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So I just noticed that you can purchase the Droid Turbo 2 direct from Motorola for $630 off contract, and I was wondering if this means it is also unlockable in terms of the bootloader? Such as the Moto X Pure Edition. I tried to get these answers from their online chat, but you know how that goes.....
One guy tried to tell me that it can't be unlocked because that would allow the phone to be used on other carriers lol. So basically no one I talk to knows what I'm talking about it seems.
It's the same phone you would get from Verizon. Exactly the same.
gabo_e30 said:
It's the same phone you would get from Verizon. Exactly the same.
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That's what I was afraid of lol. Honestly this phone is great, and I'm definitely considering it. I just wish it came with USB-C, a bigger screen and/or slimmer bezels, and a unlocked bootloader! It would then be the perfect device.
bb12489 said:
That's what I was afraid of lol. Honestly this phone is great, and I'm definitely considering it. I just wish it came with USB-C, a bigger screen and/or slimmer bezels, and a unlocked bootloader! It would then be the perfect device.
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And 4GB of RAM
And thinner
Guys we don't live in the year 2020 come on !!! Come back to the present.
Will the Moto X Force be able to be purchased at retail (presumably from overseas) and run on Verizon - that would be the corollary to this question in my mind.
kerrigjl said:
Will the Moto X Force be able to be purchased at retail (presumably from overseas) and run on Verizon - that would be the corollary to this question in my mind.
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I believe the force is missing the dreaded Verizon LTE Band 13
asuhoops8628 said:
I believe the force is missing the dreaded Verizon LTE Band 13
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Or at least marketed as not supporting LTE band 13. It may be possible to enable. Only experimentation will confirm.
d2kplus said:
Or at least marketed as not supporting LTE band 13. It may be possible to enable. Only experimentation will confirm.
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yeah, hoping that there is just a SW block on 13, but not holding my breath
asuhoops8628 said:
yeah, hoping that there is just a SW block on 13, but not holding my breath
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Yep, I haven't heard of band 13 being unlocked on Moto X Style or band 20 on Moto X Pure. So, I'm doubtful.
Hi togehther,
Im from germany and i think about to buy the droid turbo 2 through the US Motomaker. My Question is, does anyone know if this phone is than Global Unlocked (SIM) ? So i can use it in Germany without any problems?
Thank you for your help!
Guido
GuidoNexus said:
Hi togehther,
Im from germany and i think about to buy the droid turbo 2 through the US Motomaker. My Question is, does anyone know if this phone is than Global Unlocked (SIM) ? So i can use it in Germany without any problems?
Thank you for your help!
Guido
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I'm using this phone on T-Mobile, which is GSM network, w/o any issues. I'd assume you'll be OK using this phone as long as it's used on network it supports. You can check all supported bands on moto website.
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Okay that sounds good. And you bought ist from the US Motomaker?
GuidoNexus said:
Okay that sounds good. And you bought ist from the US Motomaker?
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Why not buy Moto X Force? Basically the same phone just for rest of the world?
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_force_preorders_start_in_the_uk-news-14817.php
Yes that is right. It's the same phone. But I have the first Droid and i would like that the word Droid is written on the back. And I think the Force will be more expensive at least a bit.
GuidoNexus said:
Yes that is right. It's the same phone. But I have the first Droid and i would like that the word Droid is written on the back. And I think the Force will be more expensive at least a bit.
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With Droid written on the back you'll end with Verizon device and probably no root or bootloader unlock. I would buy Force and back side for Droid
Okay ??
GuidoNexus said:
Okay ??
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i can provide the Moto x force from mexico for anyone who wants to use it on att and tmo also bootloader unlockable.
Jaocagomez said:
i can provide the Moto x force from mexico for anyone who wants to use it on att and tmo also bootloader unlockable.
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Are you sure about unlock of bootloader? Any link for how to?
And which LTE bands are supported by device from Mexico?
Zeljko1234 said:
Are you sure about unlock of bootloader? Any link for how to?
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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And which LTE bands are supported by device from Mexico?
