on wifi, your signal bar should be full and it'll probably help your battery life.
Enjoy the fact that this phone lets you keep BT/WiFi scanning/Facebook/etc. on without having to worry whether or not you're going to make it a full day. I use all that stuff, have multiple live widgets updating, brightness at least half way, T-Mobile Digits running, and still make it a full day. Additionally, it's great to know that if you do have to make it 2-3 days with minimal usage because you don't have a charger handy, you can. However, I'm willing to bet that 99% of users are able to charge their phone daily. To those users, I say enjoy all the features and don't worry about it.
Really depends on the screen brightness...I can hit those number with my screen brightness turned down a good bit...probably around 30 percent and auto sync off...if i have brightness anywhere above 60 percent then battery life drops a good amount...still well enough to get me through a 12 hour work day but there is a difference
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I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
Honestly, I haven't found much of a need for Greenify, aggressive doze, or wakelock blocking apps on 8.0 and above. It might be beneficial to Greenify battery hungry social media apps (especially those related to Facebook), but then you end up with Greenify running constantly in the background. Plus it requests usage permissions, enabling it as a device admin, etc.
Do you have Adaptive Battery enabled? There is a thread in the general section where a few users have reported that their battery life improved after disabling it.
I came here wondering the same. I had Greenify installed for a while but im not sure its really doing much anymore. I just took the lastest OTA update and im gonna roll without Greenify to see if there's a difference. Ill report back in a few days.
I know it's the wrong phone. But I have just bought a Pixel 3a and am introducing myself to its battery usage. I use Greenify on my Galaxy S7 running superman rom. I forgot to reinstall it last time I reinstalled things and I reckon it makes between 20% and 30% improvement.
largeselection said:
I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
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My idle drain using EX is usually around 2%. What is your charging behavior... overnight and leave with 100% in the morning? I leave mine on the Pixel stand all night. If you are keeping it in your bedroom off-charger, use flip-to-shhh. You should have done that with BBS. If you didn't run BBS again overnight. 100% charged, hot off the charger and flip it upside down. This is just for a proper overnight battery drain test. Second, I would install Accubattery. It is NOT a battery drain app, but rather will eventually zero in on your remaining battery capacity compared with new. It uses several full charging sessions from say above 20% all the way to 100%. After a few full charging sessions it will give you solid information the condition of your battery. Just ruling the battery out here. If Accubattery confirms your battery capacity is well over 90% then you may want to do a fresh install. Sometimes that is the only thing that is going to return the good idle battery drain. Just my .02 cents. Take it for what it's worth. For reference, my battery capacity started at 106% new and is now at 94%. Cheers!
Hello everyone. I bought a Pixel XL 128GB about six month ago. I'm running completely stock Pie.
Accubattery is reporting 70 percent battery health. I don't know if previous owners ever replaced the battery of the phone with a 3rd party crappy one, but as soon as I unplug my phone it drops to 98 in a few minutes. Then after a few minutes it's on 92. If I unplug it and leave it overnight for 8+ hours, it's on 92-1 usually. This is when the phone doesn't seem to radically drop battery.
I can get, with gaming, about two hours of screen on time. Without gaming, I can barely squeeze out three hours of SOT. I am NOT a heavy user, mainly web, Gmail and Facebook. No photos. If I actively take pictures I can barely squeeze 2 hours without gaming.
GSAM and BBS shows my top stats always as "Android OS" and "kernel". Unplugging the phone on 97 began typing this and it's already on 89. I have brightness about halfway up.
Am I the only one with such lackluster battery? And the only one who's drops down to 91 seemingly instantly? For a battery with 70 percent health, I just feel it's really lacking. Is it just stock Pie?
My wife just upgraded from a 6P to a P2XL and she's getting, with gaming, six hours SOT. The OG XL does charge extremely fast though so there's that I guess?
Battery on 86 already in just that typing... Am I the only one? Sorry for the rambling.
After uploading screenshots, 83 percent. ? These are just some I've taken. As you can see in the one, hour and a half SOT and 15 percent. How?
EDIT2: 80 percent and 20 minutes SOT
snappycg1996 said:
After uploading screenshots, 83 percent. ? These are just some I've taken. As you can see in the one, hour and a half SOT and 15 percent. How?
EDIT2: 80 percent and 20 minutes SOT
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You can try resetting your phone and see if that solves the issue. Don't install any apps from the play store for a day and see how the battery drains. If it is still the same then you might have to replace your battery because that is not normal.
For one, do you play on your phone while it's plugged in? That is one of the main things that kills people's battery life. For two you can try to reset your battery AKA letting it die completely and then charging it to full with out using it, and do that for a couple days straight, usually fixes a lot of battery problems. Right now I am currently trying to let my phone die to keep my battery life healthy I do it all the time. I have 26 hours since last charge, and 4 hours on SOT, and I am still on 28%.
