Develop Bugs

A good reason not to upgrade to the new Market in Froyo

Market filters:
When a user searches or browses in Android Market, the results are filtered, and some applications might not be visible. For example, if an application requires a trackball (as specified in the manifest file), then Android Market will not show the app on any device that does not have a trackball.
The manifest file and the device's hardware and features are only part of how applications are filtered — filtering also depends on the country and carrier, the presence or absence of a SIM card, and other factors.
Changes to the Android Market filters are independent of changes to the Android platform itself. This document will be updated periodically to reflect any changes that occur.
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Does anyone have any idea what the market filters are checking against?

That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2

dik23 said:
That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2
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Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.

I'm sorry, did you read your own link? If you had scrolled down, it shows several examples of what can be filtered. The filters are implemented by the application developer themselves, and if they don't, they still show up in the market.
Besides, filtering by the application has been in Android since 2.0. Any application that deems a device incapable of running it (for example, a lack of a light sensor) can stop itself from running.

some kind of filter (the ones I've heard of so far are incompatible screen resolution, unverified builds, and protected apps) is already being applied to 2.1 in the AOSP build. I couldnt see Yelp, the Android Community and TMZ apps for whatever reason

cashless said:
Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.
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Oh yeah, how suspicious. French people couldn't possibly prefer apps in French and people with that new Dell pad thing probably still want SMS and contact apps.
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so you are saying not upgrade to 2.2 because marketplace will filter apps for our phone, but stick with 2.1 because it doesn't?
well genius, why don't you go and install http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.yelp.android on your phone and let us know how that 'no filtering' works out for you.

When I was running my Vougue we ran into this problem as well, its not a big deal at all. from what I remember it was checking about the build.prob and screen size that is setup in your startup. what I used to do was set my phone to my the specs for the G1, then install the apps after adjusting the density to fit everything on screen and then reboot using factory startup. it worked pretty well for most of the apps since many only blocked off whatever border the developer had.
heres the problem though but with the pace we are going it wont come up for a while, once we decide we have a rom stable enough to flash we lost the abilty to change the settings since WM is copletely gone and no haret was used. I switched over to the Touch Pro and we had the exact same problem which was solved in the EXACT way but we were not flashed still(TP2 still has a LOOOONG way to go sad to say), kept the touch pro 2 for only a few weeks before they replaced my Sprint Line TP with a Touch pro 2 due to all the TP1 problems and i'm still saddened by the slow progress. I am a developer myself and even an avid budsmoker and was still able to help out. now Refer has done a great job but from my understanding he is just doing most changes to the Android Filesystem, theirs a couple other guys working on the kernels which would be were all the hardware problems are going to be fixed from. no matter what build we use something in the kernel is either not right, or we dont have the driver in place for Android itself and since we have few Hardware level developers working on these things it seems to be low progress.

Gallery Bug

I notice that whenever I download a picture from Chrome, and then go to the Gallery, the picture will not show up. However, if I go into the file manager and move the picture to a different directory, it seems to move. It seems to me as if the Gallery is not updating it's database of pictures after Chrome downloads. Is this a normal issue on the GS4 or is this something particular only with my phone?
Keep in mind im un-rooted and on stock firmware

Mateoftw said:
I notice that whenever I download a picture from Chrome, and then go to the Gallery, the picture will not show up. However, if I go into the file manager and move the picture to a different directory, it seems to move. It seems to me as if the Gallery is not updating it's database of pictures after Chrome downloads. Is this a normal issue on the GS4 or is this something particular only with my phone?
Keep in mind im un-rooted and on stock firmware
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Does noone know what's wrong?

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This happens to me too. I noticed that if you just leave it alone and come back like an hour later the picture will suddenly be there. But it is extremely annoying and I have no clue on how to fix it.
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It's because of the way media scanner is set to work on Samsung devices. If you force it to rerun with an app it will show up
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Makes sense. Very stupid to exclude the browser though lol
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Mateoftw said:
Makes sense. Very stupid to exclude the browser though lol
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It is system wide with Samsung devices. They cache everything until the next time media scanner runs.

