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Today was my first day at work since i got my Desire on Sat. So it was the day without regular charging.
Firstly, reception was poor as compared to what i was getting with Touch Pro 2. Same network (Orange), same place, less signal bars and less 3G coverage.
Secondly, unplugged phone 7 o'clock this morning, 100% charged. All day only had time for couple of calls (10-15mins). Used internet (3G when available) for max 20-30mins. Tried couple of games for 15-20 mins and at 7 o'clock at night, the battery was 15%. This is not a heavy use by my standards. Used to do a lot more on Touch Pro2 and battery used to last 2-3days. (I know the capaciy difference btw Desire and TP2 battery but still, Desire should last atleat > 24hours)
Not sure if all these issues are related to Orange ROM/Radio. Will we (on Orange) get OTA firmware update like T-mobile, which has apparently improved their battery life? If not then ...... :-(. Not satisfied with the battery life. Shame it is such a good phone but battery life and signal strength is putting me off.
Whats the fun if you have a "superphone" in your pocket but cannot use it to its full potential due to these two isuues.
Mine was the same,
But after a weeks worth of usage, its now reasonable, IE 18 hours between charges,
Fon22
I totally agree, there are other posts telling us to turn off or reduce all sorts of settings, its ridiculous that you would have to run any phone at less than its full potential just to compensate for a poor battery.
Sure you could buy a second battery but if that was necessary then they should put two in the box
If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
lukeyboymac said:
If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.
I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
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Come on guys, if you have a laptop, and you turn on bluetooth, wi-fi, play some games etc, it WILL run the battery down faster. It's just common sense. Just because this phone does heaps of things, dosn't mean it will last forever. As phones get more features, they are getting worse battery life - in general. And android is a data centric device, I would get used to it, or simply turn off some synching features if you need to get through more than half a day. Or perhaps get a spare battery etc.
Just out of curiosity did you have your previous phone to constantly sync throughout the day for time, email, google account, marketplace updates, location, weather using gps, 3g, hsdpa, accelerometer etc? Remember some of these connect are activated every 5 mins or so. Will make it worse if you have poor reception. COMMON SENSE PPL!
My issue is that even after the T-Mobile update, last night I charged phone on this time and it would only get to 98% again. Then drop down quickly.
If I charge it off, It seems to be ok (although I will test this again.)
Frustrating.
My battery life is woeful (TMo uk, updated firmware). I've been trying to figure it out using Juice Plotter to record power usage. Basically, whatever I'm doing, if it's on the battery falls off a cliff - I'd say 10% per 30m and my first impression is that it makes little difference whether networking is enabled or not. This makes little sense to me, I've always found in the past that 3G is just about the most power intensive activity on the smartphone, but it's consistent with some experiences I had flashing roms on my Blackstone - some of them would just run the battery down, others would go for ages. One hypothesis is that when a phone is in that kind of "sick" power state, the drain is not really related to which facilities you're using, but something deeper - perhaps the CPU is running full throttle all the time, or something else. I have no idea what's going on right now but I know I have an unusable phone which lasts half the time my Blackstone did with heavier use. I think many others have the same problem and I wonder if there's a bad batch. Bad news if so as we'd have trouble proving it and getting exchanges.
My next step I think will be to hard reset and run it in a very basic mode for a while, maybe some of the apps are causing it.
I'm also finding out that battery life improves dramatically after the 5th 6th charge. When I first got my Desire I could barely make it through the day, after properly charging and letting it discharge all the way to 10-15% now I get 18-20h of battery life with wi-fi on non stop (but with the setting to to turn itself off after 15mins of inactivity).
I was very worried about this when I first got the phone, but now it's starting to be better and better at battery life. I know my demands from a smartphone when I buy it and if a phone get's me through the day I'm OK with that, plus I have chargers at home, in my car, at work, so it's not a problem
I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
I last charged it on Saturday afternoon. I've only had to start charging it again this morning Tuesday. I've been making a few calls, probably 10-15 minutes total. A few texts. Browsing with G and 3G, maybe a few of hours worth in total. Little bit of Bluetoothing, though that's only a couple of minutes worth. I've had it down the pub a few hours where the T-mobile signal isn't brilliant, so it will have been doing a little "shouting" to find and communicate with the nearest T-mobile mast.
But that means it's lasted a good 66 hours admittedly with fairly moderate use. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth are turned off unless needed. And it's not regularly Syncing with Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff. The only regular syncing is the weather.
Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.
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Same situation as mine there.
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I'm deffo leaning now that there are faulty batteries out there causing the problem. I can get good life if I can get the battery to charge properly. but when it doesn't battery lasts hardly half a day. I don't use any apps that require automatic updates (all manual or off). But net on drains it very quickly (if I leave data on). Faulty Batteries I feel.
