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Pixel XL or keep Note 7

HAD a Note 7 which is as we all know best in class for camera, water resistance but despite being a PhoneAholic can't decide whether or not to go for Pixel XL..had every Nexus device and sometimes miss extra features that Samsung provide...but then HATE their slow firmware update schedule....decisions decisions !
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Im right there with you. Just got me replace Note and I love this phone but the promise of the bleeding edge is calling me toward the pixel xl.
My decision is going to be based on two items.
1. What's the rear glass for?
2. Is that display pressure sensitive?

My guess is the purpose of the glass is the same as the 6p....it's just to transmit the antenna signals and data and stuff. The screen being pressure sensitive was a rumor I heard a while back but nothing more since then....so my guess is it won't have it. I also heard that the fingerprint sensor was supposed to have gesture control.....but that rumor mill has been silent too.....so I'll assume it won't have that either.

The pressure sensitive display rumor is alive and well. The pixel launcher tear down shows icons with an api for what's called quick actions.
I'm hoping the rear glass is for either wireless charging or a touch panel
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jackdforme said:
The pressure sensitive display rumor is alive and well. The pixel launcher tear down shows icons with an api for what's called quick actions.
I'm hoping the rear glass is for either wireless charging or a touch panel
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I think it's just the fingerprint scanner that can detect gestures: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...fication-shade-gesture-coming-on-new-nexuses/
Wireless charging would be great. I was really disappointed not having it in the current nexus line.

ts-apps said:
I think it's just the fingerprint scanner that can detect gestures: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...fication-shade-gesture-coming-on-new-nexuses/
Wireless charging would be great. I was really disappointed not having it in the current nexus line.
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Still wouldn't need an entire rear glass for that.

Rear glass: wireless charging capabilities and antenna or a second display? Who knows?!
I really want to see if it can be a monocrome second display. It could be awesome. It can be used for notifications or something else!
I don't think, for now, it worth changing...

jackdforme said:
Im right there with you. Just got me replace Note and I love this phone but the promise of the bleeding edge is calling me toward the pixel xl.
My decision is going to be based on two items.
1. What's the rear glass for?
2. Is that display pressure sensitive?
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pixel xl if you can afford it
why not glass glass is for better protection then plastic
idk

Stick with the Note 7 for a few months and then if people love the XL pick one up.

As long as the note is exynos then note all the way...not even a fair comparison.
If its a snapdragon note then pixel....thats also an easy choice.
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This lag is killing me!! Battery isn't so great either. Might have to bust a move over to the pixel. 6P was a great phone. Not a big fan of HTC thought.
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Same boat here, haven't got my Note7 yet as its backordered, I can get it for free since I'm on a corporate plan or pay for the Pixel XL, not sure if its worth it though...

nvm

No sdcard , 2.0f camera (bad lowlight performance), not water resistant...
And historically mediocre to poor build quality. Does not seem too enticing.
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If you want Project Fi then go Pixel.
If you want to flash various cool ROM's then go Pixel.
If neither, then Note 7 all the way.
I answer "yes" to both questions, so I'm very interested in the Pixel depending on how well it reviews.

CZ Eddie said:
If you want Project Fi then go Pixel.
If you want to flash various cool ROM's then go Pixel.
If neither, then Note 7 all the way.
I answer "yes" to both questions, so I'm very interested in the Pixel depending on how well it reviews.
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Do you really think the pixel xl will be community friendly? I imagine a lot of those exclusive features won't be portable over to custom Roms. Just saying. And their a lot of their optimizations also.

scapeinator1 said:
Do you really think the pixel xl will be community friendly? I imagine a lot of those exclusive features won't be portable over to custom Roms. Just saying. And their a lot of their optimizations also.
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Who cares about exclusive "features". Not me anyways.
I would be shocked if there is not huge ROM development for the Pixel within just a week after the phones ship.

CZ Eddie said:
If you want Project Fi then go Pixel.
If you want to flash various cool ROM's then go Pixel.
If neither, then Note 7 all the way.
I answer "yes" to both questions, so I'm very interested in the Pixel depending on how well it reviews.
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For $1200 CAN and not offering. Sd support or 256gb of internal storage.. stereo speakers... a bigger screen than 5.5...waterproofing etc....they can keep the pixel .
They are out of their minds charging that much for so little lol...
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Love flashing Roms. And the latest software. But I don't see how this phone is just as much as an iPhone or a note 7. Should be few hundreds less in my opinion. Note 7 here I come. Maybe I'll get a cheap Nexus 5x for my flashing addiction.

