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So um...I'm kind of shocked.
I just unlocked the bootloader on my shiny new USA GSM Galaxy Nexus from Google Play and...my data was still there when I rebooted. No Android Wizard or anything.
It's as if I did nothing, but I checked MULTIPLE times and I'm unlocked. Got the unlock icon during boot and everything.
digweed4me said:
same here on mine my data was intact
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BlindWolf8 said:
Just relocked and unlocked again to make sure it wasn't some sort of weird fluke...looks like I'm immune. What's going on here? An unlock is supposed to wipe everything for security reasons.
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FredFS456 said:
So all the apps, app data, virtual sdcard files, etc. were all there?
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BlindWolf8 said:
Yessiree. Everything was still there. The phone acted as if nothing happened whatsoever, despite the onscreen warning about losing data.
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Archpope said:
Same thing happened to me. I was prepared to start all over, but doing the 4-in-1 from the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit, I was surprised to see the only changes were an unlock symbol appearing on the screen at bootup, and Google Wallet griping about my having an insecure phone.
I may re-lock the bootloader now that I've rooted. I'm not sure if I will lose root, but I only rooted to run an adblocker anyway.
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BlindWolf8 said:
For the record I didn't even do that. I simply did "fastboot oem unlock". I like to keep things simple.
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uoY_redruM said:
Got mine from the play store Friday. Unlock wiped nothing..
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Figured I'd just give ya all the info so you have it:
Stock bootloader shows:
FASTBOOT MODE
PRODUCT NAME - tuna
VARIANT - maguro 16GB
HW VERSION - 9
BOOTLOADER VERSION - PRIMELA03
BASEBAND VERSION - I9250XXLA2
CARRIER INFO - NONE
SERIAL NUMBER - [REDACTED] (I can give it if it's absolutely needed)
SIGNING - production
LOCK STATE - UNLOCKED
Download/Odin Mode shows:
OMAP-Samsung HW Information
Board Name: tuna REV 9
Board Rev: HSPA - 9
Boot Type: USB MMC1
Device Type: HS
Build Date: Jan 24 2012 18:27:20
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efrant said:
Hmmm. You do have a shipping (sorry, "production") bootloader, not an engineering one. Very interesting... Not sure why some devices wipe while others will not, upon unlocking.
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bilalakhtar said:
There are quite many security issues that could arise from being able to unlock the bootloader without wiping all data, for example, a hacker could get past your screen lock by:
1) Battery pull, then
2) Boot into bootloader using the key combination
3) fastboot oem unlock
4) Flash an unsecure boot.img that has r/w permissions
5) Edit the right files to remove screen lock
But I still have a feeling that this behavior with USA GSM Nexi is intended. Probably because Google intended that phone to be sold only to developers who are likely going to be unlocking bootloaders anyway, and decided to simplify the process?
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MERGED THREADS.
Mark.
bobsbbq said:
I don't think the Amazon is a USA version but an international version. If international version it will have to be shipped overseas for repair, Google Play has USA warranty. Also if you do decide to root the USA version does not wipe your device during the unlocking of bootloader like the international versions do.
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The USA version, as any other hspa+ version, DOES wipe userdata when unlocking the bootloader.
I have the USA version from the play store. My data wasn't wiped after unlocking the bootloader. Either way, its not a big deal. Warranty matters are much more important.
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bobsbbq said:
I don't think the Amazon is a USA version but an international version. If international version it will have to be shipped overseas for repair, Google Play has USA warranty. Also if you do decide to root the USA version does not wipe your device during the unlocking of bootloader like the international versions do.
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Nobody who has purchased a play store GN has reported wipe after unlock.
Mine from the play store did NOT wipe user data after unlocking. I am running CM9 and have locked and unlocked many times without wiping data.
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The USA version, as any other hspa+ version, DOES wipe userdata when unlocking the bootloader.
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Does NOT wipe actually. Maybe leave it to people with first hand experience to answer a question like this?
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Does NOT wipe actually. Maybe leave it to people with first hand experience to answer a question like this?
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Although it may be a bug that will be fixed in a later update so I don't know if the failure to wipe is a permanent feature. However, I can verify my GN didn't wipe either after unlocking.
