Hey guys!!,
Yet another of my noob questions BUT, this time I think I'm going to take the plunge and root my Gnex!!! *scared* haha
I'm just having to many frustrating things happening on my stock Gnex, low responsiveness to the touch, slow-ish and well, isnt this what its all about!! =)
So a quick one, if anyone can point me in the most normal, simple and customizable direction, what do I do? I have searched for a while now so I have an idea where i want to go, either, Cynagon or AOKP...I'm hearing great things about AOKP...there from the same devs yeah?? (a guess)
So, I have a Samsung updated Gnex, in Aus and with optus. I'm technical so I'm getting a grasp on whats what but still not to clear on Kernels and radios....bit worried about that. Clockwork I'm guessing is like a boot manager?? Just asking that while I was here...
So Odin? Wug? CF-Root? I'm just not sure...
Thanks soooo much in advance guys.... I already appreciate your help. =)=)
*Excited!!!*
Cheers!!
P.S. I'd also very much like to return to stock form later on if I want...like locked oem and restored stock rom... =)
Helmet321 said:
Hey guys!!,
Yet another of my noob questions BUT, this time I think I'm going to take the plunge and root my Gnex!!! *scared* haha
I'm just having to many frustrating things happening on my stock Gnex, low responsiveness to the touch, slow-ish and well, isnt this what its all about!! =)
So a quick one, if anyone can point me in the most normal, simple and customizable direction, what do I do? I have searched for a while now so I have an idea where i want to go, either, Cynagon or AOKP...I'm hearing great things about AOKP...there from the same devs yeah?? (a guess)
So, I have a Samsung updated Gnex, in Aus and with optus. I'm technical so I'm getting a grasp on whats what but still not to clear on Kernels and radios....bit worried about that. Clockwork I'm guessing is like a boot manager?? Just asking that while I was here...
So Odin? Wug? CF-Root? I'm just not sure...
Thanks soooo much in advance guys.... I already appreciate your help. =)=)
*Excited!!!*
Cheers!!
P.S. I'd also very much like to return to stock form later on if I want...like locked oem and restored stock rom... =)
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Try my ToolKit in the dev forum. Its simple, straightforward, easy to understand, there is a 1-click option which will do everything and every step is explained in detail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
You can also use my ToolKit to flash a Stock Google Rom if you ever want to in the future.
With regards to Roms there are lots available to try by very experienced developers that will make your phone better and plenty of kernels to make it run ALOT faster. I use bigxie's Rom and franco's kernel.
Mark.
Hi!!,
Thanks so much for your reply!
Funny as, I was JUST reading your guide. Awesome work man, very informative.=)=) and it would of taken some time to compile!. =/
Arm, I'm just wondering what file I need to backup to got back to the rom I'm on now? I want to be able to go back, if needed.
I don’t know what kernels are all about, and what do I need to do about Radios?? If I have the wrong one or something, does that mean I wont have signal?? Or bad call/signal reliability?
I'm looking at the build 23 of AOKP...I'm hearing its the go...and if i have a wrong kernal rom radio combo, what’s that going to do??, that’s if they correlate?? haha
Is security as issue?? Since these are built "freely" is there any exposure of private info?
I'm sorry for smashing you with all this, I'm just trying to get all the info before I do anything and to have a failsafe if I need to return for warranty.... =/
Thank you in advance!!! =)
Cheers.
P.S. Is Bigxie Apex?? I hear good things about that too!! haha. Its so hard, theres so many out there... Apex, Gummy, AOKP look great. I also really want a responsive, battery lasting, fast and importantly "stable" phone. So, not sure what you recommend. =)
Thanks already!! =)=)
Helmet321 said:
Hi!!,
Thanks so much for your reply!
Funny as, I was JUST reading your guide. Awesome work man, very informative.=)=) and it would of taken some time to compile!. =/
Arm, I'm just wondering what file I need to backup to got back to the rom I'm on now? I want to be able to go back, if needed.
I don’t know what kernels are all about, and what do I need to do about Radios?? If I have the wrong one or something, does that mean I wont have signal?? Or bad call/signal reliability?
I'm looking at the build 23 of AOKP...I'm hearing its the go...and if i have a wrong kernal rom radio combo, what’s that going to do??, that’s if they correlate?? haha
Is security as issue?? Since these are built "freely" is there any exposure of private info?
I'm sorry for smashing you with all this, I'm just trying to get all the info before I do anything and to have a failsafe if I need to return for warranty.... =/
Thank you in advance!!! =)
Cheers.
P.S. Is Bigxie Apex?? I hear good things about that too!! haha. Its so hard, theres so many out there... Apex, Gummy, AOKP look great. I also really want a responsive, battery lasting, fast and importantly "stable" phone. So, not sure what you recommend. =)
Thanks already!! =)=)
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If you goto settings, about phone then it will tell you all about your current rom build. If its a yakju build then its a stock google rom and can easily be found and reflashed via my ToolKit. If its been put on by your operator then you wont be able to obtain it online and you are best backing it up (unless you dont mind putting the google stock rom back on).