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4G LTE (Cat 4)
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
Bandas
GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40)
Hello guys
i got the OP3 A3000. i got mine from the official website and its the American version.
ilive in Israel, and there for my device wont have a LTE band #3 like the European versions come with.
my question is, if ill install a Euro rom..would it include the missing LTE band?
* is the anyway other way to pass this issue or installing the missing band ?
thanks in advance.
Eli
Nope. The bands are defined outside of the rom, I'd assume in the modem configuration.
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Nope. The bands are defined outside of the rom, I'd assume in the modem configuration.
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is there anyway that i can install or activate that band on my phone ?
Unless you have the encryption keys to program the baseband...
There's a thread here where people have been trying to change bands without success.
My friend you should check if the phone has the band you need before you buy the phone.
A3000 model it's also for China region.
tl;dr - bands can't be changed
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Hi all I've been looking to buy a Lenovo P2 and have noticed there seems to be 2 different versions- the P2a42 and the P2c72. Whats the difference? They're not available where I live so need to import. Thanks for your help!
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Hi all I've been looking to buy a Lenovo P2 and have noticed there seems to be 2 different versions- the P2a42 and the P2c72. Whats the difference? They're not available where I live so need to import. Thanks for your help!
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I think that the P2c72 is 64GB for China but I might be wrong
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I think that the P2c72 is 64GB for China but I might be wrong
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Ah ok thanks. Are they identical apart from that? I really want to get one but i'm worried the china version won't get updates or will be missing all the google apps like play store etc.
Zven82 said:
Ah ok thanks. Are they identical apart from that? I really want to get one but i'm worried the china version won't get updates or will be missing all the google apps like play store etc.
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You would need to worry about the frequencies that both models are configured for. Typically Lenovo has CN and ROW (Rest Of World), and with my previous P780, I had to set a custom ROM to make it work as ROW using Europe frequencies for GSM.
I heard that for the P2, this is the differences between the models but I'm not sure...
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You would need to worry about the frequencies that both models are configured for. Typically Lenovo has CN and ROW (Rest Of World), and with my previous P780, I had to set a custom ROM to make it work as ROW using Europe frequencies for GSM.
I heard that for the P2, this is the differences between the models but I'm not sure...
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Awesome thanks. I've spoken to a supplier who has said they load the international rom on the phone- does that sound possible? And the 3G/4G bands are the same as the phone i'm using now so that's positive. Thanks for your help!
Hi, i live in europe and have bought p2c72 4GB/64GB variant, at first start i've check fw and it was p2c72 but when i put sim card and go by configure process fw has changed to p2a42 also i've get update to latest fw.
btw. on top of the phone between headphone jack and second microphone it says p2c72 and on the box of course.
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Hi, i live in europe and have bought p2c72 4GB/64GB variant, at first start i've check fw and it was p2c72 but when i put sim card and go by configure process fw has changed to p2a42 also i've get update to latest fw.
btw. on top of the phone between headphone jack and second microphone it says p2c72 and on the box of course.
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That's interesting, did the box look like it had been opened? The 4GB/64GB is the version i'm really looking for. Did it have google play etc when you first turned the phone on and did the initial setup? Thanks for your help!
Box was sealed with lenovo sticker's, on 1st boot i was curious about fw and apps that was installed so i skip initial setup and check fw and it was p7c72, google play was in it and few other google apps also some lenovo no chinese apps were installed so i switch off the phone and put simcard and microsd and boot the phone and make initial setup, after it was made i get notification about system update so i made it, after reboot i've go to check security patch i notice that fw version change to p2a42, lte works normal but i don't know how to check which band are used now so (don't know service codes for lenovo), on first battery drainage i made SOT of almost 12h where on my oneplus3 after nugat i get only 3,5 h to 4h max also i wonder if p2 gets nugat and how horrible battery life will be.
lokr said:
Box was sealed with lenovo sticker's, on 1st boot i was curious about fw and apps that was installed so i skip initial setup and check fw and it was p7c72, google play was in it and few other google apps also some lenovo no chinese apps were installed so i switch off the phone and put simcard and microsd and boot the phone and make initial setup, after it was made i get notification about system update so i made it, after reboot i've go to check security patch i notice that fw version change to p2a42, lte works normal but i don't know how to check which band are used now so (don't know service codes for lenovo), on first battery drainage i made SOT of almost 12h where on my oneplus3 after nugat i get only 3,5 h to 4h max also i wonder if p2 gets nugat and how horrible battery life will be.
