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I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
ttlee1990 said:
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
Valaran said:
here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
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Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
ttlee1990 said:
Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
rr111 said:
Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
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Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
ttlee1990 said:
Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
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Yes it will be MIUI-based and only MIUI ROMs have those gestures. And I think that the Global version collects little to no data, as there would be a huge public outcry if the Global version collected data and that would probably damage their international reputation a lot, which all chinese companies fear AND the chinese govt fear.
ttlee1990 said:
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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That's what I thought too?
ttlee1990 said:
Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
Twotems said:
I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Echoing previous posts, you're being overly paranoid. Miui allows you to choose every permission and also allows you to block internet access for all apps. As for what the rom developer uploads you're at their mercy but that' will always be the case if you want updates and security patches. Given the popularity of miui I've never heard of anything untoward hidden in the rom. To sum it up, you want a smartphone with the usability of a feature phone.
thinking of buying the realme x but im not fond of the development history of realme devices they barely get any roms. maybe since this is snapdragon and not mediatek, things will be different. what do you all think?
I've had for about 2 weeks, and I am not regretting it.
My last phone was the 1+3 and I've had it since launch, the realme X is about the same performance with double the battery life and a good camera and great big screen for an affordable price.
it's worth a buy.
realme is something like OnePlus.
it's a subband of OPPO , not so independent like OnePlus.
In fact I'm not satisfied with the colorOS , too much change to Android pie .
I'm also 2w in and I love it. Coming from Samsung s8+ and it sure is much better in every way. In my opinion ofc ?
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I've had for about 2 weeks, and I am not regretting it.
My last phone was the 1+3 and I've had it since launch, the realme X is about the same performance with double the battery life and a good camera and great big screen for an affordable price.
it's worth a buy.
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is it drag to move from stock android (oxygen os) to colour os??
Thinking of buying it too, good to see some positive initial impressions here but I'm still worried about the development. Not very fond of color os on previous Realme phones I've used...
daksh singhal said:
is it drag to move from stock android (oxygen os) to colour os??
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I miss skydragon OS on my 1+3, but nova launcher and google apps quench my thirst for now.
I also ordered the phone last night(and ofc the White one other wise whats the reason of buying it.
And regarding Development I hope this atleast gets Development as R3pro, which is quite decent.
Tho I talked with one of the Dev, and he be getting a Realme X, so ???.
I have used this for three month and no problems. So ye, worth i guess
Using it for well over a month now, changed the look of it (copied Dave2d's OnePlus 7 Pro setup) using Nova Launcher (Chinese rom so had to use adb to change default launcher) and third party icons, looks and feels way better than stock ColorOS, other than that ColorOS isn't too bad in terms of aesthetics, as far as the hardware goes got no complains whatsoever, Gcam works fine so camera is top notch, the screen is great, charging is great (also battery performance), it's totally bang for buck imo, no regrets.
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Using it for well over a month now, changed the look of it (copied Dave2d's OnePlus 7 Pro setup) using Nova Launcher (Chinese rom so had to use adb to change default launcher) and third party icons, looks and feels way better than stock ColorOS, other than that ColorOS isn't too bad in terms of aesthetics, as far as the hardware goes got no complains whatsoever, Gcam works fine so camera is top notch, the screen is great, charging is great (also battery performance), it's totally bang for buck imo, no regrets.
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Hi,
You have managed to change the standard launcher? You may provide some informaiton on how you have done it? I tried the standard methods but everything was grayed out or not even there. Also tried rooting the device but some security software safed me from this intention! Even my attempt from pc.
For other people: color OS is probably a good choice if you like a apple like OS. Except some restriction in customisation everything is fine. (It´s running now a week without any bug or problem) Play store is not preinstalled but with a quick search and apk installation you can download every app from play store except google now launcher it´s not supported on the device...
Actually I was planning to buy the redmi K20 pro, but after looking at the price of it changed my mind and ordered the Realme X.
As far now this is the best smartphone under 20k. There are no much difference between the Redmi K20 and Realme X.
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You have managed to change the standard launcher? You may provide some informaiton on how you have done it? I tried the standard methods but everything was grayed out or not even there. Also tried rooting the device but some security software safed me from this intention! Even my attempt from pc.
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For delete launcher Use abd:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.oppo.launcher
Superpfusch said:
Hi,
You have managed to change the standard launcher? You may provide some informaiton on how you have done it? I tried the standard methods but everything was grayed out or not even there. Also tried rooting the device but some security software safed me from this intention! Even my attempt from pc.
For other people: color OS is probably a good choice if you like a apple like OS. Except some restriction in customisation everything is fine. (It´s running now a week without any bug or problem) Play store is not preinstalled but with a quick search and apk installation you can download every app from play store except google now launcher it´s not supported on the device...
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I installed Nova launcher, then disabled the default launcher using adb commands, forcing the phone to use Nova as it's default (yes you don't have the option do it in settings, apparently Chinese ROMs don't allow changing launcher for safety(?) reasons) . But keep in mind that after using this method to change the launcher, the swipe gestures from both sides won't work, you won't be able to go to home using swipe up, so I had to move to swipe-up gestures, which is the swipe alternative of having virtual keys, you can use virtual keys as well. other than this everthing works perfectly.