To do that you will need to set your drivers up first. This is important as nothing else can be done without this step. If you have Windows xp or 7 then its pretty easy, you can install the drivers automatically via the GNex ToolKit, then reboot your pc. Goto settings, developer options on your phone and tick 'usb debugging' then connect the usb cable to your phone (with it booted into Android). This should install adb drivers which are needed for communication when your phone is booted into Android. Start the ToolKit and select your current build version (which can be found in settings, about phone). At the top of the Main Menu you should see a serial number under adb mode which means your device is recognised in this mode. Select reboot options (19) in the ToolKit and Reboot phone to Fastboot (3). This is a bootloader mode for the phone outside of Android where you can flash and manipulate certain parts of your phone. As this mode is at a much lower level then the operating system it can be your saviour if your phone locks or wont start and you need to flash back to stock.
Once the phone has rebooted to fastboot mode the fastboot drivers should be installed on your pc. If nothing happens try unplugging and replugging the usb cable to initiate the drivers. If the drivers have installed before the ToolKit refreshes then you should now see the serial number at the top under fastboot mode this time. You NEED both fastboot and adb drivers installed on your pc for everything to work.
After the drivers have been set up you will need to Unlock the Bootloader to be able to have access to system areas on your phone. BE AWARE that unlocking the bootloader will erase EVERYTHING all data on your phone including the Internal Storage (virtual SD Card) so copy anything you need to from your Internal Storage accross to your pc and use the Backup option in the ToolKit to save any installed apps and associated user data that you want to keep. This is done in adb mode so your phone will need to be in Android.
If you want to back up your current Rom then Unlock the Bootloader, reboot your phone into Android, go through the setup quickly (as the phone will have been wiped), then goto settings developer options and enable usb debugging. Start the ToolKit and in the Main Menu select 19, 3 to reboot back to fastboot mode. Then you can BOOT into CWM Recovery without flashing it (9) and select backup/restore to backup your Rom/user data/boot image to a datestamped folder inside a folder called Clockworkmod on your Internal Storage. The rebooting into Android step after unlocking the Bootloader is important as cwm will not work properly without doing that.
Once that is all done you are ready to reboot into Android from cwm, get back to fastboot mode as before and select 1-click option (7). You will get a message on the unlock stage saying that your device is already unlocked but then it will just skip to the next stage. Be aware that when the device boots into Android the first time this is to let the user enable usb debugging for adb operations and if you have already done this then the ToolKit will wait for about 3 minutes before carrying on. Be patient as the ToolKit hasnt frozen, its just set to pause before carrying on.
Ok now thats all over with, on to your other questions lol. I would advise trying either romanbb's AOKP (build 24 should be up today) or bigxie's Apex 1.02 to start. Personally I use Apex as it has loads of customisation and runs very well but saying that I will be trying romanbb's new build when it is out.
Kernels are like the drivers of your phone. They set up how it works and what it can do. Custom Kernels can give better battery life and more power, performance, stability so its well worth trying them once you are rooted. They will tell you what builds they are compatable with but if you are thinking about the above Roms then you will be on Android build 4.0.3 and most new kernels work with that. I use franco's kernel but there are ALOT of established kernel developers working with the Nexus so you could try fugumod by nikademus or trinity by morfic. These are all flashed via cwm (download file, copy to Internal Memory, reboot to recovery mode once you have cwm flashed). You can enter cwm by rebooting to fastboot and using the volume buttons to select recovery, then press power to select, or from the reboot phone options in the ToolKit (19,4 in adb mode).
Bootloaders and Baseband/Radio updates are something to think about but not really needed if your phone is running fine. You wont notice any change if you update the bootloader as its just like updating your bios on a pc. Just gives some extra functionality or updates some deep down settings. Radios control the communication part of your phone and updating to a new one may improve battery, signal, wifi, gps lock. You can update them by either grabbing a premade zip and flashing via cwm or download the .img file and flash that via the ToolKit.
Dont worry about malware included in custom roms as long as its by an established developer. They would never put anything dangerous to the end user in one of their roms as it would harm their reputation and if anything was found by a user the rom would be taken down imediately by us mods to keep you safe.
I think thats everything you will ever need to know lol. Sorry theres alot I wanted to make sure you had all the ammunition you needed to continue and it took soo long to write I had lunch half way through
good luck.
Mark.
Ohhh man, thank you sooo much. That’s a lot of info and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me Mark. Thank you!!!!
Ok, I’ve been watching some videos, one off of GalaxyNexusRoot.com. I think its his YouTube chan… He's seems pretty cool. Shows you what to do. I sort of want to do it manually so I'm understanding it all?, if that makes sense? I like to know exactly what my device is doing, why and how? haha. I'm a bit pedantic like that.