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Does NOT wipe actually. Maybe leave it to people with first hand experience to answer a question like this?
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is this with the oem fastboot unlock method?
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Does NOT wipe actually. Maybe leave it to people with first hand experience to answer a question like this?
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I have 3 Play store Galaxy Nexus. They all wiped data when I unlocked bootloader. I think that's first hand experience. If it doesn't wipe the data, then that's a security risk.
Example: Just yesterday, I got tired of using CM9 and fastbooted the stock images without -w. I didn't want to go into recovery to wipe data and factory reset (because that just wipes data partition, not usb storage), so while in fastboot, I did fastboot oem lock then fastboot oem unlock. If it didn't wipe data, then my usb storage should've had a clockwordmod folder, music that I precache, and other various folders that were created from apps that were installed, and I wouldn't be introduced to the welcome screen upon bootup. Like I said, if it doesn't wipe data for you guys, then that's a security risk and you should be contacting Google. Because if you lose your phone, someone can oem unlock your phone and go through your data.
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is this with the oem fastboot unlock method?
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Yup.
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I have 3 Play store Galaxy Nexus. They all wiped data when I unlocked bootloader. I think that's first hand experience. If it doesn't wipe the data, then that's a security risk.
Example: Just yesterday, I got tired of using CM9 and fastbooted the stock images. I didn't want to go into recovery to wipe data and factory reset, so while in fastboot, I did fastboot oem lock then fastboot oem unlock. If it didn't wipe data, then my usb storage should've had a clockwordmod folder, music that I precache, and other various folders that were created from apps that were installed, and I wouldn't be introduced to the welcome screen upon bootup. Like I said, if it doesn't wipe data for you guys, then that's a security risk and you should be contacting Google. Because if you lose your phone, someone can oem unlock your phone and go through your data.
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Well then your statement about "The USA version, as any other hspa+ version" is at least inaccurate. As you can see, many people's data did not wipe when they unlocked their bootloaders, so all phones/situations are not the same.
And I'm not really worried about someone unlocking my bootloader if I lose my phone - it's already unlocked If I had data that precious on my phone, I wouldn't root in the first place.
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Yup.
Well then your statement about "The USA version, as any other hspa+ version" is at least inaccurate. As you can see, many people's data did not wipe when they unlocked their bootloaders, so all phones/situations are not the same.
And I'm not really worried about someone unlocking my bootloader if I lose my phone - it's already unlocked If I had data that precious on my phone, I wouldn't root in the first place.
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I was assuming that (maybe not the Docomo version) all GSM versions had the same hardware and if that's the case, then it's software related as to why your data's are not being wiped. Maybe the bootloader that came with the imm30d before it updated to imm76i doesn't wipe the data upon unlocking? Do me a favor, go into bootloader mode and tell me if your bootloader version is primela03.
I didn't get a chance to look at the bootloader versions when I received my Galaxy Nexus because I oem unlocked all three of them right away and fastbooted the latest takju images via flash-all.sh script on all of them just to avoid waiting for ota. I didn't want my dad and brother come to me and ask me "why is it telling me to update? What is it?"
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I was assuming that (maybe not the Docomo version) all GSM versions had the same hardware and if that's the case, then it's software related as to why your data's are not being wiped. Maybe the bootloader that came with the imm30d before it updated to imm76i doesn't wipe the data upon unlocking? Do me a favor, go into bootloader mode and tell me if your bootloader version is primela03.
I didn't get a chance to look at the bootloader versions when I received my Galaxy Nexus because I oem unlocked all three of them right away and fastbooted the latest takju images via flash-all.sh script on all of them just to avoid waiting for ota. I didn't want my dad and brother come to me and ask me "why is it telling me to update? What is it?"
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Interesting. I did the OTA update before unlocking.
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Edit: you realize that flashing factory images will also wipe your device, right?
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The USA version, as any other hspa+ version, DOES wipe userdata when unlocking the bootloader.
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Well sorry sir your wrong. At least I can say this for the first initial unlock and root using the Nexus tool kit. I have two of them and both of them did not wipe. When they booted up everything was the same as before I unlocked and rooted.
After reading some of the comments in the Tool Kit thread is is believed the USA version has a slightly different bootloader. Some think Google wanted to make it easier as they know people are going to root their phones.
