So I have done this trick on my Nexus 5X as well. When you register your fingerprint for the first time, alternately put your left and right fingers and it will merge both as one fingerprint pattern. Voila, you can unlock your phone with any of those two fingers you have registered. Registering multiple patterns will slow down the authentication so this is nifty right?
Joms_US said:
So I have done this trick on my Nexus 5X as well. When you register your fingerprint for the first time, alternately put your left and right fingers and it will merge both as one fingerprint pattern. Voila, you can unlock your phone with any of those two fingers you have registered. Registering multiple patterns will slow down the authentication so this is nifty right?
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Who told you that registering multiple fingerprints will slow it down? Never heard of that, on contrary actually, if you register same print twice, it usually works faster.
Veidas said:
Who told you that registering multiple fingerprints will slow it down? Never heard of that, on contrary actually, if you register same print twice, it usually works faster.
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Imagine you have a database/table of 1000 passcodes. Your app will loop through it up to 100 times until it matches the one currently provided. FP scanning just look for partial pattern and will not try the next pattern if there is a match already. We are talking about milliseconds difference here.
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Imagine you have a database/table of 1000 passcodes. Your app will loop through it up to 100 times until it matches the one currently provided. FP scanning just look for partial pattern and will not try the next pattern if there is a match already. We are talking about milliseconds difference here.
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So no proof, just your logical thinking, which doesnt really apply here, cause its right there in sensor hardware documention, time it takes to scan and its not dependant on whether there is 1 or 4 fingerprints scanned[emoji14]i mean there might be difference of 0.0001s, but its ridiculous to even think somebody could feel that lol
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So no proof, just your logical thinking, which doesnt really apply here, cause its right there in sensor hardware documention, time it takes to scan and its not dependant on whether there is 1 or 4 fingerprints scanned[emoji14]i mean there might be difference of 0.0001s, but its ridiculous to even think somebody could feel that lol
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If you think like a developer, you will understand better. ?
Joms_US said:
So I have done this trick on my Nexus 5X as well. When you register your fingerprint for the first time, alternately put your left and right fingers and it will merge both as one fingerprint pattern. Voila, you can unlock your phone with any of those two fingers you have registered. Registering multiple patterns will slow down the authentication so this is nifty right?
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Another thing that helps, probably more with not getting misreads than speed though, is rotating the phone around your finger, getting in all the angles. Also turn your print a little. I always done this on phones and pretty much never get a misread. Works like 99.9% of the time, unless my finger's wet or greasy or something.
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Doesnt matter how i think, 0.0001s wont make a difference lol
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After 12 years of research in Artificial Intelligence, I can say that you've applied the layman logic to a domain you have no clue about. Developers do not think like that. 1000 entries in a table don't even account for any significant difference. As the matter of fact, only when the entries goes into million entries range, that's when some optimization/redesign is needed.
Moreover, the fingerprint scanner works on the pattern recognition part of artificial intelligence algorithms. One such example is Neural Network algorithm. An extra scan doesn't mean an extra entry in the table is added. An extra scan of your fingerprint goes through one time algorithm as input parameters and then performs tweaking of already existing entry.
Besides, if you do two fingers scans on one finger entry on phone then you will cause the algorithm to tweak the parameters such that it will take longer to get the recognition done.
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After 12 years of research in Artificial Intelligence, I can say that you've applied the layman logic to a domain you have no clue about. Developers do not think like that. 1000 entries in a table don't even account for any significant difference. As the matter of fact, only when the entries goes into million entries range, that's when some optimization/redesign is needed.
Moreover, the fingerprint scanner works on the pattern recognition part of artificial intelligence algorithms. One such example is Neural Network algorithm. An extra scan doesn't mean an extra entry in the table is added. An extra scan of your fingerprint goes through one time algorithm as input parameters and then performs tweaking of already existing entry.
Besides, if you do two fingers scans on one finger entry on phone then you will cause the algorithm to tweak the parameters such that it will take longer to get the recognition done.
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Sure if the hardware can read 1000 entries in parallel while scanning them against the fingerprint then you are making sense.
There are reasons why the phone is storing each set of pattern separately. One is for example to isolate valid and invalid print which both can be used to unlock or just launch the camera.
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Sure if the hardware can read 1000 entries in parallel while scanning them against the fingerprint then you are making sense.
There are reasons why the phone is storing each set of pattern separately. One is for example to isolate valid and invalid print which both can be used to unlock or just launch the camera.
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You missing the point here. In Artificial Intelligence, supervised or unsupervised learning algorithms do not save each entry. Even though you make it learn your one finger 1 million, just a few parameters will change in the model. They tweak the optimized neural network. Go do some reading on how Neural Nets work.
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You missing the point here. In Artificial Intelligence, supervised or unsupervised learning algorithms do not save each entry. Even though you make it learn your one finger 1 million, just a few parameters will change in the model. They tweak the optimized neural network. Go do some reading on how Neural Nets work.
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Let's just say in real world testing this method makes no difference. I've tried both ways. No discernable change is speed or reliability
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You missing the point here. In Artificial Intelligence, supervised or unsupervised learning algorithms do not save each entry. Even though you make it learn your one finger 1 million, just a few parameters will change in the model. They tweak the optimized neural network. Go do some reading on how Neural Nets work.
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Yes the combination of multiple points is saved as one FP pattern. If you saved 5 patterns, the software will pass them to the hardware for recognition.
FP scanning does involve AI but that is not the concern here. The concern is, the software passes 5 patterns to match with the current FP pattern on the sensor. What is the point of saving them separately, if they will not be validated separately?
As I have said, unless the hardware can verify the pattern on the sensor with those 5 patterns at the same time (in parallel) then great, otherwise, a loop or serial validation will be made.
Is the fingerprint scanner always on or does the power button need to be pressed to wake it?
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Is the fingerprint scanner always on or does the power button need to be pressed to wake it?
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Always on
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Always on
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ceo.mtcl said:
After 12 years of research in Artificial Intelligence, I can say that you've applied the layman logic to a domain you have no clue about. Developers do not think like that. 1000 entries in a table don't even account for any significant difference. As the matter of fact, only when the entries goes into million entries range, that's when some optimization/redesign is needed.
Moreover, the fingerprint scanner works on the pattern recognition part of artificial intelligence algorithms. One such example is Neural Network algorithm. An extra scan doesn't mean an extra entry in the table is added. An extra scan of your fingerprint goes through one time algorithm as input parameters and then performs tweaking of already existing entry.
Besides, if you do two fingers scans on one finger entry on phone then you will cause the algorithm to tweak the parameters such that it will take longer to get the recognition done.
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To add, as a Software Engineer of only a couple years, I bet if you purposefully mess up the scanning process like OP instructs it is less accurate probably causing the system to slow down and try to figure out if the designs of the skin on one finger is close enough to a weird combination of 2 different fingers to allow you to pass. This could possibly have the side effect of incorrectly matching someone else's finger. This is a naive interpretation of how the matching algorithm might work, but significantly less naive then OP.
Just use the finger print reader as proscribed, if you want to use multiple fingers just scan in multiple fingers. The feature is there, why use a hack?
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To add, as a Software Engineer of only a couple years, I bet if you purposefully mess up the scanning process like OP instructs it is less accurate probably causing the system to slow down and try to figure out if the designs of the skin on one finger is close enough to a weird combination of 2 different fingers to allow you to pass. This could possibly have the side effect of incorrectly matching someone else's finger. This is a naive interpretation of how the matching algorithm might work, but significantly less naive then OP.
Just use the finger print reader as proscribed, if you want to use multiple fingers just scan in multiple fingers. The feature is there, why use a hack?
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No matter how you execute it, the FP service will loop
through the patterns you have saved and check if one pattern matches the print on the hardware. If one cannnot understand the very simple concept of looping then I am not sure how one consider themself a Software Engineer.
FP scanner on the phone works by checking if enough scanned points are matched, not lines, not the whole image. So by combining multiple points into one pattern, the FP service is able to authenticate quickly.
Whatever makes you guys feel better, no need to argue about such trivial issues.....
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There is just one disadvantage I have found of not using HTC's TouchFlo UI: when holding the phone to my ear there is no protection from my (large!) ear's pressing the touchscreen and causing havoc opening programs, etc. Does anyone know of a reg tweak or a third-party app that addresses this, utilising the G-sensor and light sensor and protecting the screen during calls?
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There is just one disadvantage I have found of not using HTC's TouchFlo UI: when holding the phone to my ear there is no protection from my (large!) ear's pressing the touchscreen and causing havoc opening programs, etc. Does anyone know of a reg tweak or a third-party app that addresses this, utilising the G-sensor and light sensor and protecting the screen during calls?
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BY default I thought in all roms the proximity sensor would turn the screen off when its pressed against our heads so buttons wouldnt get pushed?
If that doesnt work you can always just push the power button... which I sort of do by default for some reason anyway. But... yeah there is a way so the screen turns off when its close to your face. Someone else will chime in with it I'm sure.
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There is just one disadvantage I have found of not using HTC's TouchFlo UI: when holding the phone to my ear there is no protection from my (large!) ear's pressing the touchscreen and causing havoc opening programs, etc. Does anyone know of a reg tweak or a third-party app that addresses this, utilising the G-sensor and light sensor and protecting the screen during calls?
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I'm using the Titanium version without TouchFlo or Sense, and my screen turns off.
This is absolutely a feature of all versions of the TP2, and works regardless of whether TF is used of not. Have you tried a hard reset? Also, does flipping the phone onto its face during a call activate the speaker phone? This involves the proximity sensor (along with G-Sensor), so it might give you a clue if your proximity sensor is somehow disabled, etc.
I dug around the registry for a second, and found the following values under:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Proximity
Name: ProximityDetectStatus
Value: 0
Base: Decimel
Name: ProximitySensorOn
Value: 0
Base: Decimel
Name: PSensorDebounceTime
Value: 300
Base: Decimel
Name: UnexpectedWakeup
Value: 0
Base: Decimel
Some of the values seem counterintuitive (I would think the "ProximitySensorOn" would be 1, not 0). But in any case, it might help to check your registry settings.
Many thanks for your response.
To answer your questions: I've recently upgraded to WM6.1, but didn't like that and so flashed 6.1 back again, and in fact re-flashed that again the other day, so the machine has been through quite a series of hard resets of late, however to the best of my knowledge I have never had a working during-calls-screen-protect other than the brief period during which I was trying out TouchFlo when I first had the phone.
Yes, flipping the phone to activate the speaker works flawlessly, I use it often.
In my registry under HKLM\Software\HTC\Proximity; "ProximityDetectStatus" "ProximitySensorOn" and "UnexpectedWakeup" are indeed all set at "0". However I do not have an "UnexpectedWakeup" setting. Could this be the problem? If so, I'm afraid I'm a bit of a novice with reg tweeking, so would you mind talking me through setting that value?
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Many thanks for your response.
In my registry under HKLM\Software\HTC\Proximity; "ProximityDetectStatus" "ProximitySensorOn" and "UnexpectedWakeup" are indeed all set at "0". However I do not have an "UnexpectedWakeup" setting. Could this be the problem? If so, I'm afraid I'm a bit of a novice with reg tweeking, so would you mind talking me through setting that value?
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If you are using Total Commander, go to the appropriate location on the registry, and the first entry is "Add value". Select that, then pick "DWORD", type the name of the value (UnexpectedWakeup). Hit OK, then enter 0 for the value and select OK again.
If you are using another editor besides Total Commander, the process should be the same. I use TC, so I only know that exact process.
Are you flashing to an "official" 6.1 ROM, or a cooked ROM?
Did you run Task29 before flashing the new ROM? This will wipe/format the memory completely, and will sometimes clear up random problems. Its recommended to do this before flashing a cooked ROM, but I don't know if using an "official" ROM is a problem with Task29 or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
I'ver never heard of Task29!
However, firstly they were both "official" ROMs, from Vodafone, but secondly it seems the reg tweak has done the trick; the screen now Blanks when in call, as it should do. So all is well.
Many thanks indeed for that.
No problem. Happy to help.
But it was the "UnexpectedWakeup" entry that fixed it? That name/description doesn't really seem to fit. In fact, I can't even imagine what that description even refers to, lol!
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I'ver never heard of Task29!
However, firstly they were both "official" ROMs, from Vodafone,
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I don't know if there are any potential issues with using Task29 and official ROMs, I've only used it with cooked ROMs. Although, it seems like it would work and serve the exact same purpose. Task29 just guarantees that no fragments of the remaining ROM will interfere with the new ROM. It seems to help prevent random issues with cooked ROMs.
They say honesty is the best policy, so let me share with you what I have embarresingly discovered was actually the reason for my problem - especially remembering what this forum is for and that it might perhaps help anyone else with a similar issue:
I was told that a good way of testing the proximity sensor is to press your thumb against the loudspeaker during a call while looking at the screen. This did not work ... until I removed the plastic protection case! I have always had my phone protected by a two-piece plastic\silicon casing, and I've only now discovered that when this is on the phone the proximity sensor fails, but when removed it works perfectly! Thinking back that makes sense because when I first got the phone and was using TouchFlo the phone had no protective casing.
As it happens I've just bought an expensive cradle for the phone for my new car, which requires that I remove the plastic casing in order for it to fit, therefore the timing is good as it means I can now use the phone with a fully-working proximity sensor.
However, having dropped the phone only once in the year that I've owned it, don't you just know that the moment I start using it without the protective casing .... !
Just curious about what kind of security people use to unlock their phones. I played with the face unlock when I first got the GN but eventually got too impatient. I'm trying to decide if continuing to "Improve face matching" will eventually make it fast almost every time, or if I should just go ahead and switch to pattern or pin.
If you lock your phone, I found face unlock minimize touching the screen and thus less blur on screen
But sometimes I feel face unlock delay my logging into the phone in case I want to do something quick.... I still prefer pattern unlock
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I used to have no pin because I like the stock lockscreen and being able to put SMS phone etc in the slide to unlock. Now that aokp has the option for both I use pin and lockscreen. Feels like iPhone lock exactly
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I use pattern..but not for security reasons at all. I got tired of pocket dialing people.
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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Yeah, pin and password are the only two that are very secure, but I just use slide. My mentality is, I'd be much more concerned if someone got ahold of my wallet with all my cash, ids, cards, etc, but I don't put a lock on that. I just keep it with me all the time, same as my phone. I've never lost either and don't plan to! But I do have SeekDroid just in case.
Face Unlock, just so that when I get into the homescreen, JuiceDefender has turn on my Data Connection. Oh, and too impress friends too
Face Unlock.
It is much better than nothing and I don't want to key in the PIN every time the screen is locked.
I never carry my own photo with me other than the one on my driver license which I confirmed would not unlock my phone. So I don't see why people say Face Unlock is useless.
I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it
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Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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str355 said:
I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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how do you get the phone to send you the pic?
I like to use the pattern, but it gets annoying when I'm just sitting at home texting back and forth, as I have to unlock it every single time. I end up turning the security off lol. Sometimes I'm good and turn it back on when I leave the house.
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how do you get the phone to send you the pic?
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It's the cerberus app.
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Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.
Amowagou said:
After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.
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Under security settings click 'Owner info' to turn it on. Shows whatever message you want to the hopefully honest person who finds your phone. Only hitch is that if the phone is plugged in it just says "charging xx%" rather than the message. Don't know if that is a bug or if Google just figured that if your phone is plugged in it is probably not lost.
I'm using a PIN because I installed unlock with WiFi and it requires it. When I'm on a registered WiFi network I just slide to unlock.
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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also, i feel that pattern unlock can be easily seen & remembered by people standing behind you even from quite a distance, as compared to pin/password lock
No. I'm ugly enough and don't need to be reminded of it constantly.
Neat trick though.
i wish there is a slide --> pattern unlock. i want the quick camera access and pattern
I find NFC fascinating technology, and have lots of tags to play with. But the biggest barrier to putting them to good use is that NFC doesn't work while the phone is in standby. For example, I could put a tag beside my bed and put the phone into silent mode automatically. But if I have to switch on, unlock the phone and touch the tag, I might as well have just dont the task normally. But if I could leave the phone in standby and all I do is wave at the tag...that would be amazing.
Can it be done?
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The NFC function isnt turned on until you get out of the lock screen I think.
I've read in some other forums/threads that this is not possible mainly because of security reasons.
Example: If there was a stranger next to you with their NFC Tag really close to your phone, you wouldn't want your phone to detect the tag automatically without you knowing.
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Thanks. The tag has to be REALLY close to trigger anything. But I think that should be a user choice rather than a forced one. Disappointing...maybe Android will change in the future to allow this.
It was introduced in ICS. With gingerbread it wasn't necessary to unlock your phone to read tags - I used to use a tag to toggle my pin lock screen & WiFi/data connection, which was quite nice.
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I understand Google's concerns about security, but this is a poor solution. Having to turn on and unlock the screen completely removes one of the advantages of NFC technology - speed.
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I understand Google's concerns about security, but this is a poor solution. Having to turn on and unlock the screen completely removes one of the advantages of NFC technology - speed.
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I agree with this.
Just started using NFC this past week and kind of sucks you have to unlock the phone to use it.
I wish there would be an option that we can choose this setting.
what one do you use i use face unlock because of the speed hby
it varies on the level of security I need. lol
face unlock is sweet but doesnt work in low lighting
pattern is cool but easy for peeking eyes to guess your code (found this out hard way lol)
plus ive got into peoples phones just by looking at the pattern left in the oil on the screen LMAO!
so for me, i use pin more than anything
I went old school with this one. I do not let other people have access to my phone.