Anything else you do though will refresh the media scanner. The only thing that doesn't refresh is the browser
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zelendel said:
It is system wide with Samsung devices. They cache everything until the next time media scanner runs.
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hey buddy how you been!? You got the s4 right? How you liking it??
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elesbb said:
hey buddy how you been!? You got the s4 right? How you liking it??
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Not been too bad man. How have you been? No I gave up on OEM based devices. To long before updates are issued if they ever get it. I only run Nexus devices now.

zelendel said:
Not been too bad man. How have you been? No I gave up on OEM based devices. To long before updates are issued if they ever get it. I only run Nexus devices now.
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Meh, i can tolerate it. And ive been alright. Too busy with work though. I hate working in a factory -.- cant wait for school to start in the fall. Oh and the nexus devices just dont seem to be all that great for the price. I hope Tmo does come out with their update soon so i can finally update my ROM lol. Hoping they release 4.3 right away instead of 4.2 updates. That way we dont have to wait forever like you said.

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Meh, i can tolerate it. And ive been alright. Too busy with work though. I hate working in a factory -.- cant wait for school to start in the fall. Oh and the nexus devices just dont seem to be all that great for the price. I hope Tmo does come out with their update soon so i can finally update my ROM lol. Hoping they release 4.3 right away instead of 4.2 updates. That way we dont have to wait forever like you said.
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Yeah mine was mostly dealing with the over lays like TW or Sense. I perfer AOSP roms and the nexus 4 having full AOSP support backed by good hardware was a big draw. Mainly as I always pay retail for my devices 350 was a bargain.

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Yeah mine was mostly dealing with the over lays like TW or Sense. I perfer AOSP roms and the nexus 4 having full AOSP support backed by good hardware was a big draw. Mainly as I always pay retail for my devices 350 was a bargain.
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I like all the cool features of the S4, but TouchWiz is history on my phone working on deleting some useless kernel services and other bloat crap that arent just apks in system directory. I love my phone. Just wish the random rebooting would go away -.- I guess thats where having full source and kernel code comes into handy
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elesbb said:
I like all the cool features of the S4, but TouchWiz is history on my phone working on deleting some useless kernel services and other bloat crap that arent just apks in system directory. I love my phone. Just wish the random rebooting would go away -.- I guess thats where having full source and kernel code comes into handy
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Yup pretty much. So what do you think of Samsungs push to Tizen? Think it will kill the OEM to switch to a fully closed sourced OS?

zelendel said:
Yup pretty much. So what do you think of Samsungs push to Tizen? Think it will kill the OEM to switch to a fully closed sourced OS?
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Hm, never heard of Tizen. However, "fully closed source OS" means its not Android. And i wont be using it lol. That is 99% of the reason i love android. Same reason i loved windows Mobile 6.5.x. I made custom ROMs for it, was able to change colors/etc via Registry edits, was easily able to write my own apps with C# (as i can do with android in Java) so a closed source OS will totally kill them. Granted, Samsung is a great company. They just better NOT get rid of Android all together. I have been diving into some of the securities with Android. And samsung is doing a great job keeping their stuff closed source by simply writing .c code and putting the compiled version into System/bin and have the system run its special code. So they are still staying closed source to a point
In their defense, i don't blame them. If i create something that is out of this world and beyond all others, i surely would want it to be copyrighted and unable to be repliated to other devices (IE Smart View, and the other things they made) I just fear everything will be "controlled" the US Government is already trying to overtake the internet and crap like that. Oh can't forget about the Verizon call info being shared with the Government. Bleh really strayed off there xD