@snappycg1996 - have you tried anything yet? What helped, what didn't? I am having the same issue with my Pixel XL. It's got original battery and I get no more than 1.5 hrs SOT from full charge.
I know I should try wiping it, but really don't want to reinstall everything by hand and lose app data. The phone isn't rooted, so I don't know how to take a full backup of apps + data.
Pie, on-purpose, has made the battery life on this device utter ****e. Its only meant for newer hardware, go back to using Oreo, even there Google might push some services silently which won't produce the original good battery backup Oreo had. I myself get around 3-4 hours of SoT nowadays, however my phone is like 20-21 months old now. In any case, Pie is the main reason, other than the fact of your battery's age, for poor battery backup.
Flash latest Bootleggers ROM. profit.
Hi all
I noticed that the battery of my nate 20x 5g drains extremely fast under 20 % it went directly from 20 to 16 then to 8 then to 3 percent
Also the battery life 100 percent at 1pm drains to 30 percent at 6pm using only whatsapp and some calls it isn't as good as my p30 pro (1.5day normal usage)
I need your help cause if it's the same on all mate 20 x I'll be obliged to change the phone even I love everything on it except the battery life
arkamaxxx said:
Hi all
I noticed that the battery of my nate 20x 5g drains extremely fast under 20 % it went directly from 20 to 16 then to 8 then to 3 percent
Also the battery life 100 percent at 1pm drains to 30 percent at 6pm using only whatsapp and some calls it isn't as good as my p30 pro (1.5day normal usage)
I need your help cause if it's the same on all mate 20 x I'll be obliged to change the phone even I love everything on it except the battery life
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hm thats weird. check ur screen brightness, thats the no. 1 battery life sucker. also, switch off all unneeded sensors when not in use (wifi, mobile data, BT, NFC, GPS, etc).
aside from that, have a look at your performance profile (performance, balanced, battery saver) and also check and see how many apps are non battery optimized in settings, as well as how many apps are allowed to run in background and be launched automatically.
Thanx so much for your quick reply
I'll check this out and I'll give you a feed back
arkamaxxx said:
Hi all
I noticed that the battery of my nate 20x 5g drains extremely fast under 20 % it went directly from 20 to 16 then to 8 then to 3 percent
Also the battery life 100 percent at 1pm drains to 30 percent at 6pm using only whatsapp and some calls it isn't as good as my p30 pro (1.5day normal usage)
I need your help cause if it's the same on all mate 20 x I'll be obliged to change the phone even I love everything on it except the battery life
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wipe the phone don't install your sht wipe other crap apps and test the battery ... if still bad , need replacing...
Below 20% battery usage increases rapidly, this is normal.
The phone's wattage usage is constant as is its V+ power rail voltage. Volts X Amps=watts therefore as battery voltage falls the phone's voltage converter draws more amps to make up for the difference in falling voltage.
The phone's actual wattage consumption remains almost the same except for power lost in the voltage conversion.
Best to NOT use after 20-30% as it stresses the battery unnecessary.
arkamaxxx said:
I noticed that the battery of my nate 20x 5g drains extremely fast under 20 % it went directly from 20 to 16 then to 8 then to 3 percent
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Hey man,
Unfortunately its normal for that phenomenon to occur not only on the mate 20x but on other phones as batteries age losing their lasting strength. My sammy a70 also acts this way at the 20% point where battery scales down rapidly as you've described.
This is due to a few factors like one or more cells inside degrading over time as estimates to the battery gauge will be missing by the percentage of juice represented by the missing/damaged cell. There are other factors that come into play but this is by far the most frequently occurring event.
You can try replacing the battery which entails thermally heating the back cover to open the phone or buying a battery case like the one I linked below which I bought a few months ago. It has helped me extend my 20x's battery to 6 - 9 days under medium to heavy use without a recharge while killing bt, gps, data, etc. Under light use I was able to pull off 12 days without recharging.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001888167787.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.1c4e2e0ePKHzP0
Deanro said:
Hey man,
Unfortunately its normal for that phenomenon to occur not only on the mate 20x but on other phones as batteries age losing their lasting strength. My sammy a70 also acts this way at the 20% point where battery scales down rapidly as you've described.
This is due to a few factors like one or more cells inside degrading over time as estimates to the battery gauge will be missing by the percentage of juice represented by the missing/damaged cell. There are other factors that come into play but this is by far the most frequently occurring event.
You can try replacing the battery which entails thermally heating the back cover to open the phone or buying a battery case like the one I linked below which I bought a few months ago. It has helped me extend my 20x's battery to 6 - 9 days under medium to heavy use without a recharge while killing bt, gps, data, etc. Under light use I was able to pull off 12 days without recharging.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001888167787.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.1c4e2e0ePKHzP0
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Thank you so much for these explanations
arkamaxxx said:
Thank you so much for these explanations
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Youre very welcome my friend