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I've been wondering why my browser tabs get kicked out of memory after so long. Usually if I take a phone call or switch into a large app and return to the browser, I have to reload all my pages. I normally have 3-5 tabs open at once. With VZW's slow 3G it's a pain to reload and lose my place. Doesn't this phone have 1GB of RAM? I wouldn't think a phone call would cause the browser to be removed from memory would it? This has been plaguing me for years just wondering if there was anything I could do to prevent it.
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Yes its just something to do with the latest ICS version, memory management is more aggressive with the browser or something. It drives me mad too. Sometimes ill switch to the homescreen for one second without loading a single thing, go right back to the broeser and it was kicked from memory.
Is the behaviour the same in the new Chrome Beta?
Yup, I find this a bit annoying, too.
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Is the behaviour the same in the new Chrome Beta?
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It doesn't seem to be. I've just had a test and it seems to keep all pages open.
Open browser -> load page -> menu -> save for offline reading
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Open browser -> load page -> menu -> save for offline reading
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But wouldn't you then have to do this for each tab?
Because Android doesn't offer true multitasking. It closes apps you are actively using and caches apps you don't ever use... Poor memory management and aggressive task closing makes for a poor user experience.
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Because Android doesn't offer true multitasking. It closes apps you are actively using and caches apps you don't ever use... Poor memory management and aggressive task closing makes for a poor user experience.
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Yep. It's a little too aggressive. It's most annoying when i'm using Spotify or something. I might pause the music for a little while for whatever reason, run a couple apps. When I go back to Spotify I have to restart the whole app.
It should intelligently monitor usage and cache apps based off that...
tweak your VM settings, as well as min free settings.
My pages has always stayed in memory
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tweak your VM settings, as well as min free settings.
My pages has always stayed in memory
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Mind providing some examples and/or guidance on how to accomplish this?
s2d4 said:
tweak your VM settings, as well as min free settings.
My pages has always stayed in memory
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Yeah this is what i want to try and tweak the oom numbers but i just been too lazy...
Hmm. I have never used Spotify before, but that sounds way too aggressive. I use slacker.com and if i pause it there does not seem to ever be a problem going back and having the song pick up right where i left off. Google listen seems to do the same. Now don't get me started on the one or two times per day slacker causes my galaxy nexus to reboot ......
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Mind providing some examples and/or guidance on how to accomplish this?
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Need it too...
I never experienced this. I have chrome and chrome beta with bunch of tabs in each of them open and they always stay there. I am on stock 4.1.1 and i have stock android browser disabled.
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Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks
veerm said:
Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks
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I dont believe that there is a setting where you can change that. If you want to kill an individual app, use the task manager but in general, there is really no need to be killing all of your apps - the Android OS is designed to have apps sitting there not closed (and the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
Some custom ROMS for other devices do have a setting where you can set longpress backbutton to kill the app that you are in. Havent seen this in any One X roms yet but im sure it will come
It has been written many times before but can't be said enough, task killers isnt helping the system at all! Android OS itself controls the ram memory and closes the apps that isnt used in case of running out of memory
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App killers are phone killers!!1
Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.
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Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.
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Yeah but those apps are open and fill up almost whole 1GB RAM and when somone wants play game it is laggy cos not enough ram ..
Even when am broqsing internet is so laggy ..
But when u not doing with mobile it doesnt drain battery cos cpu is idle 99%
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the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
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well you will see slow down because it's an HTC One X..somehow HTC have managed to reduce the performance of a quad core processor to something that resembles a dual core device...juttering and slowing down..hogging all the RAM and re-drawing the launcher constantly
well done HTC. This the last time you're getting my money.
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the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
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True, however, the priorization is all wrong. When I send my browser to the background just to open an email for an address, most of the times the browser gets closed.
So, when I revert to the browser it has to start all over.
When I look in taskmanager, I see many programs that should be closed before closing the browser, because the browser was the lastest used application.
I would love to have more control over the dumb task closer of the HOX! For instance:
- really close applications that have been in the background for at least a certain amount of time (so games can have more memory without stutter!)
- close applications in reverse order of latest used instead of used most memory
- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
So, when many tell that task killers are not needed they are only right for non-HOX devices. In other words, the HOX task killer that works automagically has serious issues preventing us to multi-task!
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- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
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linux caches stuff in memory to make it quicker when you do want it. unused ram is wasted ram. it is not like windows.