I used this thread to disable the default launcher: Click here
** Make sure you have a launcher installed before disabling the default launcher, if you mess up you can always reset and start again, try not to disable things you aren't sure of as it can mess up the phone (learned from experience) **
I bought it for my sister in law before i sent it to nigeria. I can attest to the quality of the phone. the only thing that may piss u off if u are coming from stock android is that color os has so many animations (there are so many that there is a setting not in dev settings, where u can reduce animations. to me this reduction does nothing) that slow down how the phone seems to operate. Trust me its a fast phone but with all the animations it looks slow. Also if u buy the china version u would have to deal with some chinese text but u can uninstall a lot of everything that u dont want and install google play from apkpure and just move on with life. It was surprisingly a lot easier and palatable to deal with as a chinese rom than a Redmi Note 7 chinese version i had bought. The Redmi didnt play well with sideloading google services so i had to unlock the bootloader and load an Xiaomi.eu rom while the Realme is so accepting of a sideload that it looks native.
Alex_Pandian said:
As far now this is the best smartphone under 20k. There are no much difference between the Redmi K20 and Realme X.
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True......
I have an old mediatek based redme note4, so very much due an upgrade. The cameras on this look pretty decent and good enough for my youtube vid work...
But I have one issue i want to address...
On my old Note4 using MiUi ive noticed that A LOT of system programs dial home to aliexpress servers... I assume to Xiaomi controlled servers... Ive noticed this quite regularly when doing certain tasks like using Chrome or email, or installing apps...
Now I want to get this phone, I kinda need to know that there will be some roms going around that will strip all this crap out. Annoyingly though I like MiUI as an interface. I just dont like this phone dialing home as much as it is.
So got the few questions.
As its snapdragon, i realise in all likely hood there will be custom roms. What will my likely options be? Lineage? Will there likely be a MiUi with the nastiness stripped?
And I also, when I root the phone to do all this is there anyway to mask the root? I use banking apps that wont run if the phones been rooted...
Anyway I realise its early day. Just thought I should ask. I might be getting the phone around december or january...
We can expect that there would be xiaomi eu rom support which is debloated miui with additional languages. (Also with their shi**y roboto font)
Custom roms may not be your favor cuz they usually give you same boring aosp experience whatever you install.
Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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This typically doesn't work anymore, or it works with very high efforts for a short period.
Mine is arriving today and I will be unlocking the bootloader ASAP.
Xiaomi usually let you unlock the bootloader although you have to wait and the custom ROM scene for past Xiaomi devices has been good (I've had both a Mi 5 and Mi 9 and can testify to this).
So long as someone builds for this device, you'll probably end up with a fair selection of ROMs to choose from including customised / debloated versions of MIUI which aren't too bad either
My phone history. Sony arc s lt18i. Remi note 3 kenzo. Remi note 5 pro whyred. Poco m3 citrus lime.
I have flashed phone from android 2 to A11.
I feel frustrating about A11 dynamic partition and vendor problem.
I flash custom aosp based rom and pass safety test.
Still, there are 2~3 bank or shop app not working.
And double tap to wake Ng, flicker screen issue.
Back to eu miui port.
Camera NG.
Too many useless apps.
If I use magisk model debloat method to remove apps.
I can't pass some bank and shop app.
I used to delete apps directly in lt18i phone.
Use root to delete app in kenzo phone.
Magisk hide in whyred.
Then in android 10 I need to remove magisk after delete unnecessary apps. To pass some apps test.
Now I have no choices.
I just use a java app to debloat delete apps.
But app is still there.
64 gb. System suck with 14 gb. Then with apps installed only 36 gb storage you can use.
I feel my body is not clean.
I'm sick.
Yeah that's my mind problem.
You would say. You already debloat to delete apps. You can't see apps icon in your app list.
But I know my space is got eaten.
Uh...
And still I can use camera and watch web tv.
Tbh if I want a perfect rom experience. I need to go back to A10.
In A11 custom aosp rom. They don't list double tap to wake Ng, flicker screen, bank still not pass while safetynet pass are bug.
Unfortunately I need to use eu miui port to use double tap and pass bank apps.
I don't understand why whyred roms can use these bank app but citrus can't.
Vendor problem? Idk.
If you want to flash poco m3?
Plz think more about it then do it.
I still don't know how to use 48mp and macro camera to shot in eu miui.
If you flash it.
Your macro and 48mp may be gone.
Just install bsg Gcam in stock miui system.
Then do nothing.
That what I recommend. Today is 20210702. Hope it will be better
I thought there would be much more activity around this lime phone but it looks like another dud buy for me. I was hoping it would make it onto the official lineageos list but at this rate chances look slim. When I bought it it made sense as the hardware was pretty common and there was multiple phones with the same hardware so could be a popular device. Im running an unoficial version of lineageos and although it works there are a number of issues still.
