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Help with s-off and ota

Hi I have tried to go back to stock to do ota, and now I'm s-on can't get s-off again or get the ota to install or flash, I'm stuck and in need of some.Help please

Not enough info. Did you restore stock recovery? Why can't you install OTA (what error messages, etc.)?
Did you turn it back to S-on after doing S-off? If so, you didn't need to, as s-on is not required for OTA.
What is the current state of the phone, is it bootlooping, etc.?

The error.message from htc says the phone is rooted or tampered with and.cannot perform.update, I tried recovery and.relocking, to see if i can do the ota, same.error, I tried to flash the ota by going into the recovery screen after recovery to stock, where hold volume up and.press power brings up a menu to install from device or sd card, no luck there, says invalid cid

Current state of.the phone is rooted twrp, unlocked, s-on (firewater doesn't.work anymore), Harman karman installed, supercid, phone has boot looped but supersu did a update, so far no more boot loop, kit Kat 4.4.2, software #1.55.6664

MAhtc said:
Current state of.the phone is rooted twrp, unlocked, s-on (firewater doesn't.work anymore), Harman karman installed, supercid, phone has boot looped but supersu did a update, so far no more boot loop, kit Kat 4.4.2, software #1.55.6664
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It's a guess but H/K is a mod changing Kernel and will thus prevent OTA from succeeding as far as I know.
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MAhtc said:
Hi I have tried to go back to stock to do ota, and now I'm s-on can't get s-off again or get the ota to install or flash, I'm stuck and in need of some.Help please
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CID please

HTCNerdYoda said:
It's a guess but H/K is a mod changing Kernel and will thus prevent OTA from succeeding as far as I know.
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How can I fix that ?

MAhtc said:
How can I fix that ?
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Perform a clean install of a TWRP Backup (of course one that fits your CID/MID, which is why @zhiarw asked for it I think) without this mod. After this reinstall stock recovery and try OTA again.
This should do the job.
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zhiarw said:
CID please
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As stated, supercid at the moment, original cid is saskt001

Go back to clean but older ROM and try Firewater again.

MAhtc said:
As stated, supercid at the moment, original cid is saskt001
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Ok, then find backup corresponding to your FW for this CID without H/K Mod, install using recovery (e.g. TWRP), go back to stock revocery.
After this you should be abled to perform the OTA.

Thanks, I'll try to find one

MAhtc said:
Thanks, I'll try to find one
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CID SASKT001 and BM___001 share the same software no.
So you can use 1.55.666.4 under CID BM___001 backup and recovery.
Download from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2 701376

So is there a step by step for a clean twrp install ? Guess I didn't do that since I'm having issues

MAhtc said:
So is there a step by step for a clean twrp install ? Guess I didn't do that since I'm having issues
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It's quite strait forward:
1) flash stock backup using TWRP
2) flash stock firmware using fastboot commands in bootloader
--> reverted to stock
3) check for OTA in settings menu

Awesome, thanks again, I'm New to this whole thing , came from having a iPhone

MAhtc said:
Awesome, thanks again, I'm New to this whole thing , came from having a iPhone
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No problem you're welcome. Just don't forget to hit the "Thanks" if someone was of any help to you. They'll do it as well
Congrats, the One is a good choice.

Ya I'll have to try when I get home, I'm hoping it works, and then I'll have to see what benefit there is to rooting since I haven't really done anything since.doing.the Harman kardon

MAhtc said:
Ya I'll have to try when I get home, I'm hoping it works, and then I'll have to see what benefit there is to rooting since I haven't really done anything since.doing.the Harman kardon
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if you install a room on your phone or use xposed tools there are lots of benefits of rooting

tried this, in twrp tried installing the backup, it failed, so no luck so far

[Q] m8 international Soff 4.4.3

Hello Folks,
I'm helping a friend to mod his m8 , he has installed 4.4.3 OTA I know I can unlock the bootloader via HTC dev then custom recovery and wakesauce to gain su acess, but can I use firewater to SOFF the phone after installing 4.4.3 OTA , I have read somewhere HTC patched stuff and firewater does not work on 4.4.3 devices?
Please advise ...

Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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hdorius said:
Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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Yes go for SunShine.
muk12 said:
I know I can unlock the bootloader via HTC dev then custom recovery and wakesauce to gain su acess, but can I use firewater to SOFF the phone after installing 4.4.3 OTA , I have read somewhere HTC patched stuff and firewater does not work on 4.4.3 devices?
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You don't need HTCDev if you use SunShine, as SunShine gains S-Off AND unlocks the bootloader. Following this way HTC don't come to know that the device has been changed. Thus you would not have any problems regarding warranty

hdorius said:
Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Yes go for SunShine.
You don't need HTCDev if you use SunShine, as SunShine gains S-Off AND unlocks the bootloader. Following this way HTC don't come to know that the device has been changed. Thus you would not have any problems regarding warranty
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Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?

muk12 said:
Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?
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Yep,still the same like previous HTC phone,S-ON still can flash any custom rom and just flash boot.img after rom zip
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muk12 said:
Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?
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Yes but to flash AOSP/GPE ROMs could easily lead to problems if it is done wrong. For GPE as far as I know a conversion of the phone is needed, as the partition sizes are different. During this process the hole firmware has to be replaced by the GPE one with the black HBoot as well. So do carefully read the conversion threads if you are coming from a sense ROM!
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Yes but to flash AOSP/GPE ROMs could easily lead to problems if it is done wrong. For GPE as far as I know a conversion of the phone is needed, as the partition sizes are different. During this process the hole firmware has to be replaced by the GPE one with the black HBoot as well. So do carefully read the conversion threads if you are coming from a sense ROM!
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The partitions are only altered if a full conversion (by RUU) is performed. GPE based custom ROMs will run fine with no conversion (no partition change or hboot change required); as will any AOSP ROMs.

[Q] S-On How do I return to Stock

Hey guys as the Title says I'm Currently S-On, Rooted and Running ARHD 22.1 on my One M8 Euro/International which is Unlocked Using 3.401.9 firmware.
How do I go about returning everything to Stock as the Guide I have found assumes I have S-off which I dont/cant do due to it saying device incompatible.
Any helps much appreciated

Anyone Able to help as I really don't Fancy having a Bricked Handset

My guide needs S-OFF for some parts but the rest can be followed if you're S-ON. There is an RUU ZIP which might also work for you, so perhaps give that a go...

you'll have to relock the bootloader if you are s-on and then flash an RUU for your phone model to return to stock

hlhmark said:
Hey guys as the Title says I'm Currently S-On, Rooted and Running ARHD 22.1 on my One M8 Euro/International which is Unlocked Using 3.401.9 firmware.
How do I go about returning everything to Stock as the Guide I have found assumes I have S-off which I dont/cant do due to it saying device incompatible.
Any helps much appreciated
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Check your CID,
-download stock backup and stock recovery from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 your CID must be matched,
Restore via TWRP
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bedduxx said:
Check your CID,
-download stock backup and stock recovery from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 your CID must be matched,
Restore via TWRP
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You don't need a backup if it's an EU M8 as we have the RUU ZIP - why bother with anything else?

EddyOS said:
You don't need a backup if it's an EU M8 as we have the RUU ZIP - why bother with anything else?
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Ok thanks I'll give it ago when I'm home its so I can receive OTA Updates as currently I'm unable to S-Off with Sunshine " Device Incompatible" apparently it will be addressed in V3. But as lollipop is rolling out I might as well go back to stock and update.
Thanks for your Help much appreciated

hlhmark said:
Ok thanks I'll give it ago when I'm home its so I can receive OTA Updates as currently I'm unable to S-Off with Sunshine " Device Incompatible" apparently it will be addressed in V3. But as lollipop is rolling out I might as well go back to stock and update.
Thanks for your Help much appreciated
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Sunshine only works on stock rom
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Is it a case of doing it in this order, Relocked the Bootloader and then Flash the RUU?