Mate, even I'm keeping my Nexus 6

Battery size ?

They were rumors of a giant battery going into the next OnePlus phone 4,000mAh. But I haven't heard anything about that recently. And if the 5t is matching the Oppo phone, it most likely will just have a small 3,200mAh battery.
Any updates.

Nothing concrete yet. But if you look at the 3/3T, the battery increased from 3Amp to 3.4Amp.

I heard it will get the same batterysize than pixel 2 xl (3520mAh) which would be good but not great. 4000mAh would be insane.
Cant decide between Pixel 2 xl and upcoming OP5t at the moment ^^

Redrockzz said:
I heard it will get the same batterysize than pixel 2 xl (3520mAh) which would be good but not great. 4000mAh would be insane.
Cant decide between Pixel 2 xl and upcoming OP5t at the moment ^^
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It would be crazy if they matched the Razer in size, but I doubt it. 3500 sounds more likely.
After seeing how mediocre the screen quality is on the 2 XL (and horrible blue shift), it's completely out of the running for me.

Redrockzz said:
I heard it will get the same batterysize than pixel 2 xl (3520mAh) which would be good but not great. 4000mAh would be insane.
Cant decide between Pixel 2 xl and upcoming OP5t at the moment ^^
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After owning the op5, op3 and p2xl, if you like the speed of oneplus devices, stable twrp, and the multi-tasking abilities... Then stick to oneplus. If you want amazing camera, good speakers, fast updates, but crappy memory management, get pixel..
They are both fantastic devices.. But I miss the smoothness of my oneplus devices.

Redrockzz said:
I heard it will get the same batterysize than pixel 2 xl (3520mAh) which would be good but not great. 4000mAh would be insane.
Cant decide between Pixel 2 xl and upcoming OP5t at the moment ^^
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The thing im happy with is getting rid of the front fingerprint scanner and on-screen buttons this will be my first op device i use as a dd

MrWilsonxD said:
After owning the op5, op3 and p2xl, if you like the speed of oneplus devices, stable twrp, and the multi-tasking abilities... Then stick to oneplus. If you want amazing camera, good speakers, fast updates, but crappy memory management, get pixel..
They are both fantastic devices.. But I miss the smoothness of my oneplus devices.
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yas if the op5t is at least 3500mah and more RAM. Thats what im going with to get me out of this s8 curved screen nightmare even tho it was free. I could care less about a camera I grew up in an era where the camera on the nexus was eh at best. For me as long as it takes good pictures of documents etc im happy. If i wanna take real pictures I use a real camera.

Dreamlogix said:
yas if the op5t is at least 3500mah and more RAM. Thats what im going with to get me out of this s8 curved screen nightmare even tho it was free. I could care less about a camera I grew up in an era where the camera on the nexus was eh at best. For me as long as it takes good pictures of documents etc im happy. If i wanna take real pictures I use a real camera.
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More RAM!?! Are you freaking seriou-
You know what Sure, why the hell not! I prefer the comfort of "more than I'll ever need" and laughing at all the people who said 3GB of ??? was overkill.

MrWilsonxD said:
After owning the op5, op3 and p2xl, if you like the speed of oneplus devices, stable twrp, and the multi-tasking abilities... Then stick to oneplus. If you want amazing camera, good speakers, fast updates, but crappy memory management, get pixel..
They are both fantastic devices.. But I miss the smoothness of my oneplus devices.
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MrWilsonxD said:
More RAM!?! Are you freaking seriou-
You know what Sure, why the hell not! I prefer the comfort of "more than I'll ever need" and laughing at all the people who said 3GB of was overkill.
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Muhahahah yasssss hey coming from the nexus 9 that is what really messed up the experience that lack of memory. I like to have future proof-ish devices as i still rock my nexus 9 and wish it had more memory everytime I use it.

Dreamlogix said:
Muhahahah yasssss hey coming from the nexus 9 that is what really messed up the experience that lack of memory. I like to have future proof-ish devices as i still rock my nexus 9 and wish it had more memory everytime I use it.
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The exact same way I feel about my note pro 12.2 and chromebook plus... The more ram and battery, the better.

Confirmed 3300mah same as op5

Redrockzz said:
Cant decide between Pixel 2 xl and upcoming OP5t at the moment ^^
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I have the same dilema. LG V30 is also on that list.
We need to wait for OnePlus 5T launch and compare again.