There maybe other ways to unlock the bootloader which causes a wipe. But I can assure you using the tool kit doesn't.
I wont say that its not possible but I have read all the way through the play store gsm thread and not a single purchaser reported a wipe after unlock.
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Interesting. I did the OTA update before unlocking.
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Edit: you realize that flashing factory images will also wipe your device, right?
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Yes, but after flashing the takju images for them, i loaded it up and did testing on the phone to make sure everything was okay. Afterwards, I would lock, unlock, and lock the bootloader again to wipe all data (including usb storage). How do I know it wipes? Because I am presented with the setup wizard again upon boot, and all the sample photos that I've taken to test the camera in the DCIM folder are gone.
Someone mention they unlocked bootloader and rooted with toolkit. For all those that did not have data wipe, which method did you guys use? I didn't use toolkit, I did it the old fashion way with setting up ADB. I'm use to doing that way since the G1 days.
edit: I'm not calling anyone a liars and this information about a no wipe bootloader unlock is all new to me. I'm just trying to find out why it's not wiping for some people...
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Yes, but after flashing the takju images for them, i loaded it up and did testing on the phone to make sure everything was okay. Afterwards, I would lock, unlock, and lock the bootloader again to wipe all data (including usb storage). How do I know it wipes? Because I am presented with the setup wizard again upon boot, and all the sample photos that I've taken to test the camera in the DCIM folder are gone.
Someone mention they unlocked bootloader and rooted with toolkit. For all those that did not have data wipe, which method did you guys use? I didn't use toolkit, I did it the old fashion way with setting up ADB. I'm use to doing that way since the G1 days.
edit: I'm not calling anyone a liars and this information about a no wipe bootloader unlock is all new to me. I'm just trying to find out why it's not wiping for some people...
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So you have no way of knowing if your device was wiped the first time you unlocked, since you flashed factory images immediately afterwards. Could there be a difference between unlocking the first time and subsequent times? I wouldn't know because I only unlocked once.
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So you have no way of knowing if your device was wiped the first time you unlocked, since you flashed factory images immediately afterwards. Could there be a difference between unlocking the first time and subsequent times? I wouldn't know because I only unlocked once.
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Then there's a possibility that all GSM Galaxy Nexus doesn't wipe the first bootloader unlock. Maybe people didn't take notice the first time they did it. Just a theory.
Can anyone that relocked and unlocked the bootloader chime in and let us know if it wiped their data?
Dohctor maybe our play store versions are later revisions idk? All I know is I also have two galaxy nexuses from play store and when unlocking boot loader it did not erase the data that I had on my phone all of my apps were still there also. Obviously play store nexuses do not wipe data upon unlockingand who knows why. Anyways I will make a video to show the non believers I have no problem doing that.... I also relocked and unlocked boot loader because I tried starting dead fresh to get google wallet to work again let's just say that if u do not wipe or reset data inside the app your beat so I thought locking boot loader and unrooting then reflashing stock image would help. It didn't .... secure element is beat on my one device. So I unlocked the "relocked" boot loader ( this is what it says when u relock it) anyways it told me it would wipe data I proceeded. Rooted again threw touch recovery on booted into recovery and there was my aokp backup waiting for me ... so unlocked relocked and unlocked again...no data loss. Pretty cool I think of it as if u have data on your phone that is that important do not root then! So it not wiping data doesn't bother me. ....all using toolkit btw
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Dohctor maybe our play store versions are later revisions idk? All I know is I also have two galaxy nexuses from play store and when unlocking boot loader it did not erase the data that I had on my phone all of my apps were still there also. Obviously play store nexuses do not wipe data upon unlockingand who knows why. Anyways I will make a video to show the non believers I have no problem doing that.... I also relocked and unlocked boot loader because I tried starting dead fresh to get google wallet to work again let's just say that if u do not wipe or reset data inside the app your beat so I thought locking boot loader and unrooting then reflashing stock image would help. It didn't .... secure element is beat on my one device. So I unlocked the "relocked" boot loader ( this is what it says when u relock it) anyways it told me it would wipe data I proceeded. Rooted again threw touch recovery on booted into recovery and there was my aokp backup waiting for me ... so unlocked relocked and unlocked again...no data loss. Pretty cool I think of it as if u have data on your phone that is that important do not root then! So it not wiping data doesn't bother me. ....all using toolkit btw
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Even if you don't root, people can get access to your data if it doesn't wipe upon unlocking the bootloader. For example; you lose or someone steals your phone and wants your data for some reason. You never unlocked or rooted your phone, it's bone stock. The thief will hook it up to his or her computer and unlock the bootloader and boot up clockwork recovery and pull all your data, including files and pictures in your usb storage (unless you enable encryption). I'm not paranoid, I telling you guys what's possible.