Arm, only a couple of things....I'm draining your life here...haha
I have a Samsung updated Gnex, throwing that in FYI. =) Not sure if the warranty centre would realise, probably so I should back it up as it is...on this note quickly, I do want to have a yakju (Google) updated phone though...hehe.
When I back up, does it flash everything? the rom, kernels and radios? (Mostly for my Stock setup for reversion, and understanding...)
With roms, where can I get the G'apps from? (If needed) And or the SupUser/Root files? (Separately I mean, so I can do this manually...if I'm understanding it properly... =/ )
Also, do these apps and others update as normal? Or di i have to update the whole ROM to update them? Like Maps (Navigation more importantly), GTalk, MarketPlace etc...?
And finally....phew...haha arm, sorry....
I'm looking at doing this because currently my device just seems a little non-responsive, laggy-ish and its turned off once.. =/ Is this all normal?? I thought for a minute my screen was faulty, like touches don’t always respond...I mean 90% of the time they do...I know, I'm nuts but it just ruins it for me... I uninstalled Beautiful Widgets and it’s sort of been better…maybe some apps aren’t configured with ICS yet also…I'm thinking it just could be the build? What do you think??
It's kind of weird to think that an individual dev has made. and is making more progress than the developers of the phone/software?? hahah...Anyway, I hope I've made some sense and I really, really, really appreciate all this Mark, all your time and patience with me. =)
Thanks again!!!!
P.S.... This should be it I SWEAR!! haha....
Just wanted to put these here...these are "some" of the problems I've been having... =/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487946
Thank you...again!!!
I just want to thank the OP for asking the right questions and taking the time to figure out how "hack" his/her phone correctly instead of jumping in blind.
I hope other beginners follow the OP's lead.
That is all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Helmet321 said:
Ohhh man, thank you sooo much. That’s a lot of info and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me Mark. Thank you!!!!
Ok, I’ve been watching some videos, one off of GalaxyNexusRoot.com. I think its his YouTube chan… He's seems pretty cool. Shows you what to do. I sort of want to do it manually so I'm understanding it all?, if that makes sense? I like to know exactly what my device is doing, why and how? haha. I'm a bit pedantic like that.
Arm, only a couple of things....I'm draining your life here...haha
I have a Samsung updated Gnex, throwing that in FYI. =) Not sure if the warranty centre would realise, probably so I should back it up as it is...on this note quickly, I do want to have a yakju (Google) updated phone though...hehe.
When I back up, does it flash everything? the rom, kernels and radios? (Mostly for my Stock setup for reversion, and understanding...)
With roms, where can I get the G'apps from? (If needed) And or the SupUser/Root files? (Separately I mean, so I can do this manually...if I'm understanding it properly... =/ )
Also, do these apps and others update as normal? Or di i have to update the whole ROM to update them? Like Maps (Navigation more importantly), GTalk, MarketPlace etc...?
And finally....phew...haha arm, sorry....
I'm looking at doing this because currently my device just seems a little non-responsive, laggy-ish and its turned off once.. =/ Is this all normal?? I thought for a minute my screen was faulty, like touches don’t always respond...I mean 90% of the time they do...I know, I'm nuts but it just ruins it for me... I uninstalled Beautiful Widgets and it’s sort of been better…maybe some apps aren’t configured with ICS yet also…I'm thinking it just could be the build? What do you think??
It's kind of weird to think that an individual dev has made. and is making more progress than the developers of the phone/software?? hahah...Anyway, I hope I've made some sense and I really, really, really appreciate all this Mark, all your time and patience with me. =)
Thanks again!!!!
P.S.... This should be it I SWEAR!! haha....
Just wanted to put these here...these are "some" of the problems I've been having... =/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487946
Thank you...again!!!
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A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.
What does stock stand for?
udmbrian said:
What does stock stand for?
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It means the version that the manufacturer put on the phone before it was shipped or a version that is supplied by the manufacturer. Unaltered by developers.
Mark.
mskip said:
A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.
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Thanks again!!!!
Ok cool. So when new versions of the apps come out on the market, I wont be able to update them normally will I? Which is ok but just wondering how that is going to go down. Haha.
Lastly, sorry man, I'm almost there. Haha. CWM doesn't backup kernel? Like my stock one?
So it basically makes a "phone" image, ExtPartition and all? Or can you choose these options?
Right, I'm so close now I reckon, today will be the day... I can feel it!!! Haha.
Thank you again!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Helmet321 said:
Thanks again!!!!
Ok cool. So when new versions of the apps come out on the market, I wont be able to update them normally will I? Which is ok but just wondering how that is going to go down. Haha.
Lastly, sorry man, I'm almost there. Haha. CWM doesn't backup kernel? Like my stock one?
So it basically makes a "phone" image, ExtPartition and all? Or can you choose these options?