My Desire has a better ability to hang on to a weak signal than my other phones. I am on T-mobile. Battery life is adeqaute, in that, I can get through a day of use before a charge is needed. Will switch-off GPS and see what happens -I never had GPS on all the time on my other Smartphones.
Coming from a G1 that could barely make it through the day on standby this phone seems pretty good.
I got mine last friday it has just come off of it's third charge. I charged it for 3 hours when I got it, ran it right down >10% then left to charge up fully again.
I installed JuiceDefender and bought the UltimateJuice upgrade as soon as I got the phone.
Day 2 (with JuiceDefender) - battery lasted 13h27m, thats with WiFi, phone calls, MMS, 3g, internet browsing/showing it off to mates in the pub and then listening to an album on spotify in the car.
Considering this is a new battery and it still needs several charges before it is working at full capacity, I think that is pretty good for a smart phone! It can only get better, right?
JuiceDefender - I can't recommend this app enough, I don't want to mess about with Task Killers (that don't really save battery), I don't want to stop stuff syncing (because thats the whole point of this phone) but I want to optimize my battery life to get me through the day and this app does it so well!
I've currently got it setup to turn 2g/3g off when in standby but set to turn data back on every 5mins for 30s to allow apps to sync. You can specify a longer interval which will obviously save more battery over the course of a day. The phone connects back to a 2/3g connection so quick when you bring it out of standby so your not waiting around to get back online.
Switch on WiFi at known locations - I have this setup because at home, 3g signal is a bit patchy and it probably uses more battery constantly trying to get a 3g signal all the time, than it does if it is just connected to WiFi.
Turn data off between 2am-8am while I am sleeping.
Turn data off when battery is below 15% - with my G1 it would hit 15% just as I'd be heading home on the train in the evening, so I'd turn data off just so I could send a few texts or so I had just enough battery to make a call. So I figured I might as well use that last 15% battery for basic phone operation and give me enough battery to get home! I probably don't need this with the Desire though.
Any one else using JuiceDefender?
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Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.
- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.
- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.
- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.
- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.
- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.
However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;
Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.
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WOW, can I have your battery please ...
What did u do to get this powerhouse. Was it weaker in the begining and got better with charges or was it like this from the begining?
I dont use GPS at all. Only for navigation, when in car and then it is on charge. Normal day.. no gps, no auto data connection - do it manually when internet connecttion is neede. But battery doesn't last a day, merely 12-14 hours. Charged 3 times yet, only 3 days old Desire.
I cant find juice defender in the market?
When I first got my Hero I remember my battery life being terrible, most of it was down to fiddling all the time, however over time my usage changed and the battery had been charged a lot the life was a lot better. Also there were a number of radio upgrades installed, which probably helped.
Since I've got my Desire, the "desire" to fiddle hasn't stopped and I feel as if I'm in the same situation as I was with the Hero.
My opinion is that over time the battery life will be better, as with the Hero.
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I cant find juice defender in the market?
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Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
Juice defender was missing for me a couple of hours ago. But actually, when I installed it thinkgs started to go wrong for me. May be a coincidence, or may be a conflict with some other sw.
Following shocking power drain, I have hard reset, and left it with nothing syncing and all networking disabled. As you'd expect, battery level is barely falling in standby. Now to start adding things back in and see what efects it has. First step is to spend 30 mins browsing over 3g, previously this would take out 10% of my battery.
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Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.
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It's not there for me either currently, neither is mybackup pro... :/
this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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sell it
(im just writing this stuff here because of the too short rule)
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this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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Congratulations on a useless post.
If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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If that's the only battery life you're getting then you should really look at how you have your device set up. I easily get 12-15 hours on heavy use and more than 24 hours on light use (moderate use is somewhere in between). I use auto brightness, and keep bluetooth, gps, and wifi turned on all the time. I have facebook syncing and push email going and I have no battery issues at all. I suggest you take a look at your device configuration and also you may need to calibrate your battery.
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
Mine is currently on 1day and 7hours on battery, still with 30% left. You need to set it up properly mate..
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so you are suggesting to turn wifi,bluetooth and gps on all the time for better battery life? really?
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Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
OP, your post has made my day today!
However battery life depends on how your device usage is. People with carefully set usage patterns can extract the most. For e.g. I use Locale to set a certain profile at night that switches off wifi, data usage, etc. That is one way to maximise battery life.
Edited your title to be proper.
Please maintain forum etiquette. You can get the same exact message across using proper language
mysterioustko said:
Nowhere in what I posted did I say that. Try reading with understanding next time. What I said was I have everything turned on and I still get good battery life, so if yours is lacking perhaps you should take a look at how your device is configured. That a bit clearer for you?....