That sucks that relocking and unlocking the bootloader didn't wipe data for you. Don't have to make a video because I believe you. And about having a later version, that's not true. I ordered mines the first day Google made it available in the Play Store.
It sucks that Google Wallet still has that SE error. I always reset data within the app every time I switch roms. Glad my Wallet still works
Quick question, since I'm new to the Galaxy Nexus community.
I have unlocked my bootloader, installed CWM permanently, rooted and installed CM9 RC.
My question now is, if I was to lock my bootloader now, what exactly would happen? Does all hell break lose? Does CWM get deleted or remains in memory but cannot be accessed? Do I lose root (unlikely, but hey, have to ask).
Thanks in advanced,
Aphis
Nope nothing happens. Your phone will still work. Root will still be there. CWM will still be there.
Unfortunately, if you need to unlock your bootloader again for anything, you'll likely lose all your data since unlocking wipes most phones.
Check out the app "BootUnlocker for Galaxy Nexus" by Segv's Tools on the Play Store (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker). You can lock and unlock your bootloader without losing data. It works on the phone itself, no computer needed.
I installed it on my phone a couple days ago and it works just as advertised. Still have root and CWM, all data still there, no problems.
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Check out the app "BootUnlocker for Galaxy Nexus" by Segv's Tools on the Play Store (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker). You can lock and unlock your bootloader without losing data. It works on the phone itself, no computer needed.
I installed it on my phone a couple days ago and it works just as advertised. Still have root and CWM, all data still there, no problems.
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Just a point to note: that app requires root. So if you lock your bootloader, and subsequently lose root accidentally, you will have to unlock using fastboot, which will wipe.
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efrant said:
Just a point to note: that app requires root. So if you lock your bootloader, and subsequently lose root accidentally, you will have to unlock using fastboot, which will wipe.
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True, but when I did my initial root attempt on my phone, I unlocked the bootloader and my data was intact. I was prepared for a full wipe but it didn't happen. I do have root and I relocked the bootloader. I can't explain how or why it didn't wipe.
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True, but when I did my initial root attempt on my phone, I unlocked the bootloader and my data was intact. I was prepared for a full wipe but it didn't happen. I do have root and I relocked the bootloader. I can't explain how or why it didn't wipe.
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That because you have a Play Store Galaxy Nexus. Those do not wipe when you unlock the bootloader. We are trying to figure out why, but not quite there yet. See here.
Could anybody explain why would someone want to lock the bootloader back?
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shayonpal said:
Could anybody explain why would someone want to lock the bootloader back?
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People that are extremely worried about their personal data getting into the wrong hands. If your bootloader is locked AND you have the stock recovery installed AND you have USB debugging disabled in settings AND you have a lock screen password, there is no way for someone to get your data off your device without some sort of hardware hack.
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People that are extremely worried about their personal data getting into the wrong hands. If your bootloader is locked AND you have the stock recovery installed AND you have USB debugging disabled in settings AND you have a lock screen password, there is no way for someone to get your data off your device without some sort of hardware hack.
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So, data security is the only advantage of locking the bootloader?
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So, data security is the only advantage of locking the bootloader?
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Yes, the ONLY advantage.
I relocked my bootloader only because I don't like to see the padlock under the Google logo
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I relocked my bootloader only because I don't like to see the padlock under the Google logo
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Come on, it's a badge of honor.
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encryption anyone?
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People that are extremely worried about their personal data getting into the wrong hands. If your bootloader is locked AND you have the stock recovery installed AND you have USB debugging disabled in settings AND you have a lock screen password, there is no way for someone to get your data off your device without some sort of hardware hack.
