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Hello, good news!
LG finally admits the problem. Then it will be easier for us to have our devices repaired/replaced! :highfive:
Some of you already shared links on several topics related to bootloop, I think it's better to create a new topic about it, as I wrote an article too for french customers
English: http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-admits-g4-bootloop-problem-hardware-fault-669603/ (official statement)
French: http://www.gamergen.com/actualites/...engage-remplacer-unites-defectueuses-269974-1
For european customers/people who bough it from UE reseller, no worries:
bel57 said:
P.S. furthermore, European Union stipulate under directive 1999/44/CE that it allows users to modify the software, root included. This modification *DOES NOT* void minimum warranty of 2 years on hardware supported by the manufacturer.
Voided warranty by "illegal" software modification has been classed as an unfair term and it's fought by U.E.
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Sources
https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
http://www.bitdefender.com/security...nty-in-eu-but-opens-new-ways-for-malware.html
Already discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
EDIT: check out Svartsyn333 feedback
Svartsyn333 said:
Just called them and it's on its way back, should arrive within the next few hours! They told me it got repaired and all is fine. Owner check went through IMEI so no problem with forgetting to add the invoice, too. And no problem with unlocked bootloader and root either! I'm a happy girl now. I will come back here when it arrived and tell if they just repaired it or if I got a new device.
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EDIT2: Ok guys, I *finally* got my G4 back.
LG PROJECT P1 (H815 - LG G4)
IMEI changed
S/N 505x => 602x
Repair: SWAP motherboard, software update (20D)
But would we all be subjected to the warranty? Otherwise it's not different from before.
At this point it seems like they just realized what the problem is after wrongly sending back a few units as 'repaired' even though it's still having issues.
"Customers who purchased their G4 devices from non-carrier retailers should contact an LG Service Center with the understanding that warranty conditions will differ. "
If you purchased your G4 from a third party website/eBay, it's more difficult to get your warranty recognized.. best is buying it via carrier, LG official store and recognized sellers.
Are they also going to apply the fix during the production of newer LG G4s? because if not, it sounds like all lg g4 will experience the bootloop sooner or later and will only repair it after it has happened
Yes, no detailed information about it, but it seems that they already changed the production process weeks ago and they're just late to communicate on the identification of this breakdown.
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"Customers who purchased their G4 devices from non-carrier retailers should contact an LG Service Center with the understanding that warranty conditions will differ. "
If you purchased your G4 from a third party website/eBay, it's more difficult to get your warranty recognized.. best is buying it via carrier, LG official store and recognized sellers.
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"For in warranty repair service, you must include a copy of the proof of purchase inside the product packaging returned to the LG Product Repair Center."
Well, I can't see any problem here. You need the original invoice, that's uuuh.. normal?
I just bought the g4 and sadly discovered that my S/N started with 505. Thanks god i did not unlock the bootloader. But I really want to unlock it to install custom rom. I'm thinking of sending my device to LG even if i didn't have the bootloop yet so i'll be sure not to get it after unlocking the bootloader and then having LG not repairing my phone. What do you think ?
Just use it and stop worrying, your device may not be broken as ours.. and no, you can't leave it to repair if it doesn't have the bootloop thing.
So where are all those people now who always wanted to prove not many people are being affected or it's a common thing to have problems when they first come in the market???? I wanna see their faces... I had to hear lots of things when I started writing about it. People made me believe maybe I am the only one annoying the surreal sound of the community. It makes me so happy to see this day which I was crying out loud to happen for so long.
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I had to hear lots of things when I started writing about it.
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I feel you, bro. I went through all pages of your topic. It's a worldwide issue and it's a shame LG is so late to admit this problem. Well, finally you're right, our posts, our thoughts.. all paid off. Thanks mate.
Often when people are not concerned they tend to underestimate facts.. and this proves too much units are faulty.
bel57 said:
I feel you, bro. I went through all pages of your topic. It's a worldwide issue and it's a shame LG is so late to admit this problem. Well, finally you're right, our posts, our thoughts.. all paid off. Thanks mate.
Often when people are not concerned they tend to underestimate facts.. and this proves too much units are faulty.
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Thanks man.... Hopefully me and all the other suffered will have our devices repaired. Best of luck for all of us.
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spartan268 said:
But would we all be subjected to the warranty? Otherwise it's not different from before.
