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Hey guys
I want to buy a new Micro SD storage card... Does hermes support 4GB storage cards normally? what about 6GB ones?
I posted this message in this forum because I heard it is related to the OS...
What about the speed...? I have heard it slows down the device...
Hi,
without SDHC = max 4 GB
with SDHC = max 32 GB
wfg
starbase64
starbase64 said:
Hi,
without SDHC = max 4 GB
with SDHC = max 32 GB
wfg
starbase64
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What's SDHC?
What about the speed?
oxydiom said:
What's SDHC?
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Secure Digital High Capacity
oxydiom said:
What about the speed?
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Speed? It's pace at which data is transferred
Deepends on the card.
Got 8gb MicroSDHC installed and works great.
I have 8gb SDHC and it works fine
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...525/211219-microssd-cards.html#post1059210275
Assecciors
makesure you check out THIS thread in the assecciors section.
there are some more about that topic....
Thanks everybody, will buy a new one
oxydiom said:
Thanks everybody, will buy a new one
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If you buy the Sandisk 8Gb, you get a great little carrier/adapter that plugs straight into a USB port.
Then you can use your old card as a USB stick.
Hello,
I have a 4gb Class 4 microsd for my Cruise,
considering getting a 8gb Class 6.
Has anybody tested both of these speeds to see if there are any difference on read/write performances??
thanks a lot..
in.
inthemerde said:
Hello,
I have a 4gb Class 4 microsd for my Cruise,
considering getting a 8gb Class 6.
Has anybody tested both of these speeds to see if there are any difference on read/write performances??
thanks a lot..
in.
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not sure but i think power consumption is also a concern. i understand that 4vs6 is about a 2MBps difference, however i think class 6 draws more power. anyone care to comment?
m.carroll said:
not sure but i think power consumption is also a concern. i understand that 4vs6 is about a 2MBps difference, however i think class 6 draws more power. anyone care to comment?
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Thats really not woth anything. if you are considering upgrading because of speed, then look at the specs not the class. class just says what minimal speed it should have.
so class 4 = 4MB class 6=6MB. but there are much faster cards out there. even before those class 6 came out. You could go and buy the
"SanDisk Secure Digital High Capacity Extreme III 8GB"
it has around 20MB speed.
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Thats really not woth anything. if you are considering upgrading because of speed, then look at the specs not the class. class just says what minimal speed it should have.
so class 4 = 4MB class 6=6MB. but there are much faster cards out there. even before those class 6 came out. You could go and buy the
"SanDisk Secure Digital High Capacity Extreme III 8GB"
it has around 20MB speed.
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Obviously I m for the speed difference. But I think you r missing a point here, I m talking about a microSD (class 2,4,6). the one u r referring to is a normal size SDHC card.
Yes, the power comsumption might be a slight problem, but I can cope with that, I m interested in faster transfer rates.
Any other ideas folks?
inthemerde said:
Obviously I m for the speed difference. But I think you r missing a point here, I m talking about a microSD (class 2,4,6). the one u r referring to is a normal size SDHC card.
Yes, the power comsumption might be a slight problem, but I can cope with that, I m interested in faster transfer rates.
Any other ideas folks?
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i your right, i didn't see that. but still, you should take a look at the extreme series of Sandisk. they have got the fastest cards out there
I want to buy a really fast MicroSD card to the phone. But is it worth it? What is your write speed? I looking at SanDisk 64gb Ultra or the Extreme. What you say?
Sckank said:
What you say?
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The same like here, mate!
rootrider said:
The same like here, mate!
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Oh thanks mate
Sckank said:
I want to buy a really fast MicroSD card to the phone. But is it worth it? What is your write speed? I looking at SanDisk 64gb Ultra or the Extreme. What you say?
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I know this is an old thread but it came up on Google when i was searching for an SDXC card. I just upgraded OTA my stock HTC One M8 to android 6.12.710.4. Android Marshmallow allows you to format an SD card as internal. When i formatted my lexar card the device gave me a warning and said that the sdxc UHC-1 card i currently had in the device was too slow, would cause image jittering and not suitable for high-spec gaming.