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Isn't the encryption option the other way to fully protect the data?
So:
If your bootloader is locked AND you have the stock recovery installed AND you have USB debugging disabled in settings AND you have a lock screen password
OR
Phone Encryption is implemented AND you have a non-bobo lock screen password.
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Isn't the encryption option the other way to fully protect the data?
So:
If your bootloader is locked AND you have the stock recovery installed AND you have USB debugging disabled in settings AND you have a lock screen password
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Phone Encryption is implemented AND you have a non-bobo lock screen password.
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You are right. I guess the only difference that I can see is that with encryption and an unlocked bootloader, you would still probably be able to pull the encrypted data to a computer and try to crack the password with more powerful software. If your bootloader is locked (and you have encryption or all the items above), it's not possible to get the data off the device.
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Planning to keep it as stock as possible, but I would like to at least have it bootloader unlocked first. Can anyone confirm if Android Pay still works with just unlocked bootloader, but no root?
Yes, Android Pay does work with an unlocked bootloader on any phone that isn't rooted. Android Pay only checks if the phone is rooted and is running a 100% stock rom.
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What about this "breaker" that occurs on the 6P when you unlock the bootloader, do we have to worry about this on the 5X?
I had a Nexus 5X with stock Android 6 software. Android Pay was working fine.
I was having a few lag issues and noticed the final Nexus factory image was available for Android 7 so I decided to unlock my bootloader and install the factory image. After I installed it, Android Pay was still working fine.
Then I received an OTA update for the monthly security hotfixes which I installed. Since doing this, Android Pay doesn't work. It says something about my phone being rooted/unlocked and that Android Pay does not support this.
Can anyone tell me why this is happening? I don't need to keep my bootloader unlocked so if locking will allow me to resolve the issue without losing data then I can do this. Can anyone guide me please?
Try flashing a kernel from The Flash or Franco.
Both have a line of code that should stop the bootloader error in safetynet
Thank you but I don't want to put on any custom stuff. I just want to go back to a stock Android 7.0 ROM that works with Android Pay. I don't need root, or an unlocked bootloader. How can I go back to stock?
You can use something like wugs nexus tool.
Although some have mentioned you can brick your device trying to lock the bootloader.
Personally I have never done it. Others might have more experience.
It may or may not be easier to lock than to use a custom kernel. YMMV.
One benefit of the kernel is increased performance on your phone.
Oh and if you lock your bootloader it will completely wipe your phone. E.g. You will lose your data.
Edit.. Root isn't needed for a kernel either
Start the device in fastboot mode again, as described above.
Execute:
fastboot flashing lock
or, for older devices, run:
fastboot oem lock
Locking bootloader will wipe the data on some devices. After locking the bootloader, if you want to flash the device again, you must run fastboot oem unlock again, which will wipe the data.
Source: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Ah okay, thanks for the info. What I should have done originally was re-lock the bootloader straight after I flashed the ROM. Unfortunately, I setup the device after flashing the ROM and kept the bootloader unlocked which is why I'm stuck right now. Okay, time to backup my stuff up and re-lock the bootloader. Thanks everyone.
Now that the Verizon version is unlocked, is it possible to install the stock Google firmware onto the Verizon model (and subsequently get regular updates from Google, not Verizon)?
The updates still come from Google, regardless of where you bought the device. In fact, if you had a google store version of the pixel witha verizon sim, you would still get the X build as it has a different radio tuned for VZW.
Flashed the google images after unlocking the bootloader and after a few min the verizon build ended up being an update. So far, there is not way to avoid the verizon build unless you are rooted ...
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Flashed the google images after unlocking the bootloader and after a few min the verizon build ended up being an update. So far, there is not way to avoid the verizon build unless you are rooted ...
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The only difference between the V and X builds are the radio.
So they must identify by Imei, which is which.
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The only difference between the V and X builds are the radio.
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In the bootloader thread there was speculation about how they tie each image for which phone. Some speculated about phones being recognized for their IMEI, SIM,CID, etc etc etc but nothing conclusive. The other day I met a person who got the phone from the google play store and have verizon but his latest build remains NDE63V, not NDE63X. Quiet honestly, I'm skeptical as of which is really the difference.
