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Okay, I think I know the answer to this question, so forgive me. Just want to be sure before I go blow $500.
For the Nexus devices, regardless of the carrier, we'll be able to root them and ROM them as well as install new Kernel's because the bootloaders will be unlocked?
If that's correct please say so. If it's only partially correct, please explain it all to me.
Disgruntled Verizon User with a S6 Edge
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
Yes, its easy as pie.
nexuses are always devs favorites...
@mrbigdrawsz As a fellow Verizon user, I know exactly were your coming from. And yes since this is a nexus device coming directly from Google and not being sold or touched by Verizon, it will be good to go for all your rooting, ROM'ing, Bootloader unlocking, and custom kernel needs.
Yes! Though I am not sure about the Pixel C. I am wondering if Google giving products the Pixel name means they lock them down? Sorry, little off topic.
I'm only curious how/if Google has the fingerprint security locked down when it comes to root
shimp208 said:
@mrbigdrawsz As a fellow Verizon user, I know exactly were your coming from. And yes since this is a nexus device coming directly from Google and not being sold or touched by Verizon, it will be good to go for all your rooting, ROM'ing, Bootloader unlocking, and custom kernel needs.
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Thank the sweet, tiny, infant squishy baby Jesus! I have yet to own a nexus phone (fed up with my GS5) and am about to pre order the 5X. I miss getting to try out different roms and such, so i'm really pumped about the 5X. the 6P is just too big of a phone for me i think.
Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere, is there any word on xposed for android M?
owenrg said:
Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere, is there any word on xposed for android M?
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They are still working out the bugs on getting it to run on 5.x completely as they want and those devs on the Xposed team do a phenomenal job. Support for 6.0 marshmallow will eventually come but it will be a little bit yet.
If I unlock bootload, will I have problem with OTA?
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They are still working out the bugs on getting it to run on 5.x completely as they want and those devs on the Xposed team do a phenomenal job. Support for 6.0 marshmallow will eventually come but it will be a little bit yet.
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Awesome thanks!
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menaceinc said:
If I unlock bootload, will I have problem with OTA?
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If you just unlock the bootloader you will be fine for OTA's, if you root or then install a custom recovery then you'll have to apply the OTA updates a different way then usual.
Thanks, I will just do that, unlocking bootloader. I really missed OTA as my current N5 is rooted.
shimp208 said:
If you just unlock the bootloader you will be fine for OTA's, if you root or then install a custom recovery then you'll have to apply the OTA updates a different way then usual.
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shimp208 said:
If you just unlock the bootloader you will be fine for OTA's, if you root or then install a custom recovery then you'll have to apply the OTA updates a different way then usual.
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Will rooting affect OTA? or will OTA just update and revert the device back to a non rooted state?
Tank87 said:
Will rooting affect OTA? or will OTA just update and revert the device back to a non rooted state?
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In my experience, installing an OTA over a rooted phone would just kill root and you'd have to root it again, however, installing a custom ROM, the developer usually kills OTA so that all the custom stuff doesn't get jacked up.
Tank87 said:
Will rooting affect OTA? or will OTA just update and revert the device back to a non rooted state?
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Rooting will effect the built in method of OTA updates. This is not a problem though. 99% of the time you will have access to the updated via the nexus factory image site before you receive notification of an OTA update on your device. Download the update and extract the boot, bootloader, radio, and system images. Flash via fastboot in bootloader mode and you will update your device without losing data/settings. I believe that you can flash img files with recent TWRP builds also.
To root after update just reboot to TWRP recovery and reboot. You will be prompted to install root before system reboots.
May seem a little overwhelming if its your first nexus device but a lot easier than updating a non nexus rooted Android device.
For more info check out any one of the recent nexus routing guides sticky threads
I know many people rooted etc their Nexus 5s using the Wugfresh Nexus Root ToolKit. Undoubtably a version will be introduced for the 5X,
If you root your device then flash a custom rom, you will be notified of the update via OTA or otherwise (eg Pushbullet) for that specific rom that you have flashed.
SlyUK said:
I know many people rooted etc their Nexus 5s using the Wugfresh Nexus Root ToolKit. Undoubtably a version will be introduced for the 5X,
If you root your device then flash a custom rom, you will be notified of the update via OTA or otherwise (eg Pushbullet) for that specific rom that you have flashed.
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Why use a Toolkit to root? Just using ADB and Fastboot is better/easier since you can actually see what is happening during the process. Using a toolkit removes that element and if it hangs you don't where in the process it failed on.
metpage said:
Why use a Toolkit to root? Just using ADB and Fastboot is better/easier since you can actually see what is happening during the process. Using a toolkit removes that element and if it hangs you don't where in the process it failed on.
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Yes thats true, but I haven't heard of many people who have had problems with Wugfresh and it is a popular method. Everyone is different
I always rooted my Nexus (N4, N5 & N7), but I am not going to root my new upcoming Nexus 5X. Why? It just too much to flash/root since Google will release monthly security updates. Yes, I did use "fastboot flash xxx xxx.img" method. However, I will unlock the bootloader in case I change my mind in the future. With unlocked bootloader, I can always fix phone via flash factory images.