At this point it seems like they just realized what the problem is after wrongly sending back a few units as 'repaired' even though it's still having issues.
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Yah, what "warrenty will differ" means, needs to be cleared out.
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Wish you all good luck in this initiative. As for me, I'll go to carrier shop tomorrow to get a spare unit. :good:
Good to see this thread. My phone just died this night and since then is constantly hanging at boot screen. No access to recovery and download mode, no recognition by the computer (only a few seconds, then it restarts and gets disconnected) so no kdz flash via flash tool either. Just sent out a repair request to LG. Now fingers crossed it falls under warranty as I unlocked the bootloader. I purchased it in June and this is clearly of one of the first produced series which has the hardware defect, s/n starts with 505.
Don't worry, LG must repair this harware issue, no matter if BL is unlocked or not.
If you want to wipe or recover your data, try the freezer method. It works.
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So where are all those people now who always wanted to prove not many people are being affected or it's a common thing to have problems when they first come in the market???? I wanna see their faces... I had to hear lots of things when I started writing about it. People made me believe maybe I am the only one annoying the surreal sound of the community. It makes me so happy to see this day which I was crying out loud to happen for so long.
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A lot of these 'people' don't really care or look into things until it happens to them.
Then all of a sudden there up in arms being your friend about the issue. It really only took a two second google search to see how widespread this is. On reddit there's a constant stream of bootloop posts if that's not enough proof.
Now? It's just crickets from the ones who were so keen on shooting this off as a small 'problem'. foh
bel57 said:
Don't worry, LG must repair this harware issue, no matter if BL is unlocked or not.
If you want to wipe or recover your data, try the freezer method. It works.
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I have a backup on the sd card from just a few days ago. I was aware something is wrong as it started to have charging issues, so I made one to better be safe than sorry.
Good idea :good:
Unfortunately mine freeze too fast, I just had time to retrieve my data then wipe all via recovery.. now it's sent for repair.. :crying:
But I can't do anything before this issue occurs? My s/n also starts with 505...My only chance is to keep fingers crossed?:fingers-crossed:
Yo don't complain as your phone is working great, just enjoy it and keep in mind to backup your data to microSD/computer. There's a small percentage that it will brake one day.
I remember mine overheated few times, and it may have broke a hardware component.
If there's nothing to report on your device, then you don't have to worry.
hi everyone,
with the number of occurrences of the lg g4 bootloop, i become paranoid that one day my g4 will experience it.
is there a way to deliberately damage my g4 software so i can claim before the warranty run out?
Flash wrong KDZ?
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have not thought that, if my phone die because root can i still claim warranty?
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have not thought that, if my phone die because root can i still claim warranty?
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Nope.
Guys like you are the reason why manufacturers are doing the bootloader locking or using qfuse.
my g4 with sn 505 is known very risky to bootloop , I just do not want my phone to be exposed to bootloop before warranty period end.
I have 506 and I'm in the same boat like you but damaging it on purpose to claim warranty is wrong.
If it happens after warranty time the only thing you could do is ask LG to repair it because it's a known problem.
If it happens to me I will try to fix it myself bybacking the motherboard in the oven (no joke!!!).
It doesn't matter if it works or not LG will be on my list of manufacturers I will never again buy from.
So far on this list is Samsung, Sony, and probably LG.
The bootloop issue is due to hardware, not software. I believe any issues caused by software is not under warranty.
And what would damaging the software help anyway? They will just reflash the correct firmware and done. Maybe they will exchange it, but I highly doubt it.
My g4 came with 2 year warranty and I had it for 6 months, no trouble whatsoever, in fact I love it. If the boot loop issue occurs within the next 18 months then warranty deals with that. If not then I will be upgrading to a newer phone anyway, so really no need to worry it's a win win situation me thinks
I finally ran into the bootloop problem that is common with early G4's (if you have a serial number that starts with 505, you're basically gonna be screwed at some point). Since it's a hardware issue that LG acknowledges, I sent it back to the factory under warranty, waited for two weeks using my old backup phone, and finally received it back today.
Ready for the fun part? They had repaired something that wasn't broken (kind of like surgery on the wrong body part) and had not touched the bootloop issue! They fixed "No power with cable" by replacing the flash memory. This was never an issue. The frustrating thing is that they didn't even restart the phone to find out if it had been fixed, because if they had it would have gone right back into the bootloop. Arg!
The G4 is now back on route to LG. I said they should give me a new phone, but customer service said they only do that if it cannot be repaired. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they go to the trouble to turn on the phone after "repair" this time.
Thanks for letting me rant!
I have currently my 2nd G4 that has run into this issue. This one has serial number starting with 506, so I guess it might stem a little further into production also. This is driving me nuts, I could not send my phone to LG because of how long it takes so had Verizon send me one and of course I run into the same exact issue with the bootloops. Last time I was able to still flash kdz's, this time won't even go past the LG boot screen. Really wish I could wipe my data at least.
I can attest to LG's incompetence. On March 2nd I sent in my G4 because it was bootlooping. Sent it in no problem, and after about a week I received my G4 back with the problem "fixed" by flashing the memory. Well guess what, it wasn't fixed. As soon as I turned it on, it started to bootloop again. I called LG and they arranged another RMA. Sent it back again, and about a week and a half later, I had my G4 back. This time they "fixed" it by replacing a capacitor. Guess what! Still not fixed. It still continued to bootloop. Called LG extremely angry and filed a complaint. LG arranged another RMA. At this point I had been without my phone for over 20 days. Finally, LG fixed it properly by replacing the motherboard. Now its fixed and it only took them over a month to figure it out.
While I applaud their easy RMA process, whoever the idiots are actually doing the repair are just that.. idiots. Its as if they don't even turn the phone on and ensure it fully boots up before they claim its fixed and ship it back. Whats worse for me is my phone was rooted on VS986B. Got the phone back on Marshmallow 24C and it took the update to 25a overnight. Now I'm stuck with no way of rooting.....
When you get your phone back from LG, chances are it will be on 24C. If you plan on rooting, do so quickly and downgrade.
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I can attest to LG's incompetence. On March 2nd I sent in my G4 because it was bootlooping. Sent it in no problem, and after about a week I received my G4 back with the problem "fixed" by flashing the memory. Well guess what, it wasn't fixed. As soon as I turned it on, it started to bootloop again. I called LG and they arranged another RMA. Sent it back again, and about a week and a half later, I had my G4 back. This time they "fixed" it by replacing a capacitor. Guess what! Still not fixed. It still continued to bootloop. Called LG extremely angry and filed a complaint. LG arranged another RMA. At this point I had been without my phone for over 20 days. Finally, LG fixed it properly by replacing the motherboard. Now its fixed and it only took them over a month to figure it out.
While I applaud their easy RMA process, whoever the idiots are actually doing the repair are just that.. idiots. Its as if they don't even turn the phone on and ensure it fully boots up before they claim its fixed and ship it back. Whats worse for me is my phone was rooted on VS986B. Got the phone back on Marshmallow 24C and it took the update to 25a overnight. Now I'm stuck with no way of rooting.....
When you get your phone back from LG, chances are it will be on 24C. If you plan on rooting, do so quickly and downgrade.
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When they finally replaced the motherboard, did the physical serial number on the phone change?
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When they finally replaced the motherboard, did the physical serial number on the phone change?
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No, that's the same. The board was replaced, but the plastic piece that holds that battery, which is on top of the board, was not replaced.
Happy to report that all is well after the second repair. Came back with 6.0, but I downgraded to 5.1, rooted, and have just about everything working again (can't get Exposed to work, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually). Nothing like spending 3+ weeks on a 2011 Droid Bionic to make me appreciate my G4!
Would one of you care to explain how you contacted LG to set up the repair. I have filled out the online form twice and have never heard a word. Thanks.
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Would one of you care to explain how you contacted LG to set up the repair. I have filled out the online form twice and have never heard a word. Thanks.
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Im not sure if you are in the U.S., but here's their support phone number 800 243-0000. They are usually pretty easy to deal with over the phone.
I am still kicking myself that I didn't downgrade as soon as I got my phone back. I hate not having root anymore.
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No, that's the same. The board was replaced, but the plastic piece that holds that battery, which is on top of the board, was not replaced.
Happy to report that all is well after the second repair. Came back with 6.0, but I downgraded to 5.1, rooted, and have just about everything working again (can't get Exposed to work, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually). Nothing like spending 3+ weeks on a 2011 Droid Bionic to make me appreciate my G4!