Right, I'm so close now I reckon, today will be the day... I can feel it!!! Haha.
Thank you again!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Yes of course you can update google apps via the market as normal.
Cwm will back up your boot image which contains the kernel. So yes it does back up the kernel.
You can not choose which options to back up but you can choose which parts you want to restore via the advanced restore option in cwm.
Let me know how it all goes
Mark.
El Daddy said:
I just want to thank the OP for asking the right questions and taking the time to figure out how "hack" his/her phone correctly instead of jumping in blind.
I hope other beginners follow the OP's lead.
That is all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Hey El Daddy,
Thanks man. I try to reframe from being a pain in butt.... not sure how I've gone with that but, Haha. I appreciate what your saying. I just want to be sure what I'm doing and to have, as Mark said, all the "ammo" I need.
Cheers.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Great questions and answers from both of you. Just got this phone and trying to figure out where to start. Briefly read the toolkit instructions. Just haven't had the time to sit down and plow through it. Thanks both of you.
mskip said:
A cwm backup will back up system, data, boot, recovery and cache but it will not back up your radio image so check your version in the about phone screen first so you know what you need.
The latest gapps flashable zip can be found in the development forum. Did the youtube channel not give a link to the root files? If not then I have attached the 2 files you need to push. Make sure to set their permissions too after pushing.
Without knowing exactly what you have put on your phone its hard to comment about responsiveness but as stock roms dont have all the optimisations that custom roms have they are definitely slower. A custom rom and kernel will surely sort out your problems
Mark.
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Thanks so much again Mark...This is Great!!
Ok, just before I do this...I'm like right here at the PC...ready! haha...
I understand all of it now, well. in theory...
Thank you for the DL link to the root.zip...
I DL'd the android SDK Kit zip also, but there’s no fastboot.exe??? Or anything like what I need?? haha, I may just be missing something here...
One of you links on you manual guide is broken...I think, that’s where you had it...I didnt want to harass you again but just some final things. =)
I'm really after all of what I need to this manually...for knowledge etc?? Hope you understand... You made this wicked awesome Kit, and I'm stupid and not using it...hahah...
So as far as I can see, I need:
- Samsung Drivers - which I have and that bits done... =)
- fasboot.exe etc (Android SDK Gear)
- Latest CWM.zip
- **Rom of my choice, which I'm going to take your advice and go with Apex. =) Latest 1.02 yeah??
- Franco Kernel, I'll try stock, but my feeling on it is that that’s probably been my major issue, or the cause of most of them... =)
Phew....I think that’s it...am I on the right track??
I cant thank you enough with all this Mark....seriously...your a very patience man. haha
Cheers. =)
**Update**
P.S. I have attached a file. Mark can you check it out and see if that what I need in regards to Android SDK stuff? I just got this now after I posted the above....
Thanks again... =)
***Update...again....haha***
Arm, just looking at these files, whats the boot.img? does that get copied over to the phone? Or is it just a command? The su & Superuser files in this zip are like a different size and modified later than your ones (newer??? =/)....I'm not sure what that would really mean...probably has nothing to do with anything but just thought I'd check with you....
Helmet321 said:
Thanks so much again Mark...This is Great!!
Ok, just before I do this...I'm like right here at the PC...ready! haha...
I understand all of it now, well. in theory...
Thank you for the DL link to the root.zip...
I DL'd the android SDK Kit zip also, but there’s no fastboot.exe??? Or anything like what I need?? haha, I may just be missing something here...
One of you links on you manual guide is broken...I think, that’s where you had it...I didnt want to harass you again but just some final things. =)
I'm really after all of what I need to this manually...for knowledge etc?? Hope you understand... You made this wicked awesome Kit, and I'm stupid and not using it...hahah...
So as far as I can see, I need:
- Samsung Drivers - which I have and that bits done... =)
- fasboot.exe etc (Android SDK Gear)
- Latest CWM.zip
- **Rom of my choice, which I'm going to take your advice and go with Apex. =) Latest 1.02 yeah??
- Franco Kernel, I'll try stock, but my feeling on it is that that’s probably been my major issue, or the cause of most of them... =)
Phew....I think that’s it...am I on the right track??
I cant thank you enough with all this Mark....seriously...your a very patience man. haha
Cheers. =)
**Update**
P.S. I have attached a file. Mark can you check it out and see if that what I need in regards to Android SDK stuff? I just got this now after I posted the above....
Thanks again... =)
***Update...again....haha***
Arm, just looking at these files, whats the boot.img? does that get copied over to the phone? Or is it just a command? The su & Superuser files in this zip are like a different size and modified later than your ones (newer??? =/)....I'm not sure what that would really mean...probably has nothing to do with anything but just thought I'd check with you....
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Looks like everything in that zip is ok for what you want to do. The superuser.apk is a different size but im sure it doesnt matter.