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ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
Evileddie said:
I'm having similar battery issues, a heads up on how to set up the phone for a better battery life would be very much appreciated.
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yea that would be awesome
flameinthefire said:
ah i see so how is ur device configured exactly? are you rooted? because im not getting good battery life neither
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Okay let me further clarify myself. When I say look at how your device is configured I mean look at what you have running. Do you have things syncing frequently in the background? Do you have apps installed that constantly wake the device? How many background apps are you running at once. I don't have any special configuration on my device. I have everything turned on as far as bluetooth, wifi, and gps. I use push email, facebook set to sync every 4 hours, weather set to sync every 6 hours, google reader set to "download frequently viewed feeds every hour", currents set to sync every 6 hours in the background (wifi only). With those settings my battery life is pretty good. When I'm not using my phone is drains between 2-2.5% battery per hour, that should give you a bit of a point of reference for what you should be getting when idle. Here's an app here I stumbled across that can show you what's waking your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 Hope this helps you out.
Battery is pretty good to me, under normal usage easily over 24hours.
I have had no problems with my battery or screen, not sure where your setup went wrong but listen to the posters before me and less ranting and maybe you'll make the best out of an awesome device
My battery is great! Better than any other smart phone iv used, signal is great swell and the screen is awesome
I love this phone lol
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gianfy.c said:
this phone sucks, you will have a huge screen but with automatic lighting seems drawn on cardboard, the reception is crap, my girlfriend with a lg optimus one has 3 notches and I travel to 1 here in the bedroom. And the absolute most ridiculous thing is the battery, are practically forced to go out with this and the galaxy's, fortunately, not yet sold, it takes at least 2 refills daily. Check it out and tell me if it does not sell a phone like this ****.
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I see in your screenshot the GPS and the screen were on for most of that time.
And by "on" I mean the GPS was really on with a fix, not just "on standby" and ready to be automatically activated when a program requests it.
No phone I have ever owned has ever got more than about 4 hours from the battery when I have been using the GPS. The simple fact of the matter is the battery will discharge very quickly when using GPS. That's not a fault of the Nexus, that's just how it is.
Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
Rusty! said:
Bad battery?
That screenshot shows you've been absolutely caning the **** out of your phone. Nothing will have a good battery life with usage like that.
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QFT. Almost half of it has been screen on, GPS on. No phone can stand up to that for long.
Cool story.
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This is from my first full charge cycle. Completely stock. Amazing! This is 3.5 hours screen on and 2 hours voice calls. It's not letting me upload those screen shots for some reason.
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thats pretty good!
Yeah mine has been pretty solid as well. Yesterday after 17hrs I was still at 35% which is better than most Android phones I've had.
I really think that galaxy nexus standby is amazing but the screen is the only thing that really drains the battery. So if you don't use it heavily, you should be fine. I use my nexus moderately and I still get through a day with about 40% left.
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Pretty good... i find voice calls and cell signal to be main battery drain cause on Sprint's turtle 3G network.
With 2100mah extended battery, 15% juice left unplugged at 8:30am, replugging in at 10pm, 2.5hr screen, 1hr gps, 30min voice
2nd full charge cycle
Here are the results from my 2nd full charge cycle:
40+ hours off charger; 4.5 hours screen-on time. Remarkably good.
How are you getting such good battery life? i can't seem to even last a whole work day, requiring me to charge before I leave the office.
I just got my replacement, so hopefully it will be better this time around.
CoronaDelux said:
How are you getting such good battery life? i can't seem to even last a whole work day, requiring me to charge before I leave the office.
I just got my replacement, so hopefully it will be better this time around.
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I use 30-40% brightness. Black wallpaper. Other than that, nothing special. I only have 1 gmail account syncing, unlike some of the people on here that have 3 or 4 email accounts syncing. I also only have like 2-3 widgets running (beautiful widgets smaller home, audiomanager pro, astrid, and maybe one or two others). And most of the screen on time is doing relatively simple tasks like web browsing, reading xda, google talk, etc. Nothing too terribly intensive like video.
Based on my experience though it seems like pretty much anybody except the heaviest of users should be able to get at least a full day's use out of it, and lighter users should easily be able to get 2.
Is yours GSM? I hear the Vzw/Sprint ones get far worse battery life.
kyokeun1234 said:
I really think that galaxy nexus standby is amazing but the screen is the only thing that really drains the battery. So if you don't use it heavily, you should be fine. I use my nexus moderately and I still get through a day with about 40% left.
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I agree. I ended a day with ~70% battery left, and most of my usage was the screen (~30 minutes or something). I haven't had any issues with my battery dying on me yet. If I left the screen off all day, I could probably use 10-15%.