I spent a little time browsing around, and I didn't seem to find any straight answers anywhere. I just got my Pixel XL on Verizon, running NDE63P.
Is this build number compatible with dePixel8? I'd like to unlock this bootloader and root the phone before I lose all chance to in the future. On top of that, if it is compatible with dePixel8, where would I find a guide to download fastboot and adb? How would I know if it's working properly with my phone?
Please and thank you to anyone that helps me out here. Again, been out of the Android scene since the S4.
Anthony825 said:
I spent a little time browsing around, and I didn't seem to find any straight answers anywhere. I just got my Pixel XL on Verizon, running NDE63P.
Is this build number compatible with dePixel8? I'd like to unlock this bootloader and root the phone before I lose all chance to in the future. On top of that, if it is compatible with dePixel8, where would I find a guide to download fastboot and adb? How would I know if it's working properly with my phone?
Please and thank you to anyone that helps me out here. Again, been out of the Android scene since the S4.
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It still works to unlock bootloader on verizon pixel. Jcase said google didnt get the fix out in time for Nov security update so its still a go till Dec update. Adb minimal is at link below just updated on 10-22-16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
Awesome, I just got the bootloader unlocked. In the past with other android phones I've owned I was able to root only due to Verizon's ways. Now that I'm unlocked how would I go about getting SuperSU installed? Or whatever super user program is used for this phone?
Also, it popped up on my phone right before I unlocked it....Is it safe to install 7.1 updates? Will it relock my phone?
Anthony825 said:
Awesome, I just got the bootloader unlocked. In the past with other android phones I've owned I was able to root only due to Verizon's ways. Now that I'm unlocked how would I go about getting SuperSU installed? Or whatever super user program is used for this phone?
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Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/root-supersu-t3490156
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Anthony825 said:
Also, it popped up on my phone right before I unlocked it....Is it safe to install 7.1 updates? Will it relock my phone?
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Updates will only affect root currently. I would update before you root but it's completely separate from whether the bootloader is locked or not.
Yea I found the root information and got it rooted last night. This morning I woke up though and realized I was having blue tooth issues which were causing me to lose connection to the Verizon network. Rebooted the phone and all is well.
I've unlocked my bootloader but I am stock with no root. I haven't done anything yet because I'm waiting for twrp and Roms to mature a bit before I dive right in. Does anybody know if it's safe to update and keep the unlocked bootloader?
I know it should be safe to do the full image flash from a computer using fastboot. I am specifically talking about the ota
lars1110 said:
I know it should be safe to do the full image flash from a computer using fastboot. I am specifically talking about the ota
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Yes, it's safe to take the OTA as long as your bootloader is already unlocked.
Yes, I installed it with no problem. Boot loader is still unlocked, and the new move gestures are mostly OK.
I lost the ability to use the native Hotspot with my unlimited data plan on Verizon. It appears the update closed the workaround where you could use network refresher and bypass the provisioning check.
Awesome thanks everybody about to do the OTA now
Mike01680 said:
I lost the ability to use the native Hotspot with my unlimited data plan on Verizon. It appears the update closed the workaround where you could use network refresher and bypass the provisioning check.
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Damn that sucks. I'll be avoiding it for now then. Really don't want to root. I like android pay. But I need tethering
You can update... The OTA didn't work on my phone so I had to sideload it through ADB, still unlocked and worked like a charm
wrong thread
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
Sent from my Pixel XL
Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
Sent from my Pixel XL
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You can before this update that was just released. You have to unlock before taking update or you won't be able to unlock. Once you unlock you can still update with no problem
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Krunk83 said:
I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
Sent from my Pixel XL
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There is a tool that can force unlock the bootloader (depixel8?), but the exploit that it uses has been closed with this update.
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I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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You can if your on 7.1 but not if your on 7.1.1
EDIT: I misread the posting. It is locked in 7.1.1.
Scott said:
This is not correct. @jcase stated he updated the tool to work with 7.1.1...
I'll see if I can find that post again...
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Really?? The news has been all over that the 7.1.1 update patched dePixel8. He even posted on his website about it and said to not ask for further support. I assumed he didn't have a pixel so wasn't going to spend any more time on it. From my understanding the first method was very simple for them to figure out.
Please reply if you can find the post this will be big for everyone!
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I thought the Verizon pixel couldn't unlock the bootloader. Is that true?
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You can unlock the bootloader with the dePixel8 method
Ad nauseum to the can you unlock or not. The latest update from Verizon makes the Verizon model locked. Period. If you haven't unlocked already, don't update to 7.1.1. If you plan to unlock. Depixel8 DOES NOT work for verizon pixel once the 7.1.1 update has been applied. If you unlock.... Don't relock. End of story. Stop with the round and round.