EddyOS said:
My guide needs S-OFF for some parts but the rest can be followed if you're S-ON. There is an RUU ZIP which might also work for you, so perhaps give that a go...
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Is it a case of doing it in this order, Relocked the Bootloader and then Flash the RUU?

Unroot Euro (EE) HTC M9 for OTA update?

Hi all,
I'm really out of touch with the scene so please go easy on me.
I rooted my European M9 a while ago and have TWRP recovery installed, S-On, Software version is 2.10.61.6, Baseband is 01.01_U11440601_83.06.50709G_F
The other day I got the Android 6.0 OTA update which I was not expecting as I was under the impression that since rooting (as has been the case with all my other Androids) OTAs would be disabled.
Just to see what would happen I accepted it, the device rebooted and of course loaded TWRP. So that's a no go.
Could someone please tell me what the best way of updating without having to lose all my data is?

S-off is the best and only way to save your data. Otherwise you need to go through the complex process of getting it back to official status.
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OK, what's the best way to get S-off? I see there's a $25 app some people are using, is there an alternative to that?

No alternative. Sunshine works great but be sure to read twice and press the button once..
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OK, thanks for the advice. So if I get S-OFF via Sunshine, what's next?

I have a full backup of my system before I rooted, can I not just flash back the stock recovery and then proceed with the OTA?
If not and I need to be S-OFF still then fine, just trying to understand why that is.
Thanks!

S-off just makes life easier for being able to run unsigned code. Like, unsigned roms will install.
If you flash the stock backup you still need to obtain official status to take the ota. This is known to bugger your phone if you get it wrong. S-off solves the buggered phones issue..
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OK, thanks for clarifying the info.
I'm now rooted, unlocked and s-off.
The backup of my recovery partition is "recovery.emmc.win", what's the process to flash that back to the phone and continue from there so I can accept the OTA?
Another thing - It's possible that I accepted another OTA since making that backup as I'm now on 2.10.61.6. I can't find a stock recovery for that version so does this affect the process?

Bump! Can anyone help me out here with the correct guide to follow please? Really don't want to mess this up!

Hi JonnyG1980, I am happy to help you but don't suppose you could upload your backup as I have been looking for it for ages?
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AirwolfUK said:
Hi JonnyG1980, I am happy to help you but don't suppose you could upload your backup as I have been looking for it for ages?
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My stock recovery backup? I'm not sure which version that is taken from as I'm pretty sure I accepted an OTA to get to the version I am on now.

Download the orange RUU.zip from here and place on your sdcard rename to 0PJAIMG.zip boot into download mode and it'll prompt you to flash make sure you backup all your data etc beforehand as this will wipe your device

liam_davenport said:
Download the orange RUU.zip from here and place on your sdcard rename to 0PJAIMG.zip boot into download mode and it'll prompt you to flash make sure you backup all your data etc beforehand as this will wipe your device
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I'm trying to update WITHOUT wiping my device. Hence going S-OFF.

liam_davenport said:
Download the orange RUU.zip from here and place on your sdcard rename to 0PJAIMG.zip boot into download mode and it'll prompt you to flash make sure you backup all your data etc beforehand as this will wipe your device
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Hi Liam, where / what RUU?
I am trying to get back to some release of stock to get the mm ota.
I think I have three choices?
1. Restore my 1.32.16.x backup and take the 2.10.61.x again then on to MM but I need stock 1.32.61.x recovery
2. Restore someone else's 2.10.61.x backup?
3. S-off
So if anyone has either 1 or 2 I would be very grateful.
Thanks -
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try to follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/htc-one-m9-3-35-401-12-ruu-installer-t3318517

xyqtt said:
try to follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/htc-one-m9-3-35-401-12-ruu-installer-t3318517
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Yes but I need the specific RUU first!
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Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but could anyone explain the benefits of S=Off again to me?
I've tried various RUU to update my phone and all have rejected the CID (ORANG001) so I've had no option than to use one with a matching base (x.x.61.x) to my existing rom. I was under the impression that the CID was made irrelevant or could be changed, but I can find no reference on how to go about this.
As I couldn't find my current RUU, or the latest MM release I had to go with 1.32.61.15, has this downgrade been permitted by being S-Off?

