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Inexpensive "TREsemmé brand" screen protector!

I didn't feel like paying for another screen protector, so I checked out what could substitute at my local hardware store. I settled on 4 mil plastic sheeting and Aersol extra hold hairspray as the adhesive. The plastic sheeting is labeled as follows:
STORM WINDOW
PROTECTIVE COVER
COLD FRAME
Hairspray brand is TRESsemmé TRES TWO extra hold (aersol spray can).
Works extremely well. 2 feet of plastic sheeting from the hardware store cost $2, the hairspray cost $2 at Walmart.
I also just skinned my laptop with it. I still have a huge amount of material left over. It is more work and would be easy to screw up, you can't touch the side where your applying the hairspray or it will gunk up and leave a visible white patch underneath. You need to lay it on your hand and spray down onto the plastic, then lay the object you are skinning down onto the plastic. If you screw up, no big loss, the hairspray cleans up with water.

NorskeDivision said:
I didn't feel like paying for another screen protector, so I checked out what could substitute at my local hardware store. I settled on 4 mil plastic sheeting and Aersol extra hold hairspray as the adhesive. The plastic sheeting is labeled as follows:
STORM WINDOW
PROTECTIVE COVER
COLD FRAME
Hairspray brand is TRESsemmé TRES TWO extra hold (aersol spray can).
Works extremely well. 2 feet of plastic sheeting from the hardware store cost $2, the hairspray cost $2 at Walmart.
I also just skinned my laptop with it. I still have a huge amount of material left over. It is more work and would be easy to screw up, you can't touch the side where your applying the hairspray or it will gunk up and leave a visible white patch underneath. You need to lay it on your hand and spray down onto the plastic, then lay the object you are skinning down onto the plastic. If you screw up, no big loss, the hairspray cleans up with water.
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WTF...Tressemme are you kidding me? dude that's gonna make ur device all icky.

Can't even imagine gunking up any of my devices and would not recommend any of the chemicals in hairsprays on digitizers or other surfaces, don't even use the stuff on my hair, haha.
Besides, I'd rather spend $2 on a proper screen protector that lasts me on average 3-6 months and save myself all the labour used to apply one from a hardware store + hairspray. I charge $60/h in labour costs, so in the long run much cheaper for me to just buy a ready-made PET protector.

4 mil you say? As in thick?

The point is I sell many products, so saving $5 many times over saves me a lot of money.
And no, it does not "gunk up your device" any more than the adhesive on any other screen protector does. You spray it on the screen protector, then apply to phone.
Anyway, this is just info for anyone else wondering about cheap screen protector material en-bulk. Was hoping maybe someone had experience or a suggestion as to a slightly more durable protector. The hairspray adhesive works very well, but the storm window covering does scratch after a few months. I'd prefer the high quality stuff they have at invisible shield, but I've yet to find a way of buying a roll or for that matter even a few square meters of it.

enigma1nz said:
4 mil you say? As in thick?
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Yup. 1 mil is .0254 mm, so 4 mil is about .1mm. Doesn't cause any problems with touch sensitivity.

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[Q] Cleaning the Leather Back?

Alright so I'm sure everyone who has the leather back and has not put a cover on it yet can see that the leather back is getting dirty.
It might be just me but i have the brown leather back. The stitches have gotten blackish and not white like they were in the beginning and the back just keeps getting a darker shade!
Any of you guys try to clean it? If so how'd you do it?
Is it okay to take the back off and clean it under water?
Or should i use windex.
I don't wanna ruin the leather attempting to clean it!

Areebkhan said:
Alright so I'm sure everyone who has the leather back and has not put a cover on it yet can see that the leather back is getting dirty.
It might be just me but i have the brown leather back. The stitches have gotten blackish and not white like they were in the beginning and the back just keeps getting a darker shade!
Any of you guys try to clean it? If so how'd you do it?
Is it okay to take the back off and clean it under water?
Or should i use windex.
I don't wanna ruin the leather attempting to clean it!
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DO NOT USE WINDEX OR RUN WATER. That will ABSOLUTELY ruin your leather.
I bought a cheap bottle of leather treatment from CVS for about $6. You spray two coats on it, and you're good to go. It actually gave the leather a nice, grippy-er, feel. And it helps protect from wetness. After that, you should be able to use any type of leather cleaner to keep it looking fresh.

chadbot3k said:
DO NOT USE WINDEX OR RUN WATER. That will ABSOLUTELY ruin your leather.
I bought a cheap bottle of leather treatment from CVS for about $6. You spray two coats on it, and you're good to go. It actually gave the leather a nice, grippy-er, feel. And it helps protect from wetness. After that, you should be able to use any type of leather cleaner to keep it looking fresh.
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HAHAHA!!
THANK YOUU!
I knew it was good to ask before doing something!
So cleaning it with that leather treatment gives it the shine back aswell?

chadbot3k said:
DO NOT USE WINDEX OR RUN WATER. That will ABSOLUTELY ruin your leather.
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chadbot3k said:
DO NOT USE WINDEX OR RUN WATER. That will ABSOLUTELY ruin your leather.
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chadbot3k said:
DO NOT USE WINDEX OR RUN WATER. That will ABSOLUTELY ruin your leather.
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Quoted for emphasis. Definitely a very good thing that the OP asked.
I use Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather Aloe Cleaner followed by Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather Aloe Conditioner. Yes, I do my own auto detailing, and yes, I hate it when people use cleaners inappropriately and screw up whatever they were trying to clean. My parents are seriously guilty of that and it left me with cleaning-related faux-PTSD flashbacks decades later.
The G4's back wasn't shiny from the factory, but certain cleaners will produce a slight matte sheen on the leather.

Areebkhan said:
HAHAHA!!
THANK YOUU!
I knew it was good to ask before doing something!
So cleaning it with that leather treatment gives it the shine back aswell?
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Yes, it will keep your leather back looking mostly new. Most importantly it will protect against getting wet, which will stain your leather.

Any kind of leather treatment that adds a "shine" is no good in my eyes. I have had a few european luxury cars and i can tell you this...best thing i have ever used to clean my seats and other areas has been...BABYWIPES!!
Seriously it does not take away from the natural state or satin look of the leather and actually clean it very well. If it good enough for your babys ass.....its good enough for the skin on your phone!
You dont have to take my word for it though.
BTW got it wet today. there was a slight dark spot for a fe minutes but went away fully

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I use Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather Aloe Cleaner followed by Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather Aloe Conditioner. Yes, I do my own auto detailing, and yes, I hate it when people use cleaners inappropriately and screw up whatever they were trying to clean. My parents are seriously guilty of that and it left me with cleaning-related faux-PTSD flashbacks decades later.
The G4's back wasn't shiny from the factory, but certain cleaners will produce a slight matte sheen on the leather.
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These kinds of products are unavailable outside the US so we need alternatives.
What do you make of the advice given in this video ?
House hold items available in any country.
white vinegar to clean
shaving foam to remove ink stains
corn starch to remove grease
From the user manual
This product is made of cattle hide and may have different creases and patterns due to the properties of natural leather. If the product gets wet with any liquid (water, soda, seawater, rain, sweat, sunscreen, cosmetics, moisture, etc.), it may lose colour, change colour, or deform in shape.
When this product gets wet or contaminated, get rid of the water by pressing it gently with a dry towel, or wipe it with leather cream and leave it to dry in shade. When the product is exposed to a wet environment for a long time, it may cause creases or mould. The shape of the leather may not be restored to its original state after cleaning because of the properties of leather, and any contamination or deformity may get worse when using regular detergent or an organic solvent.
When the leather is wet with rain or sweat, use caution and avoid contact with clothes. It can cause any dye to become a stain.
Due to the nature of leather, friction for long periods of time or excessive force may damage the surface of the leather.
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This is an important thread or there's going to be a few unhappy people later on.

I used new baseball glove condtioner.
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what i got is you need a cleaner and then a conditioner.
the cleaner to remove stains and a conditioner to maintain the material.