It seems like it just hasnt been popular with the devs. Maybe someone will pick it up later but we can only hope.
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I thought there would be much more activity around this lime phone but it looks like another dud buy for me. I was hoping it would make it onto the official lineageos list but at this rate chances look slim. When I bought it it made sense as the hardware was pretty common and there was multiple phones with the same hardware so could be a popular device. Im running an unoficial version of lineageos and although it works there are a number of issues still.
It seems like it just hasnt been popular with the devs. Maybe someone will pick it up later but we can only hope.
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The android limitation when google introduced Android 10 makes it a bit harder for a dev to develop
also the android phone release too fast but the source code is released after a long time.
I've Lenovo A6000 plus back in the day with custom ROM up to Android 10
Maybe I didn't search hard enough, but anyone know if it's possible to install the OnePlus launcher on the Pixel 6 Pro? I successfully installed, but it refused to load, even one install that was reported to work on any Android phone. I'm using ProtonAOSP with gapps.
I bought a Pixel 6 Pro out of love for its superior night camera which is fabulous for catching northern lights here in Alaska, but I absolutely love the OxygenOS launcher on my OnePlus 8 Pro. It's a weird request, I know.
All I have to say is,"why?"
Coming from One+ and Samsung..... All users flash roms to come to a Pixel UI and you want a OP launcher on a Pixel? I'm stumped
I'd recommend Nova7 as it's a better fit for phones than OP launcher.
If it's a tinkering matter I totally understand,but, OP on Pixel?
You can also try lawnchair launcher 12. I was missing a few things after moving from 1+ 8 pro to P6 but lawnchair did the trick for me. Basically a pixel launcher with some more customization.
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Maybe I didn't search hard enough, but anyone know if it's possible to install the OnePlus launcher on the Pixel 6 Pro? I successfully installed, but it refused to load, even one install that was reported to work on any Android phone. I'm using ProtonAOSP with gapps.
I bought a Pixel 6 Pro out of love for its superior night camera which is fabulous for catching northern lights here in Alaska, but I absolutely love the OxygenOS launcher on my OnePlus 8 Pro. It's a weird request, I know.
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Which features exactly are you looking for?
There are several available launchers on a Pixel, I can't think of any feature set that OP has that is not available, since you can customize about anything, including icons and how animations/gestures work.
As others have said. What's the point?
Anyway, installing the APK will not be sufficient as the OnePlus launcher also relies on a number of native libraries.
You will need figure out exactly which libraries and make them available in /system/lib(64) via a Magisk module.
Too much hassle for what ...
Specifically, I really like this one touch close all apps button. It's a good visual decluttering for me versus memory issue. If I feel overwhelmed by everything I have open, tap the one button and it all feels clean again.
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All I have to say is,"why?"
Coming from One+ and Samsung..... All users flash roms to come to a Pixel UI and you want a OP launcher on a Pixel? I'm stumped
I'd recommend Nova7 as it's a better fit for phones than OP launcher.
If it's a tinkering matter I totally understand,but, OP on Pixel?
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I know! I'm weird!
arvylas said:
You can also try lawnchair launcher 12. I was missing a few things after moving from 1+ 8 pro to P6 but lawnchair did the trick for me. Basically a pixel launcher with some more customization.
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I'll give it a look.
Closing the apps in that way is not recommended and actually worsens battery use. Doesn't do anything for memory use either really as the phone has plenty and manages it well enough. This is why it has been gotten rid of in later versions of Android.
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I'll give it a look.
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And if you're rooted with lawn chair just use quick switch in magisk and you'll have all you need.
400ixl said:
Closing the apps in that way is not recommended and actually worsens battery use. Doesn't do anything for memory use either really as the phone has plenty and manages it well enough. This is why it has been gotten rid of in later versions of Android.
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Eh, I charge it enough. It really is more of a psychological visual decluttering for me. I know, it's really best to let Android manage your open apps.
If you scroll all the way to the left you get a clear all
psychotropic said:
Maybe I didn't search hard enough, but anyone know if it's possible to install the OnePlus launcher on the Pixel 6 Pro? I successfully installed, but it refused to load, even one install that was reported to work on any Android phone. I'm using ProtonAOSP with gapps.
I bought a Pixel 6 Pro out of love for its superior night camera which is fabulous for catching northern lights here in Alaska, but I absolutely love the OxygenOS launcher on my OnePlus 8 Pro. It's a weird request, I know.
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I remember using this on my pixel 2xl. Hasn't been updated in a minute though but it will do the job
One thing i like most about One plus launcher is to hide apps with fingerprint.
Left swipe to reveal but with fingerprint.
Is there any launcher which has this feature?
Check out Ruthless Launcher
Google Play Link
It has a clear all button on the left most page of the app switcher.
Also has app locker function with fingerprint unlock.
Dev is really responsive on Telegram and the app receives frequent updates.
It's customisable - app icons support, grid options etc, loads of features including At-A-Glance and Google Feed etc. Been using it for a few years now.