I bought the sandisk ultra plus 64GB HUC-1 class U3 and it apppears to be fast. The read/write speeds independently tested were 80 and 60 read/write respectively. This is fast enough for games like NOVA 3, Asphalt 8 airborne and Modern Combat 5
Sorry for off topic, 6.12.710.4 which variant is this and the CID?
rriyad07 said:
Sorry for off topic, 6.12.710.4 which variant is this and the CID?
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Yes, off topic and random. Why do you ask?
"710" is CID HTC__039 & VODAP021
CIDs for most of the version numbers can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
Hello, I was hoping current owners of the Pixel C could tell us potential buyers what the actual available storage is with this tablet if you go to storage, in the settings menu. I'm personally interested in the 32 GB model, but it doesn't hurt to get info on both sizes. Thanks so much!
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Hello, I was hoping current owners of the Pixel C could tell us potential buyers what the actual available storage is with this tablet if you go to storage, in the settings menu. I'm personally interested in the 32 GB model, but it doesn't hurt to get info on both sizes. Thanks so much!
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My 64GB model reports 52.88 of user available storage. As for your poll, I'll add my own answer: "No, that's what my 128GB Nexus 6P is for (of which 75GB is filled with music)."
charesa39 said:
My 64GB model reports 52.88 of user available storage. As for your poll, I'll add my own answer: "No, that's what my 128GB Nexus 6P is for (of which 75GB is filled with music)."
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Same here.
Thanks for the replies, guys. Anyone with a 32GB wanna chime in?
Also, does anyone know why it issues SOO much storage? That's more than I was expecting, to be honest. It's a skin-free OS, after all. And there's no cell connectivity.
The usual reasons apply. 64gb is not the full 64gb as all figures are rounded down to zeroes. The zip/tgz file is compressed and expands when unpacked and all the boot and system files are put into place. This all needs a swap file capacity to work within and that to update system apps. My 64gb N6P has a similar available storage on initial boot.
24.22 for 32gb
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24.22 for 32gb
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Awesome, thanks for letting us know.
kboya said:
The usual reasons apply. 64gb is not the full 64gb as all figures are rounded down to zeroes. The zip/tgz file is compressed and expands when unpacked and all the boot and system files are put into place. This all needs a swap file capacity to work within and that to update system apps. My 64gb N6P has a similar available storage on initial boot.
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I never thought much about reserved, needed empty space for those types of operations. But I think of my 2012 N7. 32GB, and 28GB are available. That was one of the perks of a Nexus compared to, say, a Samsung. I just feel like that isn't the case anymore.
It has been a while since I've needed to get a MicroSD card for a phone. As you all know, the 512 GB option is out of stock and the only thing I was able to get my hands on was a 128 GB version of the S20 Ultra. Company paid for it.
What MicroSD speed is recommended for this phone? Am I looking at getting at least V60 to be able to use this phone appropriately? What would give me an "internal storage" experience? I didn't always have great experiences with removable storage on phones with lag, but this was years ago when speeds weren't even close to what we have today.
Advice is appreciated. Thank you!
reviad said:
It has been a while since I've needed to get a MicroSD card for a phone. As you all know, the 512 GB option is out of stock and the only thing I was able to get my hands on was a 128 GB version of the S20 Ultra. Company paid for it.
What MicroSD speed is recommended for this phone? Am I looking at getting at least V60 to be able to use this phone appropriately? What would give me an "internal storage" experience? I didn't always have great experiences with removable storage on phones with lag, but this was years ago when speeds weren't even close to what we have today.
Advice is appreciated. Thank you!
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How much storage space do you need? Size matters! Write Speed matters when you're shooting 4K Hi-Def Videos or Burst Photos. The Lexar Professional 1800x U3 microSD is very fast at a reasonable price as well. It's 128GB has all the speed you'll ever need and the smaller 64GB is even faster!
varcor said:
How much storage space do you need? Size matters! Write Speed matters when you're shooting 4K Hi-Def Videos or Burst Photos. The Lexar Professional 1800x U3 microSD is very fast at a reasonable price as well. It's 128GB has all the speed you'll ever need and the smaller 64GB is even faster!