In order to push the 2 files across to your phone you need to have booted into Android using an insecure boot image. This is a stock boot.img that has has some simple text changes to allow temporary root access (otherwise the files wouldnt copy across) Using fastboot you boot the boot.img file and then once you are in Android you push the files across and set their permissions. When you reboot your phone your original boot image will be used and you should have permanent root via the files.
Looks like you are all set
MArk.
Oh ok. So it doesn't stay on the phone?, its temporary??
So if this file say, is corrupted or malicious, (not really possible probably byt...) I'm in trouble? haha
Sorry, I have everything I think now, I grabbed the SDK of the Android website and I'm comfortable with that cause its "legit" I suppose. It doesn't have a boot.img file though. Can I make one myself so I know where its coming from? And where does this normally come from?
Silly stuff I know but, I told you, I'm CRAZY!! haha....
One very last thing...the permissions, whats that part all about...
Other than that, I'm pretty sure I'm sweet now...I also grabbed the latest CWM zip off the website too...so I'm cool with that.
......geez.... I'm killing you aren't I....I think you deserve (need) at LEAST 1 beer after all this....haha...
Thanks x 1,000,000...seriously.... =)
Helmet321 said:
Oh ok. So it doesn't stay on the phone?, its temporary??
So if this file say, is corrupted or malicious, (not really possible probably byt...) I'm in trouble? haha
Sorry, I have everything I think now, I grabbed the SDK of the Android website and I'm comfortable with that cause its "legit" I suppose. It doesn't have a boot.img file though. Can I make one myself so I know where its coming from? And where does this normally come from?
Silly stuff I know but, I told you, I'm CRAZY!! haha....
One very last thing...the permissions, whats that part all about...
Other than that, I'm pretty sure I'm sweet now...I also grabbed the latest CWM zip off the website too...so I'm cool with that.
......geez.... I'm killing you aren't I....I think you deserve (need) at LEAST 1 beer after all this....haha...
Thanks x 1,000,000...seriously.... =)
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Its perfectly possible to make your own boot image but to be honest you might take another day or 2 to get all the required components and research what you need to do lol
If you go to your settings, about phone screen and tell me the build version (4.0.1, 4.0.2) and whether its a gsm or lte device (im assuming gsm as lte is america/canada) then I will attach the boot image I made for that device so it will definitely be right and safe. You can also use the su and superuser.apk files I attached earlier if you are unsure about them.
I dont mind all the questions as long as you end up feeling confident enough to get your phone rooted mate I would rather people ask too many (but the right) questions than just go blindly into something have no understanding about and end up in trouble.
Mark.
Your a legend Mark, I swear!!....haha
Ok, well, its a GSM, 4.0.2 Samsung updated Nexus....I think... I can attach some images. =)
The end of the line here...haha, arm, I just watched a video that completely skipped the boot.img part...weird...anyway, with the "su" part, I have 2 files there, as you've kindly provided, but in that step doesnt it need to be a su.zip sort of configuration? Just running it by you before I do this...
P.S....again....haha, arm, if I'm thinking about this right, does the step with "fastboot boot boot.img" will that affect the stock image?? As I think, if I'm right you have to do that "before" you flash your recovery?? In my mind would it be right in assuming....
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash recovery
-Make a Back up (so to get all the rom, including the auto restore recovery??)
-Set SU perms...with su.zip or su+superuser.apk... (if I'm right also, this step only if you want root perms on stock?, not sure what you would do with it though, only if you want to remain this way I suppose... =/ )
Is this right??
I was reading your "manual" post and I'm a little confused...as in, you cant reboot into Android after flashing recovery (to back up) as it will delete it, but to do so, you need to reboot into Android to delete the auto recovery flash file?? And you need su perms yeah?? Am I right here, I'm probably going crazy-ier...haha cause I've been at this for 2 days...haha...
Seems the boot.img step is the same as if you would flash a su.zip...(which I dont have, only the su file (no extension) and the su.apk...) not sure if thats the same...just getting my head around it here.... =)
Maybe I'm thinking CWM will "back up" the su perms etc and affect the "stock rom"...if you back it up with the perms, wouldnt that be included?? Maybe thats were I'm getting it wrong...haha.
Finally...........serious.....
If and when you delete the auto recovery file (if that really does delete it completly, I'm probably wrong about that too...) how does it restore??
Thanks mate. =)=)
I think thats it...when I have my head around these final things...and the last couple of files...Its time.... =)=)
Helmet321 said:
Your a legend Mark, I swear!!....haha
Ok, well, its a GSM, 4.0.2 Samsung updated Nexus....I think... I can attach some images. =)
The end of the line here...haha, arm, I just watched a video that completely skipped the boot.img part...weird...anyway, with the "su" part, I have 2 files there, as you've kindly provided, but in that step doesnt it need to be a su.zip sort of configuration? Just running it by you before I do this...