Hi, Please some one help me about Use of "No background Process" - in Developer option . Because i have enabled this option in My Honor 8 Pro to stop background Process. With this option enabled most of the Google services also like Chrome, Youtube are all getting stoped once i removed from app tray. when i am opening those apps are running normally no other issue.
My doubts are whether this option is useful or not, because i am reading some stuffs online it is saying it will drain the Battery lot. if i havn't enabled this option most of the apps are running in background even i removed those apps from app tray.
Please some one help me with clear idea, whether i can close the app try or can i continue by enabling this "No background process". Because i am not heavy user, i am just a lite user between one hour i will open whatapp thats it, once in a day i will use Youtube for 30 minutes.
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Hi, Please some one help me about Use of "No background Process" - in Developer option . Because i have enabled this option in My Honor 8 Pro to stop background Process. With this option enabled most of the Google services also like Chrome, Youtube are all getting stoped once i removed from app tray. when i am opening those apps are running normally no other issue.
My doubts are whether this option is useful or not, because i am reading some stuffs online it is saying it will drain the Battery lot. if i havn't enabled this option most of the apps are running in background even i removed those apps from app tray.
Please some one help me with clear idea, whether i can close the app try or can i continue by enabling this "No background process". Because i am not heavy user, i am just a lite user between one hour i will open whatapp thats it, once in a day i will use Youtube for 30 minutes.
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First and foremost thing in Android is - Free ram is wastage
When you select the no background process option, the apps will be removed from background when you clear them from the recents screen. It means all their processess will be terminated.
So, everytime you open an app, all its processess need to be restarted from the start which will in turn use more battery overtime.
Android has now evolved upto the level where it can easily manage the background process.
So, you need not to worry about battery draining because of apps running in background.
If you use just 2 or 3 apps in a day, you can choose the option to keep 3 or 4 background processes.
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K.khiladi said:
First and foremost thing in Android is - Free ram is wastage
When you select the no background process option, the apps will be removed from background when you clear them from the recents screen. It means all their processess will be terminated.
So, everytime you open an app, all its processess need to be restarted from the start which will in turn use more battery overtime.
Android has now evolved upto the level where it can easily manage the background process.
So, you need not to worry about battery draining because of apps running in background.
If you use just 2 or 3 apps in a day, you can choose the option to keep 3 or 4 background processes.
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Thanks for the reply, Now i make it to maximum-3 Process in background. Let me see whether it is helping me to improve the battery life.
One more thing, if i set to "No background Process" then even though if i kept the apps in try (not closing just minimizing) , it is automatically stopped when i am checking in task manager, but those apps are in tray( looks like in RAM). In this method also will Drain the battery? Please reply
P.K.Shivaram said:
Thanks for the reply, Now i make it to maximum-3 Process in background. Let me see whether it is helping me to improve the battery life.
One more thing, if i set to "No background Process" then even though if i kept the apps in try (not closing just minimizing) , it is automatically stopped when i am checking in task manager, but those apps are in tray( looks like in RAM). In this method also will Drain the battery? Please reply
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As mentioned above, opening your apps from start will use up more battery because it has to load everything to run the app (generally libraries, images, and various resources).
Keeping an app open in background will result in a more lasting battery. If they are in the tray, your system will not shut them down as you are supposed to be using them (that's what we call multi-tasking).
Although, if you "close" an app, it will force the process to stop. By doing this, every time you quit an app by clearing it in the tray, the system will free the temporary data and discharge the pre-loaded resources.
As K.khiladi said, you'll save up more battery by letting the default option (Standard limit). Hope that helps.
That's the reason the option is only accessable through Dev Options.
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I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
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I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
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To add, I'm on the latest firmware with May security update (the one has been persistent throughout before and even now) ans not rooted.
How many time you do it ? Because it consumes less battery to keep them in memory than to reload all the apps every time you use them.
rezapatel said:
I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
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Just a pointer re Facebook.
Take a look at your System apps in Device /Settings /App category
Look for Facebook... and you will see other 3 x Facebook related
apps also listed ..!
You shut Facebook down but the Facebook Services, Facebook App Manager.. etc...? is still running and suckling battery.?
See my screen snip.
I most probably don't need to remind you that Facebook,
has over the past years, been fingered/known, to drain battery
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My solution, which you most likely won't l "ike"
is to temporarily disable Facebook and the other Facebook related system apps.
Uninstall the one small Game or both??
and see if there is a improvement ?
Good luck.
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How many time you do it ? Because it consumes less battery to keep them in memory than to reload all the apps every time you use them.
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I meant I've tried both strategies. Shut them off by swiping them away, letting them be and also shutting off thr app's setting to run in background. Nothing worked really.
willcor said:
Just a pointer re Facebook.
Take a look at your System apps in Device /Settings /App category
Look for Facebook... and you will see other 3 x Facebook related
apps also listed ..!
You shut Facebook down but the Facebook Services, Facebook App Manager.. etc...? is still running and suckling battery.?
See my screen snip.
I most probably don't need to remind you that Facebook,
has over the past years, been fingered/known, to drain battery
.
My solution, which you most likely won't l "ike"
is to temporarily disable Facebook and the other Facebook related system apps.
Uninstall the one small Game or both??
and see if there is a improvement ?
Good luck.
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That's the issue, Facebook doesn't really bother me but the games (or other apps like Twitter or tiktok or Instagram) do. And it's not always Facebook or these specific games. It's different each day - any apps I more frequently used that day continue to stick there consuming power. Every day it's a different set of apps. But wondering why stick causing a drain!
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That's the issue, Facebook doesn't really bother me but the games (or other apps like Twitter or tiktok or Instagram) do. And it's not always Facebook or these specific games. It's different each day - any apps I more frequently used that day continue to stick there consuming power. Every day it's a different set of apps. But wondering why stick causing a drain!
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yes ,
Firstly ,
over the years ,i have been a few times, in similar "position" than you, re apps and battery draining .!
I know it's very frustrating ..annoying .....
and in the end i always ended up doing a factory reset . !!
I use a cross section of a different "set " of tools eg BettterbatteryStats ,Wakelock Detector lite ,Gsam Battery etc . ( all ADB enabled) to try and pinpoint the culprit ..
Unfortunately ,the permutation/reasons can be many ??
eg You installed and uninstalled an app and "something " eg System settings got corrupted .?
You disabled /freezed ,an System app and it has an knock on effect .
You did some mod /hack or maybe a sideloaded app thats causing it ..?
App that you installed that's badly coded .
It also could be that when you did an OTA to latest firmware that something/system ,got corrupted..?
Bottom line ,
You sitting with a very irritating/frustrating issue .
Your options is either to live with it ? or try and find the culprit ?
or doing a factory reset .?
Yes, i know you most likely, don't favor a factory reset.
As stated i always ended up doing a factory,on the spur of the moment !!!
Then doing a clean install from scratch ..a few apps at a time .......
Anyway it's your choice .??
Good luck .
willcor said:
yes ,
Firstly ,
over the years ,i have been a few times, in similar "position" than you, re apps and battery draining .!
I know it's very frustrating ..annoying .....
and in the end i always ended up doing a factory reset . !!
I use a cross section of a different "set " of tools eg BettterbatteryStats ,Wakelock Detector lite ,Gsam Battery etc . ( all ADB enabled) to try and pinpoint the culprit ..
Unfortunately ,the permutation/reasons can be many ??
eg You installed and uninstalled an app and "something " eg System settings got corrupted .?
You disabled /freezed ,an System app and it has an knock on effect .
You did some mod /hack or maybe a sideloaded app thats causing it ..?
App that you installed that's badly coded .
It also could be that when you did an OTA to latest firmware that something/system ,got corrupted..?
Bottom line ,
You sitting with a very irritating/frustrating issue .
Your options is either to live with it ? or try and find the culprit ?
or doing a factory reset .?
Yes, i know you most likely, don't favor a factory reset.
As stated i always ended up doing a factory,on the spur of the moment !!!
Then doing a clean install from scratch ..a few apps at a time .......
Anyway it's your choice .??
Good luck .
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Thanks buddy, you make some really good points. This is the first time ever that I haven't rooted the phone or done anything to disrupt the default OS. All I've done is the ADB permissions required for the GSAM Batteey app tk be able to pill detailed info.
I'm thinking if there's some way to reset all permissions and reconfigure them as the apps require? That has fixed things for me in the past.
Factory reset isn't an easy option for me because of RSA apps configured on the phone otherwise I've got to go through a few calls to get access - sorta irritating.
Hopeful something works but until then I'm letting it be lol.
Thanks!
rezapatel said:
Thanks buddy, you make some really good points. This is the first time ever that I haven't rooted the phone or done anything to disrupt the default OS. All I've done is the ADB permissions required for the GSAM Batteey app tk be able to pill detailed info.
I'm thinking if there's some way to reset all permissions and reconfigure them as the apps require? That has fixed things for me in the past.
Factory reset isn't an easy option for me because of RSA apps configured on the phone otherwise I've got to go through a few calls to get access - sorta irritating.
Hopeful something works but until then I'm letting it be lol.
Thanks!
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I understand above if you say factory reset is an issue.!
I have a app call Bouncer paid (Play Store) installed on my device.
Don't think there is a free version, cannot remember, as I've had it for a while.
It basically controls your app permissions.
You can configure it to automatically remove permissions after using relevant app.
Also you can reset permissions.
It might help you.?
You can Google around a and see reviews.
To give you a idea, look at my screenshot.
Sorry, can't give any links, as it a paid app.
Good luck
willcor said:
I understand above if you say factory reset is an issue.!
I have a app call Bouncer paid (Play Store) installed on my device.
Don't think there is a free version, cannot remember, as I've had it for a while.
It basically controls your app permissions.
You can configure it to automatically remove permissions after using relevant app.
Also you can reset permissions.
It might help you.?
You can Google around a and see reviews.
To give you a idea, look at my screenshot.
Sorry, can't give any links, as it a paid app.
Good luck
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Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
check find my mobile.apk and samsung internet browser.apk if at all installed official apps from apkmirror etc the uninstall that apk and go through galaxy store but in galaxy store dont update findmymobile.apk
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Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
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The facebook app is infamous for being a total battery hog, I disabled it and all aps related to it
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Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
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I suggest you take another look at your Bouncer settings.
You can auto remove it.
I had it on this setting but, change it to lock notifications, as i had better control.
Also remember to back up your Bouncer settings.
If ever you make a mistake you can just import you permission settings.
I forgot to do this a one stage and had to redo over Bouncer 200 apps.. Permissions...!
Otherwise if not sure as dev of Bouncer, for assistance
Good luck
It seems to happen that when my G7 Thinq has no more free RAM left, kills running apps like Spotify, Play Music(not any more), Netflix and others. It kills them even I started recently, or I am listening to music, or I am using Maps while driving or streaming Netflix to Chromecast. So it makes no possible to use these apps normally. I am thinking of buying a new phone just because of that. Does anyone know a solution? I tried being updated, hard reset and uninstalling the apps that more RAM consume.
Wich Android version are you using? Had this problems with the stock verizon rom , too much bloat
Crossflashed the canadian android 10 and everything is miles better .
But uf you dont want to crossflash try to disable the carrier apps , if using chrome switch to a less ram intensive browser and avoid duplicated apps
i'm on android 10 and have the same problem it even disables live wallpapers
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Wich Android version are you using? Had this problems with the stock verizon rom , too much bloat
Crossflashed the canadian android 10 and everything is miles better .
But uf you dont want to crossflash try to disable the carrier apps , if using chrome switch to a less ram intensive browser and avoid duplicated apps
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Thanks for answering. I did all the LG updates, I am stock rom updated. Mine is not verizon, just normal LG bought in Europe. I don't use chrome or duplicated apps. What you mean with "carrier apps"?
CincoNuestro said:
Thanks for answering. I did all the LG updates, I am stock rom updated. Mine is not verizon, just normal LG bought in Europe. I don't use chrome or duplicated apps. What you mean with "carrier apps"?
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Some carriers have preinstalled apps like games and apps , some of them are very heavy on resources .
Are you using pie or android 10 ? May I suggest trying the smart doctor app , I usually advice against the use of the apps , but this looks like some background process that refuses to let go , run the smart doctor app , Is built in to the phone , after that close all the apps from the recent apps screen , reboot the phone and see if that helps .
If it persist , would you mind upload a screenshot of the ram usage ? It may give us a clue about whats happening .
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Some carriers have preinstalled apps like games and apps , some of them are very heavy on resources .
Are you using pie or android 10 ? May I suggest trying the smart doctor app , I usually advice against the use of the apps , but this looks like some background process that refuses to let go , run the smart doctor app , Is built in to the phone , after that close all the apps from the recent apps screen , reboot the phone and see if that helps .
If it persist , would you mind upload a screenshot of the ram usage ? It may give us a clue about whats happening .
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Thanks for the help, man. It is Android 10. I just used Smart Doctor, and I will check the next days if the problem persists. About memory usage, I will upload in the next days, but it gives the following averages(24h):
3.4 GB
Normal performance
Total memory 3.8 GB
Average use 88%
Free 452 MB
Try disabling Adaptive Battery, I've read some people had troubles with it similar to yours
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Try disabling Adaptive Battery, I've read some people had troubles with it similar to yours
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I have tried things like that, but this settings are confusing to me. I am not sure what means to allow or refuse an app to work, etc.