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So i am switching from my 2 year old meizu m2 note to mi a1 and i have some questions. I am familiar with stock android because i have the pixel c tablet but i know that xiaomi included some of its apps. Is it possible to find a similiar app lock like meizu's or xiaomi's(i know that they are built in the skin(MUI, Flyme)) and meizu's vault(secure folder) part? Thanks
You can use third party apps for the same functions.. thats how it is with stock android, u have to use 3rd oarty apps for most functions that r present on non-stock roms.
For app lock i recommend this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity
I found it to be reliable and quite fast on my athene as well as tissot.
As for the secret vault i don't use it but have used this app in the past without many issues and it is also probably the most popular
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kii.safe
Hope it helps:good:
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
ttlee1990 said:
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
Valaran said:
here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
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Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
ttlee1990 said:
Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
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Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
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Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
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Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
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Yes it will be MIUI-based and only MIUI ROMs have those gestures. And I think that the Global version collects little to no data, as there would be a huge public outcry if the Global version collected data and that would probably damage their international reputation a lot, which all chinese companies fear AND the chinese govt fear.
ttlee1990 said:
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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That's what I thought too?
ttlee1990 said:
Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
Twotems said:
I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Echoing previous posts, you're being overly paranoid. Miui allows you to choose every permission and also allows you to block internet access for all apps. As for what the rom developer uploads you're at their mercy but that' will always be the case if you want updates and security patches. Given the popularity of miui I've never heard of anything untoward hidden in the rom. To sum it up, you want a smartphone with the usability of a feature phone.
Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
Jerky_san said:
This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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#_# Thank god.. for a little there I was scared lol. Never bought a china phone before but this phone looks absolutely amazing.. Have a friend coming back from China tmrw so asked them to pick it up for me before they left and they got me the last one in the store that was 8/256gb. Honestly I'm really hoping for a bootloader unlock and linage OS.. I've come to really love their flavor.
Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. Yes there may be a few things you will need to do, because in China they have banned Google and Google Play. These things will need to be installed manually. Hopefully with Android 9 they've made it easier, not harder than previous years.
After installing the Play Store are you good to go then in terms of being able to install whatever you want (Google suite, traditional apps, etc.)?
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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I had just talk with italian store that sell the chinese version and there are these problems written above
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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piskr said:
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
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https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu/index.aspx?pageid=1748191&prodid=19236868
(I could be wrong) ... but the shop does not look very reputable,
and it's only 20 euros cheaper than Cect-shop.com
Speaking from my own experience. Usually I installed the Google suite from their brands own app store
They have a specific application that installs the framework, Google contact, play services, play store and maybe a couple more services.
After that pretty much everything works. I'll update more when I got my phone.
I can tell you from my experience that when I bought the Huawei Honor Note 8 it was the china version, and had absolutely no issues with it here in the US. Everything I installed worked, the only thing I did have issues with was I couldnt get HiVoice to work in English (Couldnt find any eng version that would work), Ok Google couldnt work due to Hivoice being the default. The other thing I had to tweak was permissions to getting Google voice to work correctly with Android Auto. All the banking and credit card apps worked fine, obviously the wallet program or other things built in didnt work, but wasnt a deal breaker.
mimmog said:
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
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Thank you for the store contact, after considering pros and cons I've just ordered the phone from this store. What drives my decision are few simple facts:
I talked to the seller and he assured me that there is no problem with Gapps and payment systems (like GPay). As I'd had a Chinese phone before I was confident in his assurance.
I'm fully aware of problems with G Assistant but I use it primarily as phone tool with Android Auto and I believe that I could manage to use voice in that restricted purpose.
I don't use voice with the keyboard, health or fitness apps at all. So any misconduct regarding those apps doesn't worry me. It's the same with whatsapp and telegram - don't use them.
Far more annoying is the integration of lousy swift keyboard and ms translate into the system and connecting those applications with primary functionality (camera, AR..). They are really far behind Gboard and G Translate and therefore not only pretty useless but rather the disturbance in the system. But they are integrated into the global rom as well and you can't get rid of them in any region. So tolerate them and suffer or don't have Huawei at all.
But what really prevail in my decision is the fact that I'm buying the phone from a European seller. This not only abolishes any additional taxes and duties on the set price but also gives me an enforceable European warranty and delivery claims.
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
stestesteste said:
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
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Yes but the problem is that not work "ok google", google assistent, gboard with vocal dictate and other (services not application)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
mimmog said:
What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
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Maybe, the prize is from Thailand
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The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.
I'm not sure, but what happens if you reset your phone and at the start configuration you choose "India" or "China" in the country list?
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The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.
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You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian
I want to do the same. does this create a problem?
Noter2017 said:
You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian
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Come on man Google, Facebook, blah blah are already spying on you. Don't worry too much about Chinese spying. MIUI apps really slice up the phone. Especially when themes are changed. Definitely would love a guide to override global rom with Indian rom.
Does ur global vr has 10w charger? Or 18w?
I have an old mediatek based redme note4, so very much due an upgrade. The cameras on this look pretty decent and good enough for my youtube vid work...
But I have one issue i want to address...
On my old Note4 using MiUi ive noticed that A LOT of system programs dial home to aliexpress servers... I assume to Xiaomi controlled servers... Ive noticed this quite regularly when doing certain tasks like using Chrome or email, or installing apps...
Now I want to get this phone, I kinda need to know that there will be some roms going around that will strip all this crap out. Annoyingly though I like MiUI as an interface. I just dont like this phone dialing home as much as it is.
So got the few questions.
As its snapdragon, i realise in all likely hood there will be custom roms. What will my likely options be? Lineage? Will there likely be a MiUi with the nastiness stripped?
And I also, when I root the phone to do all this is there anyway to mask the root? I use banking apps that wont run if the phones been rooted...
Anyway I realise its early day. Just thought I should ask. I might be getting the phone around december or january...
We can expect that there would be xiaomi eu rom support which is debloated miui with additional languages. (Also with their shi**y roboto font)
Custom roms may not be your favor cuz they usually give you same boring aosp experience whatever you install.
Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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This typically doesn't work anymore, or it works with very high efforts for a short period.
Mine is arriving today and I will be unlocking the bootloader ASAP.
Xiaomi usually let you unlock the bootloader although you have to wait and the custom ROM scene for past Xiaomi devices has been good (I've had both a Mi 5 and Mi 9 and can testify to this).
So long as someone builds for this device, you'll probably end up with a fair selection of ROMs to choose from including customised / debloated versions of MIUI which aren't too bad either