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Does LTE Band 20 (800 MHz) work on your p2c72? I have bought one yesterday and updated OTA to P2a42_S062_170117_ROW but LTE doesn't seem to work except from shopping mall, where LTE works on Band 3 (1800 MHz).
baobab007 said:
Does LTE Band 20 (800 MHz) work on your p2c72? I have bought one yesterday and updated OTA to P2a42_S062_170117_ROW but LTE doesn't seem to work except from shopping mall, where LTE works on Band 3 (1800 MHz).
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I don't know how to check which band are used by phone, but LTE work as it schould be, also wcdma works. How to check it?
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I don't know how to check which band are used by phone, but LTE work as it schould be, also wcdma works. How to check it?
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Try downloading "Network Signal Guru" app from the Google Play store.
This app should be able to display it. If you take a look at the screenshots, it shows LTE Band, which should read "B20 | 800 MHz" in the most of Europe I guess. At least in rural areas, which are usually covered with lower frequencies.
BTW, this app should also be able to display all supported LTE Bands (check the screenshots). It would be most helpful, if you could check it as well.
EDIT: Maybe even simpler is to use "SignalCheck Lite" app from Play store.
baobab007 said:
Try downloading "Network Signal Guru" app from the Google Play store.
This app should be able to display it. If you take a look at the screenshots, it shows LTE Band, which should read "B20 | 800 MHz" in the most of Europe I guess. At least in rural areas, which are usually covered with lower frequencies.
BTW, this app should also be able to display all supported LTE Bands (check the screenshots). It would be most helpful, if you could check it as well.
EDIT: Maybe even simpler is to use "SignalCheck Lite" app from Play store.
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Network Signal Guru shows only LTE/LTE, second one also show only LTE and signal info no word about which band is used.
Added screenshots
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OK, thanks. It's hard to tell, which band is actually used. But it's great, that your phone actually works with LTE. Could you possibly share, where have you bought it?
I bought the P2c72 and it has a chinese ROM. It comes with a dual SIM and 64GB. Would anyone know if it is possible to apply the P2a42 ROM to the device?
Laubscherc said:
I bought the P2c72 and it has a chinese ROM. It comes with a dual SIM and 64GB. Would anyone know if it is possible to apply the P2a42 ROM to the device?
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i heard somewhere that Updating with Official OTA changed ROM version to P2a42
give a try , if you receive any update :highfive:
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I don't know how to check which band are used by phone, but LTE work as it schould be, also wcdma works. How to check it?
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Can you please tell me whether "Motorola Mobility LLC" is written on the back or not?
On back I only have Lenovo brand and nfc mark.
Hello everyone. I have a rooted Pixel XL on 7.1.1.
I can use the Network Signal Guru app to see the available bands but the locking option is disabled.
The internet told me to go to Engineering/Service Mode/Menu. The app Shortcut Manager Lite shows no such thing. I REALLY want to lock my band to a certain one as my phone always decides to choose the slow one. It's easy on Samsung phone or so I've heard. Did Google block this?
I don't mean the LTE only or CDMA/GSM selection. I mean the specific LTE bands. (For eg. 5,40) No Verizon. International unblocked version.
Cheers. Thanks.
Bump?
Also fun fact, my parents call the Pixel XL The Megapixel. Hehe.
Sorry for bumping.
Had the same issue with the Nexus 6P even after trying different radio versions with Cyanogenmod 13 and Android 7.1.X stock. On the Nexus 5X I didn't have any problems accessing the band locking option but I found this to resolve the issue on the Nexus 6P: http://www.trona-tech.net/network-signal-guru-on-nexus-6p/
I had to flash the "Engineering Radio" that I found using that link...perhaps one needs to flash the equivalent "Engineering Radio" on the Pixel to enable band locking with Network Signal Guru?
If you flash a custom ROM you can get band locking.
Fyi, on one of the official XL builds I was able to do the locking in that app. Haven't been able to in any of the last few builds. I told the developer but he wanted me to test and find what build/radio it was but I ain't got time for that.