If you didn't change your CID then being s-off enabled you to downgrade.
As a reference, I am still s-on and cannot downgrade to 1.32.x from 2.10.x
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AirwolfUK said:
If you didn't change your CID then being s-off enabled you to downgrade.
As a reference, I am still s-on and cannot downgrade to 1.32.x from 2.10.x
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Thanks, I think I get it now. Now just the question of whether to re-root or not remains.

Hi johnny did you achieve s-off? If so, how? Also, did you get to download and install the ota?

ota update problem ! help😔

Rooted my HTC m9 (unlocked the boot loader , flashed a custom twrp recovery, installed supersu through it) and I am still getting ota update. But when I try to install the update ( going from 5.1.1 to marshmallow ) the phone restarts and get into the recovery.
I tried to restore the nandroid I have made since I rooted the phone, and tried to update again, but still didn't work !
Actually the phone is working great but all the solution I tried to get back to stock , and take the ota update didn't work ( even with an RUU , which I may not have found the right one).
Below is a pic of the download mode
Any help will be apreciated
imgur. com/avkCxqW
tinypic. com/r/fe3muf/9
Nb: remove the space between "dot" and "com"

You either need to be at "official" status OR buy s-off.
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shivadow said:
You either need to be at "official" status OR buy s-off.
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Please what do you mean by "official" status ,and how ?
And also if I buy s-off (using sunshine app) what next ?

Why on earth are you rooting if you don't know anything about it?.
Official means "as it was from factory" the device knows that it isn't as factory.
S-off means you can flash any rom and brick your device even quicker.
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Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)

superyacine1994 said:
Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)
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You have to be 100% stock to take an ota. This is a security feature to prevent bricks, which can and have resulted from people trying to take otas when rooted.
There are multiple threads on how to do this. Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/stock-nand-backup-ota-update-collection-t3132698

superyacine1994 said:
Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)
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Official status is a pita, just go s-off. Its worth the $25 to have a working phone at the end.
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shivadow said:
Official status is a pita, just go s-off. Its worth the $25 to have a working phone at the end.
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Indeed! I will !
I guess as soon as I go s-off I will be able to flash any ruu therefore be 100% stock right?

iElvis said:
You have to be 100% stock to take an ota. This is a security feature to prevent bricks, which can and have resulted from people trying to take otas when rooted.
There are multiple threads on how to do this. Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/stock-nand-backup-ota-update-collection-t3132698
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Another thing,
After I have unlocked the boot loader, I did a twrp-backup .
So I don't need to download another one ,right ?

So long as you have the 4gb backup of system then you're golden. You can't do another until its stock stock stock because the partition is now modded!!.
S-off will help against bricks. You must still have the official status to flash a signed official stock rom but s-off isn't counted/seen. These are ruu.EXE
Otherwise yes, any rom except signed official while rooted with s-off. You can install unsigned "offical" stock roms and flash them straight away. No messing about resetting official. These are ruu.ZIP.
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shivadow said:
S-off will help against bricks.
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This needs some nuance. Being s-off will prevent you from getting into situations where you can't boot because of some security protocol, but can't fix the problem because you can't boot, for example if you relock in bootloader with a custom recovery but don't have "Allow OEM unlock" ticked in the OS.
But being s-off also opens up many other avenues for brickage that don't exist when s-on. A hard brick can be as simple as flashing a custom splash image for the wrong phone.

shivadow said:
So long as you have the 4gb backup of system then you're golden. You can't do another until its stock stock stock because the partition is now modded!!.
S-off will help against bricks. You must still have the official status to flash a signed official stock rom but s-off isn't counted/seen. These are ruu.EXE
Otherwise yes, any rom except signed official while rooted with s-off. You can install unsigned "offical" stock roms and flash them straight away. No messing about resetting official. These are ruu.ZIP.
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Got you now !
I just restored my twrp backup ( BTW it's 9.8gb not 4gb) it contains a backup of all the partitions.
Now, instead of going s-off and use ruu to get back to stock, is there another way for so ?