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Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.
PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.
i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did
I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7
I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring
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ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.
yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...
Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.
The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.
I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here
Ok, let's say there is something to this New Note 7 problem.
What phone would you get?
Has to be Android...
HTC 10?
Maybe LG V20?
Pixel?
S7 egde?
I know.... Questions, questions, questions!!!
Has to be a flagship phone and have an S-pen type feature, so none of the current offerings. Have already reactivated my Nexus 6P and will wait a while to see what shakes out.
Wait for S8E... But it will be a pain because I still own a S4
If there is another recall. I hope they just replace it with s7e
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I'll just stick with my Note4 and wait for the Note8, might go the route and flash a Note7 ROM
Since there's no other phone that I absolutely like right now, I will probably just revert back to my Note 4 and be contract free for some time, hoping something better comes along. I had the S7 Edge for a few weeks, and I found it was unresponsive and lagging at times, so there's really no alternative for me.
No idea. In my case in the US I switched carriers so my old device has already been sold and I would have to get something else immediately or terminate my contract with them. I would say Pixel XL if it was sold though AT&T.
i wish they sold the moto z force in the netherlands, no brainer!
perfect specs, almost stock android, shattershield glass (better than gorilla glass 5) waterproof etc etc.
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-droid-edition
I'm giving my note 4 to my daughter.. So I need a new phone.
I'm choosing between
1. Google pixel
2. LG v20
3. Sony xz
Hopefully such thing is not happening as Note 7 satisfies almost all my criteria for a good phone... If it does and since none of the current offerings by other OEM able to fulfill what I want, I will just have to go back to my Note 1 (chose it because it has the biggest screen at that time + a stylus)...
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I'm giving my note 4 to my daughter.. So I need a new phone.
I'm choosing between
1. Google pixel
2. LG v20
3. Sony xz
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Give your daughter a new phone and keep the N4, it has no competition out there.
But at the original starter: there is no other high-end phone out there with a stylus, bar the Note series. If you want a stylus, you'll need to get a Note 4 or 5. The Note 4 is only available second hand and the Note 5 only via grey import. I've made a shortlist myself:
Note 4: only secondhand, SW support has been stopped after MM.
Note 5: no SD, 128 GB version expensive. No European version.
LG V20: not available until at least early 2017, no hardware buttons on the front, no OLED.
Google Pixel XL: way to expensive, no hardware buttons, the big chin is ridiculous
Nexus 6P: again no HW buttons. not a fan of the design (back look likes the white droid from Wall-E)
Axon7: new brand to me. What about support? Their market launch was scrappy.
Moto Z Force Droid: only available on 1 US carrier.
Huawei Mate 9: should be introduced shortly. Big screen, but no HW buttons. Presumably a LCD screen.
S7E: bloody edges... go away! I strongly dislike the glass allround design. It is slippery as hell and gives me back the nightmares I had with my S4 which handled like a wet bar of soap as well.
1+3: delivery times galore. But seems like the best bet for now, especially for the price.
iPhone 7+: Yes, I said it. I would almost consider an iPhone. Especially with the ridiculous price fro the Pixel XL with 128 GB. It should net a good resale price for the S8 Stylus to arrive.
If you want a flagship phone with a 6" flat screen, the choices are dire to non-excistent.
I feel yea, if I have to turn in the Note 7 (which is looking increasingly likely), there isn't really another phone that covers it all.
S7 Edge gives the curved edge, water resistance, camera, SD card, and next-in-class screen.
Note 5 gives me the Stylus.
Mean I'm probably looking at the S7 Edge. *sigh* I just don't like the look of it as much as the Note 7. it's TOO rounded, not just the glass, but the body as well.
Edit...The more I think about it, the more I lean towards the note 5. Camera isn't as good, but the screen is still solid, and I'm really liking the stylus now. SD card...well, most of my music is in the cloud, photos auto back up to the cloud, so end of day, I'm really just losing on water resistance and the AOD, and curved edge. (which I like, because...bezel less on the sides now!)