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I think an additional 128 GB would do the trick.
Looks like the 1800x is a v90 card, correct? Are v90 speeds comparable to internal storage speeds?
reviad said:
I think an additional 128 GB would do the trick.
Looks like the 1800x is a v90 card, correct? Are v90 speeds comparable to internal storage speeds?
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Yes it's v90 rated. I've yet to experience an SD or MicroSD which processes as quickly as Internal Storage. How much of a lag is dependent on File Type, MicroSD Capacity and Card Speed. I fly often and enjoy watching movies on my device and paying considerably more for High Capacity Internal Storage isn't compelling.
I also put every file possible on the MicroSD. I don't have faith in Cloud Storage Security and if for any reason my device malfunctions I won't sacrifice any data, plus whenever I upgrade a device I can forego time consuming file transfers. Movies are petty large files so I use a 512GB MicroSD which isn't as fast as a lower capacity card. When I open the file I experience a couple of seconds of lag. For me it's a non issue when I take into consideration all of the advantages.
reviad said:
I think an additional 128 GB would do the trick.
Looks like the 1800x is a v90 card, correct? Are v90 speeds comparable to internal storage speeds?
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No where near close. the 1800X is ok but I returned it as the speeds didn't match enough of the lower model(s) at the price point. Better to buy the higher internal storage model, but obviously may be too late.
I benchmarked the internal memory in my S20U 512GB against my 512GB Samsung EVO Plus microSD card. The results show that a microSD will not come close to the performance of the phone's internal memory.
Internal memory
Read: 1000.13 MB/s
Write: 384.36 MB/s
Samsung EVO Plus 512BGB MicroSD
Read: 72.27 MB/s
Write: 45.47 MB/s
varcor said:
How much storage space do you need? Size matters! Write Speed matters when you're shooting 4K Hi-Def Videos or Burst Photos. The Lexar Professional 1800x U3 microSD is very fast at a reasonable price as well. It's 128GB has all the speed you'll ever need and the smaller 64GB is even faster!
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Sleepycat3 said:
I benchmarked the internal memory in my S20U 512GB against my 512GB Samsung EVO Plus microSD card. The results show that a microSD will not come close to the performance of the phone's internal memory.
Internal memory
Read: 1000.13 MB/s
Write: 384.36 MB/s
Samsung EVO Plus 512BGB MicroSD
Read: 72.27 MB/s
Write: 45.47 MB/s
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Thanks. That's a UHS-I card, so it will be slower than the Lexar 1800x, which is UHS-II However, it really gives me an idea of differences that I can expect. Thank you for posting that.
I think I'm going to go with the Lexar 1800x and hope for the best.
shollywood said:
No where near close. the 1800X is ok but I returned it as the speeds didn't match enough of the lower model(s) at the price point. Better to buy the higher internal storage model, but obviously may be too late.
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What did you get instead of the 1800x?
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reviad said:
Thanks. That's a UHS-I card, so it will be slower than the Lexar 1800x, which is UHS-II However, it really gives me an idea of differences that I can expect. Thank you for posting that.
I think I'm going to go with the Lexar 1800x and hope for the best.
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You will need to check that the S20 supports UHS-II. I have not been able to find any confirmation that it does (it would be a great marketing advantage if it did, so I don't think it would have been a hidden feature), so I don't think it does. When you use a UHS-II card in a UHS-I device, the speed will default back to UHS-I because it is missing the extra pins required for UHS-II.
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You will need to check that the S20 supports UHS-II. I have not been able to find any confirmation that it does (it would be a great marketing advantage if it did, so I don't think it would have been a hidden feature), so I don't think it does. When you use a UHS-II card in a UHS-I device, the speed will default back to UHS-I because it is missing the extra pins required for UHS-II.