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Droid bionic.. I wish! I originally dug up my old Galaxy Nexus, but the battery life was so bad that I swapped it out for my son's old Droid Razr. Of course, I had to safestrap it and put a custom ROM on there because I have a LG G Watch R and android wear was not compatible with the factory software on the Razr. It was a pretty horrible experience overall. I'm glad I have my G4 back, but I really miss root.
You can still downgrade to 5.1 and root. Mine was on the latest version when it came from the factory and I didn't have any problems with the process.
Same thing happened to me. It took 3 RMA's in a row and about 60 days until they finally fixed it. They scratched it, too. OP, I highly recommend you start documenting everything. LG CS will also tell you escalating will get you nowhere; but with persistence you can get a hold of someone. You can only go up to a supervisor, and that's it. LG has specifically designed their CS (including their facebook and twitter) to contain and ignore you.
In less than 1 calendar year i am on my 3rd phone.. Figuring the 1st phone was a flop... serial numbers since my 1st phone are 511 and 505. So yeah.. im debating at what a ticking timebomb i havenow. The 3rd one came w/ MM installed but I downgraded to LL to keep root. Im sure it goes w/o saying that I'll not buy an LG phone ever again.. and this was my 1st one. They could offer to upgrade me to a G5, but honestly there are NO guarantees this sort of thing will happen again. You break trust you pay the price, look at Samsung w/ the no MicroSD card fiasco.
LG just accepted my 15 month old G4 for warranty repair
Even though my phone is 15 months old, LG has accepted it under warranty repair. When requesting repair I wrote that it was the bootloop issue but their repair confirmation states the issue is "No Power with Cable". I hope they fix the correct issue! BTW, my serial number began with 511
The US warranty is 18 months, so LG didn't do you any favors. I have three of these POS phones to get warranty repaired and hope they fix them correctly the first time.
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Even though my phone is 15 months old, LG has accepted it under warranty repair. When requesting repair I wrote that it was the bootloop issue but their repair confirmation states the issue is "No Power with Cable". I hope they fix the correct issue! BTW, my serial number began with 511
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I just got mine back today june 1st 2017, Sent G4 for bootloops 1st time a week ago. No power / Mainboard was replaced. it was purchased november 2015 and Serial number is 511 which is right after the supposed bad batch. I got the phone back in the same great condition it left. The repair guy reported phone condition has minor scratches when it doesn't, Not sure why he would report that. So far its working great, like a new phone. I can only hope this board has been redesigned to not fail under a year and a half, but thats just wishful thinking. Everything was completely free even though phone was like 5months+ after its warranty. Even though costumer service on phone sounded like she was doped out on crack and ignoring all my questions, it was still ez to do and I got it back fast. The IEMI number or whatever was also changed and they put a new sticker over top the old one under the battery. I tried checking the number on that website and it doesn't even have it registered so i can only hope its brand new.
Got a couple of VS986s back from bootloop warranty repair. Mainboards supposedly repaired, but IMEI stayed the same and nothing on label under battery changed . I recall other people mentioned changes to label information.
Last week a representative told me the current warranty on the G4 for this issue is 27 months from date of manufacture or 24 months from date of purchase.
Mine has S/N 508. It started bootlooping while I was pooping (browsing Facebook on Chrome browser) on June 5.
I attempted the hot-air rework station fix 5 times (for processor on mainboard), and that worked on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tries. Each time the phone worked for up to ~4 hours. On the 5th try the phone no longer booted or even showed the LG logo.
It's en-route to LG right now. I opted to ship it without battery or back cover (my back cover has a wireless charging tag).
Using my old Samsung Galaxy S3 running an AOSP-variant on 4.4.2. Actually isn't a bad phone.
My old LG G2's touchscreen no longer responds to touches on roughly 50% of the screen... can't even unlock it via pattern lock any more.
Thinking LG won't be the next new phone I buy...
Well, my G4 is on its way back to me after LG's warranty repair. Turn-around time at the LG service facility was ONE (1) DAY!! So that was super fast. Should get it tomorrow or the day after. Contemplating putting it back up for sale or trade-in though... it's basically gonna be a virgin device that will require root, xposed, restoring apps/messages/call log/etc., then adjusting everything else to my liking. Would be a shame to do all that work and then the bootlooping problem happens again.
Got mine April 1st. Worked great until May 9th. In the morning it hung and went into a boot loop. After 7 or so reboots (at various stages of boot cycle) it came back. A few hours later it did it again. This time 4 or 5 times and went dead. I tried battery pull, SD card/SIM card pull, and even swapped to my fully charged spare battery. It will not power on.
Called Sprint and they offered to sell me a used phone or fix it for a fee. Called LG. LG said they would take care of it but I would have to send in the phone for repairs and it would be about a 2 week turn around.
It's too bad because I really do like the phone but It'll take a while to regain my confidence in it...coupled with the locked boot loader...I don't know. It has the potential to be a great phone but LG may be shooting themselves in the foot.
Yeah I've had the same issue. For some reason sometimes it would get itself stuck in a boot loop. I would wonder like what the heck is going on... My camera also stopped working functionally and I couldn't make phone calls. I tried factory resetting it and issues were still there. I had to send in my phone which was super dumb... Not only is my phone not working but I have to be without it for like two weeks.
This used to happen with G3... I went back to Samsung. But now i got G5 and i havent had any problems.
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mkc90 said:
This used to happen with G3... I went back to Samsung. But now i got G5 and i havent had any problems.
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my boot loops all happened in the same area, my wife's work. First time when I dropped her off on my way to work and again when I picked her up on the way home. I've noticed before there's a spot where I get really bad reception in the driveway of work and the phone switches to 3G or worse. Both loops started when that occurred. It may have just been a coincidence...and I've certainly been other places with various degrees of worse reception...I was at a datacenter inside a faraday cage just the week before and didn't have any problems.
Since these phones can't be rooted yet I haven't done anything that any consumer wouldn't be able to do. I DID disable some services and installed adguard, but anyone can do that and none of it requires elevated privilege or voids the phone's warranty.
The status on the LG web site is now "repair in progress".
Fortunately I use GV so I can answer my calls and texts from any phone and just went back to my G3 while thr G5 is out for repairs.
Interestingly, when I called LG they didn't even ask me for details. They immediately said "send it back and we'll fix it". Either they have really good no-hassle customer service (they might, this is my first experience with LG customer service so I have no frame of reference) or this is more common than they let on and they know about it.
phone is on the way back. the fault on the repair order is listed as "power management IC".
Let's see what others with this problem get....if you sent your phone to LG for repairs the diagnosed problem will be listed on the email from LG notifying you the phone has been fixed. Looks like the PMIC problem was present in the G4 as well.
I wonder if there was a manufacturing defect in the first batch.
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phone is on the way back. the fault on the repair order is listed as "power management IC".
Let's see what others with this problem get....if you sent your phone to LG for repairs the diagnosed problem will be listed on the email from LG notifying you the phone has been fixed. Looks like the PMIC problem was present in the G4 as well.
I wonder if there was a manufacturing defect in the first batch.
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How long did it take LG to fix your phone once they received it? How long was it actually at LG before they shipped it back to you?
11 days
Guys its the g4 all over again the bootloop issues on g4 have been soaring over the last few months. Lg repairs. And it does it again.
Thats the exact issue on g4 ic power managment.
Apparantly over a year and still no fix
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phone is on the way back. the fault on the repair order is listed as "power management IC".
Let's see what others with this problem get....if you sent your phone to LG for repairs the diagnosed problem will be listed on the email from LG notifying you the phone has been fixed. Looks like the PMIC problem was present in the G4 as well.
I wonder if there was a manufacturing defect in the first batch.
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Nothin to do with first batch g4s even repair still doing it. They said any g4 aft sept 15 was good. Nope even more are looping everyday.
I haven't experienced this issue. I have had the screen ghosting issue, and my volume-down button just stopped working altogether a month ago. I've debated sending it in for repair, but I have been able to manage with the on screen controls. I really cannot go two weeks with no phone in my line of work.
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Woke up this morning and the wi-fi icon was blinking in the quick setting menu. Tried everything software wise and no fix, even factory reset. Assuming it's hardware, sent LG support an email and waiting to hear back. Seems others have had this issue when I googled it. Not sure how many H812 has this issue. Still within the 1 year warranty, will post back when LG responds. Bootloop issues now Wi-Fi issues...
For now I went back to my Xperia ZL ... I think my next phone I am going back to Sony.
If you had this issue, what model LG G4 ? Any Software fix ?
UPDATE: From LG
"Thank you for contacting LG regarding your LGH812.
We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you.
Regretfully this will require service. "
On the bright side they didn't fight me on it and replied very quickly.
Need to drop it off at my Carrier, and they will get it to LG for repairs.