Guess I'm leaning toward the pixel XL.
I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.
I just talked to Best Buy mobile 10 minutes ago. They told me I need to bring my replacement Note7 in immediately. "a Second recall is coming very soon" I can exchange it for any phone however since I was leasing the Note7 I only have leasing options for a Samsung S7E, LG or Iphone. Any other phone would need to be purchased outright. I asked about the Pixel XL and they told me that I would have to purchase the unlocked $829 phone outright from Google to bring to Sprint. so this Note7 issues goes from bad to worse for users.
notefreak said:
I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.
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You may not have a choice unless you want to use a Gimped phone.
If they do a 2nd recall and cripple the Battery.
notefreak said:
I would get none. Not giving competition more reasons to gloat.
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Ohhh and Samsung has screwed the Pooch but good here.
I've had every Note and this is problem for me...
There is always a choice. Previous phone, no phone at all, 80% phone...
Same boat here. My note 3 was awesome, still works and runs like new ( on MM currently). Still plenty fast. The only dilemma is I gave it to my son already.
I've been using this s7 edge for a few weeks now waiting on the new batch of note 7's. It's very close performance and spec wise. I just refuse to pay full price for this phone though since it's NOT what I wanted. They had me return / refund my note 7 and buy this in its place. They then said I could return it regardless of how long it took to get a new note 7.... but I think that was just the manager of the store looking out for me. What if I keep this and he gets transferred during the wait, as it looks like this will take a while.
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I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
Try it hands on style and report back. Good luck
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What's that based on? Have you had a chance to handle the 5T? (Not trying to be funny, just curious)
I'm aware of the differences in specs. Looking at value, pocketing a couple hundred bucks while having a very similar experience is appealing.
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It feels like I see something weekly about them stealing user data. No thanks. Also 1080 screen, no water resistance, some new BS camera that will under perform....nah. Happy with my Note 8 and 2 XL.
No, I haven't touched the 5T and have no desire to.
taifuller said:
I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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Do what you want, bro.
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dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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Not completely true. I just came from the 3T. It was great except the camera. It actually took over as my favorite phone (that I've owned) from the S3. I also have a OnePlus One and bought the 5 but didn't like it so I kept my 3T until I got the 2 XL.
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See my previous comment to give you context to back up my opinion.
I agree, I have the note 8 and 2 xl currently. Thinking hard about returning 2 xl and buying the 5t. I got a locked bootloader also, this phone isnt as fun as a unlocked. Ill never buy from verizon again. I got lucky last year and was able to use depixel8 before the patch, not so lucky this time around.
the only advantage oneplus has over pixel is the price but if you can afford pixel, pixel is better choice.
Oneplus wont update the phone beyond 2 updates, that means you'll have to depend on custom roms after android P.
Also this my personal point of view that they are drifting away from the stock android slowly, their useless apps like clock, calculator, dialer doesnt make sense.
releasing a phone every 6 months is another thing i dont like.
pixel has faster updates, longer support, better camera.
I'm an ex oneplus 3 and oneplus 3t user btw.
but ultimately things do come to your personal preference and point of view.
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nothing beats the stock android experience...Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
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I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
I had the OnePlus 5, awesome phone considering the price.
But the camera sucks, no waterproofing, and slow updates.
Plus the updated launcher sucks.
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I'm confused. The phone is awesome, but because you apparently chose to buy the Verizon version and the bootloader is locked, you don't like it.
First of all, you do realize that 99.9% of the population has no F-ing clue what a bootloader is, nor will they ever in a million years care to find out.
But according to you, Google is somehow at fault for allowing a carrier to sell a phone with an insignificant modification none of its mainstream customers will care about. And somehow this is a "problem"?
If you are so outraged about the bootloader, why didn't you buy the device directly from Google?