318sugarhill said:
Damn that sucks. I'll be avoiding it for now then. Really don't want to root. I like android pay. But I need tethering
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I'm pretty sure you can root, change the build.prop to allow tethering, unroot, then install a custom kernel with the safetynet bypass feature and still use android pay.
So taking the OTA and flashing boot to root after will work if I'm understanding everything I've read this far? Also I have been unable to find the build specific for 7.1.1 for Verizon to download.
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I'm pretty sure you can root, change the build.prop to allow tethering, unroot, then install a custom kernel with the safetynet bypass feature and still use android pay.
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Is this true? If so where is the post to someone doing this exact thing?
Hello pros
I have been searching around for a working root solution for n910a & found nothing. I didn't find any thread regarding giving root access via Magisk .... did anyone try that yet ??
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Not to kill your hopes and dreams, but I do not think it is likely for many people to be willing to do development on this phone. AFAIK, not even a recovery is possible..
There is a huge bounty for rooting that model n910a
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-boot-loader-unlock-t2915037
My Note 4 model n910a is UNLOCKED - is it still the case that Magisk or some other root will not work...I have been reading everything from this site I can get my hands on but cannot find any definite answer. Thanks, folks
Having the SIM unlocked makes you able to use any GSM provider anywhere not just AT&T, and this is a different story from having the mobile software locked so it can't be rooted i.e. can't get Admin privileges.
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My Note 4 model n910a is UNLOCKED - is it still the case that Magisk or some other root will not work...I have been reading everything from this site I can get my hands on but cannot find any definite answer. Thanks, folks
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Yes. I am using a different carrier now because my SIM is unlocked. My big question is can I use Magisk to root it with a systemless root? Or are there better ways?
I want to use Xposed Modules. Thank you
schell0385 said:
Yes. I am using a different carrier now because my SIM is unlocked. My big question is can I use Magisk to root it with a systemless root? Or are there better ways?
I want to use Xposed Modules. Thank you
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I don't think you understand what people are saying. You can't root that model. I've been hoping for years..
xero4zero said:
There is a huge bounty for rooting that model n910a
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-boot-loader-unlock-t2915037
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I had a brain fart. How about we Flash the T-Mobile Note 4 bootloader to the phone. Would that help? Lol
I used the bootloader from Verizon. I get a bootloop to the end of the firmware.
The firmware files are signed, so you can not upgrade the boot.img and put it back, it will not work. There is also no full access to adb and fastboot. Magisk used, did not help. More than 30 pieces of different applications for root. did not help. It is necessary to change the loader, after root.
What would happen if you flashed any software/firmware from the att note 3 onto the att note 4? Sure I can imagine we would lose some hardware benefits like the fingerprint scanner. But could it be possible to do so then root from there.
Long story short: got a replacement pixel 2 XL from my insurance and it came with the ability to unlock the bootloader....
Due to the scattered threads and misleading threads, this phone has been one of the most annoying to find updated information regarding rooting anything up to date for the phone.
My questions:
Once bootloader unlocked, can I one-click root?
-Bought andromeda substratum before I knew it was unlocked, still like to use, but what themes are flawless with my version of phone?
-Does anyone just have a bookmark of their collection of resources?
8.1.0
Kernal: 4.4.88-g1df3f1db0988
[email protected] #1
Build: OPM2.171019.029.B1
OEM Unlocking: ON
rsjino said:
Long story short: got a replacement pixel 2 XL from my insurance and it came with the ability to unlock the bootloader....
Due to the scattered threads and misleading threads, this phone has been one of the most annoying to find updated information regarding rooting anything up to date for the phone.
My questions:
Once bootloader unlocked, can I one-click root?
-Bought andromeda substratum before I knew it was unlocked, still like to use, but what themes are flawless with my version of phone?
-Does anyone just have a bookmark of their collection of resources?
8.1.0
Kernal: 4.4.88-g1df3f1db0988
[email protected] #1
Build: OPM2.171019.029.B1
OEM Unlocking: ON
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It's easy to relock the bootloader if you are at all interested. Once bootloader is unlocked you push over the twrp install zip and then push it over adb.. So you can install twrp... With twrp? And then just install magisk and then you have root. You can patch the boot.img with magisk and flash that if you don't want to mess with twrp reocery
rsjino said:
Long story short: got a replacement pixel 2 XL from my insurance and it came with the ability to unlock the bootloader....
Due to the scattered threads and misleading threads, this phone has been one of the most annoying to find updated information regarding rooting anything up to date for the phone.
My questions:
Once bootloader unlocked, can I one-click root?
-Bought andromeda substratum before I knew it was unlocked, still like to use, but what themes are flawless with my version of phone?
-Does anyone just have a bookmark of their collection of resources?
8.1.0
Kernal: 4.4.88-g1df3f1db0988
[email protected] #1
Build: OPM2.171019.029.B1
OEM Unlocking: ON
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This thread has all you need to know about unlocking bootloader, flashing or installing TWRP, and Magisk. All info you ask for is there, just read it carefully and you will be good.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418
Thank you both! Love XDA community!