Is it really worth buying a google pixel 2 XL?

I'm with a huge doubt, which one to buy? an OP5T or a GP 2 XL, what I most want is to have a good battery life. But I've been thinking and looking for forums for 3 days but I do not decide. I would be very grateful for your answers and recommendations.

MegaBabu said:
I'm with a huge doubt, which one to buy? an OP5T or a GP 2 XL, what I most want is to have a good battery life. But I've been thinking and looking for forums for 3 days but I do not decide. I would be very grateful for your answers and recommendations.
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I have the note 8 and the pixel 2 xl { just recieved}
For you it's what's in your budget.
The pixel can be double the cost of the op5t.
I wanted the pixel for the stock andriod experience, camera, and speakers.
My note has wayyy better features but I like the simplicity of the pixel 2 xl
Op5t is the most practical

Don't forget the camera. Pixel 2 has the best camera.

rfuser said:
I have the note 8 and the pixel 2 xl { just recieved}
For you it's what's in your budget.
The pixel can be double the cost of the op5t.
I wanted the pixel for the stock andriod experience, camera, and speakers.
My note has wayyy better features but I like the simplicity of the pixel 2 xl
Op5t is the most practical
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I come from an S7 so if I go for the OP5T I would miss the camera, but I am willing to live without a good camera, but I want a good battery life. Pixel 2 XL has a higher percentage of battery but I do not know if it will be enough to be better than the OP5T in battery.

Zorachus said:
Don't forget the camera. Pixel 2 has the best camera.
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Well, I almost do not care much about the camera for now, I think I'll decide for the one with the longest battery life.

MegaBabu said:
Well, I almost do not care much about the camera for now, I think I'll decide for the one with the longest battery life.
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Most of the new Android phones with SD835 get great battery life. I had the LG V30, and holy cow that thing got off the charts outstanding battery life. Best I've ever had, like 9h Screen On time. And I heard the S8+, OPO5, and other phones also got great battery. I would think the Pixel 2 XL will get slightly better battery life than the 5t

MegaBabu said:
Well, I almost do not care much about the camera for now, I think I'll decide for the one with the longest battery life.
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I struggled with buying the 2xl for several weeks. I am really happy with it and glad I went with it. I thought the same thing about the camera but my mind has changed big time! A REALLY good camera.
JMO

I've just picked up a 2 XL and I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it or not, what I really like is the camera and the speakers, the size, the build, what I don't like is the software (let me explain) I love the smoothness and speed and stock android, what I don't like is Google have gone a bit like apple, you can't even change the font without root (from what I understand only had the phone a day so not 100% on that ) coming from a U11 I'm already missing the theme store and the customisation that offers, so its left me in a dilemma to keep this phone or not, really tempted to send it back and get a U11 plus, but man it's buttery smooth and the battery life seems amazing I've used it a lot today...
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$400 trade in for my Pixel XL, $325 to activate on T-Mobile, a free Google Home Mini....worth it to me.....abso$#%^inglutely! :good::highfive:

I'm on the fence pixel 2 xl or s9+

Ive been a Samsung user since the first one and haven't tried anything else. Im currently using the s8+ and I upgrade every year and am getting my new phone on Wednesday of next week. Just not sure which one. Any of you former Samsung users have any honest opinions on this matter.
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bill10 said:
Ive been a Samsung user since the first one and haven't tried anything else. Im currently using the s8+ and I upgrade every year and am getting my new phone on Wednesday of next week. Just not sure which one. Any of you former Samsung users have any honest opinions on this matter.
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If your a stock user, like TW UI, very good build and screen quality, not going to root or mod it, then get the 9. If you like a simple, very functional and fast UI, great speed and smoothness, wicked timely updates, and wanting to root and mod it, then get the P2XL. I was a Sammy user for years as well. Had the S3,4,5 and N4, then got the nexus 6p, and now the P2XL and have been having a blast. Don't get me wrong, Sammy makes a great product, it's just not to my liking since I like rooting, modding, and having the latest builds available. There's my 2 pennies worth ??

Badger50 said:
If your a stock user, like TW UI, very good build and screen quality, not going to root or mod it, then get the 9. If you like a simple, very functional and fast UI, great speed and smoothness, wicked timely updates, and wanting to root and mod it, then get the P2XL. I was a Sammy user for years as well. Had the S3,4,5 and N4, then got the nexus 6p, and now the P2XL and have been having a blast. Don't get me wrong, Sammy makes a great product, it's just not to my liking since I like rooting, modding, and having the latest builds available. There's my 2 pennies worth [emoji16][emoji41]
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Thats somewhat what I was thinking. I always rooted my phones but Sammy has for the most part put a stop to that. Thanks for the imput
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bill10 said:
Ive been a Samsung user since the first one and haven't tried anything else. Im currently using the s8+ and I upgrade every year and am getting my new phone on Wednesday of next week. Just not sure which one. Any of you former Samsung users have any honest opinions on this matter.
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I used the S8+ from Nov through February before switching it out for the Pixel 2 XL. The S8+ was a great device but the fact it is so locked down is a deal breaker. This phone is phenomenal and I sought advice here before switching and received similar advice. If you're into tinkering, front facing stereo speakers and timely updates then this is your device.

I had the S3 and S5 and guess what I did with them. I would root and flash whatever popular vanilla-like Android ROM was out. I've heard good things with S8 and on but I really preferred my Nexus 5X and went with the Pixel 2 XL last fall. No regrets.

Thanks guys. About warranty and root. Is there any issues with returning back to stock and if not is warranty still covered
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bill10 said:
Thats somewhat what I was thinking. I always rooted my phones but Sammy has for the most part put a stop to that. Thanks for the imput
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If you do go the Pixel route then don't get it from VZ, or Best Buy or Target...or any of the retailers. They won't be unlockable. Get the Google version directly bfrom Google.

TonikJDK said:
If you do go the Pixel route then don't get it from VZ, or Best Buy or Target...or any of the retailers. They won't be unlockable. Get the Google version directly bfrom Google.
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I got mine through bell canada
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bill10 said:
Thanks guys. About warranty and root. Is there any issues with returning back to stock and if not is warranty still covered
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If you get the Google version (and you should!) Unlocking the bootloader and returning to stock is a piece of cake. And, unlocking the bootloader does NOT void your warranty ??

bill10 said:
I got mine through bell canada
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Pretty sure those are bootloader unlocked, just confirm it before you buy. I am not 100 percent on that.

I'm fairly certain all carriers in Canada are Google, factory unlocked versions.
I bought my OG Pixel XL from Rogers, even though I'm with Fido (Fido was out of stock). And my SIM worked fine, and I was able to unlock the bootloader.

A phone is only as good as the software is. I had so many phones that looked good from the specifications but were useless because of the software; the LG V20 was a disaster for example. The S9+ is a great piece of hardware with a crap of Samsung bloat software. I had the S8+ and I hated it. . The Pixel has some hardware weaknesses but the software compensates for that.

Get off the fence, and try out the badboy Pixel XL 2!

Ordered it and it is on its way!!!
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bill10 said:
Ordered it and it is on its way!!!
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Congrats! Enjoy the Pixel XL 2 XDA fun sections!

galaxys said:
Congrats! Enjoy the Pixel XL 2 XDA fun sections!
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I will. Can't wait to root again. Good bye Samsung!
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Wait for the 10. I have a pixel 2 XL. The Samsung screens are much better and brighter, but the s8 and s9 are very similar. The only issue is the bootloader... You could buy an Exynos version if your are on T Mobile..

State.of.mind said:
Wait for the 10. I have a pixel 2 XL. The Samsung screens are much better and brighter, but the s8 and s9 are very similar. The only issue is the bootloader... You could buy an Exynos version if your are on T Mobile..
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I upgrade every 8-12 months so if I'm not happy with the 2 xl I will be going back to Samsung
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Having owned both phones and currently using s9 plus, I can tell you it's down to personal preference.
S9 plus for it's design colour combination, build quality, better more vibrant screen, camera and better hardware.
Pixel for it's software, camera!
I have more gripes with pixel then s9 plus. S9 is the smoothest Samsung to date. Less lag and flatter ui but I use Evie launcher as that has plenty of customisation
Pixel build quality is POOR no 2 ways about it and more hardware issues.
Speakers on pixel are brilliant and more xda support, if you like that sort of thing. Also you can pickup second hand for a good price.