Second of all, since when does the Pixel 2 XL run stock Android? Stock Android is the latest AOSP build. At this point Google has a thinly skinned Android variant that can only be described as "Google's Android".
And if you're so into "stock" Android, why does it matter if the bootloader is locked? So you can put a custom rom onto the device and thereby not use "stock" Android?
Apologies but your post seems to have no purpose than to bash the Pixel 2 XL and suggest that buying another device is a good idea. Why do we need to tell you what to do? If you don't like it, get rid of it. End of story.
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Well, thanks for your point of view. Certainly wasn't my intent to upset you or anyone else who enjoys the phone.
I never cited the bootloader lock as an issue for not liking the phone. I do LIKE the phone. Obviously I do not think it's a deal breaker because I DID knowing purchase a bootloader locked edition of the phone. My point is times are changing and I either need to change with them or find a better value. I said was disappointed in Google for allowing the change.
I'm stating from a value standpoint there may be other options that offer a similar experience. Of course value is perceived by everyone differently.
Thinking back to the Nexus 5, in my opinion one of the best phones released under Google's hand, was awesome because of the value. Yes, I'm aware that when the Nexus 6 came out we left value land for premium land.
What I meant by bringing up the 5T is - I can purchase very similar hardware for less and run the same applications at no additional costs. The trade off is a sacrifice in screen quality and camera quality??
Thank you on your clarification of what the true stock android experience is. To clarify, I prefer "Google's Android" to other manufacturer's implementation of Android. Is that better?
I got great feedback from others that I reminded me of the non-tangible benefits of owning the Pixel over a different device.
dhaugru said:
One Plus is trash. Keep the XL.
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more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
2x4 said:
more like, OnePlus is amazing for the price, but Pixel 2 XL is better in nearly every way (except charging speed)
Source: own/ed OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL
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I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
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I bought the OPO and OP2 from them. The OPO, great...the OP2....terrible. I have also been active on their forum for years and that has told me all I need to know about them.
They will not see anymore of my money.
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i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
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i didn't get the OP2 since I read terrible reviews about it, but I did get the OP3 and it has been amazing to be honest in my experience (except for the GPS lock bug that was present a few months, which has since been resolved). I am both impressed by the fluidity, speed, and frequency of updates on their software and disappointed by their decision to only provide major feature updates on the OP3/T for such a short time (not to mention launch the OP5T without Oreo)
I got the Pixel XL 2 since I wanted a better camera and so my SO could use my OP3 with 2 SIM cards (for more data), but I could have easily kept it and kept using it past the SW timeline via custom ROMs - even the camera is pretty amazing once you sideload the GCAM mod that lets you use Google's algorithm (SIGNIFICANTLY better post-processing than the stock camera)
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Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
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Yeah see that's the thing for me....I don't want to have to d*ck with custom ROMs or sideloading anything. My communication is way too important to me to take chances modding my device.
Glad you like the 2 XL. I am happy with it as well. Currently flipping back and forth between the 2 XL and Note 8. Can't decide which one I like more...depends on the day. :laugh:
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What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
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I managed to pick up a Pixel 2 XL about a week ago. Initially I was very impressed and excited about it. 48 hours later I was "meh". The camera is great, assistant awesome at interpreting requests and to me - nothing beats the stock android experience.
Frankly I'm a bit disappointed at Google for allowing Verizon to sell this phone (and Google selling it) with the bootloader locked.
History:
I've owned every Nexus/Pixel since Google and HTC released the very first device.
Before the Pixel I used the S8. I preferred it's size to the S8+.
I think my dream device would be the Pixel experience in the S8 form factor or the Pixel XL's minimal bezel design in a smaller form factor. (angrily staring at the design team behind the Pixel 2)
After the 5T launch today - I'm toying with the idea of just buying one of those and selling this XL
What are your thoughts?
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No need to look angry at the design team mate. Can't make a small phone with small bezels without severely reducing the battery size. Which in turn will make battery life suck.
Gilley said:
What makes you pick the N8 somedays besides the screen? Curious not bashing.
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I like the procision of the S-Pen. I am also in sales and it's handy to quickly jot a quick note when working with customers to gain contact info or to highlight important points within the conversation.
I also use it as my in-flight media library with the expanded storage. The headphone jack is nice too!
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
Security updates, guaranteed project treble and 2 major updates are big selling for me. Plus you know you're going to have one of the best camera this year, and maybe camera keeps improving with updates.
Plus, with the release of pixel 3 and new camera technologies, you might see them ported for the Pixel 2 by some good XDA developers.
I'd only pick the S9 if you like media consumption (a.k.a good screen) or actually like samsung experience.
SpeederT12 said:
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
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Fwiw....it's whatever your the most happy with. Wait until the S9 comes out, and go play with them side by side, and see what you like the best. I'm totally happy with my P2XL, love the ability to root and mod all I want. Having said that, my wife's 8+ is a pleasure to look at. The screen is about as good as it gets, although I'm not a fan of the edge display, and the UI, although beautiful to look at, is just not as smooth as mine. Then there's the updates. If that's important to you, then there's no comparison. I really hope this edge display thing goes away soon, I hate it!!! Not to mention, a phone drop at the right angle, and it's off to the repair shop it goes! Happy hunting ??
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Fwiw....it's whatever your the most happy with. Wait until the S9 comes out, and go play with them side by side, and see what you like the best. I'm totally happy with my P2XL, love the ability to root and mod all I want. Having said that, my wife's 8+ is a pleasure to look at. The screen is about as good as it gets, although I'm not a fan of the edge display, and the UI, although beautiful to look at, is just not as smooth as mine. Then there's the updates. If that's important to you, then there's no comparison. I really hope this edge display thing goes away soon, I hate it!!! Not to mention, a phone drop at the right angle, and it's off to the repair shop it goes! Happy hunting ??
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Yeah, there's the problem - playing with them. I live in Bulgaria, Which means I haven't seen a Pixel 2 Irl and there's nowhere to play around with one. We shall see, the pixel 2 xl is really pulling me in, is it bad that It'll already be superseded when I buy it?
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Yeah, there's the problem - playing with them. I live in Bulgaria, Which means I haven't seen a Pixel 2 Irl and there's nowhere to play around with one. We shall see, the pixel 2 xl is really pulling me in, is it bad that It'll already be superseded when I buy it?
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Bulgaria huh...yeah I can see that as potentially problematic! ? Lets face it my friend, it's the tech world. The minute we buy something, it's old news 6 months latter! Good thing is, if you do get the P2XL, you'll have the latest software updates for 3 years! Decisions, decisions, what to do?? I kinda miss the day's of the flip phone being the norm. Decisions were much easier then ?
Well anything Samsung is gonna have laggier Samsung experience and very slow updates
Personal preference
Do you want stock Android or TouchWiz
Do you want fast updates or not
I like getting new features/updates quickly and for a long time and am allergic to TouchWiz from the S3Neo times. Though it might have changed now.
Imo the choice consists of deciding what's most important for you: having the latest available hardware for 12 months or having the latest available software for 2-3 years
Personally I came to the conclusion that I would be happier with a phone that is slightly slower in benchmarks (but still crazy fast in real life usage) and a phone that runs the latest available and closest to "stock Android" version possible.
I have no doubt the S9+ will be a terrific phone, but after many years using Sammy devices I got bored I felt I needed a more "pure" user experience, I never regretted doing the switch
Phones are so fast these days that I don't think there's that much benefits in upgrading every year to have the newest SoC possible. On the other hand choosing the software/user experience that is the best for you makes a big difference in the long run
Go with pixel 2. I haven't even touched my note 8. And I loved that phone
Your call,the Pixel 2 is here now, and the others have yet to be released....