elesbb said:
Hm, never heard of Tizen. However, "fully closed source OS" means its not Android. And i wont be using it lol. That is 99% of the reason i love android. Same reason i loved windows Mobile 6.5.x. I made custom ROMs for it, was able to change colors/etc via Registry edits, was easily able to write my own apps with C# (as i can do with android in Java) so a closed source OS will totally kill them. Granted, Samsung is a great company. They just better NOT get rid of Android all together. I have been diving into some of the securities with Android. And samsung is doing a great job keeping their stuff closed source by simply writing .c code and putting the compiled version into System/bin and have the system run its special code. So they are still staying closed source to a point
In their defense, i don't blame them. If i create something that is out of this world and beyond all others, i surely would want it to be copyrighted and unable to be repliated to other devices (IE Smart View, and the other things they made) I just fear everything will be "controlled" the US Government is already trying to overtake the internet and crap like that. Oh can't forget about the Verizon call info being shared with the Government. Bleh really strayed off there xD
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Oh it is still android based as only the kernel needs to be open. here is a part of the info. They recently had a developers con for it
Presented originally as an open source operating system, Tizen 2 has a complicated licensing model. Its SDK is built on top of open source components[31] but the entire SDK has been published under a non-open-source Samsung license.[32]
The operating system itself consists of many open source components. A number of components internally developed by Samsung (e.g. boot animation, calendar, task manager, music player applications) are however released under the Flora License which is most likely incompatible with requirements of the Open Source Initiative. Therefore it is not known whether the native application framework and its graphical components can be legally utilized for Free and Open Source Software such as GPL applications.

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Oh it is still android based as only the kernel needs to be open. here is a part of the info. They recently had a developers con for it
Presented originally as an open source operating system, Tizen 2 has a complicated licensing model. Its SDK is built on top of open source components[31] but the entire SDK has been published under a non-open-source Samsung license.[32]
The operating system itself consists of many open source components. A number of components internally developed by Samsung (e.g. boot animation, calendar, task manager, music player applications) are however released under the Flora License which is most likely incompatible with requirements of the Open Source Initiative. Therefore it is not known whether the native application framework and its graphical components can be legally utilized for Free and Open Source Software such as GPL applications.
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Im not liking it... Feels way too much like the older style phones. And that screenshot makes me wanna destroy all my electronics xD Never knew something so hideous could exist Lets hope its better than what I'm thinking. Wish they'd just stick to Android and java though..

elesbb said:
Im not liking it... Feels way too much like the older style phones. And that screenshot makes me wanna destroy all my electronics xD Never knew something so hideous could exist Lets hope its better than what I'm thinking. Wish they'd just stick to Android and java though..
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I ahte to say it but its not gonna be. Samsung wants complete control of the device. Just take a look at their unrootable kernels, locked bootloaders, and lack of interest in working with the developers. They used the Devs to make them popular and now couldnt care less. I have a feeling Samsung will go the way of Nokia if they keep this up.

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I ahte to say it but its not gonna be. Samsung wants complete control of the device. Just take a look at their unrootable kernels, locked bootloaders, and lack of interest in working with the developers. They used the Devs to make them popular and now couldnt care less. I have a feeling Samsung will go the way of Nokia if they keep this up.
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I noticed that the locked bootloaders and unrootable kernels were only carrier specific. I didnt have an unrootable kernel or a locked bootloader with my T-Mobile S4 variant but noticed other carriers had issues. Hmm. But yes if they keep it up i will not be buying any samsung device in the future. Im tryna make the S4 last me a good 3 - 4 years.

How to completely disable updates, including the pop up prompts

Hello, I am trying to keep my 3aXL on android 9. I've tried 10, and my essential mods I want don't work on stock, and I found 10 it's self to be a buggy mess personally. I have already disabled automatic system updates in the developer options, but I also want to disable the prompts that try to pop up right under your finger at random times trying to get you to click update and have no confirm prompt. I have had to completely reflash my phone twice because the prompt just pops up randomly when i'm scrolling through an app or something. If anyone could point me in the right direction to completely disabling updates and prompts it would be a huge help.
Thanks!