riz157 said:
Having owned both phones and currently using s9 plus, I can tell you it's down to personal preference.
S9 plus for it's design colour combination, build quality, better more vibrant screen, camera and better hardware.
Pixel for it's software, camera!
I have more gripes with pixel then s9 plus. S9 is the smoothest Samsung to date. Less lag and flatter ui but I use Evie launcher as that has plenty of customisation
Pixel build quality is POOR no 2 ways about it and more hardware issues.
Speakers on pixel are brilliant and more xda support, if you like that sort of thing. Also you can pickup second hand for a good price.
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People always say the galaxies have better screens but to be honest, aside from brightness, I find Samsung screens to be poor.
I have 2 note 8's sitting here, which have multicolour shift when you shift it off angle, and one of them has a decidedly pink hue to the whites. This is not uncommon and I've seen it on the S9+ I tried as well. Also there is the light reflection running along the top and bottom edge of the curved screens ruining video content.
For me its this, Galaxies have bright screens, the S9+ has great speakers, the galaxies also have better battery life, but the Pixel 2 XL has much better cameras, and smoother software. Yes the screen has burn in and the top speaker is annoyingly quieter than the bottom...

Can't find any phone to replace

Hi pixel users,
I want to learn if you are having same thoughts like me. I want to replace my 2017 pixel 2xl but never convinced by any brand that is real update. Google camera( only photo not video) always makes me stick with my device. Pixel 3xl was never upgrade when it first released. Oneplus 7 is still behind when competing the camera. Pixel 4 will be bazel king still and it is not sold in my country Turkey. Galaxy phones are always washed out camera and bad battery with exynos. Huavei having problem with Google so hard to trust. So another year with pixel 2xl probably.

I've had similar conclusion. Pixel 3 - ugly, Pixel 4 - looks like it's gonna be ugly too. OnePlus phones are the closest competitors in my eyes with their clean software and continued long Android updates, but camera still isn't on Pixel level and water and ingress protection isn't IP certified. Samsung's software isn't for me and their update cycle is terrible.
So Pixel 2 for my wife and Pixel 2 XL for me are still one of best phones out there for us, while it's getting Android updates I won't be changing them soon.
These of course are subjective thoughts.
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I'm waiting for the OnePlus 7T, should be released around Thanksgiving

Same here. I thought I might have gotten the Pixel 4 but the 2 XL has just been too perfect for me to think about updating.

Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go

I need good camera, so only pixel, samsung or Huawei. I tired of big phones, so thinking about s10e. People talks what oneUI is good and clean like stock and I like what s10e has flat sreen.
I like, what 1.5 year old pixel is fast like new.

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Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go
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I agree with that!

I wish everyone would stop making tall skinny phones already. I love my 2xl performance wise, but sorely miss my Nexus 6 screen. That was the PERFECT size phone. It's bezels are close in size to the 2xl. If only the guts were easily swapped between the two of them!

knightsh said:
I wish everyone would stop making tall skinny phones already. I love my 2xl performance wise, but sorely miss my Nexus 6 screen. That was the PERFECT size phone. It's bezels are close in size to the 2xl. If only the guts were easily swapped between the two of them!
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While I love my P2XL and 3aXL, I would get behind an updated Nexus 6 in a heartbeat! Next to the HTC M7, the Nexus 6 was my absolute favorite device. Would love to get that phone's body with upgraded internals (really wish it was possible to update your device to newer hardware without changing the outside).

paulyz said:
I need good camera, so only pixel, samsung or Huawei. I tired of big phones, so thinking about s10e. People talks what oneUI is good and clean like stock and I like what s10e has flat sreen.
I like, what 1.5 year old pixel is fast like new.
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I thought to buy one but battery and camera performance is worse then pixel trust me. Size is perfect but has some disadvantages. It ıs also important which region you are from. SD is a lot better than exynos.

Hazzay88 said:
Pixel 4 XL would be the way to go
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I really think that it will be future proof but bezels is making me think and the worst part is the region. It is not sold in my country Turkey. I have a bit hope for this year. They may start selling because 3a and 3axl are great alternatives for Turkish market. I would probably go for pixel 4 if I can.

kemalcenk said:
I thought to buy one but battery and camera performance is worse then pixel trust me. Size is perfect but has some disadvantages. It ıs also important which region you are from. SD is a lot better than exynos.
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Camera will be ok, I had samsung top line and I know Samsung's camera.
Yes battery worse, that's main disvadvantage for me.

AndrasLOHF said:
Same here. I thought I might have gotten the Pixel 4 but the 2 XL has just been too perfect for me to think about updating.
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I'm starting to see a lot of these opinions about the 2xl. Mine has been one of the best phones I've owned. Oneplus 7 pro or pixel 4 are the only phones I would consider.