This is why I always get phones within a month of release. You'll forever have "But in a few months the next [phone] will be released" in your mind. By the time the S9 is out, the Pixel 2XL will be 5-6 months "old" which will still be doing well but the S9 will have the latest and greatest hardware at the time. If vanilla vs skinned isn't a big deal for you, just wait it out for the S9 then. But if you think you're Z5 will do until the fall, then Pixel 3.
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This is why I always get phones within a month of release. You'll forever have "But in a few months the next [phone] will be released" in your mind. By the time the S9 is out, the Pixel 2XL will be 5-6 months "old" which will still be doing well but the S9 will have the latest and greatest hardware at the time. If vanilla vs skinned isn't a big deal for you, just wait it out for the S9 then. But if you think you're Z5 will do until the fall, then Pixel 3.
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I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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Sounds like you are stuck with the European prices. Only available in store through Verizon wireless carrier. Everyone else gets it through the Google Store.
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So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
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Cheers,
Alex
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bajasur said:
Personal preference
Do you want stock Android or TouchWiz
Do you want fast updates or not
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What HE^^^^^^ said!
Not only that, the 2 XL is already seeing development, and is new enough, IF the S9 turns out to be something you really want, the 2 XL will still bring a good resale price to apply toward the S9.
I can't imagine anything coming out this year will blow away the 2 XL. The 2 XL is a really great device!
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I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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I bought mine on eBay, couldnt wait, came from Ireland with stupid UK plug + adapter, but the seller is a German business
So far no problems, some blue tint that realy doesnt bother me, no burn-in nor bad speakers :good:
SpeederT12 said:
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
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What is more important to you - the software or the hardware?
I stayed away from the Googles-devices because of the hardware: No SD card slot, no replaceable battery, the new ones don't have an analog audio output, there are phones with better screens on the market...
But my Samsung Galaxy S4 was the last phone I owned where you could install AOSP-based ROMs and enjoy all the features. the LG G5 would run only with the stock ROM if you wanted to actually use all of its features. LOS-based ROMs were full of bugs and gaps, like bluetooth not working. Also, the device has only a few developers because nowadays developers focus on OnePlus and Google devices.
So I had to flash the LG ROM, then the GApps and then remove all the LG apps.
At the end each upgrade took me an evening and I had still the LG ROM with all of its downsides, stuck at Android 7.0.
With the Pixel 2 XL, i get an update every month. I can install it easily without wasting time. The software is also top notch, for the first time in my life I have an Android phone without feeling the need to install a custom ROM. There is no bloat. The camera is fantastic.
So all in all, the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I ever owned - for my personal needs.
But if you value e.g. an SD-card slot or an analog audio port higher than the software, go for the Samsung. It's your choice, but I would take the Pixel
I have Galaxy s8 + with Samsung experience 9.0 and I can tell you that isn't not bad at all but...
Faster updates, stock Android, really fast experience when you use it and the camera... My goodness... Google pixel 2 XL it's a beast.
And think that Android P it's arriving very soon and to Samsung maybe next year LOL
by the way I have a iPhone x too and try to know witch one it's my dayli driver ????? Yes Google pixel 2 XL
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider! ??
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider!
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Same. I wonder if they realize how many customers they are losing out on by continuing to not put in certain bands. Or, do they need someone's permission? Either way: notch = no sale, for me.
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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I understand somebody can upgrade their Pixel 2 XL to an S9 or S9+ with the main reason of having a way better screen, but I think OP6 screen will not be worth the switch.
If it worked on VZW, would ditch the Pixel and go back to the OnePlus in a second. It is better in every single way except the camera. But the 6 might close that gap more.
one thing is having used 3, 3T and 5, there is a touch latency where it cannot even beat Nexus 6p. seems liek there is lag while 6p, 2xl there isnt any.
however the 6 do interest me with the screen to size ratio.. notch doesnt bother me
Nada! Our Pixel XL 2 keeps getting better and better with more Development! Salute'
I was an upgrade every year user before but have turned into an every two year person now. So 2019 for me but I'm also still waiting for a Sprint compatible variant which will probably never come. I'll never be switching carriers as Sprint is good everywhere I need it to be and cost is good.
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I was thinking about getting one as a secondary device, just because it seems like OnePlus is replacing/has replaced the now dead Nexus line in terms of development.
It would be nice to have a device to just tinker with and install mods, ROMs, kernels, and so on.
But I'd definitely keep the Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver just because of things like the camera and overall smoothness of stock Android.
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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The day OnePlus supports Verizon is the day I will spend money on a phone of theirs. I am patiently waiting with money in hand.
Short ans no
Long ans still no
Cheers ?
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No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I see your points but just a little devil's advocate here, your missing one of the best reasons to get a OnePlus. It's got the best performance for the money. Yes they've been climbing up in price every year but it's still ~$250-$300 less than comparable Pixel and Galaxy phones. Yet it's one of the fastest in everyday multitasking, great RAM management, and very good battery. Even if they have it rise up to $599 for the higher OnePlus 6 model, it's still a decent savings.
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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Have you even owned a OnePlus 5T? Doesn't sound like it. You are spreading misinformation. The main developers are former XDA/Custom Rom Devs who were hired to work for OnePlus. They have Beta releases which they freely communicate and offer instructions/support how to install and run. The last Beta 3 had full fling/swipe gestures which at the same time expanded the screen fully, not the bad fling Nav gestures that are on the custom Roms here which still leave the bottom part of the screen blank/Nav space present and don't expand the view/icons etc to the bottom to gain full use. That is fully functioning in the OnePlus 5T Beta 3 released that is rock solid overall with few bugs. The profile of the 5T phone/near frameless/size are all way ahead of the Pixel 2 XL. The AMOLED screen is much better on the 5T than the Pixel XL 2 in every way. To say the screen is good on this phone is ridiculous with all of the verified off angle blue tint and other issues that became a public fiasco for Google. Mind boggling why this phone looks and performs the way it does with Google in control of the process. The only thing they don't have is the camera/software on the OnePlus. They have some of the best Devs who came from XDA/Custom Rom worlds...hence why they were hired to work for them. Read up on those facts/history is you would like. Also, they have some of the good Dev support from XDA, only second I would say to HTC Dev. This new Pixel with Treble has caused a lot of issues, and soon everybody is going to be dealing with, even OnePlus and other manufacturers since they have no choice. So the future should get better for everybody.
Clean Android experience? Oxygen OS is already pretty stripped down. You can run Nova on it like I do with the Pixel, or AOSP or whatever, it is just as generic and they are open to the standard Google Android experience as anybody, with their own twist if you choose to run their launcher.
Memory/processor loaded up on the OnePlus 5T. No SDCard like a lot of phones today, but dual sim slots if you need it. It is a great performing phone, up there with the best for much less money. If they implement VZW band support and improve that camera, I'm ditching this Google Pixel XL 2 phone is a heartbeat. I personally was running the latest Beta 3 on my 5T with swipe gestures and Nova, unlocked, rooted with blu_sprk custom Kernel/TWRP version and it was a phenomenal performer and great phone. Since I don't take a lot of photos and use the camera that much...really not a big deal. I have a $3k SLR if I want to be serious about photography to use.
But to each his own. Only reason I even am using this Pixel is because there are very few phones on VZW which you can unlock the bootloader/root and maintain functionality to customize it. Only other phone you can buy to do this really is a V30+, and even then, not as good as the Pixel 2 XL.
Not in a million years. On contract in the UK you're basically paying top dollar for a sub par phone. Did they ever fix the upside down jelly displays or put a decent cam in them yet?
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I'm forecasting the opposite. After not meeting sales projections for the year, they will drop this notch foolishness like a hot potato.
We each have a 50/50 shot at being correct. I hope I am, btw.