P.S....again....haha, arm, if I'm thinking about this right, does the step with "fastboot boot boot.img" will that affect the stock image?? As I think, if I'm right you have to do that "before" you flash your recovery?? In my mind would it be right in assuming....
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash recovery
-Make a Back up
-Set SU perms...with su.zip or su+superuser.apk...
Is this right??
I was reading your "manual" post and I'm a little confused...as in, you cant reboot into Android after flashing recovery (to back up) as it will delete it, but to do so, you need to reboot into Android to delete the auto recovery flash file?? And you need su perms yeah?? Am I right here, I'm probably going crazy-ier...haha cause I've been at this for 2 days...haha...
Seems the boot.img step is the same as if you would flash a su.zip...(which I dont have, only the su file (no extension) and the su.apk...) not sure if thats the same...just getting my head around it here.... =)
Maybe I'm thinking CWM will "back up" the su perms etc and affect the "stock rom"...if you back it up with the perms, wouldnt that be included?? Maybe thats were I'm getting it wrong...haha.
Finally...........serious.....
If and when you delete the auto recovery file (if that really does delete it completly, I'm probably wrong about that too...) how does it restore??
Thanks mate. =)=)
I think thats it...when I have my head around these final things...and the last couple of files...Its time.... =)=)
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There are 2 ways of rooting your phone. The easier (and non learning way) is to flash cwm recovery and flash the superuser.zip straight to the phone. If this is what you watched then tbh you might as well be using my ToolKit as you wont learn anything from the experience. The other way is the method my ToolKit uses which is to boot the phone with the insecure boot image to gain temporary root, then using adb to push the 2 files that I sent to your phone and set their permissions, then rebooting to complete the root procedure. The 2nd method is the one I thought you was gearing up towards and the best way if you want to actually learn something, otherwise as I said you may as well use the ToolKit.
I have attached every file you will need for the 2nd method and if yo uread below these are the instructions you will need to follow to root your phone. Extract the attached files to a folder on your pc, browse to this folder then HOLD the Shift button on your pc while right clicking on a blank area of the Windows Explorer. Select 'Open command window here' which will open a command prompt in the correct folder where your adb and fastboot files are.
These instructions are for after you have installed drivers:
fastboot-toolkit devices
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this will return a serial number if your drivers are installed.
fastboot-toolkit oem unlock
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and follow the instructions on the phone to unlock your bootloader.
Now if you boot into Android RIGHT after unlocking the bootloader it will restart the boot half way through so you want to do this normally BEFORE using your insecure boot or the reboot half way through will lose your insecure access (if you get me)
fastboot-toolkit reboot
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to get your first boot in. Once the phone has booted up and you have gone through the setup wizard, go to settings, developer tools and select 'usb debugging' to enable adb control.
adb-toolkit devices
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should return a serial number if your adb drivers are installed.
adb-toolkit reboot bootloader
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to get back into fastboot so you can boot from the insecure boot image
fastboot-toolkit boot boot_gsm_ICL53F_insecure.img
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to boot your phone into Android from the insecrure boot image. Once your phone has booted into the lockscreen you can carry on with
adb-toolkit root
adb-toolkit remount
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to mount your /system folder for root access.
adb-toolkit push su /system/bin
adb-toolkit push Superuser.apk /system/app
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pushes the 2 files across to the correct folders on your phone.
adb-toolkit shell chmod 06755 /system/bin/su
adb-toolkit shell chmod 06755 /system/app/Superuser.apk
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sets their correct permissions.
Lastly if you are flashing cwm then you will need to rename the recovery restore file if you are on a samsung rom. If this file is present on your phone and cwm is flashed, then on the next reboot the stock recovery will be restored and you will lose cwm. To get back to stock recovery in the future you just flash a stock recovery image.
adb-toolkit shell mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p /system/recovery-from-boot.p-old
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will rename the file is it is present.
Thats it! Reboot your phone and you should have root You can check this by downloading root checker from the market or just download a root app such as adfree or setcpu.
Mark.
I see you are replying to my thread already as I was making some changes so re-read the instructions as I rearranged them a bit to make more sense lol.
MArk.
There are some .zip files that I will install in recovery mode and will confirm installation. When I reboot the phone, the apps or mods that I install will not have installed. I am stock rooted on Galaxy Note 2 on JB. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks
Need more info.. and re word it a lil..and what mods are u flashing in what sequence?
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Ok. Example: Say I take a .zip file that you have made for me and I download it. I boot into recovery mode and find the file and flash it, gives me the message that it has completed but when the phone reboots it's no where to be found. Did it not install or is there a place I need to look on my phone that it might be hidden?
just because its a zip file, doesnt mean it has the install routine baked into it..
As Twansky said, what is the file, and what is it for?
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just because its a zip file, doesnt mean it has the install routine baked into it..
As Twansky said, what is the file, and what is it for?