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If you flash a custom ROM you can get band locking.
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Thank you so much!!!
I finally got Pure Nexus and can lock bands prefectly!
Again, Thanks a lot!
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Fyi, on one of the official XL builds I was able to do the locking in that app. Haven't been able to in any of the last few builds. I told the developer but he wanted me to test and find what build/radio it was but I ain't got time for that.
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What a useful post.
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What a useful post.
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Lol it's not useful to know that it worked at one point on a stock rom build? You must not be very bright.
s1dest3pnate said:
Lol it's not useful to know that it worked at one point on a stock rom build? You must not be very bright.
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More the fact a developer volunteered to resolve the problem and asked you for some information and you refused to help. You're the worst kind of user.
Great point. So all of us on this forum aren't using our phones as daily drivers and are willing and able to spend hours to flash various builds and radios and do testing and increase risk of bricking?
There are different levels of users on this forum you know.
ASimpleSock said:
Thank you so much!!!
I finally got Pure Nexus and can lock bands prefectly!
Again, Thanks a lot!
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Great to hear! If you don't mind can you share your:
1) PureNexus Version
2) Radio/Baseband Version (perhaps the same radio from 7.1.1 stock?)
3) That you're still using the free version of Network Signal Guru you lock LTE bands?
Thanks!
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Great to hear! If you don't mind can you share your:
1) PureNexus Version
2) Radio/Baseband Version (perhaps the same radio from 7.1.1 stock?)
3) That you're still using the free version of Network Signal Guru you lock LTE bands?
Thanks!
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Just see the screenshot.
1) 7.1.1-20170317-OFFICIAL
2) I got tired typing it. Find it in the image.
3) Yes I'm still using the free version from the Play Store.
Cheers!
Update.
I was in contact with NSG developer, he shared with me RC build, I tested and worked great.
And now update in Play Store ?
Band locking working great out of the box ??
mr-tical said:
Update.
I was in contact with NSG developer, he shared with me RC build, I tested and worked great.
And now update in Play Store
Band locking working great out of the box
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When you say out of the box, you mean not rooted, right? If so, could you share the app? I really want to lock bands but don't want to root. Any other tips/feedback/suggestions would be appreciated!
mr-tical said:
Update.
I was in contact with NSG developer, he shared with me RC build, I tested and worked great.
And now update in Play Store ?
Band locking working great out of the box ??
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Yes could you please share more info...are you using this app on stock rooted 8.1? Name of app? And would you happen to know what are the preferred bands? I'm on metro pcs using a tmobile apn if that matters...
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Out of the box, I mean install application and that's all
Not needed flashing modified radio.img etc..
Network Signal Guru, available in Play Store.
I'm rooted, stock 8.1, all working fine.
Which bands I prefer? It depends on the carrier and country.
Here in Poland (and probably most EU country's) LTE bands are 3, 7, 8, 20.
And the better band is the one that is less loaded and on which I have better speeds.
Just test it.
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mr-tical said:
Out of the box, I mean install application and that's all
Not needed flashing modified radio.img etc..
Network Signal Guru, available in Play Store.
I'm rooted, stock 8.1, all working fine.
Which bands I prefer? It depends on the carrier and country.
Here in Poland (and probably most EU country's) LTE bands are 3, 7, 8, 20.
And the better band is the one that is less loaded and on which I have better speeds.
Just test it.
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Awesome...I hope someone chimes in and tells me the magic bands for my situation..the screenshots from that app look very confusing..if all else fails there's Google I reckon..
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AP2FTW said:
Awesome...I hope someone chimes in and tells me the magic bands for my situation..the screenshots from that app look very confusing..if all else fails there's Google I reckon..
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Look..You're in US so you need to look for US band on T-Mobile.
I've found this article:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
Based on this, T-Mobile US bands are 2, 4, 12, 66, 71**
**Rolling out in 2017.
T-Mobile
Finally, T-Mobile has been the loudest and arguably the fastest growing 4G LTE network, especially in the big cities.