Nvm
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I use 30-40% brightness. Black wallpaper. Other than that, nothing special. I only have 1 gmail account syncing, unlike some of the people on here that have 3 or 4 email accounts syncing. I also only have like 2-3 widgets running (beautiful widgets smaller home, audiomanager pro, astrid, and maybe one or two others). And most of the screen on time is doing relatively simple tasks like web browsing, reading xda, google talk, etc. Nothing too terribly intensive like video.
Based on my experience though it seems like pretty much anybody except the heaviest of users should be able to get at least a full day's use out of it, and lighter users should easily be able to get 2.
Is yours GSM? I hear the Vzw/Sprint ones get far worse battery life.
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...your setup works on my GNex!
thanks
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I bet it's not LTE
CoronaDelux said:
How are you getting such good battery life? i can't seem to even last a whole work day, requiring me to charge before I leave the office.
I just got my replacement, so hopefully it will be better this time around.
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I'm guessing it isn't using LTE. If I only connect by wifi and turn off data syncing then I can get more than a day too (with moderate use).
LTE really drains the battery.
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I'm guessing it isn't using LTE. If I only connect by wifi and turn off data syncing then I can get more than a day too (with moderate use).
LTE really drains the battery.
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Correct it is gsm, not lte.
That's impressive! Stock rom allows you to get at least 20 hours of WiFi/3G with 3-4 hrs of screen. Auto brightness. Here in Europe we don't have LTE, so our batteries could last a little bit more.
avarage battery use is over 13 hours (cm9+franco kernel).
10 hours and 53 min it dropped to 94% worth mentioning I didn't even touch the phone, can't seem to post a screen shot of it
Right now I am at 45% and I used it quiet heavily today
I didn't charge the phone even if it sems like it
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Some of the best I've seen so far from my phone (about two weeks old) is posted here. Almost 36 hours of uptime! Wifi on the whole time, had a signal for most of it too, but guarantee there were some times that I didn't (because I was trying to use the phone then). This includes time spent playing some games as well. I've fired up Osmos HD, Everlands, Swords and Soldiers, and Draw Something at some point during that charge for at least a few iterations of play on each game. Decent amount of browsing, including hits from Google Shopper for some price comparisons. I'm syncing one Google account and one Exchange account, with black wallpaper, auto brightness (not tuned) and the calendar, news and weather, settings, and prepaid usage widgets. Stock ICS and unrooted.
i have ext battery and can run (what seems like) forever
With these larger screens and powerful processors, I can't say I'm totally surprised at the lower battery life compared to all the iPhones. They have smaller screens and the O/S is more tightly controlled and optimized for the hardware to maximize battery life.
With that said, I must admit, I'm somewhat disappointed with the battery life on this S3. I've now had it for two weeks so after lots of tweaking, rooting, apps installs and configs, battery and task monitoring, etc, I've kind of settled into my normal usage pattern which is typically pretty easy on the phone as more than 50% of the time I'm working from my home office with the phone plugged into USB so it is rare I have to leave in the morning and go the whole day without having to eventually sit back down at my computer and plug the phone back in.
However on the weekends, with kids sports and such, I'm now seeing the limitations on battery life on this phone. I have it set to:
Auto Display Brightness
No updating of apps unless on WiFi
GPS and Wifi turned off when I leave the houose (automatically via Llama - I turn them on only when I need them)
Power Saver Mode, all options except CPU power saving checked. (Kind of bought the phone for fast CPU although I'm not a gamer - just a multitasker and web browser)
Auto Screen Tone Turned On
Most other specific apps that have option to not download data except wifi I have that option turned on (aside from Taptu news feeds - 2 hour updates and Alerts from ESPN ScoreCenter - get maybe a couple alerts every few hours)
Haptic feedback turned off
Here's where I was shocked. First time I did some serious browsing was in a movie theater where I got there early and had about 20 min to burn so I did constant web browsing over the LTE connection. Watched batter plummet about 15% in 15 min. Whoa!
So is this just "how it is" with this phone that heavy LTE data usage eats battery like no tomorrow?
Other thing I noticed, is Using GSam, I see a task usually being in the top 3 or 4 most of the time with around 15-20% of the App Battery Usage total. It's called "System (*wakelock*)" and when I look at properties it shows around 6-8 wakelocks and Included Packages is just one "PowerAMP Full Version Unlocker" Included Processes: *wakelock* and com.maxmpx.audioplayer. But this is when I'm not using PowerAMP. In fact it happens after phone has been rebooted and I have never launched PowerAMP once!
I did notice something similar on the HTC One X+ I tried then exchanged for the S3 where I found a task associated with beats audio was eating up CPU/Battery when no music app was open as if it was periodically scanning my large MP3 library of 2,600 songs. Maybe PowerAmp is doing something similar?