Ha yea pattern is easily recognized by a wandering eye and old fashion way works the best
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I use a combination of the old fashioned way, a pattern, and delayed lock with a widget locker lockscreen so I don't get bothered to unlock with the pattern every few minutes when I'm using it intermittently.
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Pattern
Face unlock showed up in the battery stats pretty high when I tried it so I ditched it
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what one do you use i use face unlock because of the speed hby
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You forgot to add the option of no security.
Adding the option of no security would contridict me since I said what security do you use
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Adding the option of no security would contridict me since I said what security do you use
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I use no lock but I have Cerberus installed, so that if my phone is stolen, I can lock it remotely.
How's that for security?
No lock here also, and I don't leave my phone setting out so anyone can grab it.
Face unlock takes too long to show up. Slide is easiest
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I only have one form of security.
if you touch my phone I will EAT YOU. Literally. I get hungry.
if I don't catch you I will use the tracking program I have installed.
HUNT YOU DOWN and then eat you.
either way your lunch I get my phone back and a full tummy
Grrrrr
I don't like it that patterns and passwords show buttons changing color or trails in the direction you're tracing. Someone nearby could easily watch what you're doing and figure out your pattern or password/code. Also, I wasn't pleased that when I tried using a very long string of numbers, you were limited to something like seventeen or less. I put something like my drivers license number and social strung together but the phone wouldn't take 21 numbers. The reason I picked such a long number sequence is in case someone was watching me enter my code, I kinda doubt they could follow and memorize such a long string easily; especially if entered quickly.
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I don't like it that patterns and passwords show buttons changing color or trails in the direction you're tracing. Someone nearby could easily watch what you're doing and figure out your pattern or password/code. Also, I wasn't pleased that when I tried using a very long string of numbers, you were limited to something like seventeen or less. I put something like my drivers license number and social strung together but the phone wouldn't take 21 numbers. The reason I picked such a long number sequence is in case someone was watching me enter my code, I kinda doubt they could follow and memorize such a long string easily; especially if entered quickly.
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There's an option to not show the trail for pattern unlock...
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Sunsparc said:
I use no lock but I have Cerberus installed, so that if my phone is stolen, I can lock it remotely.
How's that for security?
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Exactly. How is people witnessing me beating someone with my cell phone for security? Reminds me of a certain commercial as well lol. Security is way too inconvenient to protect my works number or all the XDA browsing I do. About the only thing that matters is the gmail and the ability to buy things.
Take a photo of yourself with another device. hold it up in front of the phone with face unlock enabled. unlock your device
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I've tried all of them just try to change it up on a daily basis lol. Nephews n nieces always wanna play games on it. Has anyone noticed that in a lot of a roms that just bringing down the notification bar will give you access to the phone even if it has some sort of security.
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Take a photo of yourself with another device. hold it up in front of the phone with face unlock enabled. unlock your device
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Good luck. Yes it does work at times. But I have had other people try it on me and NONE of them have succeeded.
But thats also why Samsung is changing it to require blinking.
When I do lock, I prefer app protector pro, and have it set to lock all the incriminating essentials lol (with a pattern lock)
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Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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I used for some time smartlock (because Pixel was paired with a smartband), so if it's connected, it was set to unlock in this case without password or fingerprint.
Otherwise, if we use fingerprint it take half second to unlock, so it's almost the same, but each user can decide what is more comfortable for him.
biTToe said:
When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
sronweb said:
This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
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So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
Hand76 said:
So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
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You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
Hand76 said:
But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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Except I don't use fingerprint unlock. I swipe a pattern.
So faster for me in that instance
sronweb said:
You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
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Never said to remove anything but a lock screen on an unlocked phone.
That's not a reasonable request?
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
V0latyle said:
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
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Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
On a side note, Google changing the screen to wake with a single tap instead of double tap is equally annoying and leads to the screen accidentally turning on all the damn time. Including in your pocket.
This only started on Android 12. Talk about fixing something that wasn't broken
Iv never used smart lock myself
Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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V0latyle said:
I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
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One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
forum.xda-developers.com
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One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Ty so much for this.. But from his description
"You phone will never be locked"
I see how this is keeping the device unlocked (for a certain period of time) but how does the device auto lock when leaving a trusted site?
For me I have several trustes sites already with profiles made in Tasker.
My default (outside/not at home) would be where I would want my phone locked