2017 Update: T-Mobile has won a big 30MHz chunk of spectrum in an auction held this summer. The frequencies that it is now allowed to operate are in the low-band, 600MHz band, and are referred to as 4G LTE band 71. The new band 71 is rolling out to cities in Wyoming, Northwest Oregon, West Texas, Southwest Kansas, the Oklahoma panhandle, Western North Dakota, Maine, Coastal North Carolina, Central Pennsylvania, Central Virginia and Eastern Washington by the end of 2017. This is expected to boost its coverage by 6 million people to a total of 321 million Americans.
Currently, T-Mobile's main band is still band 4 (AWS) in the 1700 MHz range. Band 2 is used in markets where band 4 is not available, but the two are also aggregated for better coverage in markets, where both are available.
Band 12, on the other hand, is where a lot of T-Mobile's growth happens. While at the beginning of the roll-out in late 2014, few phones supported band 12, currently, most popular phones do and the increased penetration of the lower-frequency band makes it preferable.
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But, I don't know if this tech spec is current.
Someone else from T-Mobile US need to confirm.
For example EU bands are not current, because based on this, in Poland we have bands 3, 7, 20 (1800, 2600, 800) but we stating to use LTE900 (band8) and also slowly starting LTE2100 (I don't remember which band it is).
So best for you is to test downloads speeds on your every band, just uncheck all in Network Signal Guru, leave only one, save and test download speed with some speed test app, back to NSG, select different band, save and test again and again and again...
Look for best band for your needs.
It does exist a Global model for mi6?
A global ROM hast he band 20?
Not at this time. Perhaps in future but it's unlikely as they reveal MI6 for taiwan and it wasn't a global version.
Absalom34 said:
It does exist a Global model for mi6?
A global ROM hast he band 20?
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Yes it exist, but it doesn´t have B20. Only European charger and english box:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...32810995086.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.Yl3jks
https://www.spemall.com/Xiaomi-Mi-6...ixels-Snapdragon-835-Octa-Core-2-45GHz_g.html
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
kolembo said:
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
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Do you mean that with a global ROOM you have got the 800 mhgz band?
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Do you mean that with a global ROOM you have got the 800 mhgz band?
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Read please.
Would band 4 work in the USA?
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kolembo said:
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
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Does the official global rom come with Google Play installed, or does it still need to be added?
Also, can you download and play movies from Google Play, or use the download feature on Netflix? Neither of those work on my Mi4C.
This is the only thing holding me back from ordering a Mi6. Really hoping that stuff works, since the Mi6 is not China-only like the Mi4C.
Enjoying it so far?
anyone know if this would work in the usa on gsm sais it supports band 4....http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Offi...-Mi-6-6GB-64GB-Smartphone---Black-379852.html
The global rom have all Google services.
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Does the official global rom come with Google Play installed, or does it still need to be added?
Also, can you download and play movies from Google Play, or use the download feature on Netflix? Neither of those work on my Mi4C.
This is the only thing holding me back from ordering a Mi6. Really hoping that stuff works, since the Mi6 is not China-only like the Mi4C.
Enjoying it so far?
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I now the answer,,, Global version means,, different modem and antenna.plus different charger etc. Global Rom means no B20, only multilanguajes an some different features
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no B20
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But does this actually matter if, for example, on EE in the UK you get 4g via other bands too... so would it actually make a difference?
Curious if anyone here has tried it on EE in the UK?
fredphoesh said:
But does this actually matter if, for example, on EE in the UK you get 4g via other bands too... so would it actually make a difference?
Curious if anyone here has tried it on EE in the UK?
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I believe EE doesn't use band 20, so it's golden.
I come from a Moto X 2014. I'm on three and I've had LTE coverage everywhere I went. Mind you, I'm in London and if I venture into the country I might not get LTE there, as band 20 is also used by three, possibly in less populated areas.
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I believe EE doesn't use band 20, so it's golden.
I come from a Moto X 2014. I'm on three and I've had LTE coverage everywhere I went. Mind you, I'm in London and if I venture into the country I might not get LTE there, as band 20 is also used by three, possibly in less populated areas.
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Hi, thanks... I hope so, I want to get one for my wife... This site says EE do use band 20, but not exclusively, so I don't know if it is a regional thing, different bands working in different areas or what. https://willmyphonework.net
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