I've found I'm not the only one noticing this:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/2662-battery-drain/
Well, first off, i think the main reason why the iPhone gets better battery life isn't because of the smaller screen or iOS being "optimized for the hardware". It's probably more due to the fact that it doesn't really run much of anything in the background. Very few apps actually continue to run when you leave them. It's kind of a pseudo-multitasking environment.
As for the S3's battery life.... it could be PowerAmp causing it. I also don't see why you'd want to keep power saving on the CPU off. It doesn't really seem to have that much of an impact on performance that i've seen while generally using the phone for web browsing and such. And no matter what phone you're on, LTE will kill the battery in no time flat.
I think you should give some time to settle your battery first...even after flashing a new rom its take couple of days for the battery to settle down. The first day i used my phone, the battery doed in 4 hours...now after 4 months it lasts for 15-16 hrs of normal to heavy use.
LTE does eat lots of battery, whenever i go in LTE area i have to switch my data off to keep my phone alive. That's why people like to have the ability to switch between LTE and HSPA+. Search to find that mod.
You can never compare iPhone with S3. As the above poster said, there is no multitasking in iPhones. The screen is small and not as good as S3. SAMLOED screen takes lots of battery.
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I think you should give some time to settle your battery first...even after flashing a new rom its take couple of days for the battery to settle down. The first day i used my phone, the battery doed in 4 hours...now after 4 months it lasts for 15-16 hrs of normal to heavy use.
LTE does eat lots of battery, whenever i go in LTE area i have to switch my data off to keep my phone alive. That's why people like to have the ability to switch between LTE and HSPA+. Search to find that mod.
You can never compare iPhone with S3. As the above poster said, there is no multitasking in iPhones. The screen is small and not as good as S3. SAMLOED screen takes lots of battery.
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I totally agree with you. You have to give it time to settle in. You can also run a battery calibration to try and help as well. I have LTE here in Omaha and I usually get at least 15 hours before I need to charge my battery. I have a QCell battery and it works awesome.
I will live with the battery life so I can actually see the screen without having to squint my eyes. I used to have an iPhone as well but that was years ago now and Android will always be the best.
Don't get me wrong, as a "Power User" coming from the iOS Jailbreak world, hardware and customization-wise, I love this phone a lot more than I like my iPhone - but mostly it's the big screen that I'm enjoying. Have had a couple crashes in the first two weeks which never happened in iOS but no biggie.
So I suspect its primarily the LTE, but combined with large screen, true multitasking O/S, etc, obviously battery life is a challenge. I would slightly criticize Samsung for maybe being a little too obsessed with keeping the phone thin. I know you can buy the bigger batteries with a replacement cover but that looks like it really adds major thickness to phone. They should have went for a 2500-2700 mah battery and increased the thickness slightly IMHO.
But hey, at least the battery is removable. So I can spend little money and get a QCell, charge it and keep it in my car or on my desk and if I know I'm not going to be able to charge the phone all day, just pop the extra battery in my jacket pocket.
The LTE usage is a bit of a mystery to me. You would figure, with LTE, you can download files faster so you spend less time actually using the phone. But obviously it appears the energy consumption is trumping the increased efficiency in data transfer! Too bad.
Why the battery 'breaks in' over time is even more of a mystery. This latest battery technology should not have any sort of break-in or memory issues. But I'm no battery expert. But my gut says there's something else at play. I've seen many threads over past couple of years that discuss an issue relating to Android doing some sort of "media scan" after boot and/or periodically. Maybe the battery break-in is more about the databases the O/S is creating and updating in the background "settling down" more than anything to do with the characteristics of the physical battery changing?
One thing is for certain though, battery life IS a common issue for most higher-end Android smartphone users. Not a deal breaker in the least for me, but will be interesting to see how the phone "seasons" over time regarding battery. I used Titanium Backup to freeze Power Amp and downloaded N7 instead just to rule Power Amp out. I just took a 1.5 hour shopping trip. Didn't use LTE data. But spent about 45 minutes at the grocery store using their wifi to access all my coupons and shopping lists. Battery was 97% when I left house, 77% when I got home. Ouch. Well, that was probably more like a 2 hour round trip. Still 20% in 2 hours is not good especially considering I had 0 talk time and wasn't using LTE data.
The crazy thing is, Gsam says 12% screen, 86% apps. Under apps it says 23.6% Kernel, 19.3% Media, 19.3% N7 Player!!! And I didn't play any music!!!! This is leading me more and more to believe this all has something to do with having an extremely large music collection (2600 songs) on the phone and the phone is building a database and it just takes time. Pure guess.
Get his app disable autostart of the applications that are not needed. Also, get betterbatterystats to get a more detailed idea of whats going on with your phone.
how bad is your battery life? fwiw my wife's iPhone 5 gets horrendous battery life. makes the s3 look like a miser.
16 - 20 hours would be reasonable IMHO, or a average drain of 4-5% per hour. assuming you're actually using the thing... I never understood people who cripple the thing and never touch it in order to get max life.
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how bad is your battery life? fwiw my wife's iPhone 5 gets horrendous battery life. makes the s3 look like a miser.
16 - 20 hours would be reasonable IMHO, or a average drain of 4-5% per hour. assuming you're actually using the thing... I never understood people who cripple the thing and never touch it in order to get max life.
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Iphone5 has a bigger screen then previous apples and it's also Lte. It's multitask has been improved too. It's not a secret its battery life plummeted.
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You know when someone pushes away an iPhone groupy I'm pretty sympathetic but this post is just a noob rage idiotic post. I didn't even read through all your points but will just say you need to spend more time learning
-there is autobrightness on root (and non rooted) and in fact autobrightness doesn't necessarily save battery...as much utiltiy as having say a brightness notification in the app bar or something like lux that allows you to control brigntness by environment/app etc
-it says nothing of what you have running in the background, spam apps, wakelocks etc (bbs) The fact your apps and music is taking up more battery than say cell tower stanbdy and screen display is an obvious red flag
- says nothing of how you checked your connections and how reception is in your area
Another point is the iphone 4 and 5 are MUCH thicker than the galaxy s3...they hold relative to the backgroudn processes etc running, a much larger and thicker battery. The same physical thickness of the s3 battery you could buy a battery with nearly twice as much juice.
We dont' know how you optimized your phone for your uses or whether you cleaned up processes, apps etc, how cleanly you flashed. Go and learn then come back and cry
Wow.... you tell him to learn then come back and cry.... say it's a "noob rage idiotic post".... and yet:
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Other thing I noticed, is Using GSam, I see a task usually being in the top 3 or 4 most of the time with around 15-20% of the App Battery Usage total. It's called "System (*wakelock*)" and when I look at properties it shows around 6-8 wakelocks and Included Packages is just one "PowerAMP Full Version Unlocker" Included Processes: *wakelock* and com.maxmpx.audioplayer. But this is when I'm not using PowerAMP. In fact it happens after phone has been rebooted and I have never launched PowerAMP once!
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I'm sorry... but exactly what did he not mention about wakelock's?
You obviously didn't read the first sentence of my second most before you posted this, which said:
Don't get me wrong, as a "Power User" coming from the iOS Jailbreak world, hardware and customization-wise, I love this phone a lot more than I like my iPhone
I know all about Better Battery Stats, bla bla bla. I'm no idiot. Just giving some initial impressions and asking for a little further guidance.
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You know when someone pushes away an iPhone groupy I'm pretty sympathetic but this post is just a noob rage idiotic post. I didn't even read through all your points but will just say you need to spend more time learning
-there is autobrightness on root (and non rooted) and in fact autobrightness doesn't necessarily save battery...as much utiltiy as having say a brightness notification in the app bar or something like lux that allows you to control brigntness by environment/app etc
-it says nothing of what you have running in the background, spam apps, wakelocks etc (bbs) The fact your apps and music is taking up more battery than say cell tower stanbdy and screen display is an obvious red flag
- says nothing of how you checked your connections and how reception is in your area
Another point is the iphone 4 and 5 are MUCH thicker than the galaxy s3...they hold relative to the backgroudn processes etc running, a much larger and thicker battery. The same physical thickness of the s3 battery you could buy a battery with nearly twice as much juice.
We dont' know how you optimized your phone for your uses or whether you cleaned up processes, apps etc, how cleanly you flashed. Go and learn then come back and cry
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Well here's an update. As I mentioned, I froze PowerAmp and installed N7 instead. I could have swore I reset the GSAM battery monitor, AFTER N7 scanned all my media files. Yet once again, like PowerAmp (via System *wakelock*) N7 was third highest battery eater over 2 hours of "normal" usage WITHOUT LTE Data Use, only Wifi and NO TALK TIME and WITHOUT USING N7!
So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
It is more and more looking like something is going on with PowerAmp and N7 regarding cataloging of large music collections. So I'll stick with Player Pro and see how things go over the next few days.
Thanks to those with the constructive criticism. This has been one of the pluses of moving to Android. There's a lot larger population of "Power Users" than on iPhone that are willing to help someone relatively new to the platform.
yea... that's the one thing i had a feeling it might have been doing, but wasn't exactly sure as i've never really been that media-crazy with my phones. Good to see that you found the issue, though.
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Why the battery 'breaks in' over time is even more of a mystery. This latest battery technology should not have any sort of break-in or memory issues. But I'm no battery expert. But my gut says there's something else at play.
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Yeah, "battery break-in" is a bit of a misnomer. What's actually happening is that the stats the OS keeps on the battery capacity and usage are being rebuilt. It takes a few charge cycles for your system to "learn" what it needs to accurately show you remaining capacity, etc.
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So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
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Good move! I use PlayerPro and I love it. It's one of my few "must haves", not least of which is its ability to sync ratings back to iTunes with iSyncr. None of the other major players have this. This is important for me as I'm also an iOS refugee and I still have all my music in iTunes.
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Well here's an update. As I mentioned, I froze PowerAmp and installed N7 instead. I could have swore I reset the GSAM battery monitor, AFTER N7 scanned all my media files. Yet once again, like PowerAmp (via System *wakelock*) N7 was third highest battery eater over 2 hours of "normal" usage WITHOUT LTE Data Use, only Wifi and NO TALK TIME and WITHOUT USING N7!
So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
It is more and more looking like something is going on with PowerAmp and N7 regarding cataloging of large music collections. So I'll stick with Player Pro and see how things go over the next few days.
Thanks to those with the constructive criticism. This has been one of the pluses of moving to Android. There's a lot larger population of "Power Users" than on iPhone that are willing to help someone relatively new to the platform.
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power user here too coming from iphone 3g, 3gs, 4 to samsung skyrocket, note, nexus to the current at&t sgs3. all have been jailbroken and rooted for "customization" purposes and the first thing i noticed going to the android phones was how poor the battery life was when compared to any iOS device; even when the devices were stock. I can deal with it because of how much customization i can do with android that i can't do on iOS so for that reason alone i stick with android. and also nothing apple has done has impressed me with their iPhone series yet. might pick up an iPad mini retina one day :laugh:
anyways, back to your battery issue. have you tried going to stock rom or formatting just to make sure its not a hardware issue? i know for mine, one time my data partition that had my music had some corrupt file that had the media scanner always running and killing my battery. i had tried everything and there was no way that in 8 hrs i'd have < 30% left with no usage. i finally deleted and formatted everything, went to pure stock with no files except for my contacts and no email sync. then i got 15 to 20 hours... that's usual for the sgs3, a tad less than my old iphone 4. that told me my battery wasn't bad.
i ended up keeping an eye on wakelocks and re-installing all my apps and putting all my music back on and my battery issue dissapeared and i'm happy. still have poweramp installed, but moved to using google music for cloud and local music. what made me really happy was going to a hyperion battery and the slimmer extended sedio case for 2 to 3 days of battery life on this sucker for a decent price. :good: still have the stock batter for backup too!
I'm not on a Custom ROM. Just rooted.
I installed Better Battery Stats to see how it worked. Don't like it as much as GSAM. Seems you can get a bit lower-level process info upfront, but the graphing is barely readable and it doesn't show percent usage of battery for each process. Just number of s(econds) and blue and red line? Maybe I'm missing a setting? I think BBS may be popular as maybe it existed before GSAM (formerly Badass Battery Monitor I think) or maybe there is just something about BBS that I haven't realized yet is a major advantage over GSAM? They both do the job. Sorry for going off on a tangent.
The process hogging the battery the most now is Google Maps and I know from searching and reading this is VERY common. It can be related to ANY app wanting to poll your location. I'm not yet sure though if the usage is excessive. Looks like not. I turned off all of the Location settings in Maps (but left "Location and Google search" in main Location Setting ON as I read that really defeats a lot of functionality. Google Now wasn't happy I turned of Location History (in Maps) but I still get the current commute times and local weather on my Google Now so I have yet to discover any big disadvantage of turning off most (not all) of the Location settings in Maps if you don't want to share your location or see your location history.
Apparently Google Now and potentially other apps like Facebook, etc. want to use Google Maps to poll where you are. One user said turning off History helped on the battery - makes sense as now Google Now isn't constantly trying to see where you are even if the phone is just sitting on your nightstand! I hate that big brother feeling so anytime an app has an option to turn location awareness off, I usually use it. When I go to use Maps I just turn the GPS on. But I still need to learn what I'm missing out on, when turning off some of these settings. Now I'd like to figure out how to get GPS to turn on automatically any time Maps is manually launched and then turned off automatically anytime maps is closed! That would be nice. Surprised that function isn't built-in to Android as opposed to just prompting you to take you to settings. Guess I may have to break down and learn how to code in Tasker instead of using Llama for my automation needs.
I've left the phone unplugged for what, 8 hours now. Very light usage today. I'm at 80%. BBS is showing 3.5%/hour. That's 28 hours. But like I said, no talk time on the phone today, a half dozen texts, no web browsing and maybe 30 min of total app usage so I would expect 3.5%/hour.
Bottom line is it looks like I don't have any major issues like I had on the stupid HTC One X+ that was getting hot. Seems like the media player switch is what did the trick. I'm just curious why apps as popular as N7 and PowerAmp would be any different. It could have been just timing in that I switch to Pro Player about the time the O/S was done doing it cataloging of the media or whatever it does. I'm sure 2,600 high bitrate songs (14GB) of songs on the sdcard is pretty above average for your typical Android User. Wish there was more in-depth technical documentation on some of these processes though published by Google for us Power Users to read if so desired. Guess that's why we have XDA Forum.
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Duh, just saw the first condition in Llama is "Active Application" the problem is, I only want the GPS to turn on when I manually launch the app myself. I hope an app trying to use Maps in the background doesn't trigger the GPS on. Guess I'll find out.
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I forgot why this isn't possible. Google doesn't want to allow ANY apps to turn GPS on/off automatically due to privacy issues. Is there a setting to let the user decide this? Make me feel like they're treating me like an idiot!
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the OnePlus 8 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pretty impressed with battery life. And that was with heavy usage : installation of a lot of apps/mods, downloads through games, videos (especially 1h under direct sunlight).
I know it's not representative of a normal day because of the quarantine but I found it really good.
Can anyone else post screenshots? In the YouTube reviews they indicate very different battery consumption among them. 5:30 some, others 8:30
Will post more screenshots after more usage...
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Battery life and charging cycle question
Hey Buddy,
May I ask how do you charge your OnePlus 8 phone? All the way to 100% or less? Do you keep it charging on even if its at 100?
Slightly over 4 hours of SOT with 50% battery left.
Impressive and slightly better than what I was getting on my 8 Pro.
Not bad. I'm also using xXx Magisk and ElementalX Kernel.
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Not bad. I'm also using xXx Magisk and ElementalX Kernel.
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My stats are not bad and for my usage the phone lasts all day. But how can you reach those values?
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My stats are not bad and for my usage the phone lasts all day. But how can you reach those values?
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It depends on which apps you have installed and how you use them. Therefore, results will vary from person to person. To give you some guidelines, this is what I do:
I use GPS and location services sparingly instead of leaving them on
Google app and Google Assistant are disabled, along with some Google analytics
I use a Chromium-based web browser, such as Kiwi instead of Chrome itself
I debloat unused apps that would otherwise just sit there, wasting space
I typically charge the phone to full while it's off and uninterrupted
Touchboost is disabled
Hope that helps.
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It depends on which apps you have installed and how you use them. Therefore, results will vary from person to person. To give you some guidelines, this is what I do:
I use GPS and location services sparingly instead of leaving them on
Google app and Google Assistant are disabled, along with some Google analytics
I use a Chromium-based web browser, such as Kiwi instead of Chrome itself
I debloat unused apps that would otherwise just sit there, wasting space
I typically charge the phone to full while it's off and uninterrupted
Touchboost is disabled
Hope that helps.
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Thanks a lot. I took some of your tips without impacting what I expect from the phone and it made quite a difference. I had too many apps that I was simply not using. And some applications that were polling my location too much for no reason. I'm also using dark mode as I'm actually enjoying it. I almost didn't change anything but it really shows that if you do some minor tweaks and remove aps you're not using you end up with enough battery to last a full day comfortably.
Really surprised. Attaching my new SOT.
This was a more demanding usage of the phone than my previous post but surprisingly I got 30% more battery then before.
And this while playing COD for almost half an hour.:victory:
Can you guys post more stats?
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Can you guys post more stats?
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SoT is just pefect. And don't worry it's the same everywhere, look :
I think something wrong is going on,poor SOT,never had I pass 5.5 hours of SOT.
Not the longest SOT but I can easily stay multiple days on one charge when using my phone 2-3 hours a day. The flat parts in the plot are the nights when my phone was on airplane mode.
I also had some pretty good experiences while using my phone as a hotspot. This used to drain the batteries of my previous phones quickly but with the OP8 I can easily share connection 2-3 hours and still have the battery last me at least for the day. (Not included in the screenshot)
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I get abt 10 hrs
I get abt 10 hrs
My last post was quite poor in infos so I'll detail more this time. Using it one day, you can have up to 10h SoT, using it throughout the days will give you around 8 hours SoT.
I've done two things: used my phone for two days of normal use (at home, playing videogames for about 2h a day because I had no friends to hang out with :crying and got three days of lite use (1h gaming per day or less because I had friends this time :victory, 7h SoT
To sum up: using it over the days will reduce SoT, but overall the battery is really good
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I dont know if it is normal, or not. But forexample, i chatge phone OP8 full, and i use it, lets say until 50% of battery, then i connect phone to PC to transfer some files. and if i check after battery it said that it is full charged 5 min before, and it stay 50%