Lol, Android 10 is better than 9 in pretty much every way

thatsupnow said:
Lol, Android 10 is better than 9 in pretty much every way
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Thanks for your input.

toderive said:
Thanks for your input.
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I know this isn't exactly the answer you want... But... If you root your phone in Android 9 it will not stop the update notifications but it will make the update fail so you will remain on Android 9 no matter what.
As far as actually stopping the notifications you have to remove update services which you cannot do without root and what services i can't say as haven't done this since like Ice cream sandwich. Also almost all custom roms disable upgrade as well.
All that said i agree with the above 10 is better in almost every way and 9 is now very outdated and insecure.

adm1jtg said:
I know this isn't exactly the answer you want... But... If you root your phone in Android 9 it will not stop the update notifications but it will make the update fail so you will remain on Android 9 no matter what.
As far as actually stopping the notifications you have to remove update services which you cannot do without root and what services i can't say as haven't done this since like Ice cream sandwich. Also almost all custom roms disable upgrade as well.
All that said i agree with the above 10 is better in almost every way and 9 is now very outdated and insecure.
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No that's very helpful thank you. I am rooted already. I have been looking around for a thread or guide on how to disable the update services but to no avail. Not sure if i'm just not looking in the right places or searching for the wrong things but if you could give me a run down on how to do so, or point me towards another thread that explains how to do it that would be great. Thanks!

toderive said:
Hello, I am trying to keep my 3aXL on android 9. I've tried 10, and my essential mods I want don't work on stock, and I found 10 it's self to be a buggy mess personally.
Thanks!
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What mods are you trying to use? How long ago did you try Android 10. Compatibility always seems to better with time and Android 10 has been out for 6 months now. Plus, it your mods haven't been updated to be compatible with Android 10, they aren't going to be. They also won't work with Android 11 either. How long are you going to hang on to the outdated (security updates) Android 9? At some point you are going to have to bite the bullet and move on.
As far as Android 10 being a buggy mess, I don't think anyone is going to agree with you.

Opie, I totally understand your plight. I remember I had an exploit and needed to turn off the system prompting me to update for like a year and a half before I figured out the new way of doing things on the new version of Android.
I think the app was called titanium freeze. It was many years ago.

General GrapheneOS is available for the Pixel6/6Pro

GrapheneOS​The private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit open source project.
website : https://grapheneos.org/
WebUSB-based Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/web
CMD Line Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
Releases : https://grapheneos.org/releases#raven-stable
This is listed as "Experimental"...

Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?

Android-Desire said:
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)

Good to hear about... will be watching! cheers

I basically bought my P6P for this, so I'm extremely happy development is moving forward! Really hoping that, when a stable version is out, it will be possible to use the phone "normally" with it. Keep it up, Graphene team!

I'm with @Alex-Absolute I purchased my P6 just for GrapheneOS support, coming from a string of OnePlus devices. Though I am going to wait until it's listed as stable to switch, I'm excited they have a working build going!

I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!

Alekos said:
yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
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I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....

Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS

Alex-Absolute said:
Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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You're welcome, I'm using the free version - it's been around for a very long time on Windows, and I'm using the Android app which appears to more or less sync with the Windows version through Dropbox, if you have or create an account with Dropbox. It doesn't work perfectly for me, but I at least get notifications on my phone about the same changes in websites that the Windows program lets me know about - so I at least know that I should get on the computer and look to see what's new.
Sorry to anyone for the OT - I have lots of Android-related sites set to give me notifications of changes through this program.
The non-free version is a little pricey for my needs.

RetroTech07 said:
Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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I will post some screens later this evening...

I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto

AndroidAddict420 said:
I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
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I agree. I've been using it off and on for 18 months on different pixels. but just good to be cautious, as always...
GrapheneOS just tweeted a few hours ago, the next release will be Stable for the 6 series (most likely this week)

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Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page
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What I read about that is that its not experimental in the "unstable" sense, its that they haven't fully implemented the security enhancements.