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Ok. The files that I've tried would be mods for toggles, keyboards, and different add ons. For the most part, all of the files that I've flashed have worked. The ones that didn't work I'm not disappointed that they didn't, I was just wondering if possibly there was something or somewhere that I needed to look to see if they actually did but needed to activate per say. Could you explain what you mean by "install routine baked in" please. I'm a noob and learning everyday.
Thank you
some of those zip files, were probably just a bunch of individual files, zipped up to save room, and make them just 1 file insted of many..
a "flashable" zip file will have a few folders, one being meta.inf, another being system, along with some others...
post one of those zips that you are having a problem with here, and we will take a look at it..
what ^^^^^^^^^^ Said....g
Wase, let me see if I still have them on my phone. I know a couple that I tried were rom specific but one worked and one didn't. Those are the ones I expected not to work. Give me a minute to see what I still have.
http://db.tt/kXFyYyIJ
This is one that didn't work that is for ROM XXDLL4. Another file that I downloaded is the glass dialer did work. What I guess I'm asking is, why would one work but not the other. I know these were fir that specific rom, I'm just confused on why one would work and not the other.
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Sorry, I did not answer that part.
Boot into recovery>Find location where file was downloaded>Click to install>Confirm install>Install confirmed>Reboot.
I have tried wiping cache and not wiping cache.
Open up these "zips" and look inside..
yeah, it was a flashable zip..no idea why it wouldnt work, but, as you said, this is not a mod for our phone specifically, so that might be why..Just like anything else electronic, not every rom/mod/flashable file is going to work on every phone; thats just the way it is...
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yeah, it was a flashable zip..no idea why it wouldnt work, but, as you said, this is not a mod for our phone specifically, so that might be why..Just like anything else electronic, not every rom/mod/flashable file is going to work on every phone; thats just the way it is...
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Exactly... use caution flashing "flashable" zips unless you know for a fact it accomodates your specific device. You need to look in the META-INF folder and review the updater-script. In there you will see specific BLKs (partitions) which are mounted/extracted/written/unmounted. Devices don't all use the exact same "/dev/block/mmcblk0xx" for /system or /data partitions. Some of these scripts are fairly universal but I've seen others which call specific devblock partitions.
Thank you everyone for the help on this. I finally got brave enough about a hour ago and flashed a custom rom fir the first time.
Thanks again for all the help and info.
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SOLUTION FOUND, much thanks to @DocHoliday77
See here for "bootanimation", "bootsamsung", and "bootsamsungloop" files or bottom of this post.
I unziped and I copied "bootanimation" to /system/bin and changed the permissions, I only needed the "bootanimation" file, I had to change permissions to rwe-re-re, other combinations might work/be better. If someone needs to use the other two files, they go in /system/media
Again, credit to @DocHoliday77 for the files!
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Hey everyone,
So, I tried changing my boot animation, and now I don't have any (it's just a black screen with the original sound)
(I'm on Candian Telus, with 4.4.2)
Basically what I'm asking/looking for is someone to attach a couple files off there phone so I can replace the ones that were altered through this tutorial, and hopefully get a boot animation back.
I'm not 100% sure if I need all of these, or if I may need more, but I have a pretty good idea of what was likely altered:
/system/bin/bootanimation (the extension-less file, this is one that I'm positive that got altered)
/system/bin/samsungani (possibly just and additon fr tutorial, unsure if needed. Information on if others have it would be awesome)
Any information on my situation would be amazing!
Have you tried factory reset (you'll lose data this way)?
Can you flash your ROM again (data will be wiped though)?
OKAstro said:
Have you tried factory reset (you'll lose data this way)?
Can you flash your ROM again (data will be wiped though)?
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No, I haven't tried either. I'm trying to avoid losing any data, if possible.
Also, I'm not sure if it will fix the problem since the files have been altered directly. (I'm not sure if it will just reset with the file it has now or not)
Any thoughts?
Factory resetting won't help since boot animation is on /system.
If you can't find them here you can always copy them from a stock rom.
Make sure the binary file is from the same build as your current rom. It might not matter, but it just might.
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Factory resetting won't help since boot animation is on /system.
If you can't find them here you can always copy them from a stock rom.
Make sure the binary file is from the same build as your current rom. It might not matter, but it just might.
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Yeah, I'm really hoping someone is nice enough to copy and paste their bootanimation file in here, but I doubt it'll happen...
Any tips/ideas on how to go about copying from a stock rom? (I'm new to a lot of this stuff, so I'm unsure of how to go about this)
you can search on google and download boot animations.
but like doc said , ' make sure is from same build cause it might just matter. i DL cm 10.1 from internet and works great .
just a thought.
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@mrrocketdog
It's not so much a boot animation itself that I'm having trouble with, but the actual system file called "bootanimation".
I believe when I tried to install a custom animation I/the files from a tutorial I was using altered it, and now it doesn't work whatsoever.
If you know of any boot animation tutorials/files that could fix this though that would be sick!
