Hello, I am an owner of HTC 10 bought in T-Mobile in Poland, Europe. My latest available software through OTA was 1.95.118.3, as shown on screenshot below, with the security patch from August. I wanted to change my CID to USA unlocked, but I have a couple of questions:
1) If I unlock the bootloader and change CID, will I be able to re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so, do you think that if I change CID to USA-unlocked and relock the bootloader my phone will be normally accepted on HTC warranty as if it was just stock? Or will they say that if my CID is from usa, my phone has to be serviced in USA?
3) Can HTC prove that I've unlocked my phone's bootloader and thus refuse to accept the warranty? I mean, even if I relock it, does HTC collect any info during the process of unlocking?
Thanks for the reply!
Your phone is out of HTC warranty either way when the bootloader gets unlocked. Even without changing the CID.
You need to be S-Off in order to change your CID, and Sunshine gives the option to S-Off your phone without unlocking the bootloader.
With S-Off "locked" you will still be able to flash a custom recovery and ROM, but staying locked will hide that from HTC for warranty. You just have to go back to S-On using Sunshine
xunholyx said:
You need to be S-Off in order to change your CID, and Sunshine gives the option to S-Off your phone without unlocking the bootloader.
With S-Off "locked" you will still be able to flash a custom recovery and ROM, but staying locked will hide that from HTC for warranty. You just have to go back to S-On using Sunshine
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What you said made me extremely happy One question - on sunshine changelog it says:
Version 3.4
No wipe/format for HTC 10 (when choosing S-OFF/LOCKED)
S-OFF/LOCKED will behave as S-OFF/UNLOCKED on HTC 10
Does it mean if I choose S-OFF/LOCKED it will still be shown in bootloader as UNLOCKED?
Magic Stick said:
What you said made me extremely happy One question - on sunshine changelog it says:
Version 3.4
No wipe/format for HTC 10 (when choosing S-OFF/LOCKED)
S-OFF/LOCKED will behave as S-OFF/UNLOCKED on HTC 10
Does it mean if I choose S-OFF/LOCKED it will still be shown in bootloader as UNLOCKED?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it will show S-OFF/locked. But you can do everything you can do with an S-OFF/unlocked device.
Related
May I know if One X is able to be S-OFF, is it mean that even the bootloader status is locked and we still can root and flash custom rom? How it different with unlock bootloader using HTCDev? sry for noob question..
No you need to be unlocked to root and flash custom roms. As of now HTCDev is the only method to allow unlocking.
Simple method. We don't know when Revolutionary will release their tool.
S-ON + LOCKED = You can only use official HTC firmware and only for the specific branded version you have.
S-ON + UNLOCKED = You unlocked it via htcdev. You're able to change the system and recovery images to allow for custom firmware. You can't alter anything regarding the baseband aka cell radio. HTC know you unlock via htcdev as they make you enter your serial number and other details to generate a phone specific unlock token. This will affect your warranty as any software caused faults are your own problem. General hardware warranty is still the same.
S-ON + RELOCKED = You relocked it after unlocking via htcdev. Same as S-ON + LOCKED except it shows you relocked.
S-OFF = No restrictions at all by the bootloader. You can alter everything. HTC don't let you do this and you need somebody else to work out a flaw in the bootloader to do it. Technically this voids your warranty as well but if you relock and don't leave any evidence that you did so then HTC won't know.
ken-ywk said:
May I know if One X is able to be S-OFF, is it mean that even the bootloader status is locked and we still can root and flash custom rom? How it different with unlock bootloader using HTCDev? sry for noob question..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No one knows about S-off.
It doesn't mean we can root and flash custom roms even on the locked bootloader. It was a different and unofficial way of unlocking the bootloader which can be locked again when we need.
We can do the same thing even in this HTC dev method, I mean locking the bootloader, but after that the status of the bootloader will be RELOCKED not locked. That means HTC people may know that our device is already unlocked before.
One more thing (which I heard and I am not sure), we can't flash ported roms on our device unless and until we have S-off.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
I had to turn s back on on my phone, but now i have three flags Tampered, Relocked, and Secruity warning, is there any way to get rid of the tampred and secruity warning and change the relocked back to locked?
Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
nickrule1896 said:
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you can but no guarantee that you can get s-off
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
nickrule1896 said:
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No its not guaranteed s-off depends on your phone international unlocked does not s- off and some others
maxrdlf95 said:
Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am S-off, had to go s-on because I need to send phone into htc
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
Sunshine S-off's your phone, as well as unlocking the bootloader. HTCdev unlocks your bootloader but leaves security/signing on (S-on) Also, the method Sunshine uses to unlock your bootloader doesn't trip a factory reset.
You don't typically need to turn security/signing off unless you want to change your CID/MID (to convert your handset to a different region) or go back to an older version of firmware/software.
AlecRobertson said:
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC dev only unlocks the boot loader, sunshine or firewater provides full s off which lifts restrictions to partitions that are normally locked down.
Check the below thread for explanations.
Thread updated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744194
Thank link is invalid.
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
AlecRobertson said:
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So in bootloader (or alternately, adb getvar all) it indicates s-off?
If so, and you didn't do firewater or sunshine, then its factory s-off. Its rare, but I've seen it here from time to time.
Hello ,
I have an HTC M8 ( HTC__203 CID ) and i want to bring it back to fully stock. Lock my bootloader and install official ROM.
I follow this GUIDE but i have to be s-off in order to finish it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2735235
How can i turn my m8 to S-OFF from S-ON ?
I cant pay SUNSHINE 25$ ..
Is there any other way?
Or any way to lock my bootloader?
Without s-off you can put the flag from UNLOCKED to RELOCKED
only with s-off you can let it show LOCKED. sunshine is the only real (and cheapest) way to s-off the device. No other method available.
The nearest you can get to stock is to run the appropriate RUU with a relocked bootloader. Or restore the matching stock nandroid backup for your device and flash back the stock recovery, then relock the bootloader.
That's about it. Ow yeah and please post questions in the Q&A section next time. This is the GENERAL section.
alexis333 said:
I have an HTC M8 ( HTC__203 CID ) and i want to bring it back to fully stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only real reason to return the phone to full stock with LOCKED bootloader is for warranty purpose. Is that what you are trying to do?
If so, then sunshine is the only way to s-off.
redpoint73 said:
The only real reason to return the phone to full stock with LOCKED bootloader is for warranty purpose. Is that what you are trying to do?
If so, then sunshine is the only way to s-off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah something like that. I want to sell it so the person who will take it to have full warranty access.
Thanx both of you. The problem is that in Greece ( where i live ) i dont have the access to my paypal in order to pay Sunshine because of Bank System.
We have Capital Controls so we cant buy anything from outside of our country.
Mr Hofs said:
Without s-off you can put the flag from UNLOCKED to RELOCKED
only with s-off you can let it show LOCKED. sunshine is the only real (and cheapest) way to s-off the device. No other method available.
The nearest you can get to stock is to run the appropriate RUU with a relocked bootloader. Or restore the matching stock nandroid backup for your device and flash back the stock recovery, then relock the bootloader.
That's about it. Ow yeah and please post questions in the Q&A section next time. This is the GENERAL section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So whats the proper RUU to flash. And how can i flash it in relocked bootloader ?
I tried this -> 0P6BIMG_M8_UL_L50_SENSE60_MR_HTC_Europe_4.16.401.10_Radio_1.25.214500021.06G_20.68.4196t.01_F_release_417809_signed
and this one -> One_M8_4.16.401.10_stock_system_dump.zip
but after i type " fastboot flash zip ruu.zip " in the end it shows me this error -> 12 signature verify fail
What does it mean ?
Hello guys, I have had my htc one m8 for a while now and wanted to root the device. After looking through many websites, i realized that you had to unlock the boot-loader. However, when i went to check my fast-boot, i saw that the boot-loader was locked but instead of being S-ON it was S-OFF and i can't unlock the boot loader using htcdev. How do i unlock the boot-loader with s-off?
Kind regards,
Arbaaz
What happens when you try to unlock the bootloader by HTCDev.com? S-off shouldn't prevent you from doing so. If you are having issue with unlocking the bootloader, I have a feeling its due to other factors, not s-off.
Since you are s-off, you can use the following thread to manually change the bootloader flag to UNLOCKED: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
Another possibility, is if the phone was s-off by sunshine, the device would still have a valid sunshine license. Just install the sunshine app, and see if you can unlock the bootloader using the app (no HTCDev.com process required to do it this way).
http://theroot.ninja/download.html