Mr clean magic eraser to clean it. That's what we use in the automotive detailing world
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I don't know how I feel about the advice in the video. Those suggestions are very common, but I haven't tried them personally. People have conflicting things to say about the extreme acidity of vinegar against the mild acidity of leather, which is why you need to dilute the vinegar in the first place. One alternate suggestion I've read is to use Woolite 10:1 to 6:1 (water:Woolite). Another I've read is Dove soap. Don't use saddle soap, which has a pH level way too basic for leather cleaning.
What I can say is that you should use a soft terry or microfiber cloth to apply the cleaning solution, then wipe it off with a dry cloth. Don't apply a solution directly to the leather and don't apply too much at once. Even the moisture from a water-dampened cloth isn't the worst thing in the world if you're just quickly wiping on and off. Just don't soak the leather in anything, like running it under a stream of water. It's too porous to not absorb it. Once it's clean, condition it so you have some kind of protection from future stains.
As clichéd as this sounds, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I'm not a super clean freak, but I try to keep my hands clean when I handle the G4. I don't touch the back of it while eating and I try to keep it away from beverages. However, I'm planning to get a plastic back for the G4 as my regular back cover and only use the leather occasionally.

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I don't know how I feel about the advice in the video. Those suggestions are very common, but I haven't tried them personally. People have conflicting things to say about the extreme acidity of vinegar against the mild acidity of leather, which is why you need to dilute the vinegar in the first place. One alternate suggestion I've read is to use Woolite 10:1 to 6:1 (water:Woolite). Another I've read is Dove soap. Don't use saddle soap, which has a pH level way too basic for leather cleaning.
What I can say is that you should use a soft terry or microfiber cloth to apply the cleaning solution, then wipe it off with a dry cloth. Don't apply a solution directly to the leather and don't apply too much at once. Even the moisture from a water-dampened cloth isn't the worst thing in the world if you're just quickly wiping on and off. Just don't soak the leather in anything, like running it under a stream of water. It's too porous to not absorb it. Once it's clean, condition it so you have some kind of protection from future stains.
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Thanks. Even with various leather cleaners around its a tricky affair to do it properly for the layperson. Not impossible. As long as one is aware.
As clichéd as this sounds, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I'm not a super clean freak, but I try to keep my hands clean when I handle the G4. I don't touch the back of it while eating and I try to keep it away from beverages.
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hehe, this advice will fall on deaf ears as its impossible to follow. Force of habit. it no secret that keyboards and touch screens contain more bacteria than toilet seats
However, I'm planning to get a plastic back for the G4 as my regular back cover and only use the leather occasionally.
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Bingo! thats is the conclusion i'm reaching too. The idea of leather is fantastic but if you want to look good then be prepared to put in the work.
Leather is just not that practical for day to day in a phone usage scenario..
But it looks so good <sigh>

One of the things I've learned in both buffing/polishing and interior detailing is to not work too large of a surface area at once. You don't want to let a product set or dry before you can work on it. The product ends up being harder to remove and/or stains your surface.
When it comes to patina, the issue for me is that the leather surface is small, so any marks will be more visible. I look at my travel wallet, which I haven't used much, and I'm annoyed that there is wear on one of its corners and the color has rubbed off. I'm far less concerned about a scuff on the seat in my car. Still, I don't own any leather furniture because of the upkeep required.
There are photos one of the Android Central staff posted of a used brown leather Moto X. I don't think it looks bad, and if it came that way out of the box, I don't think anyone would have thought it was dirty. If you're like me though, you like keeping things looking like new. I'm getting better about conditioning or protecting new leather products before wearing them or breaking them in.
The black leather G4 cover would be much more forgiving with stains, but aside from lack of carrier availability, I only would have preferred that version if it had contrasting stitching.

Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm a complete noob at this and have no idea where to start. I was thinking of getting the leather honey conditioner from Amazon, but still wasn't sure if that would be appropriate. No clue where to begin on cleaners. I have the black leather back btw

xbayyx said:
Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm a complete noob at this and have no idea where to start. I was thinking of getting the leather honey conditioner from Amazon, but still wasn't sure if that would be appropriate. No clue where to begin on cleaners. I have the black leather back btw
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I've had a bottle of Leather Honey since about 2000 (before they changed the name), and that's what I used on my leather back. It didn't darken the tan leather (unfortunately), though it did make it a bit sticky for a bit. If you go this route, apply it sparingly before going to bed.
Since this is a thread about cleaning, I feel obligated to mention that product is for protecting leather only, although I believe the same company makes a cleaning product as well.

Samsung G20 S is an amazing phone and more delicate than eggs

I decided to switch carriers and try a new smart phone and went with Tmobile and a Galaxy 20S. I was surprised on how slim and light the phone is upon picking it up. The retail store did not have any cases I liked so I ordered a case off Amazon and decided to not take my phone out of the house until I had a case for it. Well......
I had my phone for about 4 days using it in the house. My phone was sitting on the arm rest of my couch and slid off , dropped and landed on the laminate floor. A fall of less than 20". The rear glass cover is cracked on opposite corner edges.
My phone and camera work fine but I am simply amazed at how fragile the 20S is or maybe its just my 20S. I have no idea if its a factory defect and I have never seen anything like it. Its really more fragile than an egg. If the phone is this delicate it should come WITH some type of case or more durable gorilla glass. I am 57 years old and owned several brands of smart phones ( coming from an LG V30) and I have never dropped or broken a phone before in my life. Be aware my cracked 20S could be a fluke or a sign of a bigger issue. Now I need to find a place to replace mt rear cover.
The Galaxy 20 S needs a GOOD case so be advised if you have one be darn careful with it. The quality of the phone ( use) is excellent , its the durability issue that makes me concerned. If a laminate floor cracked the rear glass a drop on concrete will likely kill the phone. Pretty sad for a device that costs a grand or more.

Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................

Rear screen and replacement from a Samsung authorized repair center is $109.17 / FYI

cal50 said:
It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................
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Just got to be careful of where you put and how you handle it.
I haven't dropped or broken a phone or misplaced one in 12 years.
Mainly because i see the item as $$$ and to get $$$ took me months of hard work.

It's WAY more break prone than other phones.
Watch and wait . Great phone for function and features, build durability is iffy at best,IMHO.

If you spend over a thousand dollars for a phone in this day and age a good case is mandatory. Otherwise you are just playing Russian Roulette and sooner or later it's gonna fall on the floor. I love the OtterBox cases. I had the commuter for many years for the S7 edge and Note 8. When I got the Ultra 512 gb I want with the Defender Pro and glad I did. First day I got the phone it was knocked off the kitchen table at work and landed on a concrete floor. Not even a scratch. So you can either wait for your beautiful caseless phone to shatter when you have an oooops moment or you can invest in a top quality case.

Everyone, well most of us, have heard the expression you cannot have your cake and eat it too!
This applies well to our beloved smart phones.
You can have something durable in its creaky, plasticky, feels like a piece of s4!+ design and all (Blackberry anyone?) that can be kicked, tossed, dropped, etc. Doesn't need a case at all.
Or the latest designs that are thin, glass on front and back with metal trim that feel like quality in hand with no squeaks or twists when handled. But if you drop them without a case you will regret it! Even if the glass doesn't chip or break there will be nicks/scratches in the bezel/frame that gets the best of the OCD types.
So now we have cases that are essentially mandatory to everyone that has to carry their devices around. The best cases combine looks/feel while offering adequate protection and then some are purely based on protective qualities alone that make our phones feel like bricks!
I do like thin cases like Pitaka but also will use something with a bit more protection if I'm running around outdoors or up in the air (tower/ladder/tree) etc. I used to use a rigid holster that would fit a specific case but gave up on those due to having to buy so many. And they didn't actually protect the screen as well as you'd think. I use a pouch now with a clip for belt and has a loop that my Grip6 belt can pass through making it utterly impossible to lose the pouch with phone safely inside.
The only thing I haven't figured out is how to make a case puppy teeth proof!

Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.

cal50 said:
Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.
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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.

Damage the front glass, display or camera module and a $109 rear cover will be a bargain.

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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.
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If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.

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If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.
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The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.

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The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.
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Ah so it's not flush

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Ah so it's not flush
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Its flush, but for example if i wet the surface with a cloth then place my phone down. The case is wet, the camera lens is dry.

back glass strength

I had my Razr in my back pocket the other week, and when i sat down in a car i heard a quiet cracking noise, the back glass cracked.... How hard is it to swap and are they really that brittle? Thanks!

I can't speak for how hard it is to install the new one but it's literally just a piece of glass with the adhesive strips. It'd be pretty trivial with a spudger/knife and a heat-gun. It looks like the going rate for a new one is around $100USD from AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002618579898.html

Glass only bends so much. It's neither solid nor liquid, an amorphous solid. A bizarre material, the laws of hydraulics can apply to it. Making some of it's behaviors seem baffling.
I have a Note 10+, which is huge. I always wear bdu pants. The thigh cargo pockets are perfect for phones.
Watch a tear down vid of that phone before you dig in. Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.

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Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.
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This is huge, make sure you have those adhesive strips!

In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.

kreoll said:
In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.
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Welcome to XDA
You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.

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Welcome to XDA
You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.
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True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.

kreoll said:
True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.
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Yeah it's a trade off.
Sometimes it's more practical to tether the phone if you have a tether point.
BDU pants have cargo pockets that are perfect for stashing phones.
Belt pouches are another option.
The occasional fast as on ice slipe/hip-shoulder fall/landing on the phone side might not end well.
There's only so much you can reasonably do.

Question Galaxy A72 scratches due to Samsung case

Hello everyone, has anyone else noticed in Galaxy A72 and Galaxy A52 that the Official Samsung cases are leaving marks and scratches on the plastic surrounding of the phone? My A72 phone looks like full of scratches and a friend has the same issue with his A52. Talking to Samsung Greece and they won't believe me saying i made the scratches myself.... Same answer to my friend. Can anyone help me in what could i do to be heard from the company?

Keep inside of case clean and free of debris.
Use some fine 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper to smooth inside of case if needed.
Stretching some teflon tape around the phone's edge will help.
Use another case.
Most untreated hard plastics are relatively soft and prone to scratches... of course Samsung isn't responsible unless it arrived like that... never mind Samsung's poor material choices

blackhawk said:
Keep inside of case clean and free of debris.
Use some fine 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper to smooth inside of case if needed.
Stretching some teflon tape around the phone's edge will help.
Use another case.
Most untreated hard plastics are relatively soft and prone to scratches... of course Samsung isn't responsible unless it arrived like that... never mind Samsung's poor material choices
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I agree with the poor material of Samsung phones.... Makes me think to sell everything and switch to iphone instead of trying to fix samsung cases The support is the worst ever they won't even believe me

nick1908 said:
I agree with the poor material of Samsung phones.... Makes me think to sell everything and switch to iphone instead of trying to fix samsung cases The support is the worst ever they won't even believe me
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If you used any phone in a case and paid attention this should be common knowledge by now. Even on the N10+ frame rail scratches can happen on the anodized aluminum.
Frequent cleaning of the inside of the case and keeping the phone clean in general helps.
I leave the protective factory film on the side rails until it falls off because of this.
You could use something like mylar wire marking tape to protect it

blackhawk said:
If you used any phone in a case and paid attention this should be common knowledge by now. Even on the N10+ frame rail scratches can happen on the anodized aluminum.
Frequent cleaning of the inside of the case and keeping the phone clean in general helps.
I leave the protective factory film on the side rails until it falls off because of this.
You could use something like mylar wire marking tape to protect it
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I was using cases in other phones and never had that. Always took care of my phones and cases.... Are we using a case for beauty or in order NOT to have scratches? This happens due to 2 things , low quality of material and low quality of the cases...

You use a case to protect the phone from a 2-4 foot drop onto concrete.
Take what you have learned and move forward...