Either way thanks for the input!
You can try these if you like. I'm running Likewise rom right now, but they should work fine for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2969141&stc=1&d=1413149765
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You can try these if you like. I'm running Likewise rom right now, but they should work fine for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2969141&stc=1&d=1413149765
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I love you. At first it didn't work but I changed some permission and now it's back to stock! Thank you sooo much!
Not to to add further trouble, but to prevent any future mishaps, could you point me in the right direction to getting a custom boot animation running?
maybe here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2843830
if you use search a whole lot pops up.
good luck. :thumbup:
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There should be a thread(s) in the Themes and Apps section. I wouldn't use any not confirmed or made for the S3 though. And I wouldn't mess with that binary file either. (Unless specifically told to do so in one of our threads.) Any we have here should work fine just using the actual animation files.
Some threads may also have a return to stock zip file you can flash in recovery.
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think thats o.k. doc ? so maybe be REAL FREAKIN CAREFUL.
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Alright guys, sounds like a plan. I'll make sure to be a whole lot more careful this time around! Thanks a bunch!
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think thats o.k. doc ? so maybe be REAL FREAKIN CAREFUL.
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Are you referring to the one you linked to? To be perfectly honest I wouldn't try it. It was for the HTC One, right? I just don't know enough about HTC devices. It might be safe to use the animation, but it may just not work. (I doubt there'd be much danger of a hard brick though, but better safe....)
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yup, thats the one. i forget sometimes : READ READ READ. thanks for double checking behind me. will be more careful in future. dont want to cause xtra problems !!!!!!
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No problem. It could be perfectly ok to use, but since I don't know, I consider it a higher risk is all. Another thing to consider is if it's dpi is different the images probably wouldn't display correctly.
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@DocHoliday77
So after a while of researching I was thinking of downloading CyanogenMod, and the using that to do boot animation stuff, thoughts?
As long as it's from the S3 versions of cm, I believe it would be safe to try. Probably the worst that might occur would be no animation, like you already experienced. I don't use CM though, and don't really mess with the boot animation much to begin with, so it is possible it wouldn't work as expected, I'm just not sure on that. But it should be simple enough to get back to the stock animation with the files I posted before.
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Yeah, I guess that's really the worse that could happen, I've made a backup of my stock ROM so I should be able to go back if needed. Again, thanks for all the help!
So my stock, rooted boot animation was getting boring So, I saw a cool Iron Man JARVIS boot that I wanted on my SM-T800 but it was .ZIP and apparently Samsung only use QMG so I open Rom Tool Box, then went to Rom Extras and then Samsung and select to install Binarys for .ZIP instead of QMG - it rebooted and there was a black screen and just boot sound. I then placed the .zip files and rebooted and it was the same, black screen no image and just sound. So I tried to get my original boot screen back and tried to do the recover QMG option, only TWRP loads does something for 2 seconds I see red failed writing and my Tab reboots to nothing but a black screen and boot sound. I've tried multiple times and it never works. I've pasted my original Samsungboot.qmg back into /system/media (where I took it from) but it still don't work.
As is evident, I'm a complete noob, so really need some help here and I figured one of you good gentlemen would help me. I'll state it again, I'm a noob (or idiot for messing with what I don't know, whatever you want to call it) so some advice or help I can follow would be much appreciated. Thanks guys.
Make sure you set the permissions of the files to the same as the rest in that folder.
Also wipe cache and dalvik in twrp.
Ok done both of those and it's still just a black screen with boot sound on start up.
Thanks for the help so far man, I really appreciate it.
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Ok done both of those and it's still just a black screen with boot sound on start up.
Thanks for the help so far man, I really appreciate it.
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The easiest way to fix is to just reflash the stock rom then reroot.
Aw man. Was hoping to avoid that.
Where would I find the stock ROM?
Is it this that I need Ashyx? http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/49140/T800XXU1BOCC_T800BTU1BOC1_BTU/
UK version of the Galaxy Tab S WiFi model.
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Aw man. Was hoping to avoid that.
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Why, it won't affect your personal data?
Are you UK Region?
I thought it would delete everything? Yes, I'm in the UK.
Thanks for the help man.
Ashyx, I just flash that file with Odin the same way I did when I used your Root tutorial right?
I's still be able to follow the below guide to gain root again, yes?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
Or could I use TWRP that installed with your guide to install the above file?
You can use Flashfire to install, it will root at the same time or just root afterwards with odin if you have already tripped Knox.
I've never used Flashfire, can't see any guides, would be more confortable with Odin Since I've used it before.
Would I need to install TWRP again? Would like to just follow your whole guife again, not much chance of me messing it up then. Yeah I've already trippes Knox, so not worried about that. Thanks for your help man.
In that case just install with odin and then run cf_autoroot.
Ok I'll do that. Thanks man.
Quick update, to say that it did indeed fix the error, so thanks Ashyx.