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In the bootloader thread there was speculation about how they tie each image for which phone. Some speculated about phones being recognized for their IMEI, SIM,CID, etc etc etc but nothing conclusive. The other day I met a person who got the phone from the google play store and have verizon but his latest build remains NDE63V, not NDE63X. Quiet honestly, I'm skeptical as of which is really the difference.
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That doesn't surprise me, It took a week before I got the update. Its a staged rollout, just like any other OTA is.
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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If you can unlock it, yes. But if it comes with 7.1.1 or you let it update to 7.1.1 before you unlock it you are done. It will be locked without a way to unlock it.
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biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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They are the same phone with the same software. There's nothing to flash
biijan said:
The question is mine too, I am going to buy a verizon one that the bootloader can not unlock, now we know uts possible to unlockit, I would like to know if possible to flash google play stock on verizon?
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Verizon phones:
If it has 7.1.0 then you can unlock the bootloader.
If it has 7.1.1 then you cannot unlock the bootloader.
If you cannot unlock the bootloader then you cannot flash older firmware to circumvent the bootloader lock.
If you want to flash ROM's then do not buy a Verizon phone with 7.1.1 already on it.
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Verizon phones:
If it has 7.1.0 then you can unlock the bootloader.
If it has 7.1.1 then you cannot unlock the bootloader.
If you cannot unlock the bootloader then you cannot flash older firmware to circumvent the bootloader lock.
If you want to flash ROM's then do not buy a Verizon phone with 7.1.1 already on it.
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That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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biijan said:
That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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Unlock your bootloader right away, before you take any 7.1.1 updates.
Then in the future before taking updates, research on XDA first to find out if it causes any problems.
biijan said:
That version is 7.1.0, so
Let me know please, If I flash with google play stock, then mine will be like google play pixels? And it will be updates like them? And can unlock bootloader even after updates?
Thanks
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If you update before you unlock you will not be able to unlock. Don't matter where you get it from. VZ and Google's update are the same. The google update our full flash to 7.1.1 will lock you. Probably for good.
So if I unlock my bootloader, in 7.1.0 It'll maintain the bootloader unlock atleast in 7.1.1? It'll still allow OTA updates? On the fence on what I want to do with the Pixel but would rather dePixel8 it while i have the chance.
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So if I unlock my bootloader, in 7.1.0 It'll maintain the bootloader unlock atleast in 7.1.1? It'll still allow OTA updates? On the fence on what I want to do with the Pixel but would rather dePixel8 it while i have the chance.
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My PixelXL came with NDE63P. I used depixel8 to unlock it. After that, it has taken 7.1-NDE63V, 7.1-NDE63X, and 7.11-NMF26O updates through Verizon without relocking the bootloader. I have messed up the phone several times and easily flashed the factory image to fix up each time. Instructions here in the xda PixelXL Forum are helpful. Custom recovery, kernel, or root will stop OTAs from installing.
Whatever you do, be sure to unlock it before taking updates.
Is it possible to overwrite the Verizon/EE bootloader once it is unlocked? So that the bootloader can be relocked and unlocked at will post updating to 7.1.1?
Gold Rusty said:
Is it possible to overwrite the Verizon/EE bootloader once it is unlocked? So that the bootloader can be relocked and unlocked at will post updating to 7.1.1?
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Bootloader is the same. The unlockable "feature" appears to be IMEI related. Sets a flag, apparently...
cam30era said:
Bootloader is the same. The unlockable "feature" appears to be IMEI related. Sets a flag, apparently...
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Great, thanks for clearing that up. Seems best to stay clear of Verizon/EE models if I want to be able to unlock and lock at will.
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Having said that, having to wipe the user data with each unlock makes it pointless relocking it as I want it mainly for app data backups.
Gold Rusty said:
Great, thanks for clearing that up. Seems best to stay clear of Verizon/EE models if I want to be able to unlock and lock at will.
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Having said that, having to wipe the user data with each unlock makes it pointless relocking it as I want it mainly for app data backups.
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Don't relock, we have seen lots of people brick phones that way. If you are trying to pass safteynet then flash a kernel that bypasses it.