Flippy125 said:
I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
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Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?

The.Jericho.Initiative said:
Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
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Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.

Flippy125 said:
Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
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Despite the hassle and increased expense, perhaps one of those Carplay AI boxes like Apple Pi might be the necessary workaround?
I'm very interested in this OS, but I too rely on carplay/auto as a general rule while driving. If I have to outsource my maps and music to an external box in order to have more comprehensive device security, that might just be the way it has to be.

Flippy125 said:
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
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Thank you for reporting. As curious as I am about this OS, this rules this out for me too. Been using AA for almost four years now and I'm hooked.

I want privacy, but I cannot live without syncing all my stuff together. Is this OS for me?

General XDA article: Google reportedly working on tap-to-transfer feature for media in Android 13

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-tap-to-transfer/
January 10, 2022 3:59pm Corbin Davenport
Google reportedly working on tap-to-transfer feature for media in Android 13​Android 12L hasn’t been officially released yet, but that isn’t stopping Google from working on the next major release, Android 13 (which is internally codenamed “Tiramisu”). We’ve already covered some of the features currently in the works for Android 13, but now details are public about another possible change — a “tap to transfer” feature for media playback.
Android Police has shared a supposed Google UI demo mockup for a new feature in Android 13, labelled as a “Media TTT” workflow — the “TTT” part is for “tap to transfer.” The screenshots show off a small message at the top of the display, which reads “Move closer to play on DEMO” in one image, and “Playing on DEMO” on the other. The latter popup also has an Undo button, presumably in case you accidentally walk close to a speaker and don’t want your music to start playing on it.
There aren’t any other details available besides what you see in the above screenshots. The functionality might work similarly to the ‘Hand off audio’ feature on Apple’s HomePod smart speakers, which allows you to hold an iPhone or iPod Touch close to a HomePod to set the speaker as the output. That feature uses a combination of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, but it’s not clear what mechanism Google will use if this functionality actually makes it into Android 13. Google could add this to the Chromecast functionality in Android, or bring it to standard Bluetooth wireless audio, or both. It’s unclear what technology this feature will use to share files.
Assuming a similar schedule as previous years, Android 13 will likely start rolling out in the fall of this year, with developer previews and beta releases in the coming months. Android 12L is supposed to arrive sometime before the end of Q1 2022, which can be anytime from now until March 31. Android 12 is still slowly rolling out to phones and tablets — Sony just started updating its devices, for example.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-tap-to-transfer/
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The wording is awkward. Gives the impression of something similar to Bluetooth file transfer. I suppose it could be some kind of selective playback over Bluetooth (as opposed to routing *all* audio over Bluetooth), but since google is really into reinventing the wheel and making things only compatible with their own crap, its probably just (chrome)cast.

Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.

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Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.

RetroTech07 said:
Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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Software is perfect for me...

roirraW edor ehT said:
It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.
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I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
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Software is perfect for me...
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It's been fine for me but I wouldn't say perfect. I've had some random reboots / glitches appear, and battery drain issues I can't explain.

Le Googs be like, 12 is a hot mess! Time to focus on 13 instead!

RetroTech07 said:
I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
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The radio issues are probably the responsibility of Samdung to deal with. I doubt that ANYONE at google is working on that at any depth greater than testing the updates received from samduck.
But even if google was doing actual work on the radio, do you really think that the same people have the knowledge and skills to work on radio firmware as those who work on UI or those who work on things like this feature? So you would do what? Lay off the UI and new features workers while waiting for the radio firmware people to fix their glitches?

Yup this is confusing because Google needs to fix stable 12 first but then they still developing 12L and now 13 lol I know they have different teams but I wonder if they will just merged 12L to 13 or just leave 12L for fold / flip devices.