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You were right. I was incorrectly assuming that a phone at this price point would support UHS-II, but it does not. Well, that will save me a few bucks while forcibly sacrificing speed
reviad said:
I think an additional 128 GB would do the trick.
Looks like the 1800x is a v90 card, correct? Are v90 speeds comparable to internal storage speeds?
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reviad said:
What did you get instead of the 1800x?
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Lexar 633X, almost the same speeds, nothing noticeable in difference, benchmarking was like .3 difference
Sleepycat3 said:
You will need to check that the S20 supports UHS-II. I have not been able to find any confirmation that it does (it would be a great marketing advantage if it did, so I don't think it would have been a hidden feature), so I don't think it does. When you use a UHS-II card in a UHS-I device, the speed will default back to UHS-I because it is missing the extra pins required for UHS-II.
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UHS-II does allow faster file transfer on the S20 than UHS-I which I appreciate since I'm constantly uploading new movies. 270 MB Read, 250 MB Write with the Lexar 1800x which is around three times the speed of most UHS-I Cards. Will it give you Internal Storage speeds? External Memory Cards will likely never approach that lofty goal.
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UHS-II does allow faster file transfer on the S20 than UHS-I which I appreciate since I'm constantly uploading new movies. 270 MB Read, 250 MB Write with the Lexar 1800x which is around three times the speed of most UHS-I Cards. Will it give you Internal Storage speeds? External Memory Cards will likely never approach that lofty goal.
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Would love to see a the speedtest of the Lexar 1800x UHS-II in the S20. If the main purpose is to upload movies into the card while on the PC through a UHS-II reader, then yes, there are speed benefits there. But it depends on the usage and how time critical that task is. When uploading from PC to the microSD card using a reader on your desktop, there is the opportunity to begin the upload into the MicroSD card, go away to grab a snack or dinner or breakfast. By the time you come back, it is all done. A different usage situation would be to copy directly into the MicroSD card while it is in your phone, so that would definitely benefit from higher speeds as you won't be able to use or bring your phone with you while it is copying.
The other interesting card for the S20 would be A2 rated cards. These have 4 times higher random write and almost 3 times higher random read IOs compared to A1 which in turn is better than not A rated cards. These would benefit if you were running apps off your microSD card. My Samsung Evo Plus 512GB performs almost at A1 levels, but way lower than A2.
reviad said:
It has been a while since I've needed to get a MicroSD card for a phone. As you all know, the 512 GB option is out of stock and the only thing I was able to get my hands on was a 128 GB version of the S20 Ultra. Company paid for it.
What MicroSD speed is recommended for this phone? Am I looking at getting at least V60 to be able to use this phone appropriately? What would give me an "internal storage" experience? I didn't always have great experiences with removable storage on phones with lag, but this was years ago when speeds weren't even close to what we have today.
Advice is appreciated. Thank you!
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If you wanna your micro sd speed to be as similar to the internal memory u need to use UFS Memory
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-cards/ufs-memory-card-128gb-mb-fa128g-am/
UFS is not supported on S20 .... so sad but it's true...
Sleepycat3 said:
Would love to see a the speedtest of the Lexar 1800x UHS-II in the S20. If the main purpose is to upload movies into the card while on the PC through a UHS-II reader, then yes, there are speed benefits there. But it depends on the usage and how time critical that task is. When uploading from PC to the microSD card using a reader on your desktop, there is the opportunity to begin the upload into the MicroSD card, go away to grab a snack or dinner or breakfast. By the time you come back, it is all done. A different usage situation would be to copy directly into the MicroSD card while it is in your phone, so that would definitely benefit from higher speeds as you won't be able to use or bring your phone with you while it is copying.
The other interesting card for the S20 would be A2 rated cards. These have 4 times higher random write and almost 3 times higher random read IOs compared to A1 which in turn is better than not A rated cards. These would benefit if you were running apps off your microSD card. My Samsung Evo Plus 512GB performs almost at A1 levels, but way lower than A2.
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I did a speed test on the 1800 already, nowhere close to what Varcor is claiming. Perhaps he/she can post proof of those speeds? Here is mine: